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2901  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - Trading - BONUS on: December 17, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Quote
Profit since 2016/Nov/12 21:00 is: 739590.24 satoshi
Time since 2016/Nov/12 21:00 is: 34.5359490741 days.
Daily profit since 2016/Nov/12 21:00 is: 21415.0836977 satoshi.

Objective has been holden...

This datas show us that it is impossible that people are not interested for 739590.24 satoshi in 34.5359490741 days.

Winspiral's u2 system is not a site to attract a maximum people.
It is a system where people are active only if they believe that it is worth to be active.
So we have a perfect market regulation.

Why lose time by winspiral if you can earn more otherwhere?
But why lose time otherwhere if you can earn more by winspiral?

The U2 system is a game where people share an amount of satoshi.
People like it or not.

2902  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: December 16, 2016, 08:43:31 PM
I don't think that i have possive income coz i only get my profit from trading and from signature campaign and i am a student also where i need to focus on my studies because i am taking up Programming ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i can say that i can really make profit with trading and i don't invest my money where i use to help my self for my daily expenses.

Is trading is passive income? I do not think so. To trade, you need to exert a lot of effort. A passive income is to invest minimal time and money and make a profit

Trading bitcoin is not passive income.Your income is the difference between buying and selling...so ot can even be lost.
But when you trade shares it can happen that you get dividends...so it is passive income. (for the dividends)
2903  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - Trading - BONUS on: December 16, 2016, 01:33:16 PM
You can now learn more about vouchers.

http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net/voucher.php

I recall that vouchers are offered each time you claim shares for free...

Use the vouchers ...it is worth satoshi.
2904  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 16, 2016, 01:27:57 PM
If you don't see a secure lock on the top of the web browser that you are using SSL certificate. Then that is one sign that it is likely a scam website if they want you to send a payment of some sort.
I see many ponzi scammer sites using this certificate. It doesn't mean something isn't a scam if uses this lock secure.
Very easy to know if a site is scam: when they offer profit very good to be true or if they don't explain clear how their system works and how they get money to pay you back. We don't have many legit investments now, hard to trust sites on the internet to store your money and give you income.
You can quickly realize if it's ponzi or HYIP with their mechanism within a minute . Like you said , most of HYIP not explain where they can get money for your investment back. The site offers huge return within day , you can labeled them as ponzi and stay away.

"" most of HYIP not explain where they can get money for your investment back""
If you need explaination it is better not to invest...you should understand from yourself.
2905  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Where do I get free Bitcoin? The maintained list of verified free Bitcoin Sites. on: December 16, 2016, 11:13:08 AM
the problem with most of lists is that they contain only faucets with referrer link...good once without referrer link are push away.
best rewarded faucets are often without referrer link of with low reward for referrers.
Normal...one can not pay twice good.
2906  Economy / Securities / Re: How much interest is reasonable for you? on: December 16, 2016, 11:08:21 AM
My system has given 63% for 7 months or so.
This is not a promise but a fact because i cannot say how much it will be in the future.
if you are interested you can follow here:
http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net/roivip.php

It is market regulated:
This means it depends on the incomes and the amount invested.
Market regulated means as well that it is regulated by the members themselves.
Income is changing and investment amount as well...and the roi is the result of this 2 factors.

This is a excellent example for people who see ponzi shemes and scams everywhere.
2907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Please teach me how to grow my bitcoin on: December 16, 2016, 10:58:20 AM
Best is to teach yourself with the possibilities you can find on the net.
Sometimes it is even free to practice.
2908  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 16, 2016, 09:14:27 AM
snip

I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people?

You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you?

Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you.
(lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money...

What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system.

Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks.

You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam.

Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit...
Hug...Old man has spoken (lol)

Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system?

Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.".
Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works."

Because people want not understand...(lol)

Don't tell the people that it doesn't understand your system. They do, we do really understand that something while running has to be shady.

And it seems you changed your signature, you are quite pushy to get people to scam huh? Just don't use the word impossible to lose.

Then people will understand that your investment is legit, as you said. It is too good to be true.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new
2909  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Is for you winspiral a scammer? on: December 16, 2016, 09:10:56 AM
So let me see if I have this straight. You were offering some kind of "investment" in which if would be 100% "guaranteed" that the original invested amount be returned within 3 months, and those who invested would also possibly receive some additional interest as well.

How could that possibly be anything other then a scam? Or at the very least, you are horribly misleading investors as to the risks as nothing is risk free.

You have understood the system.
Cashback after 3 months + profit.
I have never said somewhere how much profit.
All investors have been paid back with profit...you can see each profit on the site.
The site has now merged with my U2 system.The profit from site above goes now in the u2 site.
U2cloudmining is now absolutly free not deposit possible.
I can not see scam and it is impossible to tell this a ponzi sheme.

Of course nothing is risk free...the sky can fall our head...
But if I say my systems are risk free it means that the system is risk free not the server or your computer or an atomic war...etc...

For me all agression and comments about my systems are not founded.

Now about design and writing...I'm French...and I like write English even it it is poor English.

About advertising:
You are never agressed with popups.
Banners are from my sponsors and ads compagnies and my own referrer links.
From them I pay members profit and the polemic id not the design or the poor English but the polemic is that I'm taken for a scammer.
I never start a polemic if a design or a site does not please me...
All this polemic started about promoting a ponzi,and I have never promote a ponzi.

Now I am mainly redtrusted just because I have redtrust and what i say is not believed.

I offer daily (in average) nawadays over 20000 satoshi to my members.
Allow me to make my sites like I want and not how peole want...I'm the payer (lol)
I do not ask people to use my site...they are free (lol)
But I can not accept that people say I'm a scammer and a ponzi runner it it is wrong.

My U2cliudmining site has over 50 pages...it is hard to explain all here just in posts.

Then the polemic about my cloudmining site:
yes at the start it was a cloudmining site.
yes an antminer u2 worked.
yes I have asked investlment to finance it.
yes I have found investors who have send me satoshi.
Yes the u2 miner has been resold.
yes all real investors from the start have been cashed back with profit.
yes now U2cloudmining runs without miner and makes only profit with advertising and referrals of faucets.

My system is market regulated:
This means I offer (nowadays) 21000 satoshi daily and members share these 21000 satoshi.
Active members and clever members and big reinvestors earn more...but never I offer more then I can offer.
It's not a ponzi.
When I say it is ompossible to lose it is why it is impossible to lose.
This is the other polemic.
Why it is impossible to lose?
Because all real investors have been cashed back with profit and now all deposit are not allowed.
So it is impossible for a member to lose something.
trading insides the U2 is only possible with earned satoshi.
So if members "play" the can only lose a part of earning...so it is impossible to lose more you have earned...

Ok...it seems confuse:
But believe me it is 100 times more hard to programme my system than using it.

Some people just use the U2 like a faucet...
Other use a little more strategic...
Other learn about and even ask me if something is not clear about the over 50 pages of the site.

I agree if you do not like faucets and trading you will not like my system.
But it does not matter...
I have my fun to programme it and so long I have one member to use my system it will work...even if the members use the system only once per Month.
But it is market regulated.
This mean if a member is alone he earne 30 times 20000 satoshi...for long months...ok after long months the 20000 would decrease.

The system U2 is evolutive...
I'm a selfmade webmaster...(lol)
I can not make a full finished system in once...it is why I programme page after page relative my inspiration and my programmation skills...
My fun is as well to learn programmation.

Voucher on my U2 system are new...
Little by little I see if members have understood the principle...little by little I will give more help if i see where people have understanding problems...
To show how it works it is often better to show how much such or such members have earned and why.

My system is inter-active.
If some people do not use the vouchers:
I ask with messages if they do so by strategy or because they do not understand the principle.
So they think about and often change strategy.

OK...many try my system and go away...but it is because the system does not please them...never they have said they were scammed.






















2910  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 15, 2016, 08:49:57 PM
I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.

How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?

It's quite obvious. There are a lot of warning bells that should hopefully get any scam sites out of your way:

- Admin cannot speak good English
- Admin has a history of scamming, or spamming
- Domain registration is only for a year or less, when they claim to be here for the long term
- Any "HYIPs", "Doublers"
- Anything that is too good to be true.

I'm French...My English is poor...are all webmasters with poor English scammers?
NO
- Admin has a history of scamming, or spamming
history doeas not mean realy...we never talk about the history talkers...
- Domain registration is only for a year or less, when they claim to be here for the long term
This does mean nothing...
- Any "HYIPs", "Doublers"
HYIP does not mean scam
- Anything that is too good to be true.
My U2 system is too good to be true ...sorry it exists...(lol)

2911  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: 【Faucethub.Io】【Xapo】Happy to launch my faucet on: December 15, 2016, 07:57:08 PM
Edit : The claim button is correctly visible in my browser. Which browser/device are you using?
Still I made some changes let me know if you still facing same issue.
Ok now it seems all working and i can see claim button clearly without zooming out or doing anything. Thanks for quick fix, both reward amount and clean site design is nice. No pop ups are plus points..

Now it it frozen for me...after 4 claim
I see the claim button but it is not clickable.
2912  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: 【Faucethub.Io】【Xapo】Happy to launch my faucet Max 200 sat/20 Minnutes on: December 15, 2016, 04:53:36 PM
Nice faucet...i like it.
Thanks if you have faucet list or rotator than you can add it on your list or rotaotr you can make 10% referral commission from your referrals for life time.

I had not found the referrer link...
I do not like put my email in referrer link...
it is often used by bots...

No you do not need to add your email as referral id it's different faucet. 1st you need to login with your Email/btc address than click on Referal link it'll show your referral link with your id number. See below image


Sorry...
All is ok ...I has cheese in my eyes (lol)
I will propose your faucet on my site.
2913  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: 【Faucethub.Io】【Xapo】Happy to launch my faucet Max 200 sat/20 Minnutes on: December 15, 2016, 04:46:37 PM
Nice faucet...i like it.
Thanks if you have faucet list or rotator than you can add it on your list or rotaotr you can make 10% referral commission from your referrals for life time.

I had not found the referrer link...
I do not like put my email in referrer link...
it is often used by bots...

EDITION
I have found where the ref link is and ok...no need to put the email address.
Sorry.
2914  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 15, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
Here the discussion is about the wrong saying of a member in this post...i can not use my right if answer other where if it is sais here...

About your advise about scam:
My systems are programmed for the fun...it's not a company...
When i say my systems are  risk free and you can only earn it is so...
You believe it or not...but I can not accept that  someone says that i'm a scammer without proves.

Honestly you cannot please everyone, and you don't have to push the idea to other people.  They have their own mind and decision.  All you can do now is prove that your site/system is really not  a ponzi or scam  not by words but by result.   

But it is an evidence that it is not a ponzi sheme.
2915  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 15, 2016, 03:43:12 PM
~snipped


Shouldn't  promoting your site/service be in Service Announcement?  Or if the activity is being discussed, should it be in Service Discussion?  I have a neutral stance about your project but please use the proper board for your announcement /discussion.



There are several way to know if the sites is trying to scam you.

You can first check the domain name.  It should bring an alarm if the domain  is named after some brand that actually don't have any relation to them
You can also check the layer of Url requesting our credentials.  There is a big possiblity that phishing may occur, some site intentionally resembles other legit site just to get your credentials.
Check the validity of the SSL.
Check the contact information, most scam site does not have contact information.
Check for grammars and spelling, legit company will always want to show professionalism, so even if they are not native of English, they will hire for the content of their site.
Check terms and agreement.
If they are shipping item, you can check their shipping terms and agreement and return policy.
Most of all check their customer support.

Here are some pointers that may determine if the site is a possible scam or not.

Here the discussion is about the wrong saying of a member in this post...i can not use my right if answer other where if it is sais here...

About your advise about scam:
My systems are programmed for the fun...it's not a company...
When i say my systems are  risk free and you can only earn it is so...
You believe it or not...but I can not accept that  someone says that i'm a scammer without proves.
2916  Economy / Services / Re: Get 0.5$ btc for eazy work on: December 15, 2016, 03:34:24 PM

You are perhaps right...but it is 0.5$ in bitcoin...
And so it is on this forum...people read half and then I'm red trusted (lol)

Your case is completely different and was discussed many times. Your way of earning only in your imagination is not piramid. It seems that probably unknowingly you don't warn people about the risks.

Here someone open thread with suspicious proposition, and disappear. Maybe I'm too suspicious, but I've seen too many scams to leave this without comment and warning.



I know about what I say and have said here...
I doubt you can find one error (lol)

I can not warn about risks when no risks are.
Find me one risk and I will be pleased to agree...
So far only hundreds  wrong comments and not one proof that it is possible to lose with my systems.
i'm the programmer of my systems...if i know that it is impossible to lose it is because I have programmed the impossibility to lose.

In ly last system (the u2) they are 305 members...find me one loser...
In my last ended system (where all polemics started) all investors have been paid back with profit...
Find me one loser...
here you can only find wrong writers but you have never found one winsporakl's loser or scammed people...
It would be time after over 20 years to find one (lol)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new



2917  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: 【Faucethub.Io】【Xapo】Happy to launch my faucet Max 200 sat/20 Minnutes on: December 15, 2016, 03:12:23 PM
Nice faucet...i like it.
2918  Economy / Services / Re: Get 0.5$ btc for eazy work on: December 15, 2016, 03:09:44 PM
This situation is even more ridiculous - check OP trust section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=518574
In two comments he is called a scammer! How can you trust someone like that!?
Always before you do any deal with other user, check his trust section!

The two scammer comments are under "Sent Feedback", i. e. feedback the OP gave to EliteFoxi.  Just check EliteFoxi's trust section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=881449.

To be fair: the OP did not yet get negative but one positive feedback on a US$ 44/BTC 0.20 deal.

Yes, you have absolutely right, I comment this situation in next my post here:

Sorry, didn't see this :-)


Anyway, now it is almost two days that he is not coming back. Of course always something important can stop him and he don't have time, but in this case it looks a bit suspicious.

Absolutely.  It's already suspicious that he offers .5 BTC for just starting to download ten files.  Actually it does not surprises me that he does not show up here since two days.  But let's see …

// Alex

You are perhaps right...but it is 0.5$ in bitcoin...
And so it is on this forum...people read half and then I'm red trusted (lol)
2919  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 15, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
snip

I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people?

You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you?

Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you.
(lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money...

What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system.

Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks.

You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam.

Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit...
Hug...Old man has spoken (lol)

Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system?

Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.".
Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works."

Because people want not understand...(lol)

In fact they don't want to understand, but because from the beginning they've eaten or hypnotized from words or promises which they have provided then it is enough to make most people forget to reasonable or good thoughts. Because each word contains a good thought and also a ponzi is the system most widely used or owned. So if we can get a profit in it, Indeed profitable ponzi but can we get a loss if it can not control themselves and think well

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new

People here talk about generalities and often only half because the are under hurry...(lol)
I have never run a ponzi site and my only promises have been that it is impossible to lose.
People here can not understand that such thing is possible.
I accept that people are wrong and "believe" i'm a scammer and a ponzi runner...
But I can not accept that they say I'm a ponzi runner and a scammer because I have never scammed and run a ponzi site.

2920  Economy / Scam Accusations / Is for you winspiral a scammer? on: December 15, 2016, 11:10:00 AM
I'm accused to be a scammer and a ponzi runner.

I'm already over 20 years on the net and have made many many sites (google can confirm it)

I'm on the net with the same nickname and my real name is easy to find as well.

The only argument is always around the same:
winspiral is redtrusted by respectable members here so it is a scammer and a ponzi sheme runner.

It does not matter for me...
But I offer free satoshi and all these lies misslead people here.

Please prove that winspiral is a scammer and do not just follow my red trusters...because it will never end.



 
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