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2941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 23, 2014, 01:09:25 AM
Interesting fact is that the top 100 wallets hold ~50% of the coins.  I guess this is similar to Bitcoin and Litecoin in the early days and to a lesser extent now.  There seems to be plenty of demand for this coin even at 4000+ sat levels, but also people are willing to sell and take profits at this level.  I must admit I kicked myself for not selling a couple of days ago when it spiked to 4300 as I could have rebought back in at 2500.

I am so surprised that Cryptsy haven't listed this coin yet with the huge volumes it is getting on Mintpal.

Also take a look at Darkcoin, this coin is a sleeping giant and I hold a few blocks worth for long term, but there seems to be no volume to it at the moment.  I think this is because miners are stockpiling.  It is definitely bucking the trend of most of the altcoins on the market (downward trend straight to the bottom).   HeavyCoin also.

Heavycoin - got my vote on + // their algorythm is the best much faster than Darkcoin 5x faster and more anergy efecient.
My ring on scrypt 1600W
Darkcoin 1200W
HeavyCoin 750W

heavy is hurted because some people who made GPU miner they prbably mined before they have relised GPU miner and they have dumped large amounts of HVC on market.
heavy coin have much more effective algorithm than scrypt n or X11.
Not many GPU miners know even about Heavy... GPU miner have 5 days Cheesy ? Official version 3days?
IMO heavy like Vert and dark can rebuild position but all copy script are domed.
With Heavy you can vote to cut supply if price is going down this is feature ^^
Anyway i am happy that  BC is off from those problems.

PS:Coinwarz should change name to "coinstodump" it works that way. Sad,
When i see coin on top coinwars usualy that mean price fall. Even LTC.
2942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 23, 2014, 12:58:35 AM
Hi all, glad to see the coin's doing well.

Just wondering if anybody else has had an issue with not being able to see their full balance in the BC wallet? I know the amount of coin's getting staked is taken out of your balance and sit's in the 'Stake area' until the process is done, but I'm somehow missing ~1000 coins from my wallet completely.

I mined these in the first week and have not touched them since, a few days ago the balance was 10498 BC, now it is 9789 like what you see here:
http://imgur.com/Wsi1j7K

Here's my address on explorer:
http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/address/B4ZLvUXinKtXmnop4D4NvHWqetcecaTdQm
http://agran.net/bc_getbalance.php?addr=B4ZLvUXinKtXmnop4D4NvHWqetcecaTdQm

Do I have something to worry about?

Do not worry.

1. If not using it already, use the latest wallet version (v1.0.3)
2. Sync again your wallet by deleting blockchain and downloading it again.

I think you will be fine.

I had this problem, but you just need to go to your appdata folder and remove everything but the wallet.dat file.  Then reload the wallet and it will download the new blockchain and refresh your balance.  If you enter your wallet id here (http://agran.net/bc_getbalance.php?top=100) you should see your actual balance.
http://agran.net/bc_getbalance.php?top=10000

When you add "00" you will get more positions Smiley
2943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 22, 2014, 05:24:48 PM
Grin Blackcoin to da moon
Okay boyz and girlz price 4000+ Cheesy
2944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | Launched | scrypt | PoS | No premine on: March 22, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
Ok guys so you were right. I was wrong to sell my 50k for 1 btc as it's at 1.2btc today.  But my question is why? Why is everyone going retarded about a coin that can't be used for anything but trading it in for btc.  I'm not trying to trash the coin I swear.  The OP says this is 1% Nominal yearly interest.  So my 50k would be 50,500 in 365 days.  Why does that suddenly make it worth more than any other coin I have ever mined?  At the end of the day it's just another way to get to BTC.  Am I missing something?  It cost me 3 days of electricity... for $600....  Someone please make a Black Coin everyday so I don't have to mine piggycoin and flappycoin, Thanks.  

-Very Concerned.
It's a new coin, exchanges and services will be available in the future ofc.
The community here is big, very big!


108 pages is nothing compare to other coins

Only gonna get bigger, coin is still less than a week old, has good value and is profitable to mine unlike a lot of coins that get dumped too hard and destroy the value by flooding the market
102 of them in 3 days  Cheesy


Ok, So i'm not going to get a real answer then? I have mined 2 other coins that had 100 posts within 4 days.  They are top coin... at 3-9sat, and flappy at 2-9sat.  Obviously their reward was much higher per block so that's not what i'm getting at at all.  This coin is currently $100/day to mine at 5Mh/s when every other coin is $40ish. WHY.  Why doesn't everyone make a blackcoin clone everyday.  Why is this coin so expensive. I don't understand.  It has no use other than to trade for BTC.
1st new good looking diffrent concept 0 premine this attrackt me here.
.....
You will have whole eternity to mine your flappy Cheesy... But Blackcoin you won't have to much chance.
Black is 1st for me big POS becouse of lack premine and intresting rewad with random stack it won't make allays rich more richest...

...



Mayby today he know why BC was so expensive at beginig Cheesy.
1BTC for 50k  ^^
I told him to not sell he didn't listened Cheesy haha.
I wanted use that reply someday.
And answer is simple Blackcoin like Doge or BTC can be only ONE ^^.
I love that guy questions.


PS: Sry i was wrong about "mining BC " never again.
2945  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 22, 2014, 04:40:56 PM
Can I get a link to read more about the multipool?

Wondering how it's going to work. Too lazy to search this gigantic thread.
https://twitter.com/BlackCoinPool
all info links
2946  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 22, 2014, 02:57:36 PM
Can someone can tell me what's the address of the new BlackHole pool ?

http://www.bcpool.co/

or

http://blackcoinpool.com/


Huh?

Hi Ziploc, BlackCoinPool.com is the officially supported BC pool. BCPool.co (which was renamed BlackCoinMiner.com) was created and is maintained by me.

Ok thx for the info...is the BlackCoinMiner.com having the same concept as the Black Hole ?

ie: multimine and pay in BC ?
I think yes - now they mine eg. Lotto.
With more Mhs they can swap to other coin.
2947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [HVC] Heavycoin - Ultra-secure, Decentralized Block Reward Voting, Fast on: March 22, 2014, 02:50:35 PM
How minting works ?
2948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT overtakes doge coin on: March 22, 2014, 02:25:41 PM
XbladeX,

are you dumb or stupid or both?

NXT devs are working now to introduce sending fractional amounts into code and lower fee to 0.1 for starters and in the future keep it equal to or lower than bitcoin fee. I said that in one of the threads to you, but you keep repeating bullshit. Are you on agenda?
I want see result.
Now you just talk about it.

"I said that in one of the threads to you, but you keep repeating bullshit."
I just point you weakness of that system and 1Nxt fee is fact i don't lie.

Lower fees will hurt big holders and small holders.
For NXT it will be better to have even 0.001 fee.
Initial IPO investors will sold out coins and distribution will be better in long run.
But bad side of it will be slower development because today high fees can give devs money and they can afford to full time development later
it will be harder to keep such good cash flow. You lower fees 10x,100x you need 10x,100x higher volume ^^.
But this is possible.
2949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT overtakes doge coin on: March 22, 2014, 02:10:45 PM
Well that should have happened a lot sooner.  Grin I think with the new mining pools (that allow miners to get NXT) we are going to see an all time high here soon.

If NXT's history holds true, I'm anticipating a doubling over the next couple of days. (Take that all you crappy copy/paste coins.  Cheesy)


The market has an incredible way of sifting out chaff from the wheat, which is why I wish people didnt try to take things into their own unsofisticated hands to get rid of shit coins.

Seconded.
NXT coin is like mine and hold and never spend is that real currency ?
When your precious  1 NXT will cost hmm 1$ who will buy anything with that.
Can you see NXT popular ? more than Doge ? cost od using NXT are to big.

You know biggest advantage over NXT, POW copy coins is cheap in using it.
When 1BTC cost 1000$ you can pay 0.01$ for transfer
When 1NXT cost 1000$ you can pay hmm 1000$ for transfer 1 NXT - yea true deal.
...At some point in long run you will pay more for transfer than you will mine NXT Cheesy lolz.
NXT transaction fee system is just croken in that matter BTC,LTC can go 1000x high in price
in same time NXT can't you will block your ming when 30% of minig profit will be cost of transaction this is so retared.
At the end of story who will use such coin in future...
When you lower that fee you will screw those little miners because you will brake rules during game.
That is why inflation system in POS like in BC,Cash is much better than fixed cap.

Anyway good luck with pool.
I just wonder when that fee will stop you from mining NXT Cheesy

Anyway good luck.

PS: Devs or those initial 72 investor will be happy for sure ^^.Go donate them with your hashrate ^^


BUT LOOK AT VOLUME NXT AND DOGE TO SEE power of those coins which is winner.
Doge - $ 1,203,506
Nxt- $ 207,153
2950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Giving all my DOGE away on: March 22, 2014, 01:34:09 PM
DTDQm8QUihEmi3rBL9fU3BA2Nog1dVgtri
thank you
i love Doge coin i sold mine at 30sat i was so stupid ; (
2951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 22, 2014, 10:57:37 AM
Did you add the coins in balance + the coins in stake?

This sum is your total.


There are no coins in the stake field.  Just 103k in the balance...  That's the issue
You have to be lucky to get stake
2952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 22, 2014, 03:43:59 AM

On the contrary, distribution lately has been coming out of the top 20, flowing more into small and mid-sized wallets.
Anyway those top guys are preventing others who wanted just get into on 1000-2000 to dump asap.
I respect those few top investors they have putted about 50-300 BTC / each in this coin.
Guys it is not like NXT when for 21 btc few guys bought whole stack Cheesy available for sell...
You just need to know some difference.

I agree with your general take, but not sure I understand your numbers. 50-300btc each? 300 btc would buy roughly 9 million Blackcoin.
True i made mistake.
buying 1m at average price 2000 is 20BTC // Most volume we had at 2000-5000 range so cost of 1m is was between 20-50 BTC.
If someone on top there have about 3m BC he paid about 20-150 BTC for that IPO.
Good to have some big players.
2953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 22, 2014, 02:17:18 AM

On the contrary, distribution lately has been coming out of the top 20, flowing more into small and mid-sized wallets.
Anyway those top guys are preventing others who wanted just get into on 1000-2000 to dump asap.
I respect those few top investors they have putted about 50-300 BTC / each in this coin.
Guys it is not like NXT when for 21 btc few guys bought whole stack Cheesy available for sell...
You just need to know some difference.
2954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sorry NXT, but is anyone else making a 100% PoS / No-mining altcoin? on: March 22, 2014, 02:05:46 AM
At what demonstrable level of distribution would people be happier with NXT?



Guess what? NOW is an excellent time to buy. NXT is more than 50% off its highs.   Or keep waiting and sulk and look for a NXT clone that wants you to trade in your BTC or NXT for their coin . That should tell you something right there.


Good point. Smiley "Give us your NXT and we'll give you a shitty clone of it"



There is few things that deter me from NXT:
- access to NXT founds just by password lucky brute force attack and you have no coins...
- 1 NXT fee // higher price of next brigs ridiculous fee 1NXT should never cost eg. 100$ who will pay 100$ for transfer
- Distribution
- if i invest in NXT eg. 1000$ like in mining ring to mine in POS i will be fucked up when Devs will lower fee to 0.1 or 0.01 my mining will be 10x/100x lower

in such situation i would go check BC(i am in) or NEM
-"NEM's code bases will be re-written completely from the scratch."
-"A novel method Proof of Importance forging that rewards the nodes that re most important to the network, not the nodes with the biggest number of NEM."
personally i don't like situation when Big are becoming more bigger it don't cause healthy cash flow.
- NEM is was distributed into 3000+ accounts on bittalk in IPO (in reality i think that was about 2000+)
- i like IPO , people are risking few bucks for profit

I like NXT concept but for being deflationary currency it will be just to expensive to use it in long run.
That is why in POS i think small inflation is better and can be solution to avoid such ridiculous fees.
I like POS with BC 1% inflation or (1%-10%) Cash concept with POS without fees.
Generally in that matter crypto is looking for balance we will see how HBN/PPC/BC/Mint/CASH/NXT/NEM will deal with market and problems.





2955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 21, 2014, 10:50:26 PM
Can anyone help with this? I just built blackcoind to try it out. After a few hours, I'm sync'ed with the blockchain, as the last timestamp is 03/21/14 22:03:20...one minute ago... but I'm still getting "error: no response from server" when I issue commands.

This is running under ubuntu 12.10. Still occasionally flushing the wallet, but it's not loading any new blocks except as they come out it seems. When I built it I had to run apt-get install libdb++-dev instead of the suggested lib (but it compiled, so I doubt that's the issue).

I'm kind of at a loss.
http://blackcointalk.com
PLS post there your problem.
Dev will help you.
If none here know solution.
2956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sorry NXT, but is anyone else making a 100% PoS / No-mining altcoin? on: March 21, 2014, 10:36:33 PM
Check out ECC and MINT. BC is a conspiracy so maybe buy in after the dump.
What's BC conspiracy? Also can someone explain how the every 8 hours compound interest work? Does my BC client have to be on once every 8 hours? Or continuously?
IMO when you can't find some serious arguments to hit competitor just best way is spared FUDs...

Eg like that with Quark 98% premine / Bug in BTC protocool (MTGox).

I am in BC form beginning i can't see any conspiracy there...
Rather people are working hard to make forward 0%premine coin and this is hardest part of that "conspiracy"...

______________________

8 hours compound interest work?

To support network and reward you you have chance to get earlier reward than 1%  at the end of year.
Once you don't touch balance for 8h your coins are getting chance for stack.
Receiving stack earlier you have only by heaving online wallet unlocked or not password protected.
You get part of 1% annual interest. Everyday eg when you have 50k BC you will get ~0,05 in 3-4-6h intervals.
More days you wait more coins you will get.
There is no max age for coin. So you can get 2% after opening wallet after 2 years.

Chance of getting stack is connected with weights more days your coin is sitting in wallet?

Yes it looks it works that way.You has chance you will be chosen to stack.
Chance/weight depends on how many you have, how much wait  - to balance system.
I will try find formula later i forgot it was written on forum.


Does my BC client have to be on once every 8 hours? Or continuously?
To get  compound interest you need to be online this feature is for POS miners supporting network.
To get only 1% interest you don't have to.

To get 1%,2%,3% annual you just go online once a year or 2 or 3 years...
But you will get 1%(after 1 year)-2%(after 2 years)-3%(after 3 years) from starting amount when you go again online. / There is no max age.
If you hit stake more often you get more BC overall.
Not big amounts of BC but always something.
2957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 21, 2014, 09:28:51 PM
Can someone explain how the 1% interest works? Do I have to keep my client open every 8 hours or continuously for highest chance?
And yes you have higher chance when you have wallet open to get part of 1% interest, your weight is increasing all time.
When i had about 50k BC i got about 0,05BC in every 3-4-6h....
Generally idea is that if you are lucky or you have many coins inside your income is like that:
1 day 1% * (1/365) 1000 BC = 1000,05
2 day 1% * (1/365) 1000,05 BC ~

____________
worst case VERY unluky at the end of year
365 - 1000 = 1010BC
____________

Anyway small intervals are good for POS miners because all blocks are mine now by POS get some small amount of BC.
Small amounts - but i like receive even that 0.05 Day : D  for supporting network.

Anyway in POS while mining can get extra BC from fees.

With so low amounts of BC paying out you are not able to flood market even those guys with eg 500k+ they can't flood market...
But some reward is necessary to maintain network with full POS system. Imo 8h intervals are pretty good Smiley you don't need to wait 20 days / or 365(always online like ULTRA Cheesy )
Big stakeholders can't flood and those small too.
 
2958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT coin - A total scam? on: March 21, 2014, 02:48:17 PM
Even NXT is a great coin it will still fail just because of its extremely unfair distribution. The developer should blame himself to use this terrible distribution process. For pure POS coin, fair distribution plays a big part in these coins success.

why? distribution by a small group of miners right now more and more centalized in Iceland facilities and huge GPU / ASIC farms is unfair

Distribution by the cuckoo728 proof of work would be pretty fair, and low-power to boot.

That uses 7GB of memory (with no trade-off for time) which doesn't fit in any GPU card,
let alone ASIC. So anyone with a high-end desktop can mine this.
Or anyone willing to rent some cloudservers.

At the same time, botnets will not dare run anything using so much memory as it
will send computers into swap-hell, killing performance and alerting their owners.

It's also very power friendly since 95% of runtime is memory latency.

See https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo for details.
So we have winner for few month with distribution till it will be popular.
2959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT coin - A total scam? on: March 21, 2014, 02:36:07 PM
nxt has a chance to be a great equalizer.  it is still cheap now and anybody can buy it.  if anybody wants to know why nxt is better (or will be soon) than any other coin out there, please read and do research.  
Ok bro NXT cost 1000$ what you can buy for it ?
 House swimming pool ? Tank.... Airplane... remember you have 1NXT fee... always.
2960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT coin - A total scam? on: March 21, 2014, 02:32:52 PM
Even NXT is a great coin it will still fail just because of its extremely unfair distribution. The developer should blame himself to use this terrible distribution process. For pure POS coin, fair distribution plays a big part in these coins success.

why? distribution by a small group of miners right now more and more centalized in Iceland facilities and huge GPU / ASIC farms is unfair

All depend when and in what conditions you are trying distribute.

Current the best option is POW and IPO like NEM...
Even Gpu farms they are doing that for $...
Generaly farms destroy value of coins in same time they detroy value of work of devs working on it.
In other side they just pust large volume on market and flood it and others can get in.

Hoever even POW like 10day-BC or 30day0 Mint can give you 3000+ new POS users...
NEM IPO mayby less because double,triple.. ipo buyers.
Anyway probably about 2000+ usesers...

That reminds me quark it was mined in 98%... in six months but after mining price was 300-50 sat...
When jumped to 10000 all called it scam... and premine but in reality it wasn't 75% of all coins in 5 months...
Nowdays people are changing minds about long minig... New fast mined coins are acceptable look just on Doge...
But all are put shit on Quark lol while Doge(i like it ) is pretty the same in that matter.
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