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2901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BlackCoin statement from CryptoRush - Very shocking information on: March 25, 2014, 02:04:47 PM
Releasing the chat logs just shows what a joke Cryptorush is, they look like incompetent 5 year olds having a temper tantrum.  This exchange can't even keep BTC working, have lost all the users balances from what 3 or 4 different coins now.  It's hard to believe someone running an exchange can really be that incompetent, almost seems like they are just scamming.  I will be staying far away from Cryptorush.

+1
and not full logs ^^ // see rat4 BC dev reply
2902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 01:59:44 PM
So,the ideal thing to do is stack these coins to the sky and leave them there without touching them for a year? Also,is the staking done at once a year or is it a continuous process throughout? If continuous,what's the time interval for which they get staked?
1. yes
2. every 8 hours on average. Your wallet will give you the accurate countdown.

anybody know where i can see the accurate countdown in the cli (non-gui) version?
if not exist can be implemented?

thanks
This is random chance bro Smiley you see estimate time in right bot corrner.
2903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 01:53:07 PM
can someone tell me what happened was offline a few hours...
Cryptorush made the same mistake as with ZEIT, blamed the dev as with ZEIT, fyrstikken went full retard and declared war on blackcoin and threatened the dev, mintpal went offline for some unrelated server problems. Multipool is back in up. Blackcoin prices are up after some panic.

I would call it tactical panic...
I think that tactick won't stay long Cheesy... Radio did - 40% ...CR - 15% Cheesy...
Next panic -5% Huh
2904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
The general resilience to this news just shows how strong this coin is, Litecoin should be VERY afraid.
What to say CR add every premine scam coin...
They have to many of them.
It was matter of time when such problems will go out.

"
CryptoRush: he, what happened? Tesla coin gives me problems. Surely it cannot be because I cannot program and want to be different, must be the developers of the coin who messed up.

CryptoRush: he, what happened? Battle coin gives me problems. Surely it cannot be because I cannot program and want to be different, must be the developers of the coin who messed up.

CryptoRush: he, what happened? Zeit coin gives me problems. Surely it cannot be because I cannot program and want to be different, must be the developers of the coin who messed up.

CryptoRush: he, what happened? Black coin gives me problems. Surely it cannot be because I cannot program and want to be different, must be the developers of the coin who messed up.

See a pattern here?[/color][/size]"
2905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 01:32:07 PM
Getting scary out there...  The roundness of those orders suggests it's just a few people holding up the price....



Yep, its being manipulated to dump - they get you to pump it up by panic buying more only to dump on you - probably the coins that were stolen.

Are the 22 million coins that went out of the CR wallet simply on the bad fork? or can they be used by the new client?

I get that they all transations in at 22m but they should have about 1.5m at the end of story but they have now 60k

Loss =  "which is 1554503"

And that 1.5m goes to many useres so users could claim 2x balance because of their bug.
They tried mint coins Cheesy and they have paid for that...
Mintrush disabled minting/stacking for security reasons., Now you see why.
CR wanted earn more but they paid for they greediness...

Coin wasn't forked coin just stuck at synch we haven't parallel block-chains.

2906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 12:42:31 PM
at least stolen coins won't go to single account...
but to many users.

CR is like MtGox they made mistakes and call that ws BTC flout...
Same play strategy wanted use CR...
2907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 12:34:26 PM
Best from all just 4 YOU :


[21:22] <Soepkip> well you'll have to wait for rat4
[21:22] <Soepkip> i checked up with other exchanges if they had problems and they seem not to have any so far.
[21:22] <Soepkip> but could be their wallet implementation is different from yours
[21:23] <Linkandzelda> yea we have a unique wallet implementation

(yea i see special implementation^^ yea very special)

[03:50] <rat4> I'm surprised that someone uses accounts of daemon
[03:51] <Linkandzelda> yea I regret it now but thats how I decided to make the system... next version will not opperate that way for sure. so much trouble caused

( professional attitude )
__________

pitty the for their own mistakes they want blame rat4 other exchanges don't have such problems...
They just didn't turned of stacking same time Mintpal have stacking off and no problems with that issue.
Coins weren't stolen at least they were given for free for all who had accounts there...
Conclusion CR didn't turned of stacking and now blame rat4... Great.
2908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
So,someone help me understand this POS thing. 1%/year means that if I have 100 coins in my wallet today,after a year there will be 101 coins,right?

pretty much, but you have to leave them in the wallet.

So,the ideal thing to do is stack these coins to the sky and leave them there without touching them for a year? Also,is the staking done at once a year or is it a continuous process throughout? If continuous,what's the time interval for which they get staked?
after 8h yuo have chance to get part of 1% annual steak.
Eg i have 100k and i stack about every 3-4h with amounts like 0.02 0.7 BC...
If you have less BC you just need wait more to stack.
More BC you have more chance to stack / more you wait more chance you get stack.
If you have only few BC it can be month to get stack earlier.
You don't need to be allways online to weight is counted coinage.
You can log in after month and with 1000BC have same chance to stack like that guy who have fresh 30000 in wallet.
More you wait more chance to stack you have.
2909  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 11:50:54 AM
Yes the 1.5mil was shared out people got higher balances than they should have had.

Looking at the chat log, rat4 tried to help them out with the old wallet version, which ended in cryptorush saying it was his fault and blaming him.
Cryptorush also now want to kill BC hahaha  Roll Eyes
Glad i never had an account their, hopefully they go down the pan, and rat4 sues for good measure.

Also anyone with an account get your BTC out of there now!!!!!



people are saying they cannot remove their btc now.
So they realy go hacked not only BC probably was stolen...
LTC and other coins can have problems.

I think they weren't hacked they have problem with synch or somethinng.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT GOX FOUD 200 000 TYS BTC Cheesy hmm CR is gox 2.0...
after few weeks they will found all BC...
2910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 10:21:00 AM
Quote
Crypto Rush ‏@TheCryptoRush 35m

Update on BlackCoin: Still waiting for the developer to assist us with the issues we're having.
 

Cryptorush sucks.  How did every other exchange manage to get it working, but they cant?  It takes less than 5 minutes to rebuild the daemon from source.

They can't even keep BTC working either.

Could a Dev please assist cryptorush in fixing their Black coin wallet.  I have a heap their that have been "frozen" since last night (Australia time).   I promise I will move them to a more efficient exchange.....Please! (we know your busy but just this once  Grin )

Also anybody else unable to withdraw their BTC from Cryptorush?

CR IRC says 1.5 blackcoins have been stolen. All blackcoin balances wiped out.

1.5?

1.5 million, sorry

So they are going mtgox style ? xD.

Fuck sake, 1.5 million dump incoming then - likely Mintpal as that's where the volume is at.


NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Damm crypto shit prepare for discout Cheesy...
Hmm wait if that is FUD to get price down ?
Or they just can't sych wallet...

 shitptorush. - aka Mtgox 2.0 // Why only they have problems with coins...
2911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 10:17:58 AM
soo    am I mining air on blackcoinpool.com,   how much BC should i expect....nice one with BLOCK found and WUU TANG is good  above 100%
...

I undestand that stats are coming   but I need some NUMBERS
So you have 0.01BTC ~ 50~150 BC
Depends on pool luck and other factors.

But look at that like long therm investment eg in year when BC will get eg. close to Litecoin.
BC is still young 30 days old ^^. Market cap is still small and have big room to increase + mayby next crypto bum and you have winner coin in hands.
If you feel closed beta don't suits you try other pools and buy BC on your own in depths.

Do you think that 1 BC = 1$ in future Cheesy ? (there is only 75m all....+1% year inflation)


you mean  150 BC   , per hour Smiley             1$   why not       other blackcoin pool    with stats working?

Or should i go SOLO  for blackcoins somewhere somehow ..-joke---    

yes yes Im buying  all in

with 2Mhs you get now 50~150 BC / 0.01BTC day Sad... profitable ages are gone.  // such stats are on All multipools.

Better go back when BCpool will be full functional if you feel that you get not to much BC.

Try solo try with pool. Try back to pool when will be full online after beta.
But take care if you don't mine BC now later price can be higher and you will mine less.
2912  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 10:00:33 AM
Quote
Crypto Rush ‏@TheCryptoRush 35m

Update on BlackCoin: Still waiting for the developer to assist us with the issues we're having.
 

Cryptorush sucks.  How did every other exchange manage to get it working, but they cant?  It takes less than 5 minutes to rebuild the daemon from source.

They can't even keep BTC working either.

Could a Dev please assist cryptorush in fixing their Black coin wallet.  I have a heap their that have been "frozen" since last night (Australia time).   I promise I will move them to a more efficient exchange.....Please! (we know your busy but just this once  Grin )

Also anybody else unable to withdraw their BTC from Cryptorush?

CR IRC says 1.5 blackcoins have been stolen. All blackcoin balances wiped out.

lol - f.ck me regular users don't have such problems with their wallets like they...
They definiety have to much coins on site and they make mistakes...
Other exchanges can handle this...Sad for BC owners who have problems now.
I don't believe that only BC would be stolen...
2913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 09:55:40 AM
soo    am I mining air on blackcoinpool.com,   how much BC should i expect....nice one with BLOCK found and WUU TANG is good  above 100%




I undestand that stats are coming   but I need some NUMBERS
So you have 0.01BTC ~ 50~150 BC
Depends on pool luck and other factors.

But look at that like long therm investment eg in year when BC will get eg. close to Litecoin.
BC is still young 30 days old ^^. Market cap is still small and have big room to increase + mayby next crypto bum and you have winner coin in hands.
If you feel closed beta don't suits you try other pools and buy BC on your own in depths.

Do you think that 1 BC = 1$ in future Cheesy ? (there is only 75m all....+1% year inflation)
2914  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 09:09:58 AM
is there any coin that copied blackcoin  in the market

I feel like Blitzcoin copied BC.

Same amount of coins, same reward.
7 days of PoW and then stop.

But with premine and no interest and IPO

If i'm correct that is, about details.
I found funny situation Cheesy from their forum from dev:

Quote from: BlitzCoinDev on March 24, 2014, 05:20:35 PM
just came back home. needed to stay late at work.

I'll not be ready in 30 mins for launch Sad

need to postpone it.
what do you think? to postpone it for few hours or not to rush and postpone it 24h until tomorrow 6PM?


Just wonded how many lunch they will have:
GPU coin 5 lunches
Rotor hmm 4 lunches
Blitzcoin hmm ?

Btw pure speculation + PREMINE Cheesy = free BTC for Devs at least he is honest with that.


2915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 25, 2014, 07:34:34 AM
it's a blackhole for the other alts
I'm used to talk about altcoin as an ecosystem. This is part of what I wrote to rat4 earlier:
Quote
I see altcoins as a Darwinian process, most failing, some introducing a useful feature, some becoming predators or maybe one day apex predators (like blackcoins), feeding on smaller preys (like scamcoins/shitcoins/failcoins)...
When you talk about blackhole, I see a parallel with predation. Is blackcoin a predator (remember, predation is just a brutal way to get energy, by stealing energy from other life forms instead of getting from the sun or from eating plants)? I believe it already is.

We ma draw a partial parallel with life's trophic level
On the first trophic level (plants and algae in carbon life) are PoW coin (PoW = photosynthesis;value given by people = sun)
On the second trophic level, we have multipool (whichever coin they are feeding)
Blackcoin was on the first trophic level during its PoW stage. Then for a while, it stayed that way without any way to "eat" (no more PoW/photosynthesis, only expectation people would buy it). It would have cause its death (like what may be happening to poor mintcoin) if it wasn't for the multipool.

Now, if the multipool becomes a huge success (if what happend this week end continue), they blackcoin could become an apex predator, feeding on everything. Zoology taught us that apex predators are dangerous for everyone (obviously) including themselves! They become so well adapted to their ecosystem (read: invincible) that they start to exhaust it - they run out of food.

So my point is: if the multipool succeeds, blackcoin may become an apex predator and exhaust its supply (or its supply may adapt to become invulnerable, like poisonous animals did) and die. Granted, we have time until this happens. But this is very possible.

Enough for the zoology lesson. For now, keep you blackcoin and enjoy the ride. We should have at least two months before coins adapt (if the multipool developper keep their promise of making bc multipool better than other multipools).

Multipool is only one aspect of Blackcoin.
There is also many other factor of that coin.
About food there will be always something to mine like BTC / LTC...
Later will be probably some services and party will go on.
Whole crypto ecosystem is new we have curlentry market with overloaded new coins.
Eg when mint sterd now we have ZEIT,ECC,GHOST.... < the same coin with just difrent parmeters.
Some folks tried copy BC Cheesy but rat4 probably setuped trap Cheesy and they hard forked few times in row 1st night...
In top of that BC have something unique is like POS version of BTC.
And 1st coins with such low inflation in same time rewards can be get in every 8h for supporting

Is hard to say what will be adaptation of BC in future because all can happened.
Anyway as currency BC in next 10 years will be more deflationary than BTC just note that
this is true long therm potential of BC.


2916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: thoughts on the new KNC scrypt miner & the effect it will have on scrypt mining on: March 25, 2014, 07:16:31 AM
Can I know the reason you actually invested in 2 of those? I've been running numbers and even when I'm optimistic, those miners, once they hit the market, will never see ROI.
If you hope LTC will jump in value than you should of just bought LTC.
So why on earth did you invest so much without doing basic homework? And if you did, can I see your numbers?

the people who get them first will be fine. it is the people who get them months late AND after the
asic companies mine the crap out of them.. will be in rough shape.

KNC will obviously mine the shit out of the chips before shipping.

It is a race to the bottom. I agree buying some cheap LTC would probably be smarter if you think it will go up.
That's the thing, I ran the numbers for those who will get the FIRST batch (3 months from now which is the middle of KnCs target date) and even those people won't see ROI.
Problem can be for LTC price that those owners of KNC miner will want ASAP they invested money back few 1st people will do it but next baches will be questionable.
Just look at LTC hashspeed and other coins.
High ROI foe next miners deesn't mean higher prices just look at BTC... who cares about 3Ths when price is tanking.
If ASICs miners will mine only for $ whole system will need a lot new money combine that with 30% LTC inflation this year.
Anyway LTC will lose some fans to and will have smaller community over time GPU miners will leave LTC for sure.
2917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 24, 2014, 10:25:36 PM
You guys are crazy given the market cap. It's at $0.04 now. In 6 months to 12 months, I'd say $0.50-$1. In 2 years, $3-$5. We have 3x as many BTC in our market cap, so our jump should not be so crazy.

With all the pumps and dumps BC has a steady upward projection. All you have to do is match BlackCoin's growth with other similar AltCoins growth and you can reasonably predict where the coin will be in 6 months. In about a 4 to 7 weeks it will be at $1.00, and in 6 months we will be around $5, you can hold me to that. There is always the chance it can explode over night, that has happened to other coins before. But based on the current growth we will be at $1.00 soon. It will be at $1.00 even quicker if people would stop selling BlackCoin at reduced prices as if they are selling MintCoin Smiley

$5 in 6 months? That would mean marketcap is $400 million. That's the LTC market cap. Not impossible, but as much as I love this Blackcoin, I don't see that happening. That would mean faster growth then even BTC and I think that time is gone.

But I thought pumps and dumps are good thing. Doesn't that mean huge % change and won't that attract new investors who want to get into throwing money in this altcoin? Sure it's not good for currency usage, but there's not really many other PoS alternatives right now.

This possible when people will believe that is better to hold BC than  LTC... If we will have even one multipool which will able to produce about 50BTC buy support LTC price is achievable.

Simple maths.
New LTC today - 4800 - 120BTC/DAY - Today (price 0.025)
New BC today -  2056 - 0.14 BTC/DAY - Today (price 0,00007)

And those new BCs don't go direct for miners who need quick $ those miners are stick with BTC/LTC to get their ROI in time.
Someday those who want sell at 7000 -9000 // 11000-20000 will be replaced for those who want buy sell at 30000-80000.
This is natural growth it will take time. We all will suffer some dump and pumps like every coin but this is possible.
BC have 2 RARE factors now-days in crypto:
- FAIR initial distribution
- 0 premine or even no IPO
Today is very hard to succeed without having any of them.

In extra BC  has innovation (1st POS turned of POW with solved Forking issue. )
2918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 24, 2014, 10:01:42 PM
Stop dumping for the love of christ. Everytime we get past 7600 some idiot dumps back to 7400 rather than staggering their sell orders nicely for a smoother and more profitable exit. I cannot wait for the multipool to kick in again and burn these assholes out of their presumed profits.



I hate when people do that, just outbid you for a few satoshi, just stack on the other and wait, dont be so impatient

Yeah, there is no reason to get upset at dumping. This idea is here to stay, we don't have to explode in a few days. The idea is solid and as the infrastructure continues to grow we can absorb all the weak scamcoins.
+ 1
Dump is part of game when new people can get it.
In long run is no so important much more important is building community
some services around all it add value to BC.


BC system is great your chance to stack is increasing every min you support network.
I like much more that small amounts like 0,05BC... than one big payout after eg. 20 days like BCX do it.
1% inflation system is superior also in long run we wont see difference in one month.
Between eg. Mint Ecc to see difference it will require at least a year when BC price will stabilize.

All guys who join party now should know that BC parameters are for long run income not for quick growth.
Today price of BC is reflected power of community involved into Blackcoin more than power of 1% inflation POS system.

I am very happy to see how BC is growing and new peoples are joying.

For sure that BC is 0 premine and 1st POS fairly distributed by POW is helping a lot.
And of course emotions of PUMP DUMP and recover on market are addictive for many traders.
2919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: High production decrease on middlecoin in the last week on: March 24, 2014, 02:46:47 PM
Hi, I'm a mining on a multi-ppo (Middlecoin.com) using a Radeon r9 280X with hash rate 720 KH/s.
During the first 4 weeks the daily production was near 0.09BTC.
In the last 3 weeks the daily production is decreased up to 0.004 BTC.
It is the same for you?
Any advice?
Look at coinwarz aka coinstodump and you will see all coins are less profitable.
ASICs bro Asics Smiley... and when you don't know why ASICs ^^

and 2nd people are sick of investing of POW alts right now all off them go down
so your income is poor and with asics  like KNC 100Mhs will be poorer.

Last times i have hmm 0.05 BTC /Day per Mhs.
Money are leaving crypto to many want to cash out and that cause some collapse.
2920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 24, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
I down/l and even received coins I hadn't got yet. They might have been from radiostatics last effort.
 
So try that one one complained about it so far.
http://www.cryptoalts.com
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