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29041  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 24, 2016, 09:55:30 PM
i think the concept of God is present everywhere. i have also a strong believe on Allah. He is present is the creator of us all.

The word "Allah" is not English. Can you translate, please?

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29042  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 24, 2016, 09:49:32 PM
The bible clearly stated that in the time of Noah and even after, there were giants (hybrids formed from women and demons).

These giants - of course being strong -  could have done all those things that we need machines for nowadays.

Yes only we've never found the remains of these giants,  there s more likelihood that we where using jcbs to do all the work back then.  Probably the more realistic idea to be honest.



You can't find the remains of something that has died more than 3000 years ago unless it was buried in ice. They are not dinosaurs you know.

But Wikipedia says you can go back several billion years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil. Of course, the dating methods are arbitrary figures, and the dates that have been set are just guesses. But they do say it.

When you consider that there might not have been any C-14 in the atmosphere prior to about 4,500 years ago, the ages might be over by billions of years.

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There were actually BBC documentaries about giants existing millions of years and that they've found fossils of them but then seized by government authorities and cover it up. This actually make sense if you don't want people to ask more questions about the giants, and if more and more people get to prove they are real then history must all be rewritten again.  Isn't Goliath  just one proof?

Goliath is a fictional character though, and even if hes based loosely on a real person he might not have even been that tall. The bible is well known of its exagerated stories but the facts are that back in those days the average person was much shorter than they are today so goliath might have been a giant in those days but simply a tall person if we saw him nowadays . Also why would every government hide the fact that giants used to exist ?  Its of no advantage to them if people knew or not so its not some big cover up.

Except for one minor detail. The idea that the Bible is full of exaggerations is a lie.

Isaiah in the The Dead Sea Scrolls from around 2,400 years ago, is almost exactly the same as the last of the Hebrew copies done by scribes recently. This shows that the Hebrew people were very particular about copying the Bible accurately down through the ages.

Add to that the fact that the Bible itself says that the Hebrew people were to execute false prophets. This shows that there was accuracy maintained in the Bible, because if the scribes messed it up, they would be punished or executed themselves for falsifying a prophet. Copies weren't made by only one or two scribes. Many scribes copied the Bible so the people could see the accuracy.

Now that we have the accuracy of the Bible settled, the Biblical Age of the Earth website (http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm), coupled with info from the Old Testament, shows us that Goliath lived around 3,100 years ago. The accuracy of the Hebrew people told the truth about the size of Goliath... truth written in the Bible.

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Alright lets see.

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The camels were without number as the sand of the sea.
- Judges 7:12

Thats a lot of camels.

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Their slain shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcasses, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.
- Isaiah 34:3

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In one plague with which the Lord smote Egypt “all the cattle of Egypt died.” But a few days after that, “all the firstborn cattle died.”
- Exodus 9:6 & 12:29

This one doesnt even make sense

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I saw a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great. The tree grew, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth.
- Daniel 4:10-11

I could list many more of these . Just because the bible was supposedly accurately copied doesnt mean its not exaggerated, Besides its been altered many times from day 1 until now.


Funny these people discredit the bible when even the NASA take a look at it for references.
The book is thousands of years old, its been written by the witnesses of how the world turned out during bronze age. WARS of countries like Palestine are even written there. when Jesus mentioned about giving back what belongs to agustus, they give back what belongs to the government of agustus ceasar.  And only years ago a news break that an archeologist found a coin with the name Agustus Ceasar.

I hope you realise the whole missing day thing with nasa was a hoax, Also you say witnesses wrote the bible, this means nothing. I dont know if your aware about the percentage of humans that are absolute liars. Unfortunately i know many and they cant help themselves but lie about everyday things yet you put your faith in these witnesses to tell the truth. If youve read the bible then surely your not naive enough to take what it says as fact.

You will find, if you study the O.T. in the context of when and to whom it was directly written, that there is much symbolism and idiomatic speech throughout it. In addition, many of the things that we would consider impossible actually happened, because we aren't looking at all of the things that went on, and are not understanding the power of God.

An example of this is idiomatic sayings in English. Consider http://www.smart-words.org/quotes-sayings/idioms-meaning.html:
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Idiom: a manner of speaking that is natural to native speakers of a language

Every language has its own collection of wise sayings. They offer advice about how to live and also transfer some underlying ideas, principles and values of a given culture / society. These sayings are called "idioms" - or proverbs if they are longer. These combinations of words have (rarely complete sentences) a "figurative meaning" meaning, they basically work with "pictures".

This List of commonly used idioms and sayings (in everyday conversational English), can help to speak English by learning English idiomatic expressions. This is a list, which contains exactly 66 of the most commonly used idioms and their meaning.
Go to this website and look at the list of idiomatic sayings that are common among us, but that most of us would never take literally. These sayings often came out of happenings that we would never dream would produce a saying like the one they produced.

In the Bible, the majority of idiomatic-like sayings are things that the people back then would have understood as such. Why? In part, because they were a very practical people, and such sayings would have brought great impetus to something that really happened, while they would have immediately recognized the saying to be for that purpose only.

In other words, you don't know what you are talking about when you try to take things literally that are not meant to be taken literally. The Bible, itself, prefaces the literal and the figurative with wording that shows that it is literal or figurative.

For example. Regarding Daniel 4:10,11, it seems that you have intentionally quoted it in Old English, in ways that we don't understand the English anymore, and completely outside of the scope and context in which it was written. Read it in modern English:
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10 These are the visions I saw while lying in my bed: I looked, and there before me stood a tree in the middle of the land. Its height was enormous.

11 The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth.
Didn't you ever have a dream that you didn't understand?

Study the O.T. and the linguistics and history of the people of Israel before you make goofy statements like you have made about the Bible.

Regarding NASA, one of their biggest lies is that Big Bang is truth. Yet, they DO have much truth among the things that they do. The missing day thing isn't a NASA thing. It is a general astronomy thing, and it is real. NASA simply adopted it.

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29043  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Paris admits Nice attack was a false flag operation on: July 24, 2016, 09:19:56 PM
The only way groups like Islamic terrorists get enough funds to do anything is this: Most countries buy their oil, thereby funding them.

Locations all over the United States, and especially off Alaska where there is little or no ecological damage to be done, have more oil than the whole of the Middle East combined. We don't have to fund Islam for oil.

We fund Islam for oil because it is the purpose of the one-worlders to set the peoples of the world against each other, so that in the future, they can make themselves appear to be the solution. How? By offering peace if we bow to their ruler-ship.

All of the Islamic terrorism has been staged, if not directly, then indirectly, with money and world domination the prize.

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29044  Other / Politics & Society / Wikileaks Releases Nearly 20,000 Hacked DNC Emails on: July 24, 2016, 03:54:31 PM
Wikileaks Releases Nearly 20,000 Hacked DNC Emails





Wikileaks has released nearly 20,000 emails it says are from the accounts of Democratic National Committee officials.

The release could cloud the upcoming Democratic party convention, which kicks off next week in Philadelphia.

It is unclear how Wikileaks obtained the records, but the release comes weeks after a hacker (or hackers) going by the name Guccifer 2.0 began releasing records obtained through the DNC's computer systems. The hacker claims to be Romanian, but many suspect that the records were taken by a team of Russian hackers.

Guccifer 2.0 has said that they obtained DNC emails. Other documents released by the hacker(s) include internal planning memos and databases of Democratic donors.


Read more at http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/22/wikileaks-releases-nearly-20000-hacked-dnc-emails/.


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29045  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: July 24, 2016, 03:46:28 PM
I dont know why all world govrements dont want say that religions are fake and save us from drugs halucinations called religion.I even dont know why religion exist?Is that to give job to fat priests which are lazy?

The governments would like to do that very much. Then they could promote their governmental religion as the national religion. Actually, Great Britain did that with the Church of England.

Religion is a strong motivator. Look at how the Irish Catholics fight the English Protestants with very real fighting. Best idea is for government to allow the people religious freedom so that government isn't completely destroyed.

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29046  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: July 24, 2016, 03:42:03 PM
I think there is no mystery behind that 9/11 attack.  It is just purely created by twisted insane minds.  People who loves killing and brutality.  It is 15 years and terrorism is just making the headlines almost everyday in different part of the world.
and is it ever possible to stop such kind of activities. i am wonder that all the super powers are active against them and still the are not succeeded to stop them what is the reality i think no one still know.
It is strange to think that powerful countries spend billions of dollars in fighting terrorism. But still the terrorist group are thriving in their
works !!! I am wondering if the government is attacking or funding them !!! Doesn't it make a sense. If they really wanted terrorism to stop
then it would have been gone !!!!
No, this is not strange.  Particularly when the major funder of terrorist groups is Iran.

So it is a proxy war similar in some ways to the Cold War, when the Soviets funded Cuba and Cuba sent people in many directions to do bad things...

Where does Iran get funds to fund anything? One way or another, it is from deals made by the big bankers and one-worlders "giving" them the financing they need to pull this off. So, it has been an inside job for a long time now. 9/11 was simply a more visible inside working towards destruction of world freedom.

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Saudi funding is more probable, Al-qaeda, ISIL are Wahhabist ideology terrorist organizations. What is your reason for Iran?

Iran has been the major international sponser of terrorism since the 1970s.

I agree that "Saudi funding" was likely in the case of 911.  Does not imply or require an orchestrated government effort though.  Could have been just one or a few of the 10,000 "princes" in their royal family.

This makes sense. Inside-job Americans would have been a lot smarter to keep their nefarious deeds as secret as possible. Their involvement with only one or two powerful princes would not only keep funding expenses down, but who would believe one or two princes if they decided to tell the truth later? I mean, it's hard enough to get some people to even see that 9/11 was an inside job with the strong evidence piled right in front of them. So, who's gonna believe Arab princes?

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29047  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think its the end of Capitalism? on: July 24, 2016, 03:36:43 PM

These days capitalism is based on a debt-money Ponzi that operates worldwide. Done properly, it might last a thousand more years. But there are too many unwise fingers pulling big money strings... and there have been for several decades. Capitalism will flop shortly. And if modern technology doesn't fail along with it, things like Bitcoin might make capitalism obsolete.

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Modern system would be better classified as Debtism instead of Capitalism?

Better classified as super capitalism. Why? Because the debt-money Ponzi sucks property from the people. Then when the super capitalists have clear title to all the property, they won't care about the people anymore.

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29048  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 24, 2016, 03:31:40 PM
The bible clearly stated that in the time of Noah and even after, there were giants (hybrids formed from women and demons).

These giants - of course being strong -  could have done all those things that we need machines for nowadays.

Yes only we've never found the remains of these giants,  there s more likelihood that we where using jcbs to do all the work back then.  Probably the more realistic idea to be honest.



You can't find the remains of something that has died more than 3000 years ago unless it was buried in ice. They are not dinosaurs you know.

But Wikipedia says you can go back several billion years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil. Of course, the dating methods are arbitrary figures, and the dates that have been set are just guesses. But they do say it.

When you consider that there might not have been any C-14 in the atmosphere prior to about 4,500 years ago, the ages might be over by billions of years.

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There were actually BBC documentaries about giants existing millions of years and that they've found fossils of them but then seized by government authorities and cover it up. This actually make sense if you don't want people to ask more questions about the giants, and if more and more people get to prove they are real then history must all be rewritten again.  Isn't Goliath  just one proof?

Goliath is a fictional character though, and even if hes based loosely on a real person he might not have even been that tall. The bible is well known of its exagerated stories but the facts are that back in those days the average person was much shorter than they are today so goliath might have been a giant in those days but simply a tall person if we saw him nowadays . Also why would every government hide the fact that giants used to exist ?  Its of no advantage to them if people knew or not so its not some big cover up.

Except for one minor detail. The idea that the Bible is full of exaggerations is a lie.

Isaiah in the The Dead Sea Scrolls from around 2,400 years ago, is almost exactly the same as the last of the Hebrew copies done by scribes recently. This shows that the Hebrew people were very particular about copying the Bible accurately down through the ages.

Add to that the fact that the Bible itself says that the Hebrew people were to execute false prophets. This shows that there was accuracy maintained in the Bible, because if the scribes messed it up, they would be punished or executed themselves for falsifying a prophet. Copies weren't made by only one or two scribes. Many scribes copied the Bible so the people could see the accuracy.

Now that we have the accuracy of the Bible settled, the Biblical Age of the Earth website (http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm), coupled with info from the Old Testament, shows us that Goliath lived around 3,100 years ago. The accuracy of the Hebrew people told the truth about the size of Goliath... truth written in the Bible.

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29049  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think its the end of Capitalism? on: July 24, 2016, 03:47:43 AM
It is not capitalism that is a problem here. As usual people are to blame. They can twist and taint every existing system: monarchy, communism, capitalism, democracy.
It doesn't matter if wrong people are in power. For example - if we are talking about free market economy them China illustrates this system better than current market situation in USA.

But it is usually an extremely small percentage of society. Consider...

You have a small group of people living off the land, with no formal government. They are probably family, or easily could be because of their internal group relationships.

When the group grows larger enough through having children, somebody in the group becomes a thief. Sooner or later he is caught and punished.

The thief becomes smarter, and gets together with other thieves and forms a "government." This is a government of thieves - strength in numbers.

The group of honest people need to form a government of their own to thwart the thieves. When they do, they start to realize the strength in government, but they don't see the flaw - that thieves can wiggle their way into the government and use it to enslave the whole group.


Common law is the law of the group while it still was small. Civil law is the law of the group when it becomes large and forms a government. In America, the people never gave themselves over to the authority of civil law. Not one living person is mentioned in the codes and statues.

The sin of the people is that they forgot that they still have common law that can override civil law. In America, this common law is built right into the formation of the Constitution, especially in Amendments 6, 7, 9, and 10. But it has its foundation in the Preamble to the Constitution.

Before civil law overruns everything, people who have common law as their foundation, need to adjust bad civil law, or eliminate it. Why? If they don't, they will become slaves to the people who run civil law.

Capitalism is an outgrowth of civil law.

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29050  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: July 24, 2016, 01:54:55 AM
This is reason why I am atheist .

1) God is a human creation.

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Well, science (the thing that proves God exists) is a human creation, as well, right?

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29051  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: July 24, 2016, 01:53:10 AM


Smart parents taught this kid to swim, and he doesn't want out of the pool.

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29052  Other / Politics & Society / Re: $25,000 Bitcoin Reward to Hack Documents Proving Orlando Was a False Flag on: July 24, 2016, 01:51:10 AM
The Internet is on fire with speculation about who is really behind this event.   A casual look at the videos show that crisis actors were used.   Why?    The Huffington Post Club wants the answer, either from people who participated and had to sign NDAs, or from hackers who can get the goods on way or another.  Wink

http://hpub.org/25000-reward-for-information-leading-to-exposure-of-false-flag-at-orlando/

No, the "Internet is not on fire with speculation about blah-blah-blah".


It's just another dully, dreary Islamic extremist fascist attack.  We all know that.

Incidentally, where it is most likely to be conceivable that a government would do a false flag attack is where they goofed and wanted to cover it up.  An example would maybe a couple cops out in the city and one accidentally shoots another.  They want to cover it up, so why not call it a terrorist thing?

Yes, but, there would be no terrorist attacks if governments hadn't removed guns from the average people. If the people had had guns all along, they would all respect each other. Terrorism would be dead for lack of ability to find any weak people to terrorize.

So you see? It is always an inside job in places where there is gun control.

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29053  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shooting in Munich on: July 24, 2016, 01:46:20 AM
Do they have gun control over in Europe? I wonder if this kind of thing happens in Switzerland.

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29054  Other / Off-topic / Re: #Black holes Matter on: July 24, 2016, 01:43:28 AM
Another one of those weird theories that can never be proved.

Well, if Satoshi would come back and put his huge fortune to good use, we might get some answers.  Tongue

Yes, but if he did, even Bitcoin would become a black hole.    Cool
29055  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: July 24, 2016, 01:40:17 AM

LMAO!


A little forum trolling might be fun. But this kind of trolling borders on belief for the troll. And this kind of belief is destructive for the troll.

As Solo said to Chewbacca in Star Wars, "Laugh it up fuzzball." But it won't be so much fun when the fuzz is burning off.

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29056  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 24, 2016, 01:36:01 AM
Donald Trump:

"America is one of the highest-taxed nations in the world. Reducing taxes will cause new companies and new jobs to come roaring back into our country. Believe me, it'll happen and it'll happen fast."
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/22/donald-trump/trumps-claim-us-taxes-tweaked/

Do I even have to explain how high is this amount of bullshit? Anyone can see it no? ^^

US hasn't highest corporate tax nor highest income tax. Payroll tax is not the highest in US either.  US tax system is a dream for many  Cheesy


Yeah that's why they try to impose their shitty capitalist system around the word...

And it is so "shitty" that everybody - even the little individual people - is "dying" to get more capital.

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29057  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: July 24, 2016, 01:33:50 AM
I think there is no mystery behind that 9/11 attack.  It is just purely created by twisted insane minds.  People who loves killing and brutality.  It is 15 years and terrorism is just making the headlines almost everyday in different part of the world.
and is it ever possible to stop such kind of activities. i am wonder that all the super powers are active against them and still the are not succeeded to stop them what is the reality i think no one still know.
It is strange to think that powerful countries spend billions of dollars in fighting terrorism. But still the terrorist group are thriving in their
works !!! I am wondering if the government is attacking or funding them !!! Doesn't it make a sense. If they really wanted terrorism to stop
then it would have been gone !!!!
No, this is not strange.  Particularly when the major funder of terrorist groups is Iran.

So it is a proxy war similar in some ways to the Cold War, when the Soviets funded Cuba and Cuba sent people in many directions to do bad things...

Where does Iran get funds to fund anything? One way or another, it is from deals made by the big bankers and one-worlders "giving" them the financing they need to pull this off. So, it has been an inside job for a long time now. 9/11 was simply a more visible inside working towards destruction of world freedom.

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29058  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think its the end of Capitalism? on: July 24, 2016, 01:29:14 AM
These days capitalism is based on a debt-money Ponzi that operates worldwide. Done properly, it might last a thousand more years. But there are too many unwise fingers pulling big money strings... and there have been for several decades. Capitalism will flop shortly. And if modern technology doesn't fail along with it, things like Bitcoin might make capitalism obsolete.

Cool
29059  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 24, 2016, 01:24:08 AM
The bible clearly stated that in the time of Noah and even after, there were giants (hybrids formed from women and demons).

These giants - of course being strong -  could have done all those things that we need machines for nowadays.

Yes only we've never found the remains of these giants,  there s more likelihood that we where using jcbs to do all the work back then.  Probably the more realistic idea to be honest.



You can't find the remains of something that has died more than 3000 years ago unless it was buried in ice. They are not dinosaurs you know.

But Wikipedia says you can go back several billion years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil. Of course, the dating methods are arbitrary figures, and the dates that have been set are just guesses. But they do say it.

When you consider that there might not have been any C-14 in the atmosphere prior to about 4,500 years ago, the ages might be over by billions of years.

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29060  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REdiscovering EARTH and its technology on: July 24, 2016, 01:18:44 AM
i have no knowledge about this thing. i do not know any thing about this. buy may be possible. because some time the ruins and remains of the ancient people make us wonder when when do study about their constructions. for example the pyramid hoe does they built what kind of technology used for constructing it.

Many advanced machines where used to build structures such as the pyramids. All someone needed was a lot of money to buy these machines and give them food and water to keep them running. Whips im sure would also increase effectiveness of the machines until they reached their end of practical use.





Yeah. Sure. About as accurate as this dumb picture:

Like, your picture doesn't show the more important thing, like how to cut the blocks so accurately, and how to transport them without all the chips necessary to "hook" the ropes.

Get real. It wasn't slave labor. It was paid labor, and paid well so that the workers had enough strength and motivation to go on. Paid labor, just like today. And then there's the science part...

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It could be paid labour that built them i doubt it but for sake of the argument we could say it was definitely paid,  it would still take thousands of "employees"  to create the structures and as for cutting them i don't know,  probably just a larger stone Chisled down to spec but however it was done i bet it was very basic,  no advanced tools of machines,  just trades that have been lost in time.

I'm not going to look into the details right now, but I have heard that there are what appear to be saw marks on some of the humongous stones in Egypt, that could only have been made by saws moving much faster than the power saws we generally use for such work today. Is this true? Maybe you know.

Paid labor? If you work on a job, maybe you get $20 per hour. Owners get more. Big bankers get more. Presidents get much more in perks. Okay, you are right. $20 an hour is slave pay. Just ask Walmart, Target, and fast food workers.

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