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29021  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think its the end of Capitalism? on: July 25, 2016, 12:31:25 PM

People
Cuba was country where people couldn't see advertisements, many on the web don't want to see advertisements now.
People massively download digital goods instead of buy
Piracy social movement that wants to share instead of buy
Bitcoin movement started

Corporations
Soviet spying became a business
Bankers don't go to jail if don't pay bills
TTIP

What are your thoughts?



i dont suppose that we are in the era when the capitalism comes to its end . On the other hand, capitalism is the most powerful of all times now. because chinese economy is evolving from socialist economy to capitalist economy rapidly.  i am sure that capitalism will be running the world for long years.

This time around, capitalism is built on a gigantic banking Ponzi. Study about how Ponzi's work - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme. They always fail. Because capitalism is based on this Ponzi, it will fail with a crash.

Let's hope that when capitalism comes down, there are enough pockets of knowledge that survive so that we don't fall back into primitive societies worse than the Dark Ages.

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29022  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 25, 2016, 12:23:55 PM

What your preaching don't you see the troubles it could cause..
To put love before your own family is a problem..Only none believers can set the path to a good life..HOW..well we will love our family and friends before fairy tales making us better humans.
YES i am right
how many true stories have you heard what people have done to there own family and friends for there god like burn stone chop...

Your religions are cave men thoughts not good for humanity..


Don't you see that the things of this universe will last only for about less than 100 years for you? And this life generally, even with all its pain and troubles, is far less painful and troublesome than it might be.

Go ahead and place love of God into some other position than top position. But your reward for doing this will be a place in the burning torment of the lake of fire... burning without ever stopping.

Love of family is second. And love of others is third. Doing bad or wrong to them is not love. If I didn't warn you of your impending potential doom, it would not be love.

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That's ridiculous,  eternity is an awful long time.  What's the point in that unless your a sadistic twisted god.  Burning for eternity wouldnt teach any lessons its completely pointless.  Id give you more credit if your god had a point in the things he does,  maybe burn in hell for a week lesson learned.  You need to face it some day that your God is flawed.  Hes man made nothing more.

There are no lessons being taught in eternal destruction in the lake of fire. Teaching lessons isn't the point of eternal destruction.

Since you said "lessons," consider school. If you do a good job in school, you can go out and get a good job and make money and live a reasonable life. If you fail in school, your whole life might be a failure.

The point is, when the school of this life is done for you, you are out on the street, so to speak. You either get the good job of eternal life, or, who needs you? The lake of fire isn't about lessons. Those are over. The lake of fire is about dissolution of your eternal soul, so that God can get His energy back out of you. It's eternal because it takes eternity for your eternal soul to be completely dissolved.

God IS eternal, but He is beyond eternity as well. He'll get your parts back, purified in the lake of fire, so He can use the parts for whatever else He desires. But, they won't be you any longer.

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29023  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 25, 2016, 12:15:21 PM

Hmmmmmm might try saying this to the next girl i meet..WHAT..It's ok for gods to do this but not me...
Oh i see i have to be a MUSLIM and i can do it to my family wife none believers and gays..
Arrrr i am getting this religion stuff now so can i do anything god said as long as i love god..

There is a flaw in what you are saying here.

If you love God, you will do what He commands. You can do anything, but if you are not truly trying to do what God commands, you are not loving God. You can't fake it. God knows when you are faking it.

Either you truly attempt to do what God says, or you do not love. Your failure at being perfect when you are sincerely trying to perfectly obey God, is forgiven by God.

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29024  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 25, 2016, 12:09:17 PM

So your gods love to KILL..
Plus why does he want me to follow his rules what does god get out it if i follow him?..
Arrr i get it love he gets love..So if i don't love god he will burn me in a river of fire forever..

When God kills, it is His complete right, because He owns everything lock, stock and barrel.

God's idea isn't to kill. God's idea is to save alive. That's why He sent Jesus, the Savior.

If God allows a wicked person to die, or if He kills Him, God is really saving that wicked person from sinning more so that doesn't have to be punished more in the lake of fire throughout all eternity. So, by killing, God is really being merciful to the people He is killing.

When you look at the different parts of the creation as God created them according to Genesis 1, every time God created something, He looked at it and saw that it was good. In other words, your life and living is something good. Following God's rules is part of what keeps you alive. He wants you to stay alive because it is good for you and God for you to be alive. Not following His rules, so that you go into the lake of fire, is not good for you.

Without you following God's simple rule of salvation, He loses you, and you lose you. That's not good.

There are approximately two things that you have to do to be saved:
1. Believe that Jesus is saving you, even helping you to believe;
2. Attempt to love, God first, and people second.

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29025  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 25, 2016, 11:56:28 AM

What your preaching don't you see the troubles it could cause..
To put love before your own family is a problem..Only none believers can set the path to a good life..HOW..well we will love our family and friends before fairy tales making us better humans.
YES i am right
how many true stories have you heard what people have done to there own family and friends for there god like burn stone chop...

Your religions are cave men thoughts not good for humanity..


Don't you see that the things of this universe will last only for about less than 100 years for you? And this life generally, even with all its pain and troubles, is far less painful and troublesome than it might be.

Go ahead and place love of God into some other position than top position. But your reward for doing this will be a place in the burning torment of the lake of fire... burning without ever stopping.

Love of family is second. And love of others is third. Doing bad or wrong to them is not love. If I didn't warn you of your impending potential doom, it would not be love.

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29026  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 25, 2016, 11:49:02 AM

Well, hey. Isn't thinking, intelligence, understanding, faith, wisdom, knowledge, and a whole lot of other things that we know about, part of this universe? If you won't use the whole of your being to seek God, and then acknowledge Him when He shows Himself to you, no wonder you are heading for the Lake of fire with the rest of the corruption in this universe.

Keep on going like you are. Your choice, but only because God thought you important enough to give you the choice.

You want to choose to stay with the sinking ship? Hey, man, have at it. Enjoy the little time you have left.

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So the sinking ship as been sinking as long as this..



The sinking ship universe has been sinking almost since God made it. Somewhere within the first two weeks after creation (probably, and maybe the first day), Adam and Eve at the fruit, which started the sinking. If the mercy of God hadn't been there to make the promise of a Savior, the universe might have become the lake of fire in almost nothing flat back then.

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29027  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 25, 2016, 01:23:29 AM
New meaning for "Up Like Trump?"  

3rd woman comes forward, accusing Trump of rape & multiple attempted rapes:

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/third-woman-alleges-she-was-sexually-assaulted-donald-trump

What? We have only 3 that the Democrats have set on him? Or was it the Military, or the devoid-of-conscience Republicans?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Oh, right, the DemoCrips.

Everything is their fault.

2-party system has you totally hoodwinked.   SMH.

You have first hand knowledge of this sexual assault, then? All 3 of them? You were filming it/them?

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29028  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 25, 2016, 01:06:06 AM
People discussing about it very long time but scietists can't find any proof that God exists...but i still believe.

Actually, scientists found it way back with Newton's 3rd Law, if they didn't find it before. This doesn't mean that they have to accept it, or say anything about it.

Complex universe and entropy made their discovery back then to be valid. But you don't really need scientific proof to see God in nature.

Trouble is, the details about God's attributes are difficult to see in science. Even nature only shows that God is favorably inclined towards mankind, even when people are against Him. To see the details, you need the Bible.

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29029  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 25, 2016, 01:00:37 AM
New meaning for "Up Like Trump?"  

3rd woman comes forward, accusing Trump of rape & multiple attempted rapes:

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/third-woman-alleges-she-was-sexually-assaulted-donald-trump

What? We have only 3 that the Democrats have set on him? Or was it the Military, or the devoid-of-conscience Republicans?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
29030  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 25, 2016, 12:56:25 AM
Now if god is the key to science then name 1 invention that's in the BIBLE ?

Only the biggest, most important invention. Eternal life.

The second is the New Universe that God will be creating for us to spend our wonderful eternal life in.

The third is the lake of fire, which will consume this corrupted universe and all who won't follow God, so that there will be corruption no longer.

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WOW Cheesy Eternal life.. How do you know this ?

New Universe that God will be creating for us..How can god do this if he cannot cure dying children
war poverty..
Very strange god you have. Can create a universe but cannot..Well i leave the rest to everyone's imagination..
Sorry. It has taken me this long to understand how weak of mind you are. I apologize for this. I place it out there for you to see, and you gloss right over it.

God IS healing not only the children who want to be healed, but the adults, as well. How is He doing this? As I said. Eternal life. Right there for you to see and read.

And where is God making the eternal life to be? Right there in the New Universe He is creating.



The third is the lake of fire, which will consume this corrupted universe Shocked Shocked..
Not very nice your god i only smoke weed and have a bet..
And is that it a lake of fire..No thunder no wind or nothing..Not very good your god is he..
Lakes of fire seen loads of them lakes of fire after a volcano..

No wonder he no good at science he never invented anything in the bible..
He must of had one of those magic wands everybody had in the stone age..
Yer everyone had one to move and cut rocks how else did we build all these ancient buildings..
WITH A MAGIC WAND...

Also 2 or 3 pages back you were saying that we humans haven't invented much BUT now you say this....Consider all the scientific advancements made...So now you admit we have progressed in
science and technology...
MAKE YOUR MIND UP..Religious people always contradicting them selves as always Cheesy Cheesy..

And this is why religion should be kept out of politics and law..
Say one thing and mean another Grin just like a politician...

You quoted..It is NOT a fact that people are surviving better and longer. And we can all see from your posts that people are becoming stupider..
So you call your own god stupid after all he is or as invented eternal life  Grin Grin
TUT TUT TUT..So looks like your burning with us Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Well, hey. Isn't thinking, intelligence, understanding, faith, wisdom, knowledge, and a whole lot of other things that we know about, part of this universe? If you won't use the whole of your being to seek God, and then acknowledge Him when He shows Himself to you, no wonder you are heading for the Lake of fire with the rest of the corruption in this universe.

Keep on going like you are. Your choice, but only because God thought you important enough to give you the choice.

You want to choose to stay with the sinking ship? Hey, man, have at it. Enjoy the little time you have left.

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29031  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 24, 2016, 11:28:14 PM
In the past they all had MAGIC WANDS ... Zap anything there minds wanted they got Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
This BITCOIN TALK THREAD as become like the TWILIGHT ZONE Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

Science is the key to life Grin Grin.And lots and lots more to discover  Grin..
Sometimes i wonder if this thread are all 8 year old children..

The science religion politics all seem to be all talked by 8 year old's with no clue as to how the real world works...Not everyone by the way Grin BUT enough to make me think this world is
FUCKING CRAZY Smiley..

Science absolutely is the key to life. But it isn't the science that scientists talk about which is this key.

Consider all the scientific advancements made. Yet, if we live any longer on average than the people of the past, it is very little longer. In fact, there are 3 or 4 places on earth where people naturally live longer than our scientifically advanced peoples of North America and Europe. Two of these are the Hunzas of the Himalayas, and the people of the Vilcabamba area in Ecuador.

The big question is, why is science the key to life? The answer is that God holds everything in place so that it operates according to the science He created. Even the devil who is recorded in the Revelation in the Bible to have swept a third of the stars out of the sky (essentially destroying a third of the physics of the universe, thinking that thereby he would crash God's universe), was held at bay by the strength of God through Jesus, and the salvation Jesus wrought on the cross. Jesus upholds the universe and the scientific laws in the face of there being no reason for them to be upheld.

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Now if god is the key to science then name 1 invention that's in the BIBLE ?

Only the biggest, most important invention. Eternal life.

The second is the New Universe that God will be creating for us to spend our wonderful eternal life in.

The third is the lake of fire, which will consume this corrupted universe and all who won't follow God, so that there will be corruption no longer.

Cool
29032  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 24, 2016, 11:02:26 PM
Well known is the fact that as a result of natural selection survived strong tion follows, however, there are many examples where survive is not the most Sauveur Weighted body.  examples: fungi, shark, crayfish, and mosses - these op-organisms  ables over a long period  of time.

There isn't anything like natural selection. The idea of natural selection is unproven. Probability mathematics shows that it couldn't have happened - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0. And there isn't any evidence that is stronger than cause and effect as the reason for the thing that some people call natural selection.

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29033  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 24, 2016, 10:59:08 PM
i think the concept of God is present everywhere. i have also a strong believe on Allah. He is present is the creator of us all.

The word "Allah" is not English. Can you translate, please?

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Allah

Then why don't these jokers say God instead of Allah? I mean, they translate the rest of their Arabic stuff into English. Why not Allah? Why doesn't satdas simply write what he says in Arabic if he isn't going to translate the whole thing? And they all do that.

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29034  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 24, 2016, 10:48:04 PM
In the past they all had MAGIC WANDS ... Zap anything there minds wanted they got Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
This BITCOIN TALK THREAD as become like the TWILIGHT ZONE Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

Science is the key to life Grin Grin.And lots and lots more to discover  Grin..
Sometimes i wonder if this thread are all 8 year old children..

The science religion politics all seem to be all talked by 8 year old's with no clue as to how the real world works...Not everyone by the way Grin BUT enough to make me think this world is
FUCKING CRAZY Smiley..

Science absolutely is the key to life. But it isn't the science that scientists talk about which is this key.

Consider all the scientific advancements made. Yet, if we live any longer on average than the people of the past, it is very little longer. In fact, there are 3 or 4 places on earth where people naturally live longer than our scientifically advanced peoples of North America and Europe. Two of these are the Hunzas of the Himalayas, and the people of the Vilcabamba area in Ecuador.

The big question is, why is science the key to life? The answer is that God holds everything in place so that it operates according to the science He created. Even the devil who is recorded in the Revelation in the Bible to have swept a third of the stars out of the sky (essentially destroying a third of the physics of the universe, thinking that thereby he would crash God's universe), was held at bay by the strength of God through Jesus, and the salvation Jesus wrought on the cross. Jesus upholds the universe and the scientific laws in the face of there being no reason for them to be upheld.

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29035  Other / Politics & Society / The Real Story Behind The Turkish Coup on: July 24, 2016, 10:23:25 PM
The Real Story Behind The Turkish Coup





September 1961. Geneva, Switzerland. A Turkish classmate of mine named Turgut burst into my room, crying, 'those bastards just hanged my father!'

The 'bastards' in question were Turkey's generals. They had  overthrown the civilian government of Adnan Menderes and hanged my friend's father. Since, then, the mighty Turkish armed forces has tried to overthrow the government about every ten years.

Last weekend's military coup in Turkey was the fifth coup since the 1960's. Many had believed the mighty, 610,000-man Turkish armed forces, backed by 379,000 trained reserves, NATO's second largest  forces after the US, had finally been driven back to its barracks by the popular democratic AK party government of  President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

So it seemed until last Friday when tanks seized the two Bosphorus bridges in Istanbul, and attacks were staged against key targets, like TV stations, the intelligence HQ, and government buildings. Five very senior generals and 25 colonels were reportedly at the core of the uprising.

A special commando team was sent to capture or, more likely, kill President Erdogan who was vacationing at the seaside resort, Marmaris. He managed to escape minutes before the plotters struck. A number of his bodyguards were killed. Erdogan boarded a small plane and flew to Istanbul as two rebel F-16 jets were hunting his black-out aircraft. The president  and his military loyalists rallied troops and the air force. It was all eerily similar to the 1991 coup attempt on the vacationing Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, by hardline Communists.

Turkey and its predecessor, the Ottoman Empire, have been vexed by military meddling and plots since the 1600's, notably by the elite military corps, the Janissaries.

Today's Janissary are the modern Turkish armed forces. They have long been joined at the hip with the Pentagon. Like Latin America's generals, Turkey's pashas (generals) were far to the right, hidebound, and reliant on US finance and arms. Turkey's pashas were also virulently anti-Muslim. They regarded Islam as backwards and a threat to the secular oligarchy that long ruled Turkey under successive military juntas.

The coup leaders believed they would have popular support. Far from it, throngs of Turks poured into the streets supporting Erdogan's AK party and calling the insurgents traitors. Five Turks were run over by tanks after they sought to stop the rebel armor with their bodies.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/eric-margolis/real-story-behind-coup/.


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29036  Other / Politics & Society / Trump Enrages the War Party on: July 24, 2016, 10:16:13 PM
Trump Enrages the War Party





This election season is so much fun because Donald Trump keeps enraging all the right people – and his timing is perfect. Just as the Republican convention was at its height, with his running mate up there on the podium perorating about the alleged threat of Vladimir Putin, along comes Donald with an interview in the New York Times that has the War Party yelling and screaming bloody murder. The head of NATO; the foreign policy pundits; even some alleged "non-interventionists" – they're all aghast that Trump is questioning the supposedly sacred tripwires that commit us to going to war if Lower Slobbovia invades Upper Slobbovia.

It started with this article, in which Trump's views on NATO, the Turkey coup, and other matters were summarized, but it caused such a commotion that the Times published the entire interview, and it is really a sight to see – good news for us anti-interventionists, and very bad news for the internationalists, i.e. the entire foreign policy Establishment.

It starts off with Times reporter David Sanger trying to bait him into attacking Paul Ryan, who, he says, "presented a much more traditional Republican, engaged internationalist view of the world." Sanger reminds him of his previous comments on NATO: that our shiftless "allies" need to start paying their fair share of the costs of the alliance. Sanger adds in Korea and Japan, and ask: what if they won't pay? What then?

Trump's answer is vintage Trump:  "Then yes, I would be absolutely prepared to tell those countries, 'Congratulations, you will be defending yourself.'"

He is challenged by Sanger – who asks most of the questions, by the way – who avers that our system of alliances is in our interests as well, because of "trade."


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/justin-raimondo/trump-enrages-war-party/.


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29037  Other / Politics & Society / We Have a "Duty" to Submit; They Have No Duty to Protect on: July 24, 2016, 10:10:39 PM
We Have a "Duty" to Submit;
They Have No Duty to Protect
by Will Grigg






"Somebody is going to die tonight," a visibly agitated Anthony Lord told a close friend on July 16, 2015. Lord, a resident of Benedicta, Maine, was a registered sex offender who displayed symptoms of violent derangement. His anger had been kindled by a voice mail message from the Maine State Police reporting that a woman named Brittany Irish had accused him of sexually assaulting her, and asking him to visit a local barracks to be interviewed about the matter.

Lord's entirely plausible threat was reported to Jaime Irish, Brittany's brother. His frantic phone call to Brittany interrupted a conversation in her home with two Maine state troopers. They were discussing both Irish's sexual assault complaint and her report that the barn at her parents' home had been set on fire – most likely by Lord, who knew the family well.

Brittany's initial relief at the presence of two officers sworn to "serve and protect" she was quickly transmuted into incredulity when the troopers refused a request to deploy officers to watch her and her two small children (who were visiting relatives at another location). Protecting a rape victim and her family against a credible murder threat from an assailant who was also suspected of carrying out a retaliatory arson attack was not a priority worthy of the man-hours it would entail.

Frantically grasping for whatever reassurance they could get, Brittany and her mother, Kimberly, asked if the police could leave a marked vehicle parked outside the home as a bluff. Even that was seen as an unacceptable expenditure of precious department resources that could be used for more important undertakings, such as traffic enforcement. Indifferently assuring Brittany that they would "keep an eye on the situation," the troopers drove away.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/william-norman-grigg/duty-submit/.


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29038  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meet Karl Lentz on: July 24, 2016, 10:00:46 PM
Karl Lentz 438 - Getting complainants to appear for your claim, IRS gets tough, offer to forgive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUhMwa-HbDs



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29039  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 24, 2016, 09:55:30 PM
i think the concept of God is present everywhere. i have also a strong believe on Allah. He is present is the creator of us all.

The word "Allah" is not English. Can you translate, please?

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29040  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 24, 2016, 09:49:32 PM
The bible clearly stated that in the time of Noah and even after, there were giants (hybrids formed from women and demons).

These giants - of course being strong -  could have done all those things that we need machines for nowadays.

Yes only we've never found the remains of these giants,  there s more likelihood that we where using jcbs to do all the work back then.  Probably the more realistic idea to be honest.



You can't find the remains of something that has died more than 3000 years ago unless it was buried in ice. They are not dinosaurs you know.

But Wikipedia says you can go back several billion years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil. Of course, the dating methods are arbitrary figures, and the dates that have been set are just guesses. But they do say it.

When you consider that there might not have been any C-14 in the atmosphere prior to about 4,500 years ago, the ages might be over by billions of years.

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There were actually BBC documentaries about giants existing millions of years and that they've found fossils of them but then seized by government authorities and cover it up. This actually make sense if you don't want people to ask more questions about the giants, and if more and more people get to prove they are real then history must all be rewritten again.  Isn't Goliath  just one proof?

Goliath is a fictional character though, and even if hes based loosely on a real person he might not have even been that tall. The bible is well known of its exagerated stories but the facts are that back in those days the average person was much shorter than they are today so goliath might have been a giant in those days but simply a tall person if we saw him nowadays . Also why would every government hide the fact that giants used to exist ?  Its of no advantage to them if people knew or not so its not some big cover up.

Except for one minor detail. The idea that the Bible is full of exaggerations is a lie.

Isaiah in the The Dead Sea Scrolls from around 2,400 years ago, is almost exactly the same as the last of the Hebrew copies done by scribes recently. This shows that the Hebrew people were very particular about copying the Bible accurately down through the ages.

Add to that the fact that the Bible itself says that the Hebrew people were to execute false prophets. This shows that there was accuracy maintained in the Bible, because if the scribes messed it up, they would be punished or executed themselves for falsifying a prophet. Copies weren't made by only one or two scribes. Many scribes copied the Bible so the people could see the accuracy.

Now that we have the accuracy of the Bible settled, the Biblical Age of the Earth website (http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm), coupled with info from the Old Testament, shows us that Goliath lived around 3,100 years ago. The accuracy of the Hebrew people told the truth about the size of Goliath... truth written in the Bible.

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Alright lets see.

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The camels were without number as the sand of the sea.
- Judges 7:12

Thats a lot of camels.

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Their slain shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcasses, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.
- Isaiah 34:3

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In one plague with which the Lord smote Egypt “all the cattle of Egypt died.” But a few days after that, “all the firstborn cattle died.”
- Exodus 9:6 & 12:29

This one doesnt even make sense

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I saw a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great. The tree grew, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth.
- Daniel 4:10-11

I could list many more of these . Just because the bible was supposedly accurately copied doesnt mean its not exaggerated, Besides its been altered many times from day 1 until now.


Funny these people discredit the bible when even the NASA take a look at it for references.
The book is thousands of years old, its been written by the witnesses of how the world turned out during bronze age. WARS of countries like Palestine are even written there. when Jesus mentioned about giving back what belongs to agustus, they give back what belongs to the government of agustus ceasar.  And only years ago a news break that an archeologist found a coin with the name Agustus Ceasar.

I hope you realise the whole missing day thing with nasa was a hoax, Also you say witnesses wrote the bible, this means nothing. I dont know if your aware about the percentage of humans that are absolute liars. Unfortunately i know many and they cant help themselves but lie about everyday things yet you put your faith in these witnesses to tell the truth. If youve read the bible then surely your not naive enough to take what it says as fact.

You will find, if you study the O.T. in the context of when and to whom it was directly written, that there is much symbolism and idiomatic speech throughout it. In addition, many of the things that we would consider impossible actually happened, because we aren't looking at all of the things that went on, and are not understanding the power of God.

An example of this is idiomatic sayings in English. Consider http://www.smart-words.org/quotes-sayings/idioms-meaning.html:
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Idiom: a manner of speaking that is natural to native speakers of a language

Every language has its own collection of wise sayings. They offer advice about how to live and also transfer some underlying ideas, principles and values of a given culture / society. These sayings are called "idioms" - or proverbs if they are longer. These combinations of words have (rarely complete sentences) a "figurative meaning" meaning, they basically work with "pictures".

This List of commonly used idioms and sayings (in everyday conversational English), can help to speak English by learning English idiomatic expressions. This is a list, which contains exactly 66 of the most commonly used idioms and their meaning.
Go to this website and look at the list of idiomatic sayings that are common among us, but that most of us would never take literally. These sayings often came out of happenings that we would never dream would produce a saying like the one they produced.

In the Bible, the majority of idiomatic-like sayings are things that the people back then would have understood as such. Why? In part, because they were a very practical people, and such sayings would have brought great impetus to something that really happened, while they would have immediately recognized the saying to be for that purpose only.

In other words, you don't know what you are talking about when you try to take things literally that are not meant to be taken literally. The Bible, itself, prefaces the literal and the figurative with wording that shows that it is literal or figurative.

For example. Regarding Daniel 4:10,11, it seems that you have intentionally quoted it in Old English, in ways that we don't understand the English anymore, and completely outside of the scope and context in which it was written. Read it in modern English:
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10 These are the visions I saw while lying in my bed: I looked, and there before me stood a tree in the middle of the land. Its height was enormous.

11 The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth.
Didn't you ever have a dream that you didn't understand?

Study the O.T. and the linguistics and history of the people of Israel before you make goofy statements like you have made about the Bible.

Regarding NASA, one of their biggest lies is that Big Bang is truth. Yet, they DO have much truth among the things that they do. The missing day thing isn't a NASA thing. It is a general astronomy thing, and it is real. NASA simply adopted it.

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