Yes, seems difficult for some nanobrains (oh wait???) to comprehend any ideas that are  expressed more complexly than one or two sentences.  

Yes, you cut out my information b/c it is much more convenient for you to keep up with this bearshit line of reasoning  (attempt at acting like you are more neutral than the bulls, here).  I provided a decent explanation, and surely it could have been shorter and better stated.  Nonetheless, I provided a logical explanation that was neither bearish nor bullish, and you attempt to negate my explanation by dismissing it as bull-ish (but conveniently, you "snip" it out so you do NOT have to be bothered with its contents).   Your attempt here to oversimplify does a disservice to your assertion that I am supposedly biased by a bullish view on this FUD topic. 

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You are oversimplifying matters.  These two concepts are NOT the same, and you should know better, especially as a moderator.

I agree with you that some facts are misunderstood, difficult to diceipher or some facts are NOT accepted, but that is a different story than attempting to spread rumors to conflate these two uses of the term FUD.

I have NO problem talking about and presenting and debating negative or unfavorable facts, so long as the facts are truly facts rather than opinions, probabilities and speculations framed as absolute facts.

So, let us engage in a dialogue and a conversation rather than labeling.  I have NO problem with a dialogue that is done in good faith and that is substantiated.... and/or qualified and/or clearly articulated, or good faith attempts at such.

There is a difference between using "facts U dislike" for FUD and hodl for hold.  HODL is innocent and a non-substantive form of fun. 

"Facts u dislike," on the other hand, is quite substantively different from the true meaning of FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt), and "facts u dislike" is intentionally and purposefully misleading to the reader and especially the unfamiliar reader can be mislead by such disinformation.. 

The use of "facts u dislike" for FUD  is a high level of disingenuous communication that purposefully and knowingly attempts to inflame others by changing the meaning of a term....   Even though the matter may seem trivial, it is NOT.... b/c it is deceit at its core, and it is NOT done out of fun.  It is like proclaiming that the FUD is unfud (b/c it is "facts"). the opposite of its original and common usage.

I believe that anyone who engages in purposeful marketing behavior to mislead and to deceive readers by calling things the opposite of their true meaning are  guys who  are a bunch of jerks  (and probably mostly guys, though there may be a few women in the mix) and that includes guys who proclaim that FUD means "facts u dislike" when in fact the term FUD is attributable to the spreading of "fear, uncertainty and doubt" and the term continues to be used to describe the spreading of "fear uncertainty and doubt."   FUD about FUD is saying that FUD means "facts u dislike."

I doubt that we could all agree to refrain from posting long enough to create a 24 hour chart buddy series.

I agree that it would be clever to spread out the sell chunks... but it seems to be nearly pure speculation to suggest that the sales are coming from one coin holder.  We do NOT really know such.. so we are speculating.... even though there could be several sellers.. who just are attempting to get in their sale intermediately before someone else gets in... and yes, on low volume these various sales bursts seem to show up (but they are still occurring on high volume, too).

I am glad that I did NOT have to work too hard in order to achieve such recognition, from a troll who is NOT even interesting NOR good at it.   

You are suggesting that without volume BTC prices are going to continue to go down, and I do NOT believe that it is a given that BTC prices are going to continue to go down from here... even absent additional volume.   

Maybe you are more enlightened than me; however, I doubt that you are so much more enlightened as to proclaim that I "lack understanding of price."

You are a troll b/c you are spreading FUD... You do NOT even attempt to back up what you are saying with either logic or facts.  Accordingly, you submit your stupid-ass statements, and expect someone else on the thread to do all the work of analysis and/or clarification.

Searing:   Either you are confusing me, or I am confused about the reporting obligation for miners.  I thought that you, as a miner, did NOT have to report until you realize your gain.... meaning that you do NOT have to report until you sell your BTC.  Even though the value (or the basis) of the BTC would be calculated from the time that you mined the coin.     So my point is that you would NOT have to report your gain until you sell... Am I incorrect?  On the other hand , if you are taking depreciation, then you need to be able to take that depreciation against some value.

I tend to agree with Rpietila, here.  The markets seem to be running out of people willing to sell BTC at the current price.  A very large majority of those who wanted to sell have already sold at prices - higher than the current price point.

To suggest that there is a lack of demand based on an overall lack of volume seems to be a misreading of the current state of affairs.

I have respect for his communication skills, too.  He can engage in fairly sophisticated rhetoric to lure us into a false sense of security regarding his FUD spreading motives.  In actuality, he is like an oily lil piggie, you think that you have him caught and he slips away - out of your grasps.  No disrespect to either Jorge or lil piggies.   

Why's that?  We are just sharing informal information.  I have NOT made substantial purchases with bitcoin, yet hopefully, the recent legislation will change bitcoin, in the usa from its current treatment as a commodity to the status of a foreign currency, for the purposes of taxes....

What you call "fear mongering" Jorge calls "prudence mongering" and I call "wacky mongering."

In the end, Dave05, I agree with you, and both of us may be giving too much dignity to Jorge by responding to what seems to be his disingenuous "contributions" that really serve to misinform and emphasize tangential and speculative issues.  Yes, this is a speculative thread, but his investment seems questionable, at best - to supposedly save us from ourselves.  In other words, buy a bitcoin, Jorge, to bring some credibility to your participation.   

Some call it "cute," and others call it "whacky."   

Each of us have our different reasons and our different time-lines for getting into BTC.  I understand the sentiment about getting involved while BTC values are on a downtrend; however, I have been into BTC and its downtrend longer than you, since I got started in late November 2013.  I have considered myself to be a BTC long term investor.  So far, I have NOT considered my self a trader and very little have I attempted to profit from trading. 

Certainly the alts have seemed to have more volatility than BTC, and accordingly more potential for profits or losses based on such volatility - yet trading seems to be a losing prospect for anyone except for the big players or bots or those who have learned certain strategies to account for the probably manipulation that takes place with the various cryptos.   

In spite of my reservations regarding trading, I do expect to use some of my profits for trading, once my BTC portfolio is back into the black.... It has been a while since my BTC portfolio has been in the black, so it may be a little while before I am trading... he he he... Nonetheless, I am fairly optimistic that we are going to be witnessing some upward price mobility in the coming months - yet, even if we do NOT witness such, I will likely keep HODLin and buying, absent significant news that would negatively affect BTC fundamentals.

If true, that is a pretty big deal, especially with bitcoin b/c there are a lot of conversions going on with bitcoin. 

Also, if true, then similar inaccuracies are reflected in the other cryptos, too... even though bitcoin remains the most common conversion crypto.

Does anyone know about a better one-stop shopping spot to obtain the measurement for the totality of bitcoin volume?

If the coinmarket cap is any indicator of volume, it appears that dark coin has achieved about half the volume of trading volume of BTC in the last 24 hours - even though the actual market cap of darkcoin is more than 200X smaller than BTC.  Does NOT mean that Darkcoin is more successful than BTC, just that there may be a lot of volatility with darkcoin, and money to be made.. and likely easier to manipulate prices by smaller players.

Shmadz:   You are changing the question.  All that matters is what you did.  If you bought with bitcoin, then you have accomplished an affirmative response to the question.  It does NOT matter what the receiver of your bitcoin did, and you may NOT even know what they did - whether they converted the BTC to fiat or NOT.