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2941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 02, 2013, 03:52:07 PM
wht special ? all members buy one miner
receive email for buy batch#1

if you say only who bought pre orders first time and they pay more 500 bucks this is correct yes these are special

1. You have it the wrong way round, the $13K price is the retail price it was always going to be.
2. The $10K price was a discounted price for previous customers, any previous customer of Batch 1 or Batch 2 devices.
2942  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC Miner on: December 02, 2013, 03:48:44 PM
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If you are confident in your product, invest your own money for a greater profit on success.

They did hint this was the last retail product which probably means they make 14nm for themselves.

Because its evolve or die, if KnC don't move to 20nm and more powerful rigs then they will be left in the dust.

Basic business sense.

Agree, they have no competition on the 28nm node!

If you have any business sense you keep selling what sells until your competition catches up and takes your market share.

The only reason you don't is that this is redundant stock you no longer use! I.E. you are mining on the 20nm node.

Perhaps they are concerned about how close their competition are to launch, and want to be ready to blow them away ASAP. Better to stop what you are doing now and focus your energy on the next evolution.

I don't know, I don't work for them, however they aren't Samsung or someone that has enormous amounts of production capacity, heck they don't have the buying power or manufacturing power to make the components they need by themselves. They actually  bought the entire worlds supply of the VRM modules for Batch1 and had to switch (luckily to something more efficient) for Batch2.

I'm not saying that its not impossible for them to keep on selling Jupiter level hardware and continuing to make money, anything is possible if there is a will. Its not even that they don't have the manpower or resources to both sell, build and ship more of the 28nm designs, although tbh their ordering and back end systems and resources are at breaking point as it is from what I have seen/experienced etc.

I think its deeper than that, I think that there are multiple factors, some of which might be listed above, I think its a bit of a balancing act. I think its also about making a 3TH feel affordable while difficulty levels aren't stratospheric. Theres probably even a little bit of techy geekness in there about being the first to 20nm, about creating something better than and before the competition does. It may even be possible that they want to control the hash rate of the network to a certain degree, again making it more attractive for future buyers to be offered something that stands half a chance of making money.

But to be fair I don't think the OP gives a monkeys about KnCs business practice, all they want is a 600Gh/s miner because they missed out and are kicking themselves because of it. Cheesy
2943  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC Miner on: December 02, 2013, 03:33:06 PM
Because its evolve or die, if KnC don't move to 20nm and more powerful rigs then they will be left in the dust.

Basic business sense.

Apparently V1 and V2 blades are EOL and will no longer be made, the last batches are being done now the next ones will be v3 on a new tech. The only way to get new V2 tech at the moment is if you buy a cube.

And you can't compare something like mobile phones where they make millions of the things, Samsung did stop making the Galaxy 3 once they launched the Galaxy 4. They just had so many G3's made and in the distribution channel that it "appears" like they kept on making it.


KNC dosent produce blades

We were talking about ASICMiner blades, keep up  Tongue
2944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 02, 2013, 02:04:45 PM
was someone able to to tune a 8vrm module? it just won't work! Sad tried spi 3.2 and them from down to up, tried default with voltage up and nothing.  Undecided



No, but I did find with my 4 VRM one that putting the volts up too much turned the core off like your Die 2 is showing.

Is that what your trying to do? Get Die 2 up and running?
2945  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow announces 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.49/Ghash on: December 02, 2013, 02:00:18 PM
so if i order today from here, in Feb we get the product 100% ?
where is blackarrow located ?

 Address: https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/about-us-en.html

801, Building 2, Huangduguangchang, Yitian Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, P. R. China, Postcode: 518048

公司地址:广东省深圳市福田区滨河大道与益田路交界东南皇都广场2号楼801 邮编:518048

The domain registra lists the web site owner as:
Yi Tian, Black Arrow LTD, 90 Jaffe Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong

There are both HK and Chinese contact numbers in their "About Us"
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/about-us-en.html

There's lots of other businesses registered at this HK address,
it seems to be office space let in Henan Building, and some companies their may have been scams...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=90+Jaffe+Road+scam

Of course a few bad apples doesn't mean the whole barrel is ruined,
but never risk more than you can afford to lose on pre-orders, it is a speculative investment,
your money is funding the product development, your reward is to get your mining machine
cheaper and earlier than the retail buyer.


I agree that being circumspect is a prerequisite in dealing with ASIC hardware, I was so careful about it I waited until my supplier started manufacturing before jumping in!  Undecided

Now I don't have any stake or money sunk into blackarrow, and don't know more of them other than that they have some track record of building and designing Lancelot FPGAs in the past.

However, registering your domain name at a different address isn't a big deal. And the contact numbers as described on the site are local contact numbers provided as a courtesy to customers so they can make local calls, which are then routed back to the China helpdesk.

So as usual caveat-emptor but I think BA have better credentials than some in the game.
2946  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip on: December 02, 2013, 01:52:52 PM
Anyone got a suggestions for a good PSU for these units? Im UK based so need 240v

Thanks.

Apparently they pull around 375W so a good single rail 600-650W Gold PSU would be my choice.

Something like EVGA SuperNova NEX 650W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply
2947  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow announces 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.49/Ghash on: December 02, 2013, 12:29:37 PM
where is blackarrow located ?

 Address: https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/about-us-en.html

801, Building 2, Huangduguangchang, Yitian Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, P. R. China, Postcode: 518048

公司地址:广东省深圳市福田区滨河大道与益田路交界东南皇都广场2号楼801 邮编:518048
2948  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC Miner on: December 02, 2013, 12:26:56 PM
Because its evolve or die, if KnC don't move to 20nm and more powerful rigs then they will be left in the dust.

Basic business sense.

Apparently ASICminer V1 and V2 blades are EOL and will no longer be made, the last batches are being done now the next ones will be v3 on a new tech. The only way to get new V2 tech at the moment is if you buy a cube.

And you can't compare something like mobile phones where they make millions of the things, Samsung did stop making the Galaxy 3 once they launched the Galaxy 4. They just had so many G3's made and in the distribution channel that it "appears" like they kept on making it.
2949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 02, 2013, 12:21:54 PM
https://www.kncminer.com/?resellerid=277

Here my reseller id, when we have 10 neptunes you will get for each machine you order 10% shareholding on
ghash.io https://cex.io/r/0/fubly/0/ account of the benefit machine.

If you have no account or pool on https://cex.io/r/0/fubly/0/ open one there.

All we need is an feedback that you ordered on there with your order no, so that I can check it on the
reseller portal of KNC which will come soon (told me carl from knc)

Jeez here we go, fubly you realise there is a Marketplace in these forums right?
2950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 02, 2013, 12:17:15 PM
So, can someone explain to me how the tuning suite works? I am literally just guessing at what I am doing....although my Sat. now Jupiter has been hashing at a decent rate, apparently after having tweaked it slightly where I think it needed tweaking....it now seems to have a steadier and slightly higher hashing rate. But some guidance or explanation of what things do and the danger zones would be nice...my 2 satoshis....

SPI Voltate is for the communication chanel I believe.

Underneath that for each asic and for each die you can change the voltage:
0V = no change from the original value.
+value = you increase the voltage from original value
-value = you decrease the voltage from original value

My personal experience is: increasing the PSI voltage to is max settings at 3.3V and then for each die with problems increase its voltage substantially and if it helps then decrease it in small increment to find its lowest possible stable value.


Cypher, thanks. I did realize that lowering the number actually raises the volts....anyway, would like to get more input from other members, especially KNC....

I will have to see if this works with batch 1 miners.

Works with mine, but I am perplexed by the lack of remedial maths skills, I must have been asked about a dozen times WRT to this.

Just so everyone is clear, if the starting voltage is a negative number, moving it closer to zero INCREASES the voltage. Smiley
2951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 01, 2013, 11:21:12 AM
Can someone help me with this info for some calculations:

- How many Jupiters there are in November batch (batch #2)?
- Which percentage of them are already shipped?

I need rough numbers, feel free to estimate and miss 10-20%. Thanks.

Why do you think anyone would be a better guess than you? I think Batch 2 will have the same effect on the network as Batch 1

For Nov to have the same effect as Batch 1, there would have to be 3 times the current hashrate delivered from the end of the 1st shipmemnt.

1st shipment tripled the network from Bitcoins inception.

There is no way Nov is compounding and mirroring that effect.

This is where the Genesis Block calculator is total BS. KnC needs to have doubled the Network again in November, then double that hashrate in December, then double that in January, etc.

Not happening.
Bad wording on my part. I meant the same amount of PH dumped of course it would have less of an effect as the network is bigger since the first batch
2952  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet on: November 30, 2013, 10:30:17 PM
Just received directly from John. It's still hot  Cheesy



Boards should come this next week, so lets hope we see a Babyjet running soon  Wink

Looks like a screenprint stencil? Is it?
2953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 30, 2013, 10:24:51 PM
Can someone help me with this info for some calculations:

- How many Jupiters there are in November batch (batch #2)?
- Which percentage of them are already shipped?

I need rough numbers, feel free to estimate and miss 10-20%. Thanks.

Why do you think anyone would be a better guess than you? I think Batch 2 will have the same effect on the network as Batch 1

I'm not following this thread that close, and I'm not on the KnC Forum, so guessed someone who does that may have seen this info somewhere. Would appreciate if that is the case.

I dont think anyone except KnC knows. They have said they have done over $30,000,000 in orders, so say that the average price between Batch #1 Jupiters, Saturns & Mercuries is $4500 roughly & the Batch#2 Jupiters and Saturns is $4000 so go high and say $5000 is the average price of all the hardware sold (predominantly Jupiters with quite a few Saturns and not many Mercury devices) so 30m / 5k is 6000 units.
2954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 30, 2013, 09:43:41 PM
i really wish KNC would answer their phones once in a awhile....

that boat has sailed..it is like they just waved the white flag and bailed on voice support...I just get an answering machine in Swedish....all it does is make me doubly annoyed in that no longer can you call them voice...and I suddenly want to have a Swedish girlfriend ....
I tried during the account fiasco... and didn't get thru for the first time in half a dozen calls over the past few months...   but others did... Cypher got thu.. and others...  just when the answering machine is on, the line is either busy, or they are closed...  You gotta know by now there are hundreds of people calling every hour trying to talk to KNC...   and during a incident like that...thousands...
It's like trying to be caller #9 on Santana Tickets... lol

During an incident like this, a simple news post to the home page could have stopped a large majority of those calls.

I truly don't understand why it is so hard for any ASIC manufacturer to offer the simplest of communications to their customers.

I get my emails answered within 4-6 hours. Even during the "emergency" yesterday.
2955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 30, 2013, 09:42:48 PM
Can someone help me with this info for some calculations:

- How many Jupiters there are in November batch (batch #2)?
- Which percentage of them are already shipped?

I need rough numbers, feel free to estimate and miss 10-20%. Thanks.

Why do you think anyone would be a better guess than you? I think Batch 2 will have the same effect on the network as Batch 1
2956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 30, 2013, 10:33:51 AM
Out of curiosity. Is there someone among the dudes that preordered neptunes, that has done an actual estimation for difficulty and ROI?

History has proven its a fruitless excercise.
2957  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: I propose we merge custom hardware into mining hardware on: November 30, 2013, 08:41:14 AM
Seeing as the distinction used to be gpu vs other. Why not split it like that, make a gpu mining sub forum and make custom the main forum for hardware
2958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 29, 2013, 06:28:11 PM
Guys I just got my November Jupiter but its asking me for a username and password when I type the IP in my browser.  Does anybody know what to put in for these fields?
admin/admin

Keep up  Tongue
2959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 29, 2013, 06:22:38 PM
Sounds like someone at KnC accidentally the whole database.

I was really hoping to get a tracking number email today.  Oh well.  There's one more day in November yet...

Yeah my November was "In progress" now its showing just "Paid" at least its not showing "Cancelled" anymore Undecided
2960  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: Advanced Mining Technology (AMT) on: November 29, 2013, 06:21:29 PM
I like the concept of using a mITX case and slotting them into the HDD bays. Very creative.  Smiley
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