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2921  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of Southampton FC 👋👋 on: December 26, 2021, 09:33:32 PM
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2922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: December 26, 2021, 09:16:45 PM
Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero.

I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.

It's really up to Casimero, if he insists to his manager to get Inoue at all cost then maybe they can negotiate with Bob to seal the fight. However, if Bob says no as he wanted to milk Inoue more then we won't see the fight. Of course this is want we wanted to see, but boxing is business so it will make sense for boxing managers to seek more lucrative money fights instead of unification. Although in the end it will be inevitable as they are the champions in this divisions.
Well, I've forgotten that he has his manager and they've got their promoter.

So basically you're right. If the promoter gives a go signal to him then the manager would just go what's according to the manager and this fight is going to be possible.

If the promoter declines, well, it's probably a wish to everyone of us but I guess they really are considering it. Since a lot of fans have seen the fight to be on hype and there's money into it which they really like.

Casimero has to wait, he will get his moment against Inoue, for now, he has to face this mandatory challenger in front of him, after he beats Butler, then maybe we can start talking again about a potential Inoue-Casimero unification fight. Bob would always want to milk Inoue or his fighter to be specific but he also beleieve that Inoue can beat Casimero, so this fight is going to happen, we just don't know when yet.
2923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: December 26, 2021, 02:16:15 PM
I believe that Mario Barrios has a good chance to win this fight since Keith Thurman has not been in the ring for over two and a half years. That time might have taken its toll on his physical condition. Mario Barrios also has a height and arm length advantage, which might help him. It will be interesting to see this fight.

But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

Each of us has our own views on this or that fight and boxers. This is quite normal. Also, this is my assumption and I do not advise to use this information when making decisions when betting on one of the boxers. I probably won't bet on this fight myself, but I will definitely watch it. There is still enough time to change my mind though.

That's right, betting has to be taken seriously because we are risking money, there are fights that we choose to watch only but would not put our bet because we are not confident with our prediction or we just don't see the value for us to win. For me, this is a big fight and I will never miss watching this and I'm surely gonna put my bet. As I am impressed with Thurman's performance against pacquioa although he lose, so I would put my bet on him to win this fight.
2924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 26, 2021, 01:43:04 PM
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I don't think he Spence is avoiding Crawford. Maybe it make sense to get the belt from Ugas first and then go after Crawford for the unification bout in mid or late 2022 that will put a lot of money in the table. Maybe Crawford can fight Thurman too if "One Time", can get over Barrios this February. So there's a lot of options still open for Crawford while waiting for Spence.

Or the schedule doesn't match the two, Crawford just won against Porter and then Spence trying to make a comeback so it's better for him to fight Ugas first as Crawford might not be available the soonest.

So once Spence take care of Ugas then maybe they sit down and talk. Forget about Thurman, he is not that active so he needs to climb back in the rankings. And he is fighting an overblown 140 lbs ex-champion so it doesn't really count.

Will see but I still consider Thurman a huge threat. He only loses once and we are counting him out already, I'm sure Thurman will win in his upcoming fight and Spence ( if he wins against Ugas) and Crawford should be ready as Thurman is not a leftover as some of you are thinking.
2925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: December 20, 2021, 09:45:22 PM
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their chance to be able to compete is very difficult now jack may come back to challenge if fury is healed later but will he be able to beat Woodey later.
whether this youtuber can bring his luck again against this former UFC fighter or not because if you look at it, actually Woodey is a former UFC welterweight champion who is considered a good striking MMA fighter.
There are huge bets coming in for Tyron Woodley and the odds are attractive and some of the experts are claiming that Tyron Woodley can amend his loss this time around and the odds are 2.8 which is really attractive but i have not seen him win a fight for a long time and i am yet to see him work in the gym and Tyron Woodley had really power when he was reigning as a champion but once he lost that power, may be due to injury he started accumulating losses.
in terms of strength, actually there is no need to talk about who is strong but the problem is this is an exhibition match which incidentally when talking about champions, jack is the one who will occupy the top rank and the king of exhibitions Cheesy
It doesn't matter what kind of strength he is, no matter what his performance in the ring is like, what is certain is that Jack is above all (in popularity).
I personally don't want to bet on matches like this because I don't think it's going to go well

You made a type error two times already, it's not jack but Jake.

Yes, if we rank the fighters in exhibition fights, Jake Paul is in the top 1 as he is still undefeated until now, no offense on Mayweather but Jake Paul has been consistently fighting and I'm waiting for his next big fight as he gets better every time. Though I still prefer a professional fight that this one, but it's hard to resist seeing exhibition fights since they know how to hype the fight.
2926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 20, 2021, 09:22:46 PM
My early picks will be for the super dogs.  Grin
Golden State Warriors versus Sacramento Kings - Warriors -13.5 Wiggins out due to health and safety protocols but with a fresh Steph Curry and Draymond Green should be enough to win the game in a blowout.

I think as long as Curry is there, warriors would be able to win by blowout.

If no one could stop Curry, he might drop 50 points in this game, we know that he is the greatest shooter in NBA history now, so his journey will continue while polishing his legacy.  And what makes me think the Warriors will dominate is that they are playing on their home court which they only loss twice in 16 games.

I'm going to stay clear of the Warriors tonight, the spread is too wide imo, I mean Warriors are solid team yeah, but I just don't feel too comfortable with -13.5 to be honest, but good luck btw.
Since it's the Warriors, I would not be bothered watching the game with the high handicap for the opposing team.
They are a team who can beat a team by 20 points in just one quarter, so every quarter is very crucial and once they starts hitting their shots, it will just continue until they completely dominate the opposing team.

I'll be riding on the Celtics -3.5, Bulls -6.5 and Clippers ML for tonight.

GL Everyone!

Good luck @Harkorede, both teams came from a win, so they have the momentum now.
2927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title on: December 20, 2021, 08:22:42 PM
Magsayo needs to plan every strategy that he will use against Russell. A defensive fighter is the hard one to take down
it will take a lot of preparations for Magsayo.

He should seek some advice from Donaire, Magsayo sometimes does not conserve his energy, he loves to throw punches that are not accurate as he is thinking that he could  KO someone who hits him without knowing his defense gets open. This is a title fight, a one time opportunity for some, so he has to carefully plan how to win this fight as it's a big-ticket to his future success.

Probably boils down to his trainer and what plans they are going to approach this fight.

I do agree that the he should be accurate in his punch and conserve energy in the early rounds because it's going to be a rough night for him. But emulating Donaire's style might not be good though, it's the timing, so they need to have better planning otherwise Magsayo might end up getting knock out too.

Of course, anything is possible, Magsayo could be knocked out too because Russell knows how to win as the champion. Magsayo has only become a top contender but has not become a world champion yet, if he really has that skills in him, then he should win the biggest fight of his life. All I can say is I wish him luck, continue training hard, and always believe that he can win. Lastly, a loss here is not the end of his career, but a win will only more doors for big opportunities.
2928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title on: December 20, 2021, 07:55:32 PM
Magsayo needs to plan every strategy that he will use against Russell. A defensive fighter is the hard one to take down
it will take a lot of preparations for Magsayo.

He should seek some advice from Donaire, Magsayo sometimes does not conserve his energy, he loves to throw punches that are not accurate as he is thinking that he could  KO someone who hits him without knowing his defense gets open. This is a title fight, a one time opportunity for some, so he has to carefully plan how to win this fight as it's a big-ticket to his future success.
2929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: December 20, 2021, 03:12:57 PM
Yes, AD is really a problem now, he has become more prone to injury and it has affected the Lakers a lot. Speaking of Thomas, I think we should not expect much from him, his out of his prime already and he would not be able to contribute big time for the Lakers as there's Lebron and Westbrook who would always love to bring the ball.

Without Davis the Lakers are in trouble, that's the reality as we already saw what happened to this team last playoffs when they face the Suns. However, there's still a good news on the injury of Davis as he will not be out for a long period of time, as per report, he will only missed 4 weeks as the injury was just an MCL Sprain.

read for more information
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021287-lakers-anthony-davis-out-at-least-1-month-after-knee-injury-diagnosed-as-mcl-sprain

That's right, as long as he comes back, that's what is more important and Davis is very important in the playoffs than the regular season as the Lakers can enter in the playoffs even without him. I wish him a speedy recovery, Lakers would improve with him as he is a good producer of points inside.

I was surprised while browsing my social media so I double-checked and was shocked it was real.
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32899963/deron-williams-beats-frank-gore-via-split-decision-boxing-exhibition-ex-nba-nfl-stars
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Deron Williams beats Frank Gore via split decision in boxing exhibition between ex-NBA, NFL stars

Looks like Deron Williams has found a new career.  I never thought he is good in boxing, of course I've known him as a great NBA player before he was injured and he also had some big contracts in his NBA career. After that win, I think he can still have a new fight coming, maybe the main event next time.
2930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule on: December 20, 2021, 02:40:54 PM
And who wouldn't want to see this great fight?

GGG will be tested again by a tough Japanese fighter who is a champion in his own. But covid-19 intervene again and so all we can do is really want for the Japanese government to ease their travel restrictions as this fight will not be move to any countries. And then maybe we can start to speculate again but obviously GGG is the fight favorite amongst us boxing fans.
As of now, we don't have that say to help ease the restrictions in Japan because we know that when it comes to disasters and plagues, they're one of the first countries to act and all we can do now is wait for the Japanese government to open again and resume this postponed fight so we can see how this ends.
We can almost say that Murata is viewed as a hero in Japan not just as a boxing fighter but because he's also a gold medalist on olympics 2012. This will be great for GGG, although we know that GGG has the upper hand in this match and Murata has held the title of MW since January this year.

If he is viewed as a Hero then this is a big fight in Japan and people will surely watch this big fight. I read some article that Murata is even more popular than Inoue and I didn't expect that, but with that information, I now expect that Murata will have all the pressure as he is fighting a known great fighter and a champion as well.
2931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 20, 2021, 02:02:33 PM
My early picks will be for the super dogs.  Grin
Golden State Warriors versus Sacramento Kings - Warriors -13.5 Wiggins out due to health and safety protocols but with a fresh Steph Curry and Draymond Green should be enough to win the game in a blowout.

I think as long as Curry is there, warriors would be able to win by blowout.

If no one could stop Curry, he might drop 50 points in this game, we know that he is the greatest shooter in NBA history now, so his journey will continue while polishing his legacy.  And what makes me think the Warriors will dominate is that they are playing on their home court which they only loss twice in 16 games.
2932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: December 19, 2021, 09:21:06 PM
Without a doubt it is an honor to fight against Tyson but at the same time I do not know how honored Paul would feel if he actually had to fight a Tyson that went after him for real instead of the one he will face in which he will not try to KO him immediately, after all Paul is not really a boxer and even if Tyson is old there is no doubt in my mind that he could destroy him if he really wanted to do it.

Yes, If Mike will push knocking down Paul, the chance is really high. Not because he's aging means that he can no longer have that killer punches, maybe it's not as hard as it is way back on his prime but there's still impact if the punches converted clearly to Paul's critical parts, It's hard to say but if in case Tyson will not follow whatever the camp agrees to happen he can ruin Paul's career.

Most fans are waiting to whatever surprise Tyson will bring to add more entertainment to this fight. Roll Eyes Grin

I don't think it will ruin Paul's career because he has not won a fight yet, as long as he survives and is able to fight again for his next fight, he is still good to go in making money. The Funny part is, Jake Paul keeps winning while Logan Paul Keeps losing, but they both make good money.  Grin
2933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Arthur Beterbiev vs Marcus Browne Light Heavyweight Championship on: December 19, 2021, 08:45:45 PM
apart from this knockout win which allowed him to defend his WBC and IBF light heavyweight titles, Artur also increased his fight record to 17 KO/TKO from 17 fights.
This is a pretty good achievement, the match he presented was quite impressive, even Marcus had to struggle and was overwhelmed several times.
looks like Canelo will get another pretty fierce opponent now

Arthur has to win this game yet, every boxer even how impressive his record will eventually find an opponent that would be his kryptonite.
Look at Wilder, he almost have a 100% KO ratio, but when he faced Fury, things change and it made his career to doom.

Canelo vs Beterbiev would be a great match-up, but I go for Canelo here( no explanation needed).
Exactly, everyone no matter how good he is has some areas in which they are not as good as in the others and if the opponent is able to exploit those vulnerabilities then they get beaten like everyone else, another example of this was the Joshua vs Usyk fight, Joshua has almost everything you would want in a heavyweight fighter, but the boxing skills of Usyk are unparalleled, so he beat him and in my opinion he did easily, so despite the advantages Joshua had he was beaten simply because his opponent was way better on every boxing related skill.

Exactly, because even the greatest boxer of all time which is Muhammad Ali has 5 losses in his professional career. Canelo is a great fighter and though he is not undefeated, he can still continue winning because he develop his skills very well and he is one of the most active boxers in his generation having 2 to 3 fights in a year.
2934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 19, 2021, 08:20:50 PM

Meanwhile, we have Phoenix vs Ginebra now, it's a close game, now tied at 102 with few minute left in the 4th quarter.
let's watch this game together.

The game went to OT but Ginebra manage to win the game because they have JB who made things possible. With that win, Ginebra is now ranked next to NLEX with 3-0 record, so this is really fun because big teams were having a good start at the expect of bad teams like NP and Blackwater Elite.
2935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: December 13, 2021, 09:48:21 PM
Has he even started playing in the D League yet? 
Is G league the same with D league? If so, then Thompson played per report.

Klay Thompson going full-speed in G-League practice, hits first 18 shots
He was also reported that he is joining the team practice already, so that is a sign that he is coming back soon but the organization does not give a specific date as they don't want us to expect so much.
I confess that this leaves me confused most of the time. I read some news a few days ago that Klay Thompson would be back soon and it seems that it is still in December.
Now I see this news giving a sense that there is no precise date for his return.

Anyway, that's rumors and speculation, but anyway I'm really excited to seeing Klay Thompson playing in the NBA again.

Yes, there's no official announcement yet as to when he will return, all we read are just speculation but it's positive speculation as it's back with the good basis that he is really now in good form. They don't have to rush things up, besides, GSW are doing fine and they will surely qualify for the playoffs.
2936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: December 13, 2021, 09:15:15 PM
Has he even started playing in the D League yet? 
Is G league the same with D league? If so, then Thompson played per report.

Klay Thompson going full-speed in G-League practice, hits first 18 shots
He was also reported that he is joining the team practice already, so that is a sign that he is coming back soon but the organization does not give a specific date as they don't want us to expect so much.
2937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What online betting company you know gave you a b'day present? on: December 13, 2021, 08:42:07 PM
Birthday gift from online casinos is nice but 1xbet? Sorry a big NO for me, as it is a well known scam site in the industry.
If they give you birthday gift, means that you have completed KYC process?
Although it is nice, but I wont be interested to do KYC just because of the birthday gift offer especially because the amount of the gift is just that low.
Same here, if I would undergo a KYC requirement, I would make sure that I only submit my information on the site that has fewer complaints and registered legally, AFAIK, 1xbit, or 1xbet does not have a legal entity as a crypto casino, so I would not risk for just a birthday present. I'm gonna bookmark this thread, let's see if there are other sites that offers this kind of promotion, but it's not really a big deal though.
2938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 13, 2021, 08:22:23 PM
This is new. I don't see early picks yet.  Grin We have 9 games for later guys. Share your picks.
It seems like they are underestimating the Rockets way too much to give them a +9.5 against the Hawks. So I'll take advantage of this and risk a +10.5 for the Houston Rockets.


I'm going with the same pick, it's actually +10 as of now.

Though Rockets have 2 losings streak already, but they all cover the handicap given to them and his high handicap is likely going to be covered by the Rockets as well, so I'm gonna ride with you and let's win this thing, how about ML, you don't think they'll pull an upset here?
2939  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu on: December 13, 2021, 01:54:16 PM
I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.

Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.
Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.

I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here.


Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind.

If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this
kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history.

Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target.

Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event Wink


This fight will gauge his journey in the future, if he easily dominates Makabu, then there's a reason to believe that he could dominate this division. He got some skills, he is fast and precise, so all the qualities of a successful boxer is on him, if others were able to succeed when going up, for sure nothing is impossible with Canelo too.
2940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: December 13, 2021, 01:23:46 PM
Speaking of KD, nobody talking about the 51 piece he put up tonight?

Yes, because we are not surprised anymore, he is a great player and he can drop that numbers anytime. Durant is now the leading candidate for MVP, I must say based on my observation, and as he continues to play impressive basketball, there's a huge chance that he'll win the award. Brooklyn are really a good 4th quarter team, 30-13, that's the dominance they have.
Him, Curry and Giannis and to a certain extent Joel Embid is putting MVP numbers.

I really thought that the Pistons will take this one from them, but damn, they played really good defense in the fourth with Durant exploded.

And that's what have been missing for them, that fourth quarter closed out. And now it seems they've found their rhythm.

Nets are a decent team, they are not perfect but they are winning games, and thanks to Durant who is the most consistent on the roster. Look at Durant, he is really tough and deserve to be a future hall of famer as he is carrying his team even one of the big 3 is missing.  Durant just feeling it, we don't need speculate a lot as he is just putting the numbers and consistency that would brought him the MVP award.
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