Institutions have a greater interest in creating their own coin for several reasons. Not to be a coin developed in order to increase its value as much as possible but rather a coin to benefit from the technology, something like a stable coin. If an institution is really interested in investing in BTC it will certainly not be through an exchange, and there is currently no positive signal showing an opportunity.
The crypto market is too dependent on BTC
OP is talking about the development of the industry, not the development of a coin
it is even worse, cryptoindustry is centrered on bitcoin institutions haver no interest joining that crap. the western institutions will then start supporting a communist nationalsocialist regime in their countries. out of interest and the urban import dependend population will join them Well, at least we can agree on something. But what to do then? If we are where we at today we can only blame ourselves. I don't even think institutions joining the crypto industry is a good thing, if I was an institution I would not invest in cryptos (perhaps on something related to cryptos) and you too surely. i propose to build and establish our own regulated institutions Technically and in theory, it could be possible but I hardly doubt the mass population has testicles big enough to accept and endorse it. It's like dreaming about a world without famine. Democracies always fail, you will have always people shouting and it could into anarchy where everyone do what they want. we dont have to be perfect instantly, i propose this layer of engineering foundations, i am building an example. building some engineering foundations to guide the development of value sources would already be a great idea, we have to use a standardised currency for that, and i use the logo and emblem of the socio-economic source if we dont start doing that, you will see bitcoin crash, and with it entire indexed market. take tron as an example its goal was to create a value source (however an extremly difficult to realise one) and it still focused, people we have to create a standardised layer of value sources engineering foundations, to give and guide genertivity into the economy, and it will help regards
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Tolle Auswahlmöglichkeiten hier. Einmal der Spammer der nichtsnutzige Kommentare abgibt und der andere Flutet den altcoinbereich täglich mit seinen unnötigen Übersetzungen. Beide übrigens auf meiner ignore
uhom.... die einzigen kommentare die du verstehst und die dir nutzen sind "HODL" und "Shitcoin", bist deswehen auch bestimmt einer dieser erfolglosen investoren hier. ich bin pow und bitcoin bär sein über einem jahr, und wer mir folgte und short gegangen ist hatte einen haufen geld verdient, ich bin daher durchaus berechtigt, gewählt worden. ohne kritik gibts keine besserung, und ohne kritik werden die bitcoincultisten auch nie bereit sein besserungen zu liefern.
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maybe with an interactive globe as indexation to limit the asymetry? https://i.imgur.com/eSmSjaC.png![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeSmSjaC.png&t=663&c=t8_UOMc4WBuNmA) i stay with this ususally people come after month or weeks to me for a project proposal i made a while ago
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Kingscorpio, du wärst bei Twitter vieeel besser aufgehoben als hier, dort findet sich bestimmt jemand, der dir gelegentlich mal zustimmt bei deinen... ich nenne es jetzt mal schwer verharmlosend "kruden Thesen".
bloß weil du und viele andere nicht so weit denken können, mangels bildung, mangels fachwissen, mangels kombinationsfähigkeit, wie das verständnis meiner thesen erfordert, heist das noch lange nicht das sie krude sind. sie sind ziemlich richtig, sie sind krude weil du es nicht verstehst und weil sie tief durchdacht sind. kommunistisches deutschland/Frankreich/eu ist zunehmend realität, bestimmt bist du so ein dummtrottel und denkst kommunismus ist nur wenn überall rote flaggen sind und hammer und meisel, nein das ist bloß symbolik, kommunismus tritt schon was bei ganz anderem auf, nämlich bei einem kommunal herrschenden und sich rechtfertigenden bankekartel (ecb) wenn ich also sage "ihr seit kommunisten" dann ist da auch was dran, rote flage, hamer und sichel, und arbeitermärsche sind gar net notwendig. so und jetzt nochmal zum einfach verstehen: die komplette brd (geronto) demokratur, mündet in eine kommunistische gesellschaftwer sich die medien hierzulande mal aufmerksam überblickt der sieht das er sei den er ist doof. ständig gehts um grenzen, kriminelle, das communle bankenkartel, ausländer, (Brexit) wer sich kommunismus im westen gewünscht hat der ist bald bedient. und ja die afd ist ne (kommunistische) ausländerfeindliche partei, gehts auch wieder um migration grenzen, geld aus dem bankekartel etc. das sieht aber nur der, der genau hinguckt. wer denkt kommunismus ist rote flaggen und hamer+sichel symbolik wie in der ddr der ist komplett irregeleitet. also viel spaß mit eurem (verdeckt) kommunisischem parteigezanke ich mach da 100% nicht mit.
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Problem is whole concept of ICOs. 99% of them don't actually need their own token, and everything they are trying to do can be accomplished with BTC/LTC/ETH. As for the ICOs that need tokens and actually use them to their maximum potential, i guess ICO 2.0 would be better if its implemented in a way that they must have working prototype in a first place, and after that money is released on milestones where community vote whether or not money should be released. Already saw a few ICOs doing exactly that and calling themselves ICO 2.0, but I think everyone should be doing that anyway. Then again, ICOs are meant for masses, which means that regular guys don't want to wait years to profit, they want profit short-term, which could lead to frustration if development is taking a few months more than expected. If a company has a working prototype that actually does something, wouldn't it be better at this point (while market is shit) to just take project to the investors and get funding for startup the regular way ? (This is only if ICO is good, which is hard to impossible lol)
you are an idiot, you want to basically enslave everyone to those crap BTC/LTC/ETH first mover pow crap with that corrupt index of yours, how about you understand the word "decentralisation" more properly the icos want to create also money out of thin air same like satoshi did with BTC premine, whats wrong with that. currently its this corrupt index run by the bitcoin founders that basically manifests continuous success of the pow trash around bitcoin, but mark my words, this will change. its not a bear market that crushed bitcoin there will be new cryptoindexations, that will decentralise market and attention away from the corrupt coinmarketcap index run by bitcoincentrists. you want proof? email them and try to list a coin with bigger marketcapitalisation than bitcoin. because there are quite a bunch of those already in existance. last stand of bitcoins success is that still existing soft fixation on the cryptoindex of coinmarketcap, and you will not be able to hold it. people will have an interest to decentralise that and create index, that point out their interest and their interpretation of "priority" Lol, I don't have anything against other cryptos that are actually useful. Why the fuck would we need another token that does absolutely nothing ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Each exchange has its own token for for example and now I have to use their shit If I want to use their service ? Bitcoin and ETH brought something new, look at IOTA for example. Thats a good coin and I would love if people actually took time to make more useful/revolutionary stuff like that. Because of people with your mentality out of 2000 coins/tokens we have atm, 10 are actually worth something others are shitcoins and thats the sad truth that you will have to face. Do some reading/research instead of trying to make quick buck out of shitcoins and you will maybe understand what I'm talking about ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) well the usability of a token depends on its information hack and the bribery to the indexmafia, the current setting will in my oppinion crush the entire system altogether. apropo ICOs dead, CPRO isnt Death, its allive as always and it had 0% losses during Bearmarket. indexmafia is still not listening cpro because its design and stability it still more than 4 times the marketcapitalisation of ethereum and would be instantly rank2 of coinmarketcap
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das trust system hier im forum ist doch nichts als ein leckerlie system für die bitcoincentrierten gefolgshunde.
man kan negativen "trust" auch als etwas ehrenhaftes anti bitcoin pow spinnerei widerstandskämpfer interpretieren, weil so ists auch. und so seh ich mich auch.
ich sehe meinen negativen trust als einen orden den ich bekommen habe, weil ich bin nicht mit bitcoin und der cryptoindustry zufrieden und versuchs zu verbessern, was nicht leicht ist, bei den vielen fanatischen cultisten hier.
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It's very unlikely that something like this will happen with Bitcoin just for the sake of double spending, and there isn't enough hashrate available to set up such an attack. Miners, regardless of how much we dislike them, will do everything they can to keep the main network operating as healthy as possible
But the possibility is still there And while for most governments such an attack is definitely prohibitively expensive, that may not be the case for governments of leading world powers such as China or US. I wouldn't be surprised to find out one day that they actually considered and estimated the costs of carrying out this initiative. Right now it is unlikely but what if Bitcoin becomes a real danger to their financial hegemony? There should be ways of preemptive countermeasures which are to be explored in advance. Ultimately, POW is not very energy efficient, let's face it, so on-chain scaling goes straight out the window. LN solves this issue, but it also makes a lot of hash power redundant in the future. The latter basically means that the possibility of a 51 attack rises with the hashes diminishing down the road well thats all old news, the hasrate is collapsing due to price collapse, so its getting more and more likely leased pos will be future like waves. ps: your avatar is remarkable how can i get something like that
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where are the bad ass enterpreneurs looking for a good opportunity?
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STO will end up likes cryptomarket, same trash ruled by a corrupt index
People lost interest in ICOs because of scam and false promises and that is why STOs are gaining popularity. 2019 will be the year of STOs. lol STOs = recolored ICOs if you dont enslave everyone with an index like the bitcoincentristic indexation (coinmarketcap) you will not get a single STO having sustaining value I stick with my ISO, and my opposition against the corrupt global index enslavement
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there is no point increasing average wage if productivity isnt growing
The last time minimum wage increase was 2011, it was increased from N7,500 to N18,000. Price per dollar was N158/$ so it increased from ~$48 to ~$114 since then, Nigeria became the biggest income in Africa 2017 that's to show you how productivity have increased over the years. inflation usually balances out salary increases.
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Warum soll sie niemand wollen? Wie du siehst wurde vor ein paar Tagen das neue Produkt (Nano X) vorgestellt... daher wird der alte Nano S günstiger. Sehe da keinen Einbruch bei der Nachfrage ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) naja weil der bitcoinprice um 75% eingebrochen ist
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Hallo Chenille, Hallo KingScorpio, das ist prinzipiell eine interessante Diskussion. Meine Meinung ist, Marktkapitalisierung als Hauptmerkmal ist zu wenig. Evtl. wäre eine Evaluierung durch verschiedene Faktoren besser wie zum Beispiel bei coinfairvalue.com. Ich persönlich hoffe auch, dass Ripple von der Bildfläche verschwindet. Es würde aber schon reichen, wenn Ripple einfach nicht mehr als Kryptowährung deklariert wird. Das kann dann in die gleiche Kategorie wie dieses unsägliche Apple/google/Sparkassen Pay Zeugs. Auch bin ich traurig darüber, dass bei denen die Marketingmaschinen auf Hochtouren laufen und wir (die Kryptogemeinde) um jede positive Berichterstattung kämpfen müssen. Jedoch möchte ich euch beide bitten, hier auch wenigstens einen Bezug zu meinem Shop herzustellen und/oder etwas Feedback zu hinterlassen Für alle anderen Interessierten: Für die ersten 100 Leser dieses Forums gibt es einen Gutschein für Gratisversand. Nutzt den Gutscheincode: 2019LOSGEHTSBITCOINTALKja also, ich hab schon mal hier gesagt das ich deinen shop und dein unternehmertum toll finde. gerade in deutschland mit dem kaputten bankensystem ist unternehmertum gerade sehr riskant, bürokratisch und unsicher, umsomehr muss man dich da loben. du solltest aber bei der bewertung von geld das du nimmst nicht auf die korruptionsindexe setzen sondern auf, strukturen die du mit deiner arbeit unterstützt. ich zieh ne value sources engineering foundation hoch, wenn du meinen token akzeptiert, dann unterstützt du das, und nicht umweltschädliches pow mining, außerdem fließt dann nicht wie beim pfund schweizerfranken oder dem kranken außenhandelosdefiziot wieder milliarden an arbeitsleistung aus deutschland ins ausland. empfehle dir eher so zu denken, statt auf die korrupten indexe und deren mafias zu hören. ich kann auch wenn ich die ressourcen hab alles vergolden an meinem project und alles perfektionstisch machen, ich hab aber keinen fuß bei der gelddruckerpresse der amerikanischen zentralbank drin. gruß
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Fieser Exit Scam. Über die Fiat Mafia meckern und dann im Wallstreet Style die Kunden abzocken. Hoffe niemand fast auch nur 1 Ding an das dieser Herr bewirbt.
ihr seit auch alle selber schuld mit eurer dämlichkeit
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there is no way you can save pow anymore, its doomed.
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Zurzeit sind wir nicht am minen, obwohl es gerade günstig S9 Miner gäbe. In Spanien könnten wir uns gut Off grid eine Solar/Wind Kombination Anlage selber bauen. Natürlich nicht langfrstig, früher oder später werden wahrscheinlich nur noch Großfarmen existieren.
stimmt schon gut engineerte großfarmen können sehr effizent sein, weis ich das noch aus meinen eigenen berechnungen für ne 20 millionen usd investionsfarm, ich gehe aber davon aus das diese ganzen groß pow systeme wie bitcoin am abkratzen sind und keine zukunft haben, und ich bin normalerweise ziemlich richtig mit meinen vermutungen, die pos token wie waves, sind da ein bischen anders gemanaged, man kann da nicht einfach möglichst viele teile installieren und laufen lassen, man muss da ne fund basis haben. hinzu kommt noch, das die ganzen token teams sowie technischer fortschritt dazu führt das man das mining wieder dezentralisieren will weg von den großen minern hin zu den kleinen nach hause. ne gute idee ist halt diese neunotarielle sichern der encription service, reich wird man damit nicht, aber ist halt auch eine stabile einkommensquelle. sofern die encription plattformen namhafte nutzer haben.
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So many stories coming out of France about what is going on in the regions who have these protests going on. One says they will be instating martial law so to take guns out of the hands of the people. Another says there is a plan for a large group of rich parisians to withdraw all their money from institutional banks all at the same time just to prove these banks do not have enough money to produce the funds when called upon to do so. Most if not all people already know banks perform on a quarter of what is on paper in the first place so in doing this they will literally bankrupt Frances financial system and cause havoc to the European union with brexit already on the horizon. I would imagine this would be their intended plan all along with an organized run on the banks.Sort of a domino effect of the European union's economical system. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FJxd2YGn%2FBut-what-does-Bitcoin-do-among-the-yellow-vests-696x696.jpg&t=663&c=oujlL3oPxmpn8Q) struggle of french population abused by bitcoincultists for marketing just disgusting. The picture was taken sometime of december the 4th so all the talk of bitcoin being the countries saving grace was not fully in the line of focus. But it is showing the people not in the country they are looking towards other ways to put this conflict at peace. And if it is bitcoin then so be it. bitcoin is no ones saving grace, except of the bitcoin miners, the bitcoin premine holders and bitcoin holders, because all french humanist institutions can create their own cryptos, much less energywasting and you can also "invest" in them
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ach gewöhnt euch mal schön an solche sachen in eurem "kommunistisch vereinten deutschland". in frankreich wurde heute ja die redefreiheitbeschränkung und demostrationsfreiheitbeschränkung eingeführt
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mining noch immer ab leben? was ich so aus den cryptomedien höre ist das voll am krepieren und nur noch im sparsamen leased pos mining wie bei waves lohnt es sich noch das mining langfristig zu machen.
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yes. it's really getting out of hand now and places like coinmarketcap don't seem to care. ideally places like coinmarketcap wouldn't have the power they seem to have ended up with. take a look at this market on exrates which is identical to most of their others. the buy orders amount to less than $20 in total yet trades worth way more are happening every few minutes. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNfh4sTJ.png%3F1&t=663&c=nj05df4Xo8jiTQ) i'd say that volume was 100% fake. if there was a buy or sell placed by a real person for starters that market is so thin you couldn't sell $1 worth without destroying it completely. second of all their bots will simply ignore it and carry on trading around it. i can only guess they're hoping to fool real people into joining and gradually turning down their fakery, but exrates has incredibly high withdrawal fees so maybe pocketing that when people leave in disgust is their prime income. it's the same with the zero fee chinese exchanges. places like BTCC would immediately go silent when their bot turned off. Okcoin employees said they operated bots. if i were running coinmarketcap and any similar site i'd delist anywhere like this after observing for a few days. they're worthless. jes its always getting out of hand especially for the established capitalists that want the others to fall in line and submit under the established reality that makes them the billionaires. accept their proposed reality, their cryptocurrency as dominating one, or their cryptocurrencyindex as the ultimately counting one. thats whats going on, so they all are lieing. struggeling to establish them selves as dominating capitalists. coinmarketcap is extremly corrupt btw. they simply run a bitcoincentristic index and prevent at all costs that someone lists a bigger cryptocurrency with higher marketcapitalisation. regards
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So many stories coming out of France about what is going on in the regions who have these protests going on. One says they will be instating martial law so to take guns out of the hands of the people. Another says there is a plan for a large group of rich parisians to withdraw all their money from institutional banks all at the same time just to prove these banks do not have enough money to produce the funds when called upon to do so. Most if not all people already know banks perform on a quarter of what is on paper in the first place so in doing this they will literally bankrupt Frances financial system and cause havoc to the European union with brexit already on the horizon. I would imagine this would be their intended plan all along with an organized run on the banks.Sort of a domino effect of the European union's economical system. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FJxd2YGn%2FBut-what-does-Bitcoin-do-among-the-yellow-vests-696x696.jpg&t=663&c=oujlL3oPxmpn8Q) struggle of french population abused by bitcoincultists for marketing just disgusting.
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