The early investors in nxt really won the lottery. And not one with a positive expected ROI. They were just freaking lucky. It was an smart decision ex post but completely moronic ex ante IMO. Ill be even more surprised if lighting strikes twice.

thanks.

the word optional added for clarity

hey din can you put a link to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540017.msg5959495#msg5959495 like in the last thread. thanks!

I am now offering optional escrow for Numus

Please read the following carefully:

The fees will be higher this time than with exo_coin because the bitcoin price has fallen dramatically since I originally set those prices. I hope you will understand. The fee will be 0.02BTC or 0.9% which ever is greater.

Additionally YOU MUST BE IN PERSONAL POSSESSION OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE PRIVATE KEYS THAT YOU SEND FROM I will require digital signatures to release any funds or make any changes to the status of your order. Don't worry, its not as complicated as it sounds and I will be here for anyone who needs help to walk them through every step. You don't even need to know how digital signatures work yet, I can help you with that when the time comes, for now though just make sure that you send from a software client located on your machine or if you prefer e-wallet than use blockchain.info DO NOT SEND DIRECTLY TO ME FROM AN EXCHANGE

You will have the choice of releasing your funds after the investor only build is released in order to get your Numis early or you may wait a few additional weeks to evaluate the finished software.

Ok so if you have read everything carefully and agree to these terms feel free to send to this address when ever you are ready.

1B6HVyYkPSfFkTpgJ1LsFjWrSRGUhfT6Ri

i highly recommend just doing a multiplier. round 1 = input * 1.6. round 2 = input * 1.4. I say that because of the complications witnessed in exo coin.

ill probably have to start with something a little less ambitious than what was seen in the screenshots. im unable to find any machinists who are willing to take on my job at this time

Please read the following carefully:

The fees will be higher this time than with exo_coin because the bitcoin price has fallen dramatically since I originally set those prices. I hope you will understand. The fee will be 0.02BTC or 0.9% which ever is greater.

Additionally YOU MUST BE IN PERSONAL POSSESSION OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE PRIVATE KEYS THAT YOU SEND FROM I will require digital signatures to release any funds or make any changes to the status of your order. Don't worry, its not as complicated as it sounds and I will be here for anyone who needs help to walk them through every step. You don't even need to know how digital signatures work yet, I can help you with that when the time comes, for now though just make sure that you send from a software client located on your machine or if you prefer e-wallet than use blockchain.info DO NOT SEND DIRECTLY TO ME FROM AN EXCHANGE

Ok so if you have read everything carefully and agree to these terms feel free to send to this address when ever you are ready.

1PT7jU42DQfVecwqBAnrT49gJhfVm3YyBz

he was probably looking for someone to whom he could say "sorry you dont have enough rep so you have to send first, don't worry we can do it in batches"

Nothing changed about my escrow between stages. Which stage you fall into will be determined by the time of confirmation of the transaction.

It was a chapter from "The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible" by Ken Schoolland.

Don't get me wrong. The purpose of my post is not to marginalize your contribution. This is great work you are doing. As stated previously, I don't fault people for walking on their knees, it's perfectly rational.

it wasnt a commentary on how people should disobey. the point was to show how comical and surreal rational responses to irrational edicts can often be.

so like what i mean is, this whole proposal doesn't actually change anything, its a completely meaningless act, paying from this address or that makes no difference (in the real world, i guess it matters to government), and the effort being put in to controlling your coins properly doesnt help feed the poor or cloth the sick or w/e else. Every bit of effort one puts into controlling their coins for this purpose is productive effort that is being thrown into a black hole, never to be seen again, effort that could have been used alternatively to address number of aspects of society which are less than ideal.

When i see proposals like this, in my mind what i see is someone proposing that we should walk on our knees. thats not a criticism of people who walk on their knees, its rational for them to do so. what it is is a criticism of anyone who intellectually supports the conditions which lead to such zany and wasteful behavior. This sort of wasted potential energy is precisely why some societies are so much wealthier than others, think hong kong and cuba, singapore and hati. This is the sort of crap that is exactly why these societies are so materially different from one another and here it is, right here at home.

As Jonathan strode through the town he immediately noticed a
dignifi ed well-dressed man kneeling in the street, trying pain-
fully to walk. Yet, the man didn’t appear to be crippled – just short.
Jonathan offered a helping hand, but the man brushed him aside.

“No, thank you!” said the man, wincing in pain. “I can walk
okay. Using knees takes some getting used to.”

“You’re okay? But why don’t you get off your knees and walk
on your feet?”

“Ooooh!” moaned the man, squirming in discomfort. “It’s a
minor adjustment to the tax code.”

“The tax code?” repeated Jonathan. “What’s the tax code have
to do with walking?”

“Everything! Ow!” By now the man settled back on his heels,
resting from his torturous ordeal. He pulled a handkerchief from
his shirt pocket and mopped his brow. He shifted his balance to
massage one knee, then the other. Many layers of worn-out patches
had been sewn on at the knees. “The tax code,” he said, “has
recently been amended to level the fi eld for people of different
heights.”

“Level the fi eld?” asked Jonathan.

“Please stoop over so I don’t have to shout,” pleaded the man.

“That’s better. The Council of Lords decided that tall people have
too many advantages.”

“Advantages of tallness?”

“Oh, yes! Tall people are always favoured in hiring, promotion,
sports, entertainment, politics, and even marriage! Ooooh!” He
wrapped the handkerchief around the newest of many rips in his
grey pants. “So the Lords decided to level us with a stiff tallness
tax.”

“Tall people get taxed?” Jonathan glanced sideways and felt his
posture begin to droop.

“We’re taxed in direct proportion to our height.”

“Did anyone object?” asked Jonathan.

“Only those who refused to get on their knees,” the man said.

“Of course, we’ve allowed an exemption for politicians. We usually
vote tall! We like to look up to our leaders.”

Jonathan was dumbfounded. By now, he found himself slouching,
self-consciously trying to shrink. With both hands pointing down at
the man’s knees he questioned incredulously, “You’ll walk on your
knees just for a tax break?”

“Sure!” replied the man in a pained voice. “Our whole lives are
shaped to fi t the tax code. There are some who have even started to
crawl.”

“Wow! That must hurt!” Jonathan exclaimed.

“Yeah, but it hurts more not to. Ow! Only fools stand erect and
pay the higher taxes. So, if you want to act smart, get on your knees.
It’ll cost you plenty to stand tall.”

Jonathan looked around to see a handful of people walking on
their knees. One woman across the street was slowly crawling.
Many people scurried about half-crouching, their shoulders hunched
over. Only a few walked proudly erect, ignoring the sanctions
completely. Then Jonathan caught sight of three gentlemen across
the street sitting on a park bench. “Those three men,” indicated
Jonathan. “Why are they covering their eyes, ears, and mouths?”
“Oh, them? They’re practising,” replied the man as he leaned
forward on his knees to shuffl e along. “Getting ready for a new
series of tax proposals.”

that's a real nuanced perspective you bring to the table right there

sure its possible

so who is developing this crypto. are you paying someone to do it din?

i mean you the physical human being.

i think the reason is probably that the intention of the initial ban was to ban you, not your account.

yea i understand. ive been thinking really hard about this myself. im not sure if it actually protects us in the way you are thinking. every time i try to think through it all my brain craps out on me before i can follow through all the logic. ill keep working on it.