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29021  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitfinex WEBSITE BACK TO LIFE on: August 08, 2016, 10:46:17 PM
To me it sounds like an exchange that answers to no one decided to just steal 30%+ of it's customers deposits and replace it with a made up garbage coin and an iou. Likely no hack ever occurred for real.

Nice, no regulation you say, now you pay for it! Bitcoin has it's flaws, huge one's and this a perfect example. You either want regulation or you don't but you cannot have your way and feel the gov. or authorities owe you something as well.





How is that a flaw in Bitcoin?



If you want to spend a btc most of the time you need to turn it into cash.  You need an exchange .

And btc won't fork to stop a big theft.

So even if you keep a hundred coins on your safe client every exchange to cash involves a risk.

And that is completely to fault of btc. Since as shown by eth and etc a large theft can be stopped.
29022  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [40+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,FR,NL on: August 08, 2016, 09:31:42 PM
Just a little bit of a push..

 Say  5 in eight hours  and we could be all green again.


29023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How can I setup a 1G/hs ETH Mining Rig on: August 08, 2016, 09:27:22 PM
I have a personal bias  that he should get the r9 390's

I listed my last four right here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1579698.msg15861561#msg15861561


he could pick these up  for the build.
29024  Economy / Computer hardware / Sold... Selling some r9 390's xfx. Sold on: August 08, 2016, 09:12:00 PM
I have a few used ones for sale. 4 to be exact

Switching to rx 480's and rx 470's

they are around 300 new
https://www.amazon.com/XFX-PCI-Express-Video-Card-R9-390P-8DF6/dp/B00ZCBDUXQ/ref=sr_1_3? 300

http://www.frys.com/product/8532799?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG   280 in store only
Shipping to all 50 states.

  Best offers over 215 a card work.
I will give a discount if you want two three or four.

I will post a photo in a bit.  

 these are about  3 weeks 5 weeks and 9 weeks old  all work well
fourth one is hard to get to for a photo, but I have a fourth one.



29025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I want a dedicated ETC miner on: August 08, 2016, 08:31:07 PM
Build a diy pc with six r9 390 gpus.

There are a lot of builds on this site.

Since you have low power cost. The r9 390. Works for you.

I will build a PC myself. I will search a build guide that supports six Radeon R9 390X cards. In order to build the PC, I will follow the build guide on BCT. And I can put my HDD into the PC or even have internet connection. I hope I got it right and I thank you for your suggestion!

I think I can do it as described now but since there are several build guides for different number of GPUs, where does the magical number six comes from? Also, what does make Radeon R9 390X make different ( the optimal for my purpose ) than other GPUs?

no r9 390x are no better then r9 390

Here are some threads on rigs
6 card rigs are the biggest on 1 mobo

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1470700.msg14831823#msg14831823
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1557815.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1537175.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1527661.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1511844.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523048.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1473510.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1498424.0
29026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I want a dedicated ETC miner on: August 08, 2016, 06:33:43 PM
Hello!

I am looking for a dedicated external hardware for ETC mining. By writing external I meant a device that I do not have to leave connected to my local computer to work ( excluding initial setup ) and does not use my computer's resources. For instance, it could have an own HDD or net connection to store data. I am looking for such a device because all my local computers are usually in use and I want to seperate ETC mining from my other jobs.

I have access to free energy and I am able to run the miner 24/7.

I have only two expectations and these expections are: the miner must not use up more than 2299 W and must have an expected price return within a fair amount of time.

What is your suggestion?

Build a diy pc with six r9 390 gpus.

There are a lot of builds on this site.

Since you have low power cost. The r9 390. Works for you.
29027  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: August 08, 2016, 01:35:41 PM
Does anyone know when Bitmain will be releasing new batches of the S9?  It has been about a month since they ran out.  Does anyone know what is going on?

Thanks!


I think he should be here soon with the new model.

S9 is dead for me.

Last week stopped working 2 x S9 miners center boards.  One from 650 model and one from 550 model. It was in the most cool place. The chips temperature was never above 95 degrees Celsius. At first, only xxxxxxxx After  restart board completely disappeared. This is not normal.

From 21 miners are three with broken boards.  This is too much.

I paid a total  for sending 3x S9 boards to  warranty  about 210 euro.

Batch 1 miner's warranty will be over soon .  What happens next ? How much does a repair charge after warranty ?

If Bitmain does not change its warranty policy, then I will not buy more S9.

Why do I have to pay for sending the miner parts, when it arrived with D.O.A. board ?

Why it took 45 days for  repair and  shipping one board?

Finally, they never sent me back  my board. I got back board with another serial number, and other design.

I have the five running all downclocked they are all at 550.  Two were rated for 650 the other three were rated for freq 600.

So far I have been okay.  I think current is a big issue so down clock of freq may be the way to go.
29028  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Two hacks and two approaches - is Bitcoin is looking better than Ethereum? on: August 08, 2016, 11:21:08 AM
Bitcoin  has shown  they will help exchanges steal money.

Eth-Etc has shown  they will make an effort to  prevent a major theft or exploit.



Bitcoin does not scale it does 300,000  transactions per day on average  max is just under 700,000.

Thus off chain deals are needed to move the coin.

What are off chain deals  moves on exchanges like Bitfinex


What happens when a necessary  exchange gets hacked for its bitcoins.  Thats right Bitcoin helps them to steal it.

If anyone thinks  Bitcoin won out  in the Eth-Etc fork   they are sadly mistaken.

As a complete side bar.   If I mine ETH-ETC  I use real pc's with real warrantees.  If I mine BTC  I use asics from companies that refuse to honor them.

Go watch the Movie  "The Big Short"     the guy sees the housing bubble and bets on it.


I see a real problem for BTC  this year.

I made a move  I spilt my mining  ½ ETC-ETH   ½ BTC

29029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 480 Best driver for ETH mining ? (Windows) on: August 08, 2016, 11:06:18 AM
I'm doing 131 mh/s with 5 Xfx RX 480, drawing 800 watt from wall, pretty sure i can make it do better.

Fan at 70 % and temp is around 68 on all cards. Mem clock ar 2125

Crimson 16.7.3

But 16.7.3 has a 2050 mem clock limit!?

Don't know if it's related to XFX my card is overclocked.


I have one of them and it allows higher settings then other rx 480's
29030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How can I setup a 1G/hs ETH Mining Rig on: August 08, 2016, 03:41:43 AM


I would build 11 rigs with four cards each.

I would use the biostar z170 mobo.

I like this build as it seems to be very stable. No risers.

This build is about 1500 so 11 x 1500 = 16500 to be at 1050 mh.

Or you could get 35 r9 390's for six card riser builds .

You would be at 11000 a plus for this is the r9 390 is easy to find.

The rx 470 or 480 is hard to find.

You said you have free power so the r9 390 may be what you should do
29031  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S9 with chips appear as XXXXX on: August 08, 2016, 02:27:30 AM
Folks,

I have owned S1's, S3's, S5's, S7's, and now an S9. S9 is the first miner that I have so frequently seen chips turn xxxxx in some weird situations.

In my experience, it seemed to relate to either an unexpected connectivity disruption, or pool issues. However, all the previous miners could handle these situations without letting the chips fail to function. I am still unable to summarize the scenario that could make S9 chips become xxxx. Every time this happens, I have to reboot it to recover the chips.

What's even worse, is I have noticed it could start with a few chips become xxxx randomly on one or more boards, then it soon (within a minute or two) would spread to the entire row (board), then after a while, a second board could die, then another while, your last board.

The most annoying thing is S9 does not indicate such state to me. Like an S5, it beeped the hell out of me if network drops. this S9 would just quietly suicide without even lowering the fan speed.

Have you experience such situations and if so, what are your observations and thoughts?

Thanks for sharing.

first question.  your psu is?
second question your freq is ?

xxxx   many times is a show that the psu is running out of gas.

reduce freq a bit  say 600 to 550

More questions  do you set the fans to 80% or 85% or 90%?
or are you an auto guy?

another question  how how is it?
in the room and on the pcb and on the chips.

if the room is 90f or more  even if the pcb and the chips read 60c 90c

the psu may struggle.  here is why  most psus lose gas at 40 to 50c

so a 90 f room is more likely to get the psu too warm.

try to down clock freq from 600 to 550 or from 600 to 575
29032  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Monotheism is Evil, separating the human race on: August 08, 2016, 02:04:39 AM
Like it or not people are killers. Been killing since the caveman times and will keep it up for a while longer.

Religion of any shape or form is not why we are killers since we were killers long before  any religion was around.

We are also shitters pissers and  eaters .

We can't stay alive without killing.  Yeah that is correct  whether we kill a plant or an animal to eat.
Or a white blood cell kills off a germ.  All that is killing.

Religion or rules of behavior were designed to limit the killing so as not to destroy our selves with too much killing.
29033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Prebuilt or off the shelf setups for GPU Mining? on: August 08, 2016, 01:39:13 AM

i am on a tablet  so click and drag link is not happening, but i have a long thread in this section.

i have a four card build the rx 480 solid just works no risers i use the newegg site to order the biostar z 170 mobo.

i reviewed the mobo on newegg website under philip a i gave it a very good review

That is a nice Motherboard it looks like, they don't get too hot close together?
What card model do you use?
I have a 390X and a 290X next to each other, 1.5 slot of space, and it increased heat for the 390X by around 20%
Fans on it are at 85% and it's hot enough I can't overclock it so it's going about as fast as the 290X lol.


you have to use rx 480 on that four card build.
29034  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex HACKED - funds stolen ! on: August 08, 2016, 01:36:25 AM
Looks like a win for ETH_ETC  and a loss for BTC.


Lets see  60 million in BTC stolen and BTC blockchains  helps thief steal it .


ETH  has a 120 million dollar loss and developers find a way to fix it and create a second gpu coin to mine in ETC.


win win for ETC_ETH


loss for BTC

BTC  has to solve its scaling issues  right now exchanges are how BTC becomes liquid  since it can't  do more then 700,000 transactions on a perfect day on the blockchain.

Allowing  exchanges to 'Steal' BTC  or hackers to 'Steal'  BTC over and over and over and over and over and over  is not going to work.

I suffered no loss with the ETC_ETH fork
I suffered a 240 of 720 usd loss with   the bitfinex hack.

ETH developers  saved the day
BTC developers will allow the coins to be mixed away  and won't increase the transaction cap in effect on BTC  which is forcing off chain trades with crooked or incompetent  exchanges.


Not good  for a heavy hitter with big cash. 
29035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 480 Best driver for ETH mining ? (Windows) on: August 08, 2016, 12:19:27 AM
What version of Crimson are you using? Would love to have the full settings Cryptozillah.



he has to be using 16.7.2  as 16.7.3 limits  ram clock  to 2050 / 8200

to get the 27mh  ram clock has to be at 2200/8800 to 2250/9000

some cards crash over 2200 some go to 2250.
29036  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Suppose you had 5 MW of energy at your disposal. on: August 07, 2016, 09:39:07 PM


What are the various ways, other than just mining for profit, does a operation such as this with these resources make money?

Working on a business plan and wondering what I may be missing.

Regards

well  at what price per kwatt?

and what state or what country?

plus what kind of building.

29037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 480 Best driver for ETH mining ? (Windows) on: August 07, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
yeah thats about as good as it gets.   worst case drop to 2200 vs 2250  and set at -22 vs -25 if it is not stable.


Getting there Smiley

990w at the wall. Will let this run for a day and see if it is stable.
29038  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 2 to Aug 16. Picks are yet to start. prize =0.00 on: August 07, 2016, 06:11:39 PM
02.08.2016 18:50   423360
07.08.2016 07:32   424092


732blocks   diff: 12.24%   Difficulty : 226599240387

still over 10%






It may have slipped back to 10%
29039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Which is more profitable? on: August 07, 2016, 04:02:32 PM
The price of bitcoins at present is ~$600.

What do you think: Is it more profitable to mine a viable altcoin ( ETC, XMR...) and then exchange them for bitcoins or invest in an S9 and mine bitcoins?

this may be moved from btc to alt coin.

I suggest both but with a lot of caveats .

An s-9 costs about 1800 to 2000 to be fully set up

A solid 4 card 100mh eth card build is about 1500

  I have a four card build it does about 97mh and pulls about 600 watts.



 right now it is better then an s-9  but shit happens in crypto coin

so one of each is okay to do as you are more diverse that way



many ways to do builds.
here is an open case 4 card build does about 96 mh to 101 mh power used about 600 watts
this was about

4 x 250= 1000 for the cards
1 x 130=   130 for the psu
1 x   80=    80 for the m2 ssd
1 x 130=   130 for the mobo
2 x  35 =    70 for the  ram
1 x ?   =     ? for windows 7 pro
1 x 40 =    40 for open case mount
1 x 150=   150 for cpu

total cost = 1600
my thread with a lot of info

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.0

 you may not need a lot to start as you may have gear in your house





the rigs stats at the pool



29040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 480 Best driver for ETH mining ? (Windows) on: August 07, 2016, 03:10:27 PM
good  250 watts saved is good start .

next try to bump the ram up say to 2080 for each card .

you should get more like 25.5 mh or 26.1 with 2080 for ram.

and power in watts should stay about the same.

do one card at a time.  if mh  on the card drops to say 22 then move the power for that to -20
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