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2881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC is dead. The plan is a shift to Bitcoin Cash. on: December 10, 2017, 07:42:08 PM
their assumptions have been destroyed. Bitcoin flying prices now show that Bitcoin is very strong and for now no one can beat it.
I could not agree more. Bitcoin cash is not as good as its hyped price and people keeping it are losing money against bitcoin.
Serves them right for trying to support pathological liars like Roger and Jihan.
2882  Other / Politics & Society / Re: If we can educate our kids at home why do we need to send them at school? on: December 10, 2017, 07:41:26 PM
home is for values. school is for socialization. not everything can be taught at home and in school too.
You don't need schools to socialize. If that was the case humanity wouldn't exist in the first place. Heck, even monkeys socialize and they don't have schools.
2883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 07:14:56 PM
What people think BOA patent news means: mass adoption of crypto

What it actually means: Cease and desist orders to all existing crypto exchanges, and either no use of the patent or use for proprietary bank coins
Good thing decentralized exchanges won't give a damn.
Which exchanges are decentralized?
Waves is already up and running and decentralized. New platform coming up soon which will make it actually useable (the old one is lackluster and doesn't attract volume, the new one will).

There's also NVO but that's not coming until Q1 2018. DEX's will be a major thing once regulators start trying to poop the party though.
2884  Economy / Speculation / Re: The rally will eventually end with a dip to at least $5.5K //3K on: December 10, 2017, 07:10:59 PM
Right - the peak is a level logarithmically above the mean, driven by traders, and the bottom is a level logarithmically BELOW the mean, again driven by traders, and the two levels are vastly different, especially since we are dealing with exponential price discovery.

People make a mistake when I say "I predict a dip to $x" that I think that's the real value of bitcoin or that the price is going to stay there for a significant amount of time
- no its a hammer candle.
Fair enough.
2885  Economy / Speculation / Re: ✨✨✨ Time To SHORT For Massive Profits!! ✨✨✨ on: December 10, 2017, 07:08:50 PM
Currently there is not adequate methods to bet on both sides of bitcoin.

But this is all changing starting on December 10th, 2017!!!!

The downfall has already begun  B)

Wallstreet is about to collude and drive the price of bitcoin to the ground. 400+ Billion USD is the amount of profits that are up for grab by shorting bitcoin and altcoins. Wallstreet thrives when the USD $ is strong. They also thrive using questionable practices of collusion and market manipulation.  Theres no way they are going to let crypto currency get in the way of their profits. There is also 0 chance that 99% of the world is going to agree to adopt a currency that has inflated 15,000% by the first 1% to adopt it. Crypto will certainly crash before the remaining 99% of the world population agree to get scammed by the intial 1% of investors. Wallstreet agreed to add options for crypto because it is in their best interest to create a way to short. They will also collect huge on Fees.

The smartest players who drove prices will start to cash in, and then bet on the downfall. Everyone is going to be scrambling to collect in on this 400 Billion USD that was generated off, essentially, a Ponzi Scheme. You can certainly make a lot of money off a Ponzi Scheme as long as the next guy in line continues to buy into the hype. Institutional investors are about to make tons of money off options. Financial leverage is one of the biggest benefits of trading options. I predict the downslope will be as sharp as the rise.  


Good luck, invest responsibly Smiley


You're acting as if 99% of the world used their brains. They don't. Which is almost always why they're in the 99% in the first place.

Also, if you believe that Bitcoin is a ponzi you're either a clown, or a FUDster who's trying to pick up coins at a discount. Good luck with that.

I don't understand why people are so terrified to grow some balls, be honest, and just admit that it's all a Ponzi.  Where I grew up many people made their incomes being involved with Ponzi schemes...not as organizers/operators but rather people that knew to get in early and get out early.  They never lost money.  It was the HODL mentality that always lost everything.  You are the clown for ignoring the reality.  When someone pools their money with others into a system that produces no interest earnings, goods, services, or especially pay dividends....it's a Ponzi.  Don't be part of the 99%...be honest and use your brain.  Call it what it is...since it is what it is.

That said, get out now...ride the futures to the downside, and then buyback when there is blood in the streets.

I found this on your website: "I believe that our most powerful asset as modern Asian girls is the freedom of our minds and the power of the internet."

You know that Bitcoin stands for freedom of our money with the power of the internet, right? Stop wasting your and our time. You clearly haven't done any due diligence.

I've been following BTC since 2011.  I happen believe in certain alt-coins for the long term so in the spirit of truly free markets we agree...swallow that truth first.  I follow this forum since it's good to have a finger on the pulse of what the dumb money is doing...especially at this point.  Just because I am honest and you are clearly full of shit or just stupid and cannot see the obvious reality...plus you have an enormous barely literate troll army that has your back (while I do not) doesn't mean that I am not allowed to speak my mind.
You obviously don't know jackshit about economics, finance, or even business. But anyways, enjoy getting out early and forgetting to get back in for the post-pop grind.
2886  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can you recommend me an anime movie? on: December 10, 2017, 07:05:21 PM
Hotarubi no mori e. I also recommend Zutto mae kara suki deshita. The title is long but it's from Honey works.
Both of those were really nice. Definitely worth watching.
2887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Waves hold for longterm Good or Not? on: December 10, 2017, 07:04:30 PM
Dear friends,

I have 2 BTC - it's all my money.
Should i buy and hold Waves coin for longterm (end of 2017)
Thank you so much
i dont think waves the right choice for long time investments while the
project has no potential.you may choose any other alts.lots choices that can
promise you good earning for long term investments this is only an advice OP
you still have the rights to make your own choice
I really don't think you understand Waves whatsoever. Or you're trying to FUD to pick up more cheap coins before Wednesday.

But just for sakes of completeness. Why do you think Waves has no potential? (P.S. The facts and the market disagree with this sentiment.)
2888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Dogecoin. 2017 will be $ 1 in December. on: December 10, 2017, 07:03:23 PM
still very far to reach the price of $ 1 / doge.
the current doge price is $ 0.002 so late december I'm not sure that doge coin will reach $ 1.
Another pump like we've seen this year could briefly put it at 1 to 10 cents though, which would be pretty big.
2889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 07:02:29 PM
What people think BOA patent news means: mass adoption of crypto

What it actually means: Cease and desist orders to all existing crypto exchanges, and either no use of the patent or use for proprietary bank coins
Good thing decentralized exchanges won't give a damn.
2890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟[ANN][ICO] Coinlancer.io CL - Freelancers Of The World Unite - ICO| 14th OCT🌟 on: December 10, 2017, 06:47:20 PM
why trading is live on hitbtc and aslo ICO at the same time??
Because it's most likely a scam. I've tried to warn people ahead of time as there were numerous red flags from the very start.
2891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 10, 2017, 06:46:37 PM
When will the rest of the coins enter the market? I think it will crash the price
They supposedly won't hit the market.

Supposedly?
Yes, supposedly. Kris stated that they will try not to use them unless it would really be benefitial for the project. Make of this what you will.
2892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 10, 2017, 04:47:22 PM
When will the rest of the coins enter the market? I think it will crash the price
They supposedly won't hit the market.
2893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 04:23:40 PM
I'm totally fucked at Coinbase. Sitting on an obscene amount of fiat from a recent sale, but don't have access to my Funding/Withdrawal page. Something 'tarded like below is what I'm getting.

Sheeeeeeit.

Why on Earth didn't you do an OTC sale? There's no way I'd trust any exchange with amounts above a few grand. They're too prone to freeze you over AML shite.
How exactly are you going to do an OTC sale for an "obscene amount of fiat" without exposing yourself to extreme risks?
2894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 02:19:18 PM
do you guys know when the next antminer s9 will be available? the current stock is sold out and I can't find any dates. or do you know something about current or upcoming s9 alternatives?
No idea, but given who is selling them I'd wait for competition to come out. There was one company that was just about ready (forgot the name) from China and one that is currently in the research phase in Japan. I'd go with GPU mining some other coin until it's possible to avoid Bitmain though.

I also read about competitors and forgot the names. One said they have a running product which is better then the s9 and a core dev somehow proved it. but I can't find it anymore...

CCMF?


I just found it again. The Chinese one is called DragonMint and ships in April: https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-16t/

The Japanese company is called GMO. I would personally wait for the Japanese ones just to make sure that DragonMint isn't somehow related to Jihan Wu (who could be anticipating a decline in Bitmain's sale due to his BCash garbage and attack on Bitcoin). In the meantime there are going to be enough profits to be made with altcoins and Bitcoin itself. I wouldn't even get miners for making money, but just to support the network and improve decentralization.
2895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES | Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform | unofficial supporters topic on: December 10, 2017, 02:15:28 PM

indeed,

my prediction price of waves in 2018

between $50 and $100,- before Q3 2018 Wink 

so it rising now slowly , dont miss the train ( this train was waiting for  so long to take of.....)


Unfortunately much will also depend on what bitcoin will do in the next few days/weeks... If there will be an heavy dump that brings down everything (all the alts not just Waves) then the ascent of Waves may be more difficult.
However, it remains one of the best investments for 2018.

i slowly going to hate btc.......

when its rising people dumping the alts
when its dumping people dumping it also .......


but indeed we will see what the future will bring

When BTC dumps it's not really that alts are dumping because of people selling, but because of the BTC value going down. So if (random example) 1 altcoin was worth 1 BTC and BTC drops in price, the altcoin will drop in price even though it's still worth ~1 BTC.

So unless you exit crypto into fiat it's completely irrelevant.
2896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES | Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform | unofficial supporters topic on: December 10, 2017, 01:51:34 PM
100 tx per second currently and can easily scale to 1000 tx per second with the same platform. Which makes it the fastest protocol in all of crypto as far as I'm aware.

Fantastic! Thank you!
That it is much faster than the competitors... I think Waves will give us great satisfaction in this 2018 full of developments!
I think all the people who have clearly resisted the urge to sell and kept buying through the Bitcoin bullrun this week will already be greatly rewarded next week. And then even more after Smart Contracts hit the platform next spring. Last chance to get in at ridiculously discounted prices for insane long-term LPoS returns as well as the upcoming major pump.

indeed,

my prediction price of waves in 2018

between $50 and $100,- before Q3 2018 Wink 

so it rising now slowly , dont miss the train ( this train was waiting for  so long to take of.....)

A rather conservative estimate. Wink
2897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥Tokugawa Coin 🔥 Japanese Masternode 🔥1000% ROI🔥Buy in ICO on: December 10, 2017, 01:47:41 PM
dev must be blind... its price, right now is 0.20 cents... didnt know that 20 cents is the same as 50 cents...
It's not that he's blind. He's just a pathological liar.

Maybe he made a mistake?
That excuse flies if you make one or two mistakes. This guy has repeatedly lied about just about everything regarding this scam.
2898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 10, 2017, 01:40:09 PM
Why is the coin called Monaco? Any connection with a small kingdom in Europe?

No actually. However, I read somewhere that they are in some strife over using the name 'Monaco' as supposedly the country (jurisdiction?) doesn't like companies using their name. They've already started legal proceedings - although I'm not sure how reliable the article is as a source. If it is true, I'm not sure what the outcome will be. It's not like they can call themselves MonacoIN, since that is already taken by a useless coin with a catface on it.
That was just silly FUD as far as I'm aware. Not that it really matters as long as they deliver a product. Let's just hope they'll roll out before the year ends and give some updates on the AC.
2899  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 01:37:47 PM
do you guys know when the next antminer s9 will be available? the current stock is sold out and I can't find any dates. or do you know something about current or upcoming s9 alternatives?
No idea, but given who is selling them I'd wait for competition to come out. There was one company that was just about ready (forgot the name) from China and one that is currently in the research phase in Japan. I'd go with GPU mining some other coin until it's possible to avoid Bitmain though.
2900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES | Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform | unofficial supporters topic on: December 10, 2017, 12:55:23 PM
100 tx per second currently and can easily scale to 1000 tx per second with the same platform. Which makes it the fastest protocol in all of crypto as far as I'm aware.

Fantastic! Thank you!
That it is much faster than the competitors... I think Waves will give us great satisfaction in this 2018 full of developments!
I think all the people who have clearly resisted the urge to sell and kept buying through the Bitcoin bullrun this week will already be greatly rewarded next week. And then even more after Smart Contracts hit the platform next spring. Last chance to get in at ridiculously discounted prices for insane long-term LPoS returns as well as the upcoming major pump.
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