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1981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is PoS dead? on: June 30, 2014, 10:50:46 AM
POS will be here for some more time.

But its becoming old fashioned now a days after so many coins adopting it.

Only coins with strong innovative core team will survive no matter is POS or POW coin or POT POB POI.
1982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is PoS dead? on: June 30, 2014, 10:45:45 AM
POW - coin with all sea POS won't get interest because of dumping it by centralized minig.
Allso market movers can move POW coin much easier into down trend because supply of new POW coins.

POS coins works more like companies.
51% atack on POS hurts mostly 51% owner so he damage himself in that operation
and he is losing hist POS price so there is something to lose at the end.

To holding some crypto wealth into alts i would chose POS coin definitely more than POW
i hold some rare POW to but POS for me is much more perspective than POW

POS to expand need to develop and be active  while POW just wait on increasing price and i observe that trend last time.
1st pure POS NXT distribution was disappointment just look at volume today...
but next attempt like BC pow mining then pure POS was more successful in therms of market higher volume than NXT almost all time
while NXT is 6x-5x more expensive so it should have 5x-6x more volume at the end.
 
I looking forward what NEM/NODE will bring is like NXT but with much better initial distribution.1000-4000 users at beginning not 72 like NXT IPO...

Lets see what future will bring.

1983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][BLACKCOIN 2.0] [BCX] X-11/POS FAIR LAUNCH NO PREMINE-ANONYMOUS on: June 30, 2014, 08:46:48 AM
So:
Summercoin 2.0
XLB 2.0
And BC 2.0

This is just wrong.

BC 2.0 - no needed Devs is active...

Sum2 - new dev swaped allmost all coins get new features.
all sum owner including me are happy that SUM1 and made something with SUM.


BC2 - Just lol at that pure scam attempt like many others...
Try Doge15... or DRK7
1984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: alts going down, remeber when they were going up on: June 30, 2014, 07:02:41 AM
was anybody here at the last rise in November 2013

all alts went down crashed hard everything was close to zero

and then look at January 2014


was anybody here at the rise march 2013

all alts went down crashed hard everything was close to zero

and then look at april/may 2013


time to rinse and repeat



Yup but there is to many of them
 not all will rise once again.

Now is about 400+ new coins on mintpal queue.
How many coins  from november  on top 100 market cap left how many of them left?
15%-20? - this is sad but most people are losing money buying alts without any future.
1985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: alts going down, remeber when they were going up on: June 30, 2014, 06:17:36 AM
Solution: A million plus new alt-coin investors/traders.

Well that would work. But I think, as much as I going to be hated on, there needs to be more Regulation. This market is a scammers heaven.

agreed

But that regulate it self idiots who paly scam alts are eliminating from market stolen BTC won't go on market anymore
lest volume then course less pressure on creating  new scam becouse not many BTC willing to buy their scams.
At the end only real coins will survive with strong communities and devs support.
And this is how it should be.

If you lose at scams - don't buy scam coins then.

1986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 30, 2014, 05:46:28 AM
LOL. who are dumping now? They don't know pos 2.0  Grin
Every alt coin is dumping today maybe not VRC which is on top pump.
i look at Mintpal and stealth adds some of them were scams and those coins
have eaten some BTC from market.

What the best new coin newbie devs - 50% of them they are same scam newbie devs
they start party all the time from beginning after they sell of premine/instamine coins...

People who were seeking BC clones WC - AC -.....SC- and much more they got burned
and have BIG bags of shit with no chance to sell off on next pump and buy back Blackcoins.

Market regulate itself speculative capital is stolen by scam devs like AC WC SC...
all of those scam were possible because of stealth add by mintpal.
And Mintpal is new cometary like Cryptsy was before.


- i hope some people will learn something today.
1987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 28, 2014, 11:37:06 AM
You guys still blindfolded?  Grin
...
Be a leader.......mhuhahahaha....pretentious fucks.

If you are PnD player you would dump BC long time ago... but wait those who wanted dump BC they did it already...
that is why price is not falling and not rising fast.

If you sell your coins low while it have community behing and developers you are stupid mayby for you join coin on pump is
better but not for me best time to buy is now when price with LOW volume is holding strong.
Just wait to see what will happends when volume on any coin will stop and price will drop...

BC hold strong at 20k area and even 70+ copy paste BC clones didn''t killed it so...
Sum of all BC coppies on coin market cap is about = ~20m $ in generał BC brand holds strong.

With good pump like today VRC can go over BC why not even XC was about 9m-11m $ market cap VRC can be pumped to this lvl mayby even higher
with screams "to da moon" but most interesting is that when is stop rising Cheesy most of VRC or any other PnD coin will dump and Jump to other train ag NEM Etherum in future.

PS: Solo BC multipool with curent rate will pump into BC about 5-9m $ in year Tongue... but in crypto when you play in 3day time periods this is out of many people mind.
I started BC story at buying at 3000-500-5000-nothing i waited market to calm down and then 17k - 23k - 25k becouse i belive in longer therms than 3day.
Features like Blackhalo will increase overal value of BC and much project which are in development too.

PPS: BC distribution about 20k unique adresses is allomost equal POW coin Quark... that is meaning something - new people are comming slowlly but they are comming.


1988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE WALL OF SHAME on: June 28, 2014, 12:19:52 AM
...

As posted above, all conjecture has been fully confirmed: The Black Hand is now part and parcel of Vericoin.

If you see hard pump in 5days coin goes 3x-10x and close to 5m market cap?
You don't need to be genius to see what will happened next.
Only crypto noobs or retards will buy now (as investment) price will be corrected to market value and those idiots who bough market ponzi on top they will be bernerd hard.

Educative game to all those market moments:
theblackdogeofwallstreet.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehcs4qg09Co

- just lenr to play ponzi games in crypto.
If you want invest invest in depths not on pumps...
And you will be smarter than 80% greedy people.
1989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 26, 2014, 10:52:24 AM
....
Reason why people do not invest in Blackcoin is that they already lost to much trying to invest in this coin, if you look in the history of the chart you will see that there was only a down movement at blackcoin. Some blame Blankhand Group or IconicExpert and some blame the Blackcoin team it self for manipulating the price to much. The real problem is that Blackcoin is so full by fud and misinformation so people throw their Bitcoin's else where.

One thing i can say for sure that the transparency is to low on this coin and Blackcoin can always just decide when they get any volume or not. People are not stupid and learn when they lost on the Pump and Dumps on Blackcoin.


Just basic knowledge is needed to be pretty good at crypto my "pretty safe" tip:
If you want play shit coins look for < 500k $ market cap every pump is easy to 1m $.

If you follow IE Wiz kind be prepared for 3rd option always Cheesy

1990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 26, 2014, 10:14:42 AM
As for price manipulation....

I'd say we are manipulated far less since the "noisy" people left. Our price has been far more stable as of late and the team just works hard in the background.

even now some of the more recent comments in this thread are here to cast FUD so, no news there then. Even our competitors know we are safe and stable and quietly acknowledge that we working VERY hard towards that future we all want.

So, manipulation? If so, its probably at an all time low, as we haven't been the centre of attention for those players of the game.

We stay stable through solid development and investment. We have become the safe harbour for volatile money lately and as such many smart people are quietly accumulating.

It's all good... oh and BTW... Halo..... you might want to listen out for the drums soon.... somethings coming....something big, something .......


Love the way you put some things into words Viz Smiley "safe harbour of volatile money" - that's exactly what we aim to be! Cheesy
Worst thing is when your invest and your coin is constantly goes down...
With BC which it sustain 20-24k flor.

As you noticed BC was jumping +-25% with every big PnD coin now bc keeps more calm.
What that mean many small players trapped with bag of SC Cloak Cinni Cry...
People should learn that to "da moon coin are spawned every week" - but died after that week
if you are lucky you wont have bag of it in pocket but those BTC was lost but some people had hard lesson of crypto.
luckly we are above 20k in all that mess - lower volume but sustain 20-24k this is impressive.

In BC we don't have now price manipulation to low volume just normal market movements.
Some things need time to being used like blackhalo .
1991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: June 25, 2014, 09:40:44 PM
this thread should be  >  NXT vs NEM vs NHZ vs NXTL(node) vs NAS vs QORA vs XC vs "any POS COIN"


Ähm no.

NXT vs NEM
in general nem will be better distributed NXT we should see that in volume.

Many people including me didnt invested becoise of fail dystrybution in NXT we see that in volume.
If NEM will have better volume that will mean something.
1992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS. Fair Distribution Cryptocurrency on: June 25, 2014, 10:45:21 AM
Should be Popular?

Will be Popular.

While other coin chase anon Cheesy this is real deal 1st e sport targeted coin that is why i  like it.
E sposts is rising...
Eg. Dota2
2012 prize  pool 1m $
2013 prize pool 2m $
2014 prize pool 10m+ $ and still rising... (People bought 40m $ to donate rewards... 1/4 goes to pool )
--> WIN in 10 years all will play e spot more that regular futball Cheesy....
in 20 years not many will play football at all.
If MIN fill that niche = WIN let others go shit like anon... sms whatever Min have own goal unique one.
 
1993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT WHY ALL THE HATE on: June 23, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
... If you critisize this Coin then show proofs. I like the functions in NXT and for me its the most undervalued coin but thats only my point of view.
...

I don't have nothing big against NXT but initial distribution was bad.
Proff ? simple Volume $ 71,760 today usually bounce between 50 000 - 200 000$ with such market cap ~70m...
Good distribution from TOP: LTC - Doge - DRK - even BC have better liquid than NXT. (and market cap 8x lower POS coin too )
...
Everyone see that is something wrong in that dystrybution full premined coins don't have usually liquid MSC RIPLE...

__________

About development NXT is very good but you need note that Java is much simpler than C++...
Bad side of that is java critical bugs and most malware is targeted on Java environment.
BTC wallet is so simple for security.

1994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 23, 2014, 01:23:19 AM
why is the price still so low with all these good news? really don't get it  Angry

Blackcoin is the only coin I know that doesn't move on rumors or news...

But, it will one day...

I know it needs to move but in a way it is also kind of good it doesn't skyrocket on rumors or announcements...a lot of times it's pump and dumps coordinated with news so really a coin ends up back down where it started. Hope we move up some and stay up though once we can actually try out 2.0 or blackhalo and it proves itself, reflected in value not a rumor.
Those info like Blackhallo and POS2.0 ale for long it won't hype price today.
Mass adaptation of smart contracts can help ext and other stuff for real use.
But this is not something that will rocket you in one day its slow process get people to use
those features.
So BC 20-25k is today BC flor area like many other coins without REAL point
of use we are mainly field for speculations at the end.
But today cryptomarket is quite BIG so it will be harder and harder for any coin.
1995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 21, 2014, 12:30:26 PM
Full decentralized...wtf...so BlackCoin will be first with decentralized system? How many devs are in your team guys? I havent been with that coin till now...looks pretty interesting
...

Developers who can makes something for BC (nice list wow Shocked) :

[/quote]
bump

haha i found those folks on github only i don't see Cheesy maarx or dzimbeck there or Doge or StGnu

So far i know:
rat4 core developer
dzimbeck - BlackcoinHalo Bithalo Nighttrader / allmost solo he made that stuff with some help of rat4 and stuardGT - i think
maarx webs around cool stuff rich list ext
Doge moltipool
StGnu BC games bests ponzi
blade87 cryptoalts pool
There are allso people who are making androind app
it is hard follow all 30 people mentioned by Vizque.
1996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 21, 2014, 12:10:12 PM
as I look at our Developers collaborative space I see over 30 people working....

there seems to be this train of thought amongst many that there is no dev team.
This is incorrect. We have many talented and skilled people working diligently away on things that are either in early stage or heading to alpha/beta.

We believe that many investors are happy with their investment and its current progress. In fact some of these invsetors are doing exactly as has been suggested, getting out their wallets and supporting things with cold hard cash. Thats what investment means, paying to develop products and services to improve the service offering and create a wider user base.

All in all things are nicely on track.
Problem is that many thing are just unclear what we are doing and what needs founds ext.
If eg. dzimbeck is working on his stuff 5 months it cab be even longer before we will see effects of those people work.
Development take time its not like week and ready.

______________________________________________
______________________________________________


Generally i was thinking about something like that:
- ONCE per month or two we vote for feature to develop and which we can afford to do it.
- We wote on it using BC just send BC to project name adress
- Winner gets all BC from voting.
- We contack IT companies / talented people who can make job we chose one he gives back price and approx delivery time
- We rise founds till we get all to pay developers


______________________________

If gets popular we can revive developers start ups
in future we can create something like Blackstratup.
And we vote on one of them and found it.
Money are payed in escrow when job is done.
Real IT companies will have different rules i expect but they are more reliable.

If people wont donate to get enough BC to move project into development phase they can blame only them self for leack of development Cheesy
In such scenario we have ALLWAYS sure feature in progress once per month and open to public with some ETA... and progress measure.


PS: I know one thing if people demand features they should pay for job and make talented people bagholders
and "mayby" later they will make something for bc for free.
1997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 21, 2014, 11:35:39 AM
....
1. Nicer GUI (Silk)
2. Different passwords for staking vs unlocking the wallet.
3. Anon transactions
4. Anon Messaging, chat
5. Exchange API
6.

These are some innovations that other coins are proposing.  There may be others too but I am not familiar.  

I know many of you will say this is just a P&D innovation but I think some of them will become part of the future and BC is missing the boat.
....

1. Nicer GUI (Silk) - DO you know PRACTICLE ?-  World coin they have nicer UI before, were they are ?...
2. Different passwords for staking vs unlocking the wallet. - OK can be interesting at the ends not boost BC IMO
3. Anon transactions - PnD feature and leads coin to Black market only at the end.
4. Anon Messaging, chat - Use ORC with encryption aor any other soft dedicated to it where you can even chose encryption method.
5. Exchange API  - can be funny but in reality if you have browser you are ready.(and safer)
______________________________________________
Blackcoin if you think that many developers will spend time just to boost you BC price i think can false hope we need get money to make it.
No many things are for free, if you want features HIRE people hire profesional IT firms and go like with PR firm.
Now mostly large user base like Doge is needed and currency to be used i told you Blackcoin store was closed becouse no one was using IT...
Same probles have doge not many people are using crypto ATM and for sure alts...

Do you know which developer will work with BC for free only that one who have BIG BC bag.
There is only one way make them bag holders and big bagholders...
So bounty like 100k BC for something Big is needed for making stuf...
Don't think that 100 people will build BC infrastructure just for you to make you able sell with 200% return.
You need to put inside REAL money to grow if not will be developed like any clone...


For adoption to work then innovation should focus in making BC much easier for the people to adopt.  
For example a kick ass Android wallet with some form of payment like Coinkite or a direct link to NightTrader so they can buy BC (easily) with PayPal or other methods.
We are a long way from mass adoption but through innovation, like previously mentioned above, BC can become more attractive for the public.  
What about a NICE INNOVATIVE WALLET to help mass adoption.

To do that effectively we need company which will secure that 24h - to make it live we need BIG user base who will use it.
Do you wnt run such company for free ? Or do you want invest 50 000$ into it and people won't use it at all.
You don't want let it DIE like Blackcoin store. Today only multi coin stores are living because larger user base.
We have now big amount of bag holders who want sell with +100% -100 000% return but this is not ONLY BC problem
same is even in BIG community DOGE... I was actively buying/selling so i know what i am talking about.

Point buyblack is that we only demand like you and me but we not are giving many form our side and we demand big return.

Simple question here guys - How many you donated to Blackhalo reward ?
( There is 20 000 BC - for me personalty is JOKE
we have HIGH END demands but we are paying dzimbeck 20 000BC= 5BTC for 5 months works (are you serious ? )...
it should be 100 000BC at least IMO.

If you need see real development progress we need get REAL cash to make talented people bagholders of BC.
Are you ready to pay BIG BC bouties to developers ? if Yes start with dzimbeck he deserves to get bigger reward
for job he is doing serioulsly...
1998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS. Fair Distribution Cryptocurrency on: June 20, 2014, 10:50:31 PM
450 votes in hour lol Cheesy
we can vote every hour.
1999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 20, 2014, 10:24:33 PM
...
IMO BC lacks innovation... I have said this over and over and over....  
...

Innovation - What you need more ?
Name it.
You need people who will use BC not just buy it to have it for 1000% income in future.
You know why BC store was closed ? Because none was using it this is sad but true...
But don't worry i tried sell some key games with Doge auction house and it wasn't so easy too...
People don't use crypto too much and that is main point.

Currency is for using not features business accepting BC and people who use it are needed not features as much...
2000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | Mentioned on WSJ! on: June 20, 2014, 08:57:18 PM
.... and in the meantime 'he who shall not be named' is pumping one turd after the other....
BC's revenge will be sweet....
one day....
If big investors will join BC...
that tiny PnD squads will be annihilated from play.
Rather from their market share...
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