BEWARE!!This is the pvt message I got from OP: Name and address. And would you be interested in buying a asic after your sample? If so how many BTC you have?
He is clearly trying to gather personal info, together with BTC wealth, of members of these forums. When I requested him to ship to a P.O. Box, he obviously refused. THIS IS AN OBVIOUS SCAM. NEVER SEND YOUR PERSONAL DETAILS TO AN UNKOWN AND UNTRUSTED MEMBER OF THESE FORUMSYou have been warned.
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CanadianGuy had no assurance you guys would pay up if he was to be right!! Yet he paid up his end, drop it already.
i had my bitcoins ready to pay him if i lost, wheres the excitement in a bet if you have nothing to lose? Just FYI, bets that were not honored resulted in scammer tags in the past, but all the variables will be taken into consideration. |
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Price rising again with very low volume... painting the tape? Can we expect touching $110 today and $115 tomorrow? Damn manipulators  Let the bubble deflate completely! Anyway, i'm not buying it, sitting 100% on fiat until we go under $80, then i will start purchasing little by little. Oh man, you're going to be butthurt when it hits $120. On the other hand, I can see $120 then crash to $90 and below. If not, $180 in a month. Calm down boys. Before going to $180 it has to break $166. When $166 is broken, the sky is the limit. |
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Del anuncio de Ebay: 50 GH/S Bitcoin MINER
This is a pre-order. I have already purchased and hold receipt.
Order placed on 30/04/2013. Butterfly labs plans to start delivering the Asics on July.
Pre-order number: 100049816. Products are shipped according to placement in the order queue.
The day I receive this unit, I will forward directly to you, next day delivery.
Shipments to Canarias, Ceuta and Melilla will pay an extra charge of 40 euros.
Today this Asic generates 63 Bitcoins by months, which is around 5.500,00 euros.
Payment Options: Bank Transfer, Paypal or Bitcoin.
I will apply a 5% if you pay in Bitcoins.
No refunds. If you have any question please feel free to ask.
All my feedbacks are positive. Muy majo hacerle la cuenta a la gente de lo que generaría la máquina HOY, cuando sabes que cuando les llegue generará infinitamente menos. Si quieres te hago la cuenta de todos los TH/s que tiene que entregar BFL antes de tu pedido, y verás que lo que genere en ese momento será más bien 5BTC al mes, si es que llega - pero creo que esto ya lo sabes. Si quieres echar tu las cuentas y reirte un rato, dos fuentes: http://bfl.ptz.ro/y http://organofcorti.blogspot.com.es/Luego, chequea tus mates, el Bitcoin está a 82€, según tus cuentas a 87€. De verdad, que parece que todo el mundo es muy listo y se quiere aprovechar del novato que no entiende. |
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Ni os molestéis, la preorden es del 30 de Abril...
Eres un tio super simpático. Ojala haya en el mundo mucha gente como tú. Si, lo mejor es que hayan muchos como tú, intentando sacar provecho del trabajo de otros. Vender preordenes debería ser considerado delito, como las reventas en las Ventas. Pretendes que algún incauto pague 3500 euros por algo que a tí te costo 2200 hace un mes, eso es generosidad... En serio está pidiendo 3.500€ por un pedido DE HACE UN MES? Yo flipo, en el mundo del BTC la teoría del más tonto se aplica en su máxima expresión, nunca había visto algo igual fuera de este mundillo. |
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Guys, stop arguing, if you feel bad because he didn't pay a bet that he confirmed (which he did IMO) open a scam accusation thread in the appropriate subforum and the mods will decide.
Just FYI, bets that were not honored resulted in scammer tags in the past, but all the variables will be taken into consideration.
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Ni os molestéis, la preorden es del 30 de Abril...
Si los de septiembre no se han recibido pasados 10 meses los de Abril seran para febrero del 14' No se han recibido ni siquiera los pedidos del 24 de Junio. Lo único que están entregando, son unidades de 5GH/s, las de más potencia ni existen aún. No las ha recibido NADIE. En serio, ojalá los de Abril fueran a recibir sus unidades de 30/60/1500GH/s en Febrero 2014, eso significaría que yo estoy a punto de recibir las mías. Pero permiteme dudarlo. Creo que "Febrero 2014" es una fecha posible para los que pidieron sus unidades de potencia superior a 5GH/s en verano del 2012. Visto lo visto, yo ya doy mi pedido por perdido. Cuando me llegue, mi unidad me servirá para calentarme el desayuno y poco más. Lo digo en serio... |
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Isn't that gambling, defined? Some day traders do more than simply watch the price & ignore past performance etc.
Maybe it would be if the market had any volume, but since mid April/early May the market moves exclusively at the whims of traders who have 6 or 7 figures. There's little to no combined influence from a multitude of smaller players to offset the manipulation attempts of traders with huge amounts of fiat on the exchanges. People with a few thousand or a few tens of thousands of dollars can't move the market. Their combined activity can, but as individuals, they can't. So when volume is low and the price just sits there, whether a trade is profitable or not comes down to what move the whales make, because there's no market momentum because nobody wants to trade when the price is above 100 unless it's rippling from a large move. You can't tell what move one or two people with that much manipulative ability are going to make via TA. The run we just went through to 135 after the 60-166-79 correction, once it rallied above 105ish, only happened because one or a few people would show up in the early morning or the middle of the night and shove the market up with a 5,000BTC buy, let the market settle, and then do it again the next day or the day after that. The moves raised the price because speculators decided to take a shot on riding the train, that kind of a move doesn't incite a panic sell, and the other whales won't dump against you because it's more profitable to wait for the combined momentum of smaller players who are buying to fizzle out before dumping. It is pretty much exactly what has been happening since the dumps below 120 last week as well. The market doesn't have confidence in the price above $100, period. The only reason it's been floating here since the post-166 correction is because the market is entirely speculation and bots. Bots give the illusion that trades are happening and the market is moving upward and a whale comes behind that illusion (probably because it's his bot) and plays against it. Low volume is very dangerous. If people thought the price was profitable we'd see the kind of volume you see between 80-90-100. People are only buying right now because they're short term speculating, exchanging B for fiat for their business, or buying and holding and not giving a fuck about what happens on smaller time frames. The price isn't dropping because a few people with 20 or 200B simply can't affect market depth. And even when they all sell at once and do affect market depth, you still get phenomena like the other day when someone showed up and bought 15kB from 101 to 111. Under this kind of circumstance a hard, downward, long term correction is inevitable and it's only a question of how to make money in the interim. Manipulation like this is actually very damaging to the market because when the correction does come and it makes the news, it makes a lot of the potential newcomers to Bitcoin feel the whole system is a fraudulent scam. You only saw the massive swing from doubles to 250+ because of a huge influx of new players. If that phenomenon never happens again, you can completely forget about ever seeing $200B again, let alone higher. +1 Couldn't agree more I also agree. Lack of volume is a bad signal for bulls, but nevertheless BTC is such a tiny market that a 7 figures player can move it at his will. We can all be expecting a downturn, and a couple of whales can trigger a 30% increase in the blink of an eye, and the opposite is also true. That said, is clear to me that there's absolutely no confidence on over-$100 prices. Apart from yesterday, where we saw upwards movement backed by significant volume, during the last weeks all the rallies were on ridiculous volume. Unfortunately for the short-term bulls, when volume appeared it was to bring the price way down. I think things will change a lot as soon as we approach $50-$60. As you all know I think $50 was the very post-bubble bottom, and that we won't go below that (even if I wouldn't completely discard shortly visiting $30ish). It seems to me that a lot of players have the same impression, so I expect huge buying pressure in the $50-$60 range. That said, reading these forums it seems that even the perma-bulls are holding fiat ATM. Heck, I've been almost 100% of BTC since late 2012, and right now I'm 80% fiat - the 20% BTC remaining was bought below $15 and is resting in a paper wallet for good, no intention to get rid of those coins in the next years to come. So, if someone like me is 80% fiat at the moment, sometimes I wonder if there's any trader left to sell. I guess we will have to count on ASICminer coins  |
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I'm currently 100% fiat again, looking for a suitable price to buy back in (very speculatively, I'm looking at something around USD52, since I think USD50 will be a psychological trigger with mass-buy in, that will see the beginning of a steady, sustainable, non-bubbled climb)
Oh boy, we are really all on the same page. In fact, after reading your post, I decided to put my biggest bid a tad higher, it was at $52.25 and now it's now at $53.75 (aprox., I'm trading in EUR). My biggest bid during the April, 10th crash was unfilled, as it was at 37ish€, and I missed it for such a low margin... I think the absolute low was 37.8€ or something like that. I still did a nice profit as I re-loaded the truck at an average price of 50€ish ($65ish), but still I don't want that to happen again |
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Bearish triangle closing very soon. Up or down? I say down, but I don't discard breaking $110 for a while before the crash to double digits. I speculated a bit between yesterday and today, bought at 77€ and sold between 81.22€ and 81.77€ during last night and this morning. Volume very low, not easy at all to trade +150BTC ATM avoiding slippage.  |
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We are in the "early/pricing" stage of an exponentially growing (later: S-growing) phenomenon. If everything goes as it has done in several bubbles before, the great bubble will form when 1-2% of the population had adopted the technology. For Bitcoin, this means about 50 million adapters that actually use bitcoin for something. This "something has so far been lagging, though".
I withdrew my prediction for $300 for 2013, but this does not mean that I was sure it will not happen. In 2014 it will happen for sure. Or some 1.5-sigma event happens.
The great moves have been able to push the price up roughly by an order of magnitude. We need 4 such moves and the rest of this year is not long enough time. April-June 2014 is now my target.
Current price I would just buy as much as I can.
So, willing to do an escrowed bet against everybody willing to join in this forums, regarding NOT arriving at $300,000 per BTC by 2014? |
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Pues si es de 50GHs es muy reciente, hasta hace unas pocas semanas ese modelo ni existía, sustituyó al "Single" de 60GHs
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they are a business, why would they lower their fees, when they don't have to ?
Because it's outrageous. I made a rough calculation the other day and I paid them THOUSANDS of € in fees in the last months, trading quite lightly and manually. But yeah, you are right. Until there is no competitor applying reasonable fees, everybody is going to charge the maximum the market allows them. That's how you run a business. |
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This video is over 2 months old.
And why would Kevin O'Leary use such a small exchange?
cavirtex is first class, deposited funds can clear in less then 10 mins. Its the best exchange for canadians So? If I have many thousands of dollars worth of buying to do, why take such a small exchange? Not only the slippage would kill you, but so would their 3% fee. the fees are 0.5% if your a market maker. 1 reason to take your fiat to smaller exchanges would be to buy up as many coins as you can , and not directly affect the mtgox priceThe fees are 0.5% only if you have already done transactions for at least 2500 BTC. You don't affect the MtGox price, but you do affect even more the local exchange price. truth is his bid will fill, and its not like he would of gotten ALOT more bitcoin if he had when through the trouble of sending to MtGox, and sending money to mtgox doesn't take 10 mins, but at cavirtex it does
First, you don't know if the bid will fill. It might, if the market goes down. One thing is certain: they can't buy at market without an insane slippage. Second, no it doesn't take 10 mins! Use E-interac like I used to? No, they stopped that. Deposit money into their RBC account... oh wait no that's closed. So, using other banks and options: Online Bill Payment ---> 3 to 5 days, Daily Limit: $10,000.00 Direct Withdraw ----> 3 to 5 days, Daily Limit: $10,000.00 Both assuming you are already verified. You could still use Cash deposit ----> Processing Time: Same day, Daily Limit: $3,000.00 But then you aren't such a big player... So yes, I'm still wondering WTH is happening there. And BTW, 0.5% fee is still outrageous. I have something in between of 0.3% and 0.36% at Gox, and I consider it very expensive (and is still quite cheaper than the "default" 0.5%). With the current BTC price and volume, Gox should lower A LOT the fees. |
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Two more weeks™.. I don't mind the lack of PSU.
Only PSU cables will not be included. Oh. Derp. Movie Scene: " OKAY, PANIC"  |
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Told them repeatedly last summer around $5, noone listened.
Ouch... out of curiosity, have any of them changed their stance after seeing what happened from last summer to now? I can answer for him: yes they did. They probably see him as a genius, wake up, he told them to buy at $5, BTC just went to $266. Been there, seen that. They are probably throwing money at him for him to buy BTC, right now. |
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Man, panic buying going on. As soon as it hits 120, I'm shorting like crazy...
 apparently manipulators want the price to keep high for a wile.. the drop will be massive. .. we might hit real bottom this time there's not enough bying power yet to turn trend imho. been watching orderbook .. the real buy power isnt there yet.. but it's definately bigger as last weeks.. even when i'm having a little loss.. i rather have moving volumes then boring trading as last weeks.. so i can correct my mistakes +1 The increase in volume is mainly due to traders scalping on higher volatility with some isolated big buys and lemmings following. The trend is still downward currently. +2 unfortunately, I don't see a bullish market now. despite some efforts It's sad that the price tends to move down... The big buys were isolated efforts from big buyers but I don't see collective push towards the 110's yet... if this week stays in the 105 range, next weekend will be devastating... "Devastating" in what sense? I would say that it will be a great weekend for those waiting in order to load the truck Devastating for the bulls. Bears are happy campers lately. I do pitty them for being late in the game though but I reckon is their time to be happy. Late as for not being able to buy sub-$1? Sub-$14? We have bears in here that bought coins at dollar parity for the first time. And precisely because they bought so cheap they are selling (because that is what bears do), taking some profits, and waiting to multiply their holdings as close as possible to the bottom. |
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Man, panic buying going on. As soon as it hits 120, I'm shorting like crazy...
apparently manipulators want the price to keep high for a wile.. the drop will be massive. .. we might hit real bottom this time there's not enough bying power yet to turn trend imho. been watching orderbook .. the real buy power isnt there yet.. but it's definately bigger as last weeks.. even when i'm having a little loss.. i rather have moving volumes then boring trading as last weeks.. so i can correct my mistakes +1 The increase in volume is mainly due to traders scalping on higher volatility with some isolated big buys and lemmings following. The trend is still downward currently. +2 unfortunately, I don't see a bullish market now. despite some efforts It's sad that the price tends to move down... The big buys were isolated efforts from big buyers but I don't see collective push towards the 110's yet... if this week stays in the 105 range, next weekend will be devastating... "Devastating" in what sense? I would say that it will be a great weekend for those waiting in order to load the truck |
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i think we can make a new high off this rally, 180 , and i think we can do it in 2 weeks time. bears, prepare to shit yourselves  Well, if we break $165, is "to the moon" indeed  |
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