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December 11, 2021, 07:05:23 AM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know.
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December 11, 2021, 07:26:22 PM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. It's just another start for him. We can speculate, but the conclusion depends on his performances from this weight division. new sets of trainings and workouts to prepare him for this upcoming fight. he can think to what direction to take after this. For now, let's wait to see these two fighters inside the ring and enjoy the fight that they will bring to all the fans and viewers.
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December 11, 2021, 09:30:16 PM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. It's just another start for him. We can speculate, but the conclusion depends on his performances from this weight division. new sets of trainings and workouts to prepare him for this upcoming fight. he can think to what direction to take after this. For now, let's wait to see these two fighters inside the ring and enjoy the fight that they will bring to all the fans and viewers. No doubt about the viewers as Canelo's fans will always support him in his new venture in the CW. The excitement is also there as we don't know yet if Canelo would still dominate like what he did in his present division, and we are guessing big time here since his opponent is a natural heavy fighter. I wish he'll win, but if not, then he can still go back and continue to dominate in a division where he is more comfortable.
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December 11, 2021, 09:38:27 PM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. He said he will go to 180 lbs in this fight so that is about Light Heavyweight limit. And his body has adopted to his weight already so there's no problem about it. It's just a question on how Canelo can take a punch for a legit Cruiserweight, we know he has a good chin, but I do believed that everyone has a limit so we will see in this fight. If his chin has no problems with much bigger guys then good for him and maybe he will be in this division for good.
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December 12, 2021, 09:51:08 AM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. He said he will go to 180 lbs in this fight so that is about Light Heavyweight limit. And his body has adopted to his weight already so there's no problem about it. It's just a question on how Canelo can take a punch for a legit Cruiserweight, we know he has a good chin, but I do believed that everyone has a limit so we will see in this fight. If his chin has no problems with much bigger guys then good for him and maybe he will be in this division for good. And maybe that's what Canelo fighting weight when he moves to LHW against Kovalev or maybe that's what he carries when he is not fighting. So no more adjustments for him, but yes you are right about his world class chin, it will be very well tested. But Canelo knows this so he will play defense and tuck in his chin and this CW tends to be slower because they are bigger and weight more than 200 lbs fight night. So Canelo is still has the advantage because he will still be faster I reckon even if he moves up in weight.
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December 12, 2021, 01:01:05 PM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. That's exactly what I'm thinking also, Canelo is not planning to stop in cruiserweight division if ever he defeats Makabu, no that's not in his plan. Can't you see that he's accepting any rematch from any of his former opponents that he defeated? He's planning to move any division he wants with a goal to defeat any undisputed fighter.
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December 12, 2021, 03:26:15 PM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. That's exactly what I'm thinking also, Canelo is not planning to stop in cruiserweight division if ever he defeats Makabu, no that's not in his plan. Can't you see that he's accepting any rematch from any of his former opponents that he defeated? He's planning to move any division he wants with a goal to defeat any undisputed fighter. But it will be dangerous for him bouncing in weight though, so I guess he would either have to stick to this new division or go to LHW with Beterviev or Bivol waiting for him it Cruiserweight will be too much for him. He give GGG a rematch though, but we wanted a 3rd fight but Canelo doesn't want it and decided to move to 168 lbs. And he can't move to Heavyweight either, I think that's out of his options for now. So either 175 lbs or cruiserweight for him.
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December 12, 2021, 04:45:08 PM |
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No doubt about the viewers as Canelo's fans will always support him in his new venture in the CW. The excitement is also there as we don't know yet if Canelo would still dominate like what he did in his present division, and we are guessing big time here since his opponent is a natural heavy fighter.
I wish he'll win, but if not, then he can still go back and continue to dominate in a division where he is more comfortable.
Fans will always be there for Canelo. Even moving up to this new weight, they are still hoping and believing that Alvarez will continue to dominate and win the fight. Maybe it's not the usual ground for Canelo, but he's intelligence and skills will keep the chance. Much bigger opponent means more challenging fight, and for sure an interesting one for Alvarez.
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December 12, 2021, 07:51:17 PM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. That's exactly what I'm thinking also, Canelo is not planning to stop in cruiserweight division if ever he defeats Makabu, no that's not in his plan. Can't you see that he's accepting any rematch from any of his former opponents that he defeated? He's planning to move any division he wants with a goal to defeat any undisputed fighter. That's very ambitious, but knowing his characteristic, it's very possible that he is aiming to do that. He wanted to move forward. Once he defeats Makabu, it will be sure that more challengers for him, more fights to expect and more exposure for his name. I really wanted to see him fight after fight. If in case, he really excels from this division, we never know if he will stay or move again to another division to see if how far he can proceed.
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December 12, 2021, 08:17:03 PM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
~snip~ ~snip~. That's very ambitious, but knowing his characteristic, it's very possible that he is aiming to do that. He wanted to move forward. Once he defeats Makabu, it will be sure that more challengers for him, more fights to expect and more exposure for his name. I really wanted to see him fight after fight. If in case, he really excels from this division, we never know if he will stay or move again to another division to see if how far he can proceed. Being the number 1 pound for pound in the ranking, that's not "very" ambitious to call it. I mean moving forward is every fighter's ambition, but once you become the best in different weight division, that's not called very ambitious, that's called maximizing your potential to measure how strong your body can take. Staying in the same weight division knowing that you dominate it will just make a fighter lazy, impassionate, and will probably won't challenge him anymore. If I am a boxer and will defeat a higher ranking or weight division than me, I won't stop moving forward. I think that's what every fighter wants to happen in their career.
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December 12, 2021, 09:31:56 PM |
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I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.
Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.
Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.
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December 12, 2021, 09:42:56 PM |
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I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.
Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.
Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully. I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here.
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December 13, 2021, 07:31:01 AM |
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I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.
Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.
Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully. I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here. Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind. If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history. Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target. Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 13, 2021, 11:16:48 AM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. That's exactly what I'm thinking also, Canelo is not planning to stop in cruiserweight division if ever he defeats Makabu, no that's not in his plan. Can't you see that he's accepting any rematch from any of his former opponents that he defeated? He's planning to move any division he wants with a goal to defeat any undisputed fighter. But it will be dangerous for him bouncing in weight though, so I guess he would either have to stick to this new division or go to LHW with Beterviev or Bivol waiting for him it Cruiserweight will be too much for him. He give GGG a rematch though, but we wanted a 3rd fight but Canelo doesn't want it and decided to move to 168 lbs. And he can't move to Heavyweight either, I think that's out of his options for now. So either 175 lbs or cruiserweight for him. That's exactly what I'm also thinking, cruiserweight is his maximum reach and limit because if he will still decide to go heavyweight, it's already too much for him considering his weight and diet needed. There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division.
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December 13, 2021, 12:05:18 PM |
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There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division.
Per https://box.live/world-rankings/cruiserweight/. Makabu is actually number 2 in ranking, so he is really a good fighter in his division, but look at the betting odds, he is an underdog against Canelo, so I think there are not many quality boxers in cruiserweight division.
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December 13, 2021, 01:54:16 PM |
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I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.
Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.
Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully. I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here. Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind. If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history. Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target. Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) This fight will gauge his journey in the future, if he easily dominates Makabu, then there's a reason to believe that he could dominate this division. He got some skills, he is fast and precise, so all the qualities of a successful boxer is on him, if others were able to succeed when going up, for sure nothing is impossible with Canelo too.
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December 13, 2021, 01:56:40 PM |
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Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind. If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history. Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target. Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. I'm sure that this fight of Canelo vs. Makabu will be one of the anticipated fight by next year and we will see what kind of performance does Canelo would going to show us as he moves up to the high level of CW.
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December 13, 2021, 02:00:26 PM |
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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.
We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. That's exactly what I'm thinking also, Canelo is not planning to stop in cruiserweight division if ever he defeats Makabu, no that's not in his plan. Can't you see that he's accepting any rematch from any of his former opponents that he defeated? He's planning to move any division he wants with a goal to defeat any undisputed fighter. But it will be dangerous for him bouncing in weight though, so I guess he would either have to stick to this new division or go to LHW with Beterviev or Bivol waiting for him it Cruiserweight will be too much for him. He give GGG a rematch though, but we wanted a 3rd fight but Canelo doesn't want it and decided to move to 168 lbs. And he can't move to Heavyweight either, I think that's out of his options for now. So either 175 lbs or cruiserweight for him. That's exactly what I'm also thinking, cruiserweight is his maximum reach and limit because if he will still decide to go heavyweight, it's already too much for him considering his weight and diet needed. There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division. But Arum says that most likely Canelo will go down to CW and face Beterbiev somewhere in May or in September next year. Arum handles Beterbiev by the way, so it's obvious that he is shilling for his boy. But it make sense because CW is too much for Canelo I reckon. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.
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Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind. If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history. Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target. Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. I'm sure that this fight of Canelo vs. Makabu will be one of the anticipated fight by next year and we will see what kind of performance does Canelo would going to show us as he moves up to the high level of CW. That's wrong, Canelo is not undefeated as he has one loss and that is against Mayweather last 2013-09-14. you can check his record , he is now 57-1. About the fight, of course it's an anticipated fight as it's Canelo's first fight in Cruiserweight division.
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But Arum says that most likely Canelo will go down to CW and face Beterbiev somewhere in May or in September next year. Arum handles Beterbiev by the way, so it's obvious that he is shilling for his boy. But it make sense because CW is too much for Canelo I reckon. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.
Honestly, we can't consider it as shilling as Artur Beterbiev is really a big thing. He can be a tough opponent for Canelo before moving up facing Ilunga Makabu. A real pound-for-pound fighter won't miss a chance to fight someone like Beterbiev. Since it's just about several months to go, no official preparations nor announcements have been made on. We can surely expect some progress of it around January to February.
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