my 88xx order is apparently 'shipped' no email, no tracking number.
i'll hold my 'excitement' for now - i tried calling +46 8559 253 20 but my phone displayed 'wrong number'
Congrats! My 102xx has changed back to in progress so judging by the numbersi may get it this week. As for the other stuff, really? Life's just too short for all that stuff. Imho. Someone got some free stuff, big deal. Someone missed out on the special offer, get over it. Someone didn't/couldn't get their funds together, tough. Someone forgot to tick the box to get updates and newsletters, boohoo. Sometimes custom made money making devices are a bit tempermental.. No shit sherlock. I mean honestly sometimes its like listening to little kids whining. What it is more often than not is sour grapes or people cleverly gaming and social engineering attempts to stop people buying either for selfish reasons or to try and turn people to other products, but I thunk more of the former than the latter. And as for the holier than thou "saviour" syndrome that some posters have, that expect kudos and gratitude for scoring points or making nebulous claims or accusations, well they are just pure entertainment. Finally if you are waffling on about coulda/shoulda/woulda bought BTC instead of mining you fall into the above self interest groups as well. You think your altruistic facade works in here? Dream on. |
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i think you're getting confused. its a different asic company that has a mid-december fantasy... cointerra's fantasy is late december..!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mid-december+cointerra-----------------------------------> Next time you indulge the lazy temptation to assume I'm confused, first check your own facts.  They sold systems with a 'december 2013' deadline - they never supplied a date, and it is usual to expect the end of the month when given a month - so we naturally assumed late december (it'd be foolish to assume anything else). They also promised to compensate customers if they're more than 30 days late (i.e. jan 31st is the true deadline), in a similar way to hashfast who sold their systems with an october 2013 delivery date, and offered compensation/refund if they're 60 days late. hashfast are now well past 30 days into their 60 day buffer and have to deliver by end of this month or face angry villagers with pitchforks and torches. And with thanksgiving, xmas, and new years holidays in the middle, its a pretty difficult time to get everyone working at full steam. Cointerra may well need to use their buffer too.. but so far, even recently, they said they're not planning to be late. we shall see. time will of course, tell! meanwhile, both hashfast AND cointerra suffered their delays in the hands of their contractors. i really don't see how you can come on here bitching that cointerra has somehow employed incompetent contractors when the very same kinds of contractors are directly responsible for delaying hashfast's silicon - and who do you think is responsible for the delays with hashfast's substrates!? And who do you think is responsible for cointerra's tape-out delays!? In both cases its the back-end contractors (open silicon in cointerra's case and uniquify in hashfast's case). Both hashfast and cointerra designed their rtl themselves and then handed it over to their back-end partners for layout, physical design, tapeout, substrate design, liaising with the fabs, expediting orders etc. in both of their cases, the delays were unexpected and beyond their control and though neither of them will say it because they won't trash the people they work with... both of their delays were most likely attributable to their contractors... and yet again, KnC, who also used similar back-end contractors (in their case Alchip)... did a great job on their physical design, AND their substrates and executed flawlessly to deliver them working first time silicon in less than 60 days from tape-out to shipping systems. It CAN be done. We of course hope that cointerra doesn't suffer the same delays and have to hope that open silicon, for instance, has designed good substrates for them. hashfast taped out in late august, cointerra taped out in early nov and so hf should be more than two months ahead, but unfortunately, they were badly let down by their contractors and they've more or less lost most of that 10 week advantage that they should've had and i suspect theyre at best 3-4 weeks ahead. its likely both companies will show working silicon in december... hashfast in early dec (presumably in mere days from now since they've shown a pic showing they've got substrates back).. and cointerra in late december (fingers crossed). As i always say... we shall see! The difference isn't really who ships first.. since clearly, hashfast are supposed to ship first and charged a lot more for their gigahashes than cointerra did. cointerra priced theirs according to their ship dates, and if they end up shipping closer together than first expected, then the hashfast customers may well feel they overpaid compared to the cointerra customers. lets take a poll of both company's customers after they both ship and see what people think. on the other hand, since btc to the usd is going so well, maybe everyone will just be happy they both ship at all! Come off it aerobatic you are being way to even handed and calm about this, are you sure you don't want to throw something at someone? Oh +1 btw.. |
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So anyone going all in for the Neptune batch 2?
I feel I need to mine a bit more i think. If only i could get this october jupe to consistantly hash at 600 Ghs  |
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I must have missed something..... Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"? Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see... I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries... remember last batch?
So are they rewarding their original customers with a discount and a few week of mining exclusivity or is it going to take 4 weeks of production to get the first batch out of the door. Both?  |
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I must have missed something..... Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"? Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see... I cannot find anything to support that theory.
not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders. It actually does say "batch" - Limited batch of 1200 units, -These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first Neptune BatchGuess that'll be a batch then   Think Phoenix1969 (young whippersnapper) is probably starting to go loopy without his Jupiters and Saturns to keep him company. Tweaking these things keeps you DAMN SHARP I tell ya! |
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I must have missed something..... Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"? Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see... I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries... remember last batch?
https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptuneBeatcha! and mine had bullet points neener |
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I must have missed something..... Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"? Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see... I cannot find anything to support that theory.
not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders. Yup it does Neptune is our first 20nm product and will be shipping in Q1/Q2 of 2014. The stats and performance that we can release today are - Minimum 3000GH/s of hashing speed that 3TH Over 5 times the speed of our first Jupiter release (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)
- A 30% reduction in watts per GH
- Based on the existing Jupiter design (See photo, however this may change as development progresses)
- Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014
- Bitcoins first ever 20nm miner bought to you form the company who shipped the first 28nm bitcoin miner
- Limited batch of 1200 units,
- Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only.
- These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first Neptune Batch
- All refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund up to shipment
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I just think they are swamped with calls.
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It is also not fair from knc to not answer about production and shipping. I have opened an ticket inside the https://kncminer.zendesk.comIm really angry about this! I'm in the same boat man, but remember you just opened a ticket after 7pm in Sweden time, it won't get looked at till tommorow now unless they are in all-hands-on-deck mode. |
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Quite funny "be in game", people selling they cars just be in your game, i like people who just plugged their jupiter switch on get $$$$ and pretend be genius in business stuffs. There was a guy on bfl forum he invest in Josh 60Ghs miner, he wait too long to reach his dream (his dau die on leukemia) playing with people's money a visions about 3ths don't be......
OK, I'm trying to work out if we are in agreement or not, I'm hoping we are, and my apologies if I am wrong Personally I don't think there is any business knowledge involved in switching a Jupiter on and getting some $$$ out of it, however there is some luck and courage (which are business skills btw) involved in risking some of your hard earned coin on unreleased hardware. Picking the right device from the right manufacturer at the right time is more luck than skill, thats why I'm still half looking at HF and Cointerra and Black Arrow. If there is even a twinkle of info that looks legit about them launching between here and Q2 next year, I may hedge my bets on the Neptune by nabbing one of theirs. But I'll probably be too late, too chicken, can't have that much luck right? |
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Hold 4 what, folks must pay bills and get borrowed money back  If you are borrowing money at high interest or using money you should be paying bills with then you shouldn't be in this game. |
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Of course, thats why I paid over the odds for my Jupiter in October, then bought another one in November. But I'm curious as to the answer, I mean I could understand if it was only 1TH in 3-4 months but 3-4TH well I thought it was a good enough deal, maybe I'm the idiot, only time will tell Antminer is a low-risk/low-reward bet. Neptune is a high-risk/high-reward bet. Yet KnC was a high-risk/high-reward bet originally and many have benefited from that in the past two rounds. And it being high-risk/high-reward doesn't clarify why they are suddenly on his shit list. I'm interested Xian001 is someone who I like to read comments from and I think is a reasonable guy. |
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Bro 3Thas is just theory (a joke) they mentioned in interview 2Thas but as usually lurking btc tactics work very well
Yes 3Th/s is just a theory (more prediction), but not a joke, they thought Jupiter would be 300Gh/s in May, then 400Gh/s in August but it ended up being delivered at 550Gh/s in October and is now 650Gh/s (Nov) I would expect them to continue to aim low and shoot high with the next gen, hopefully with the experience they have under their belt from this generation and the way they like to overdeliver will grant a 3TH/s min advertised hashrate but maybe a little more on delivery. Its advertised at 3Th, this is not just an guess in an article before it launched. |
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Just out of interest Xian01, who isn't on your shit-list of companies? I notice you spent $8600 on 360Ghs (180Ghs x2) Antminers but you don't think that 3TH a $13K is a good deal?
Do you really not understand the difference between a miner delivered *this* week, and one that might be delivered in 6 months? Of course, thats why I paid over the odds for my Jupiter in October, then bought another one in November. But I'm curious as to the answer, I mean I could understand if it was only 1TH in 3-4 months but 3-4TH well I thought it was a good enough deal, maybe I'm the idiot, only time will tell |
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Unfortunately, going to need to add KNC to a list of companies I won't be dealing with after seeing this price gouging and ordering shenanigans for this next gen. (Excuse me ? You honestly wanted me to order your products through resellers that I have even less trust in than you ?!?)
Congrats to everyone that got in on this at $10k.
Newbies pay $13k ? Yeah, sorry Sam. Will be dealing with your competitors instead on principle. Life is too short to deal with that sort of nonsense.
Its not just Newbies, thats the price for previous customers as well. Are you completely discounting the events of last week where previous customers were able to order these for $10k ? when all of us ordered month ago with knc, there was possibility we were gonna be scammed, knc offered that since we believed in them, they would offer us a perk for having faith in them, 3k off the neptune was that perk... Of course the real kicker is that I had to pay VAT on my $9995 which totals near $12,200 so not such a great deal in comparison to anyone buying one anywhere else in the world |
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Unfortunately, going to need to add KNC to a list of companies I won't be dealing with after seeing this price gouging and ordering shenanigans for this next gen. (Excuse me ? You honestly wanted me to order your products through resellers that I have even less trust in than you ?!?)
Congrats to everyone that got in on this at $10k.
Newbies pay $13k ? Yeah, sorry Sam. Will be dealing with your competitors instead on principle. Life is too short to deal with that sort of nonsense.
Its not just Newbies, thats the price for previous customers as well. Are you completely discounting the events of last week where previous customers were able to order these for $10k ? Of course not, but I'm saying if I want to order another one now, I have to pay $13K as well. Just clarifying that its not just newbies that have to pay the new price, but existing customers who wouldn't or couldn't take advantage of the earlier deal. Its not like existing customers will still get the discounted price going forward is all I meant |
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Unfortunately, going to need to add KNC to a list of companies I won't be dealing with after seeing this price gouging and ordering shenanigans for this next gen. (Excuse me ? You honestly wanted me to order your products through resellers that I have even less trust in than you ?!?)
Congrats to everyone that got in on this at $10k.
Newbies pay $13k ? Yeah, sorry Sam. Will be dealing with your competitors instead on principle. Life is too short to deal with that sort of nonsense.
Its not just Newbies, thats the price for previous customers as well. Just out of interest Xian01, who isn't on your shit-list of companies? I notice you spent $8600 on 360Ghs (180Ghs x2) Antminers but you don't think that 3TH a $13K is a good deal? |
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No, but I did find with my 4 VRM one that putting the volts up too much turned the core off like your Die 2 is showing.
Is that what your trying to do? Get Die 2 up and running?
yep this is what i am trying. it would be very nice if you could share your settings. Hmm, I'd reset it all to default, what are your individual die voltages at default? Mine are -0.1121V on all dies. You can get it back to defaults by hitting "Reset to Factory Defaults" Then just increase ASIC1 - Die2 by 0.01V increments till you get to 0 leaving it for a few minutes at a time. I didn't have a completely dead die, well I didn't when I started, but I stopped a few dies by overvolting them, but got them back by putting it back to defaults and being more cautious. It takes time, I had putty open in the screen session watching for cores disabling and bertmod in one browser to confirm what die the core disabled, then I would tweak the voltage on that die little bit by little bit until it came back on again. Then the waiting game for more dies to turn off, etc etc. Similar patience is needed when overclocking CPU/GPU/Memory for benchmarking. A PITA to do while its happening, but very satisfying when you get it working. Of course you may just have a terminally faulty module, which you will have to RMA  |
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