Just a heads up, dont look for theymos for a solution. The last issue similar to this took 6 months to resolve.
#1 Jude is the original owner.
#2 the new owner paid 0.6 BTC for the account.
#3 Jude can not proof that they did not sell the account themselves.
I will suggest what I suggest last time, meet in the middle, share the loss, as -again- you both are to blame.
The new owner did not properly check that they indeed dealt with the original owner.
The original owner did not properly secure the account.
No, I do not believe I am to blame and here is why... 1. when I purchased the account, who ever was in possession promised the PRIVATE KEY so that the account could not be recovered 2. once the whole .6BTC was sent, I waited for the private key and never received it A signed message can be provided in advance, I would have expected you to ask for one given the high amount of btc you paid. I do not think I could have done anything else to prevent this from happening. I believe it is 100% "Jude Austin's" fault since they did not properly secure their account and now we are both in a loss, with a scammer 0.6BTC in his hands.
I am not giving up the account unless:
A. We both agree to delete all content on it
B. I am reimbursed 0.6BTC
That is fair, I don't see why option A. is such a problem since only a few posts ago he said that it was not the account he wanted, just wanted to protect his reputation.
I dont know about option A, but B is apparently shifting all the blame to original owner and none to you. Its not an agreement or a meeting in the middle, its that you get what you want. Describe how in any way I am to blame for this? You failed to properly check that you dealt with the original owner. You fell for the "I will give you later". For keeping the account in good standing for 2 weeks after 'purchase' and now have to deal with this rubbish?
Sorry but most account sales here, especially for an account of this quality, usually do not last 1 week before they start scamming or taking peoples BTC. I think some credit needs to be given where it is due here that I have done the right thing and continue to do the right thing by cooperating with this member.
I do not see why I should receive any blame for this matter when all I have done is try to cooperate.
Thats not the point. The point is that its very likely that neither of you will get the cake and eat it as well. Meet in the middle or somewhere else you two can agree on. |
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Just a heads up, dont look for theymos for a solution. The last issue similar to this took 6 months to resolve.
#1 Jude is the original owner.
#2 the new owner paid 0.6 BTC for the account.
#3 Jude can not proof that they did not sell the account themselves.
I will suggest what I suggest last time, meet in the middle, share the loss, as -again- you both are to blame.
The new owner did not properly check that they indeed dealt with the original owner.
The original owner did not properly secure the account.
No, I do not believe I am to blame and here is why... 1. when I purchased the account, who ever was in possession promised the PRIVATE KEY so that the account could not be recovered 2. once the whole .6BTC was sent, I waited for the private key and never received it A signed message can be provided in advance, I would have expected you to ask for one given the high amount of btc you paid. I do not think I could have done anything else to prevent this from happening. I believe it is 100% "Jude Austin's" fault since they did not properly secure their account and now we are both in a loss, with a scammer 0.6BTC in his hands.
I am not giving up the account unless:
A. We both agree to delete all content on it
B. I am reimbursed 0.6BTC
That is fair, I don't see why option A. is such a problem since only a few posts ago he said that it was not the account he wanted, just wanted to protect his reputation.
I dont know about option A, but B is apparently shifting all the blame to original owner and none to you. Its not an agreement or a meeting in the middle, its that you get what you want. |
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Ok, so the person who has my account will want BTC.
How do I send him BTC and know that I will get my account back?
I will essentially be getting fucked TWICE.
How can we ensure I will get my account back if I pay this guy?
Use a trusted 3rd party as escrow. |
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The image doesn't prove anything, I think theymos accept only signed message from an old well know bitcoin address that you (or the real owner) used in the past.
No it doesnt, there is no message and no date, but there are enough signed message in the other thread. Theymos will not get involved though, they dont get involved in deals. The two have to find a solution. |
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Hi........I just wanted to give a brief summary of how I was recently scammed......mainly for informational purposes and so others can be on the look-out for this method. I also would like to hear if this is a fairly common way to scam people...or something rather new. I know I will get a lot of ridicule for falling for such a blatant scam............but I thought this could be a learning experience, so hopefully I won't get too many negative comments.  The scammer saw my post and asked me if I had ICQ (trading BTC for prepaid debit card codes) I set up my ICQ, and we negotiated rates, etc. He was very professional, patient, and he said said "I'll go first." (He would start the transaction) He asked me to create a Bitcoin wallet on blockchain.info so he could see that I had the coins ready for trade. So I moved my coins to the blockchain wallet. He then said that since he will be taking the risk by sending the codes first, he would like to view my screen to make sure the code is used properly. (There may have been another reason for this too.) In order to do this....he wanted me to download a program called "Team Viewer" that allowed him "see" my screen in real-time. I downloaded the program "Team Viewer" and started it up ...... he told me he could see my screen, etc......then somehow he asked to see my bitcoin wallet to verify the coins on blockchain. Once I logged into my bitcoin wallet on blockchain........BLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAM....... I saw my bitcoin balance being withdrawn in a flash. END OF STORY So obviously, besides my stupidity, it was the "Team Viewer" program that allowed him to pull off this scam. I'm still not sure how that program works.....for instance, how could it allow him to also be logged into my bitcoin wallet on blockchain??? How could two computers be accessing the same wallet like that? Thanks for any input and hopefully this will help somebody in the future from being scammed in this way. I appreciate any constructive feedback........... No, i think it was a good step to post this since for sure you warned some people to be cautious with teamviewer. What i wanted to know, since you mentioned somewhere that you scammed before, how big of a scammer were you? Since especially i'm interested into knowing if scammers on bitcointalk all play alone for themselves or if they meet in some community or so. Would be interesting to take a look in such a community, maybe watching scams on bitcointalk in realtime. Only an idea. Fancy things you can do with teamviewer: - Black out the remote screen, therefore you need to install a "screen driver" via TeamViewer, depending on the connection that can take 1-2 minutes. - Lock the remote keyboard and mouse The easy and quick way: So lets imagine i am the guy trying to scam you. I tell you: download teamviewer, personally i would send you to the real site www.teamviewer.de or .com (doesnt matter) I will ask you for your teamviewer id and pass, its displayed when you open up TV. I will connect to your system. I will instantly start to install the driver and black your screen in addition once your screen is black lock your keyboard and mouse. No i have from 1 second to 15 minutes, in relation how smart you are, to roam around your pc. if you are using the core client and its open already ill send all you have to my own address. as long as the connection is working i wll start searching for "wallet.dat" and copy each of those files to my system (in case you have other coins i would note which wallets you have installed. if my connection is still working and i was prepared to scam you i might install some nasty tools or start to delete files and maybe uninstall some devices. Sooner or later you might have come to the idea to switch your pc off, disable wireless (if oyu have a button for it) or pull your ethernet cable. If you using something like electrum (what i do) you cant just send coins without a pw. Anyways: NO WAY, coins vanish RIGHT AWAY after a connection is established. i mean the second someone is in. doesnt work that way. op might have downloaded a poisoned teamviewer somewhere but i dont think so. you have to be cautinous about giving stranger access to your pc, no matter how the tool is called. some would be possible with a simple rdp invite. its not the tool to blame, its PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair). Would you do a demo with me? I will prepare a victim VM for you. |
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Just a heads up, dont look for theymos for a solution. The last issue similar to this took 6 months to resolve.
#1 Jude is the original owner.
#2 the new owner paid 0.6 BTC for the account.
#3 Jude can not proof that they did not sell the account themselves.
I will suggest what I suggest last time, meet in the middle, share the loss, as -again- you both are to blame.
The new owner did not properly check that they indeed dealt with the original owner.
The original owner did not properly secure the account.
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I need someone to create me two emails on openmailbox.org cause my isp do not let me enter that website.
I will pay 0.001 BTC for this service.
PLEASE PM.
Thanks.
Send me a PM with the names/mails you want. |
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That's just the way it is... Your file is huge. Time for a new one (or a bigger machine... although the software might not be able to handle such a large file even with big resources.) An example on wallet.dat size impact... I don't know how you are patient to sync it  (or maybe you have it on 24/7) Lets see: | | | | ~size | | | #TX | | fresh | | | 96KB | | | 0 | | regular | | | 2MB | | | ~300 | | spam[1] | | | 421MB | | | 195508 |
[1] its the ~100 leaked private keys related to the spam attack. I opened and resynced it just for this thread which took me ~7 hours. Bitcoin core acts very slow with such a big wallet file. It was ~110 MB before opening it, most of the time was resyncing. Nice digging, I actually cant open the spam file anymore. Not sure why, but core just hangs itself. From the log OP posted it looks like they cranked up their keypool for some reason. 2016-02-06 17:03:37 keypool reserve 54500
What does the debug.log say directly after you start the wallet? There should be something like this: 2016-02-05 05:50:07 init message: Loading wallet...
2016-02-05 05:50:07 nFileVersion = 110200
2016-02-05 05:50:07 Keys: 0 plaintext, xxx encrypted, xxx w/ metadata, xxx total
Alternativly, what does getwalletinfo return for keypoolsize? |
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I see, well, dont print out sensitive info with 3rd party printers ever.
There are many shops that offer printing services, but one has to be a fool to print out sentitive data with them.
Only use your own printer (not even your neighbors) to print out sensitive data.
I agree, but I think thats where the fear printers might store the data comes from. If someone uses a printer at home and think it might still have sensetive data on it, they could just destroy the printer once its lifetime ended. I also doubt home use printers will have hard disks as they have next to no need to store a large amount of data and it would only increase the price per device. You can always check the vendor's site and see what specs the printer have, my printer only has a cache that clears every poweroff (worse case scenario after 2 printings). So if 1 print out a password, I can then print out a photo aftewards and the cache is overwritten. I`m not sure why any other printer has hard disks, it has no sense, you can just store the config of the printer on your OS with the printing software that you got with the printer. No need to put separate harddisk in the printer itself. Its very insecure architecture then, Im talking about something like this  they will store large amounts data and transfer (or recieve them) over a network connection. Sometimes from several users at once and significantly over 100 pages. A harddisk is just a cheap way to store that data. Due to the nature of harddisks the data is available from a long time after it was needed last (unless overwritten). |
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-snip- - Yes the audience are technical people who want to run python scripts. - IMHO you should add a number of recipients though, right now you assume a single (+ change) output : Yes, good suggestion , I can add a parameter to specify number of recipients - It doesn't use all inputs , it selects input based on tx priority . I already mentioned that in my previous post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1353503.msg13785664#msg13785664. The algorithm is similar to what electrum does, I am open to adding more algorithm which can mirror other wallets Alright, I probably misread the source, python is not my strongest language. I understand there may be less demand for this kind of script as already some wallets have dynamic tx fee suggestion. Just wanted to contribute and put it out there.The plan is to add multiple tx fee suggestion by using cointape API. Wallet would normally just recommend only one fess. An technical user can use this script to his advantage. Anymore suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
I like that idea a lot, mainly because different wallets have different ways to select inputs. If your script could predict them reliable that would be very interesting. There might be significant differences in the resulting fee. |
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Might have been another update, but they link 32/64-bit windows/linux, osx and the source code same as with all other implementations, besides unlimited, because they apparently lack a osx version.
It would make sense to provide better information since that is the purpose of the website. Well as you said its pretty obvious that they have a specific agenda or stance towards the different implementations. IMHO a log scale would be nice, because you can hardly see the other implementations besides core.
Yes. Even though the colors help with that, the others are barely visible. It would also be nice to know which version are the users running though. The pie chart is handy for that, but it lacks the development over time. |
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We dont know, I have read some rumours that there was a flood that he might have been affected by, but someone else said that it was in a different place. He does not answer on twitter nor is he active there.
Flood is not rumour. During this december, some parts of tamil nadu in india were affected by heavy flood. But seems MZ belongs to kerala side, there is no flood on kerala AFAIK. Yes, I probably wrote that a bit more complicated that it needed to be. Otherwise he might be busy with some other work and forgotted about the loan (the link mentioned above) brcause IMO, he'll not scam for this small amount?
I doubt he just forgot, I dont think he is the kind of person that just forgets their duty. On the other hand I only know them from here, so I might very well be wrong about this. Until the loan is repaid their reputation however is ruined. |
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There's only a single link related to the main implementation. If it was the other way around we would never hear the end of: "censorship, bias, manipulation, etc.". These things are pretty obvious if you pay enough attention.
Might have been another update, but they link 32/64-bit windows/linux, osx and the source code same as with all other implementations, besides unlimited, because they apparently lack a osx version. IMHO a log scale would be nice, because you can hardly see the other implementations besides core.  |
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Negative for scammers, neutral for all others.
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We dont know, I have read some rumours that there was a flood that he might have been affected by, but someone else said that it was in a different place. He does not answer on twitter nor is he active there.
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Hi Please read : http://bitcoinf.org/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=13Sorry for messing with your account, I didn't know it was hacked, glad you recovered it and its in your hands now I bought it from a guy, and I didn't change anything on it only made that post I bought it for the sole purpose to advertise my forum, to recruit staff who did you bought it from? I bought it a really long time ago, I don't remember, it was on skype for sure he had his status "selling bitcointalk accounts" I also removed many people from my contact lists he was one of them because I only keep my friends now on skype Later edit : I never changed the password or the e-mail. I didn't feel it was necessary... I trusted the seller also I believe he also bought it and resold it Are you serious? You didnt change the password for an account you bought from a person you just removed from your skype list because you hardly know them? With that sense for security I would suggest anyone stay miles away from your forum. |
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Never said that length is similar to quality, that would be stupid of me!
But that a short answer can always be transformed into a longer one and you'll always have a better one.
Better in what sense if not in quality? My answer is misleading you find?
Yes, there is no scrypt in bitcoin. I'll learn something and the user asking the original question will have more elements. It's a win-win for me  And key presses are expensive in time. I'm pretty sure lots of sig spammer posting only 20 characters answers or even less do it only because they want to maximize profit. I find it a good way to counter them is to put a base characters limit. I disagree. I dont think you are correct. I think your assumption is false and your conclusions are faulty. None of these version costs me significant time to write. The thing that takes time is thinking about the answer and understanding your post. Neither is something you can enforce with requesting any number of symbols. But you're right in the fact that contrary to captchas it does change the message. I just have the feeling it can't really change it in a bad way and can't think of a situation where it would be. Maybe I also lack imagination If you cant see how a long chain words that say nothing is bad, I cant help you. |
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According to what one of the goals of bitcoin should be - decentralize also the wealth, do you think that's happening?
Where did you get that idea from? Maybe based on breaking some threashold by price, marked cap or account number ?
I'd do that :-)
Why wait? You can give to the poor now. |
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