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December 14, 2016, 03:41:25 PM |
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How to come that you are saying, that telling and warning the people about fact and scam investments as you promote is a type of misleading the people?
A scammer promoter will always a scam promoter and he will not admit about his true color of his promotion.
And wait, why should I ashamed to tell people that you are scamming people with your system? You should be.
I have only promote my own sites and I know better then who you want that I have never owned scam sites. How can you say that I'm a scammer promoter? Like I said:shame on you. How can you say that I'm scamming people with my system... So far my systems have only made profit for people. Your trust feed back will tell everything about it and there's no need for explanation that you are truly promoting a scam system. And you are fooling people that it is impossible to lose, so stop fooling around it is a disgrace that you are getting profit on the deposits of other people. You keep on saying that your system made profit for people, stop encouraging people here with investing into scams. What a shame. ok...this means that if you are red trusted you are a scammer? How can i get profit from other investment if niw deposit are not possible and f all deposit have been cashbacked with profit... really you are not honnest with yourself. I offer at my members nowadays over 20000 satoshi daily...and they can not deposit...if you see scam in this you should consult a doctor...(lol) Why do you red trust me not? I know why...because you could just say:I red trust winspiral because he is redtrusted...(lol) I hope you can good sleep...because you mislead people and you avoid them to earn little cash with fun. Your wrong believing does not matter for me...but you are fun destroyer for other people who could learn about trading while earning. Yes, you are a scammer if you have red trust because those DT members will not tagged that to you if you are not involve with a scam. And it is seems that your site is a scam so they have tagged you a red trust, it tells everything about your system. So you don't have to explain about it. I explain what i want...(lol) This shows just that you can not think yourself...you need other people to make your opinion even if other people are wrong... It is undiscutable:you do not know what you are talking about. It does not matter for me,but it matters for people you misslead.Fortunately some people can think themself... Many people can not accept that my system is UNIQUE where it is impossible to lose. I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people? You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you? Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you. (lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money...
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December 14, 2016, 03:47:41 PM |
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people? You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you? Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you. (lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money... What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system. Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks. You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam.
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winspiral
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December 14, 2016, 06:06:12 PM |
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people? You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you? Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you. (lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money... What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system. Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks. You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam. Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit... Hug...Old man has spoken (lol)
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December 15, 2016, 05:08:46 AM Last edit: December 15, 2016, 05:23:54 AM by sunsilk |
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people? You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you? Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you. (lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money... What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system. Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks. You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam. Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit... Hug...Old man has spoken (lol) Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system? Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.". Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works."
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winspiral
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December 15, 2016, 07:55:40 AM |
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people? You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you? Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you. (lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money... What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system. Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks. You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam. Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit... Hug...Old man has spoken (lol) Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system? Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.". Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works." Because people want not understand...(lol)
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December 15, 2016, 02:15:23 PM |
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people? You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you? Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you. (lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money... What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system. Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks. You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam. Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit... Hug...Old man has spoken (lol) Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system? Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.". Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works." Because people want not understand...(lol) In fact they don't want to understand, but because from the beginning they've eaten or hypnotized from words or promises which they have provided then it is enough to make most people forget to reasonable or good thoughts. Because each word contains a good thought and also a ponzi is the system most widely used or owned. So if we can get a profit in it, Indeed profitable ponzi but can we get a loss if it can not control themselves and think well
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December 15, 2016, 02:45:59 PM |
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people? You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you? Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you. (lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money... What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system. Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks. You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam. Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit... Hug...Old man has spoken (lol) Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system? Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.". Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works." Because people want not understand...(lol) In fact they don't want to understand, but because from the beginning they've eaten or hypnotized from words or promises which they have provided then it is enough to make most people forget to reasonable or good thoughts. Because each word contains a good thought and also a ponzi is the system most widely used or owned. So if we can get a profit in it, Indeed profitable ponzi but can we get a loss if it can not control themselves and think well https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#newPeople here talk about generalities and often only half because the are under hurry...(lol) I have never run a ponzi site and my only promises have been that it is impossible to lose. People here can not understand that such thing is possible. I accept that people are wrong and "believe" i'm a scammer and a ponzi runner... But I can not accept that they say I'm a ponzi runner and a scammer because I have never scammed and run a ponzi site.
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December 15, 2016, 03:29:48 PM |
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Shouldn't promoting your site/service be in Service Announcement? Or if the activity is being discussed, should it be in Service Discussion? I have a neutral stance about your project but please use the proper board for your announcement /discussion.
There are several way to know if the sites is trying to scam you. You can first check the domain name. It should bring an alarm if the domain is named after some brand that actually don't have any relation to them You can also check the layer of Url requesting our credentials. There is a big possiblity that phishing may occur, some site intentionally resembles other legit site just to get your credentials. Check the validity of the SSL. Check the contact information, most scam site does not have contact information. Check for grammars and spelling, legit company will always want to show professionalism, so even if they are not native of English, they will hire for the content of their site. Check terms and agreement. If they are shipping item, you can check their shipping terms and agreement and return policy. Most of all check their customer support. Here are some pointers that may determine if the site is a possible scam or not.
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December 15, 2016, 03:43:12 PM |
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Shouldn't promoting your site/service be in Service Announcement? Or if the activity is being discussed, should it be in Service Discussion? I have a neutral stance about your project but please use the proper board for your announcement /discussion.
There are several way to know if the sites is trying to scam you. You can first check the domain name. It should bring an alarm if the domain is named after some brand that actually don't have any relation to them You can also check the layer of Url requesting our credentials. There is a big possiblity that phishing may occur, some site intentionally resembles other legit site just to get your credentials. Check the validity of the SSL. Check the contact information, most scam site does not have contact information. Check for grammars and spelling, legit company will always want to show professionalism, so even if they are not native of English, they will hire for the content of their site. Check terms and agreement. If they are shipping item, you can check their shipping terms and agreement and return policy. Most of all check their customer support. Here are some pointers that may determine if the site is a possible scam or not. Here the discussion is about the wrong saying of a member in this post...i can not use my right if answer other where if it is sais here... About your advise about scam: My systems are programmed for the fun...it's not a company... When i say my systems are risk free and you can only earn it is so... You believe it or not...but I can not accept that someone says that i'm a scammer without proves.
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December 15, 2016, 04:13:37 PM |
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Here the discussion is about the wrong saying of a member in this post...i can not use my right if answer other where if it is sais here...
About your advise about scam: My systems are programmed for the fun...it's not a company... When i say my systems are risk free and you can only earn it is so... You believe it or not...but I can not accept that someone says that i'm a scammer without proves.
Honestly you cannot please everyone, and you don't have to push the idea to other people. They have their own mind and decision. All you can do now is prove that your site/system is really not a ponzi or scam not by words but by result.
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December 15, 2016, 04:25:50 PM |
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Here the discussion is about the wrong saying of a member in this post...i can not use my right if answer other where if it is sais here...
About your advise about scam: My systems are programmed for the fun...it's not a company... When i say my systems are risk free and you can only earn it is so... You believe it or not...but I can not accept that someone says that i'm a scammer without proves.
Honestly you cannot please everyone, and you don't have to push the idea to other people. They have their own mind and decision. All you can do now is prove that your site/system is really not a ponzi or scam not by words but by result. But it is an evidence that it is not a ponzi sheme.
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December 15, 2016, 06:25:19 PM |
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Check if you can see HTTPS and the locked icon in the address bar it means the information you provide is more
secured, Analyze what they are offering, If it contradicts into something and has too many grammatical errors
then its probably a scam. You can check the site via google safe browsing and read some users review
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December 15, 2016, 08:23:05 PM |
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Check if you can see HTTPS and the locked icon in the address bar it means the information you provide is more
secured, Analyze what they are offering, If it contradicts into something and has too many grammatical errors
then its probably a scam. You can check the site via google safe browsing and read some users review
If you are in the U.S. you can check the business in the BBB The Better Business Bureau and see how good their reputation is, if the business is serious you should find it there and find good reviews, if there are bad reviews you should avoid that business.
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December 15, 2016, 08:26:59 PM |
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I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.
How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
It's quite obvious. There are a lot of warning bells that should hopefully get any scam sites out of your way: - Admin cannot speak good English - Admin has a history of scamming, or spamming - Domain registration is only for a year or less, when they claim to be here for the long term - Any "HYIPs", "Doublers" - Anything that is too good to be true.
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December 15, 2016, 08:49:57 PM |
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I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.
How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
It's quite obvious. There are a lot of warning bells that should hopefully get any scam sites out of your way: - Admin cannot speak good English - Admin has a history of scamming, or spamming - Domain registration is only for a year or less, when they claim to be here for the long term - Any "HYIPs", "Doublers" - Anything that is too good to be true. I'm French...My English is poor...are all webmasters with poor English scammers? NO - Admin has a history of scamming, or spamming history doeas not mean realy...we never talk about the history talkers... - Domain registration is only for a year or less, when they claim to be here for the long term This does mean nothing... - Any "HYIPs", "Doublers" HYIP does not mean scam - Anything that is too good to be true. My U2 system is too good to be true ...sorry it exists...(lol)
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December 16, 2016, 01:51:40 AM |
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If you don't see a secure lock on the top of the web browser that you are using SSL certificate. Then that is one sign that it is likely a scam website if they want you to send a payment of some sort.
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December 16, 2016, 04:24:58 AM |
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people? You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you? Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you. (lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money... What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system. Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks. You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam. Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit... Hug...Old man has spoken (lol) Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system? Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.". Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works." Because people want not understand...(lol) Don't tell the people that it doesn't understand your system. They do, we do really understand that something while running has to be shady. And it seems you changed your signature, you are quite pushy to get people to scam huh? Just don't use the word impossible to lose. Then people will understand that your investment is legit, as you said. It is too good to be true.
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December 16, 2016, 04:50:30 AM |
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If you don't see a secure lock on the top of the web browser that you are using SSL certificate. Then that is one sign that it is likely a scam website if they want you to send a payment of some sort.
I see many ponzi scammer sites using this certificate. It doesn't mean something isn't a scam if uses this lock secure. Very easy to know if a site is scam: when they offer profit very good to be true or if they don't explain clear how their system works and how they get money to pay you back. We don't have many legit investments now, hard to trust sites on the internet to store your money and give you income.
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December 16, 2016, 09:14:27 AM |
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people? You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you? Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you. (lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money... What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system. Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks. You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam. Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit... Hug...Old man has spoken (lol) Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system? Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.". Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works." Because people want not understand...(lol) Don't tell the people that it doesn't understand your system. They do, we do really understand that something while running has to be shady. And it seems you changed your signature, you are quite pushy to get people to scam huh? Just don't use the word impossible to lose. Then people will understand that your investment is legit, as you said. It is too good to be true. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new
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December 16, 2016, 10:32:01 AM |
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If you don't see a secure lock on the top of the web browser that you are using SSL certificate. Then that is one sign that it is likely a scam website if they want you to send a payment of some sort.
I see many ponzi scammer sites using this certificate. It doesn't mean something isn't a scam if uses this lock secure. Very easy to know if a site is scam: when they offer profit very good to be true or if they don't explain clear how their system works and how they get money to pay you back. We don't have many legit investments now, hard to trust sites on the internet to store your money and give you income. My faith is lost in hyips and i dont bother to put my money in their anymore, and i defined them all as scam so that i will not be lured by them again, and my thinking is so true among them , those certificates are been used to lured people and i saw many hyip site using that thats why we cannot call them legit ones if they show little proofs. We just need to move on and find good ways to earn theirs no money on hyips but unstead they will surely scam us.
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