Common sense approach. You bet a marathon top 100. Five runners tie for 100, do you give a reduction to players 1-99? The rules are universal and you are misapplying dead heat rules.
Ties occur a lot in top 5 and top 10 and should be graded universally.
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Peeps- No one is going to take you seriously with your chart when you have Anonibet listed as an "A" book. Come on man. We all know you're on their payroll but you shouldn't make it that obvious lol Put the books you grade in ascending order; not alphabetical.
However, if you were to take my advice, the 2 books that pay you the most wouldn't have the privilege of the outside columns ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Anonibet and Nitrogen don't offer boxing. This I know for a fact. DirectBet does but you don't like them.. Other than that, looks pretty good! Sometimes books don't list the sport if they don't have any lines up for the sport. I'll check the two that you listed. I do agree that the books should be listed by rating and will change it.
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Sorry to jump in again but the only reduction occurs on the player's tied for 5th with top 5. A 1/2 reduction............... The poster should wins top 5 without reduction and top 10 without reduction.
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Peeps, try to get in touch with cointeller.eu. They are an agent like Asiaconnect but I heard they don't require any ID. I'd love to know what books they have access to.
BetUsDirect ABC Islands ABC Wagering Instant Action WagerDM BetOasis 1BetVegas Jazz Deportes GoToHCC Vrapo Some of these sites are books and others are agents.
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Thanks Jetwin. Any others?
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Thanks John. For the Bonus I'll put that under rebate. Anymore mistakes out there before I update the spread sheet?
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Add Asianconnect88 to NR. They are agents for SBOBet, Pinnacle, Matchbook, IBCBet and Singbet. I don't know much about them but a poster has written that they required personal information. This seems strange since bitcoin agents are normally created as a back door to get into these books. Quote: Originally Posted by CappieP View Post a way for U.S.-based bettors to get into Pinny. Sounds like a freeroll waiting to happen.
Quote: Originally Posted by CappieP View Post Dude on SBR just posted a complaint, saying they asked for standard documentation (utility bills, etc.) That surprised me. They take bitcoin but are not a bitcoin book in that sense.
Quote: Originally Posted by CappieP View Post Also they boast about taking bets via Skype, which makes me wonder if connectivity problems are common. Especially would want to know the Live Betting option worked if going through an AC created account. This is for getting around sites being blocked (some countries censor gambling sites) and to circumvent other restrictions.
Quote: Originally Posted by CappieP View Post I also don't understand how they can offer Matchbook. I can see them having an affiliate deal with Pinnacle and booking what they don't send there, but Matchbook seems like a different animal.
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Warning : Peeps Place "Ratings Guide" is not a true ratings guide but rather a disguised paid advertisement. Ratings are paid for. If you go to www.PeepsPlace.com you will see that the 3 Bitcoin Sportbooks that pay him for banners are the ones on top of his "ratings guide". This is not a coincidence. Peeps Place is also operating his "ratings guide" from a self moderated thread. This is a tactic that is employed by scammers and it allows him to delete posts that he does not want you to see. For a more accurate ratings, check out the sport books rankings by users thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0 Take what DirectBet says with a grain of salt. 4 books have banners at peepsplace and they are rated "A", "B+", "B-" and "C+" here at bitcointalk. DirectBet is the only person banned because of 4 months of spamming. Posts from others haven't been deleted or edited. With the ratings at the other site, DirectBet was ranked #9 until a lot of DirectBet shills showed up near the same time giving high ratings to DirectBet.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzkjORvQ.jpg&t=663&c=vs7o1I0hshQh2A) I'll clean this up later. "D" and "F" books not included. Please point our errors.
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different rules on bitcoin sportbooks
Roger- I'm not sure what you mean by different rules.
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Warning : Peeps Place "Ratings Guide" is not a true ratings guide but rather a disguised paid advertisement. Ratings are paid for. If you go to www.PeepsPlace.com you will see that the 3 Bitcoin Sportbooks that pay him for banners are the ones on top of his "ratings guide". This is not a coincidence. Peeps Place is also operating his "ratings guide" from a self moderated thread. This is a tactic that is employed by scammers and it allows him to delete posts that he does not want you to see. For a more accurate ratings, check out the sport books rankings by users thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0 Agree with you, I won't trust Peeps Place anymore because it rate by founded year LOL with that ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I like to use Jetwin for collecting bonus DirectBet for live betting with no registration required and NitrogenSports for best odds. BEWARE Anonibet they scam me from World Cup 2014 meme contest!!! It may seem that books are rated based upon time in business but that's just the case since bitcoinbooks are so new. After a 2 year period, longevity won't matter. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzkjORvQ.jpg&t=663&c=vs7o1I0hshQh2A)
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"A" and "B" books are recommended. Their are some "C" books that are personally recommended. The longevity of some "C" books haven't allowed them for upgrades in the rating's guide. It's advisable to stay away from 1 and 2 men shops open less than one year. The majority seem to go under. The following have all gone under with our funds:
BlockBet Bit365 StakeBet Bitbook Bitcoinlivebets
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Sports currently being offered
Anonibet A (2011): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Motorsport, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Futsal, Boxing, MMA, Live Betting, Live Chat, Casino, Up to 10% back on losses.
NitrogenSports B+ (2012) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, MMA, E-Sports, Ciricket, Golf, Rugby, Table Tennis, Exchange, Lowest hold.
Betcoinsports B- (2013): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Boxing, MMA, Handball, Live Betting, Casino, Live Casino, Poker
Casinobitcoin B- (2013): Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, MMA, Boxing, Casino
Cloudbet C+ (2013) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, Cricket, Handball, Volleyball, Live Betting, Bonus.
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) : Agent
Jetwin C (2013) : Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Winter Sports, Darts, Handball, Futsal, Snooker, Volleyball, Aussie Rules, Cycling, Rugby, Golf, Motorsports, Bonus.
BetOWI C- (2014) * : Football, Soccer, Baseball, Soccer, Tennis, Golf, MMA, Boxing, Auto Racing
BetVIP C- (2014) : Soccer, Tennis, Basketball, Aussie Rules, Baseball, Cycling, Darts, Futsal, Golf, Handball, Hockey, Motorsports, Live Betting. US players banned.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coindraft D+ (2014) Roadbet D+ (2012) Webetcoins D+ (2014) Gobetgo D+ (2014) Bitbm D+
"F" rated books BetCas F Bitcoinsport F Bitcoinlivebets F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC F Blockbet F Bitbook
NR Darkbet Betmoose Fairlay Cointeller xbet.io Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports Predictious tdsports betxcp Bitcoinvegas betabit altbetfair finalstake
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
Players and books: Please correct any errors. thanks
"* longer accepting cash deposits" ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ?? BetOWI opened in 2011 but didn't accept bitcoins until 2014.
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Sports currently being offered
Anonibet A (2011): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Motorsport, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Futsal, Boxing, MMA, Live Betting, Live Chat, Casino, Up to 10% back on losses.
NitrogenSports B+ (2012) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, MMA, E-Sports, Ciricket, Golf, Rugby, Table Tennis, Exchange, Lowest hold.
Betcoinsports B- (2013): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Boxing, MMA, Handball, Live Betting, Casino, Live Casino, Poker
Casinobitcoin B- (2013): Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, MMA, Boxing, Casino
Cloudbet C+ (2013) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, Cricket, Handball, Volleyball, Live Betting, Bonus.
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) : Agent
Jetwin C (2013) : Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Winter Sports, Darts, Handball, Futsal, Snooker, Volleyball, Aussie Rules, Cycling, Rugby, Golf, Motorsports, Bonus.
BetOWI C- (2014) * : Football, Soccer, Baseball, Soccer, Tennis, Golf, MMA, Boxing, Auto Racing
BetVIP C- (2014) : Soccer, Tennis, Basketball, Aussie Rules, Baseball, Cycling, Darts, Futsal, Golf, Handball, Hockey, Motorsports, Live Betting. US players banned.
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"A" rated booksAnonibet A (2011) "B"rated booksNitrogenSports B+ (2012) Betcoinsports B- (2013) Casinobitcoin B- (2013) "C" rated booksSBObitcoin C+ (2013) * Cloudbet C+ (2013) Jetwin C (2013) BetOWI C- (2014) * BetVIP C- (2014) "D" rated books Coindraft D+ (2014) Roadbet D+ (2012) Webetcoins D+ (2014) Gobetgo D+ (2014) Bitbm D+ "F" rated booksBetCas F Bitcoinsport F Bitcoinlivebets F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC F Blockbet F Bitbook NRDarkbet Betmoose Fairlay Cointeller xbet.io Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports Predictious tdsports betxcp Bitcoinvegas betabit altbetfair finalstake * longer accepting cash deposits Maximum grade based upon time in business: A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0
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Sports currently being offered
Anonibet A (2011): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Motorsport, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Futsal, Boxing, MMA, Live Betting, Live Chat, Casino, Up to 10% back on losses.
NitrogenSports B+ (2012) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, MMA, E-Sports, Ciricket, Golf, Rugby, Table Tennis, Exchange, Lowest hold.
Betcoinsports B- (2013): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Boxing, MMA, Handball, Live Betting, Casino, Live Casino, Poker
Casinobitcoin B- (2013): Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, MMA, Boxing, Casino
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) : Agent
Cloudbet C+ (2013) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, Cricket, Handball, Volleyball, Live Betting, Bonus.
Jetwin C (2013) : Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Winter Sports, Darts, Handball, Futsal, Snooker, Volleyball, Aussie Rules, Cycling, Rugby, Golf, Motorsports, Bonus.
BetOWI C- (2014) * : Football, Soccer, Baseball, Soccer, Tennis, Golf, MMA, Boxing, Auto Racing
BetVIP C- (2014) : Soccer, Tennis, Basketball, Aussie Rules, Baseball, Cycling, Darts, Futsal, Golf, Handball, Hockey, Motorsports, Live Betting. US players banned.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coindraft D+ (2014) Roadbet D+ (2012) Webetcoins D+ (2014) Gobetgo D+ (2014) Bitbm D+
"F" rated books BetCas F Bitcoinsport F Bitcoinlivebets F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC F Blockbet F Bitbook
NR Darkbet Betmoose Fairlay Cointeller xbet.io Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports Predictious tdsports betxcp Bitcoinvegas betabit altbetfair finalstake
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
Players and books: Please correct any errors. thanks
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Christ Peeps. You are literally the most annoying person in this gambling forum.
All you do is harass DirectBet. Fuck dude. Leave them alone. I had a pretty serious issue with them and they solved everything efficiently and to my preference. I posted about my problem and you jump on it to private message me and find out what's going on. FUCKING CREEPY DUDE.
What is your obsession with DirectBet? No one trusts or looks at your reviews so why do you bother doing this?
Approx 38,000 views if I remember correctly. Posters were the ones that helped determine what books were having problems. I ask everyone with a problem what is happening. It's an early warning system and they get posted if believable. I won't reply again. I'll leave DirectBet alone.
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Edit- I don't want to get into this right now.
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This is where it started. It was April after I wrote this. . There are a lot of good things about DirectBet. I think your biggest advantage is keeping live lines up at all times, not just during commercial breaks. I think that your biggest downfall is that your odds aren't competitive compared to other books. I'm talking full game just prior to the game starting. Also, your advantage of keeping live lines up at all times diminishes with a huge hold. This includes the 1% affiliate reduction. At a site such as Peepsplace where posters are familiar with each other, the 1% is just a buddy bonus. I give you 1%, you give me 1%. If your book has a hold of 8% the reduction does make it 7% with a buddy bonus or legitimate affiliate arrangement. That is considered.
It's going to take a little bit longer to get the new ratings up for the books. I can address all your points at that time since comparisons can be made. Most books will get lower ratings. There have been too many books that have gone under. A common denominator is a small staff. It seems all the one and two man operations go under. Blockbet, Bit365, Stakebet and Bitbook all small operations.
The ratings are not an exact science. If all books were opened 3 years with the same amount of clients and volume, then it would be very easy to rate all books. The criteria above would be followed 100%. Since that is far from the case, individual aspects of a book must be considered.
If a book is paying 2 hours instead of immediately, it has to be determined why a book is taking longer. Speed of payment is the most important aspect of identical books. As mentioned in a post above, if a book takes a high volume of action, along with a large withdrawal amount, an exception has to be made.
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