"Client Trading with Cryptsy support"
does this mean edge coin will trade coins with people on cryptsy?
can you explain this please?
It means you can use cryptsy, in the client. so you still send your coins to cryptsy?? you just do the trading in the client apposed to on the website? if so i am immediately not investing in this coin... If you are investing in anything that speaks of a truly decentralized exchange that isn't MSC, XCP, BTS, NXT, or ETHER, you are probably being scammed. Honestly, the fact that din admitted the exchange is simply an implentation of cryptsy's api is the only reason i did invest (through anon136's escrow of course). Din is promising MINT 2.0 with a fancy wallet. That is all this is. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. The odds of a random anonymous dev popping up with a working decentralized exchange out of the blue are next to nil if you spend 5 minutes contemplating the complexity of that undertaking. The early investors in nxt really won the lottery. And not one with a positive expected ROI. They were just freaking lucky. It was an smart decision ex post but completely moronic ex ante IMO. Ill be even more surprised if lighting strikes twice.
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Added at the bottom, your name hyperlinks to it. thanks.
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I am now offering escrow for Numus
Please read the following carefully:
The fees will be higher this time than with exo_coin because the bitcoin price has fallen dramatically since I originally set those prices. I hope you will understand. The fee will be 0.02BTC or 0.9% which ever is greater.
Additionally YOU MUST BE IN PERSONAL POSSESSION OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE PRIVATE KEYS THAT YOU SEND FROM I will require digital signatures to release any funds or make any changes to the status of your order. Don't worry, its not as complicated as it sounds and I will be here for anyone who needs help to walk them through every step. You don't even need to know how digital signatures work yet, I can help you with that when the time comes, for now though just make sure that you send from a software client located on your machine or if you prefer e-wallet than use blockchain.info DO NOT SEND DIRECTLY TO ME FROM AN EXCHANGE
You will have the choice of releasing your funds after the investor only build is released in order to get your Numis early or you may wait a few additional weeks to evaluate the finished software.
Ok so if you have read everything carefully and agree to these terms feel free to send to this address when ever you are ready.
1B6HVyYkPSfFkTpgJ1LsFjWrSRGUhfT6Ri
As you can see in the post above Anon136 is providing the optional escrow for the IPO. the word optional added for clarity
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I am now offering optional escrow for Numus
Please read the following carefully:
The fees will be higher this time than with exo_coin because the bitcoin price has fallen dramatically since I originally set those prices. I hope you will understand. The fee will be 0.02BTC or 0.9% which ever is greater.
Additionally YOU MUST BE IN PERSONAL POSSESSION OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE PRIVATE KEYS THAT YOU SEND FROM I will require digital signatures to release any funds or make any changes to the status of your order. Don't worry, its not as complicated as it sounds and I will be here for anyone who needs help to walk them through every step. You don't even need to know how digital signatures work yet, I can help you with that when the time comes, for now though just make sure that you send from a software client located on your machine or if you prefer e-wallet than use blockchain.info DO NOT SEND DIRECTLY TO ME FROM AN EXCHANGE
You will have the choice of releasing your funds after the investor only build is released in order to get your Numis early or you may wait a few additional weeks to evaluate the finished software.
Ok so if you have read everything carefully and agree to these terms feel free to send to this address when ever you are ready.
1B6HVyYkPSfFkTpgJ1LsFjWrSRGUhfT6Ri
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Wallet looks good. what is the percentage of stage 2? can you draw of Pie chart for each period like EXO?
It's a 60/40 split, it says so quite largely at the top of the OP post. Anyway, maybe this is better. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F7NqOp%2F4fc8e0431f.png&t=665&c=caxduWy1o-3L6Q) i highly recommend just doing a multiplier. round 1 = input * 1.6. round 2 = input * 1.4. I say that because of the complications witnessed in exo coin.
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ill probably have to start with something a little less ambitious than what was seen in the screenshots. im unable to find any machinists who are willing to take on my job at this time ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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Please read the following carefully:
The fees will be higher this time than with exo_coin because the bitcoin price has fallen dramatically since I originally set those prices. I hope you will understand. The fee will be 0.02BTC or 0.9% which ever is greater.
Additionally YOU MUST BE IN PERSONAL POSSESSION OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE PRIVATE KEYS THAT YOU SEND FROM I will require digital signatures to release any funds or make any changes to the status of your order. Don't worry, its not as complicated as it sounds and I will be here for anyone who needs help to walk them through every step. You don't even need to know how digital signatures work yet, I can help you with that when the time comes, for now though just make sure that you send from a software client located on your machine or if you prefer e-wallet than use blockchain.info DO NOT SEND DIRECTLY TO ME FROM AN EXCHANGE
Ok so if you have read everything carefully and agree to these terms feel free to send to this address when ever you are ready.
1PT7jU42DQfVecwqBAnrT49gJhfVm3YyBz
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So I've been told. He never wrote back to me anyways. Thanks for lookin out! ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) he was probably looking for someone to whom he could say "sorry you dont have enough rep so you have to send first, don't worry we can do it in batches" ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Nothing changed about my escrow between stages. Which stage you fall into will be determined by the time of confirmation of the transaction.
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Don't get me wrong. The purpose of my post is not to marginalize your contribution. This is great work you are doing. As stated previously, I don't fault people for walking on their knees, it's perfectly rational.
No offense taken. I quite enjoyed your story and agree that it shows the irrationality of current tax law. It was a chapter from "The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible" by Ken Schoolland.
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When i see proposals like this, in my mind what i see is someone proposing that we should walk on our knees.
I see it as walking on our knees and standing tall at the same time. Work on the ZGL wallet is productive in terms of changing perceptions: for example, the proposed use of the mixer to recognize capital gains events legitimizes such devices as a tool to ensure US tax compliance. This has the advantage of diffusing coin particles more quickly throughout the economy, weakening arguments against bitcoin's fungibility. This also further reinforces the concept of bitcoin as token money ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Token_money) with strong privacy properties and the notion that ownership belongs to he who controls the private key. To get from A to B, we have a lot of myths to shatter. We will do this one step at a time by jumping through certain hoops and walking around others. Don't get me wrong. The purpose of my post is not to marginalize your contribution. This is great work you are doing. As stated previously, I don't fault people for walking on their knees, it's perfectly rational.
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Only a few walked proudly erect, ignoring the sanctions completely.
That's a nice story, and I understand the point completely, but the majority of the population isn't ready to protest taxes. Bitcoin is a nice stepping stone towards freedom, it's an asset that the private key holder has complete control over. So, maybe these taxpayers start using Bitcoin today to enjoy some of it's advantages, and then later on down the road, everyone realizes what it means to have the power of private ownership again. Mighty oaks from little acorns grow. it wasnt a commentary on how people should disobey. the point was to show how comical and surreal rational responses to irrational edicts can often be. so like what i mean is, this whole proposal doesn't actually change anything, its a completely meaningless act, paying from this address or that makes no difference (in the real world, i guess it matters to government), and the effort being put in to controlling your coins properly doesnt help feed the poor or cloth the sick or w/e else. Every bit of effort one puts into controlling their coins for this purpose is productive effort that is being thrown into a black hole, never to be seen again, effort that could have been used alternatively to address number of aspects of society which are less than ideal. When i see proposals like this, in my mind what i see is someone proposing that we should walk on our knees. thats not a criticism of people who walk on their knees, its rational for them to do so. what it is is a criticism of anyone who intellectually supports the conditions which lead to such zany and wasteful behavior. This sort of wasted potential energy is precisely why some societies are so much wealthier than others, think hong kong and cuba, singapore and hati. This is the sort of crap that is exactly why these societies are so materially different from one another and here it is, right here at home.
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As Jonathan strode through the town he immediately noticed a dignifi ed well-dressed man kneeling in the street, trying pain- fully to walk. Yet, the man didn’t appear to be crippled – just short. Jonathan offered a helping hand, but the man brushed him aside.
“No, thank you!” said the man, wincing in pain. “I can walk okay. Using knees takes some getting used to.”
“You’re okay? But why don’t you get off your knees and walk on your feet?”
“Ooooh!” moaned the man, squirming in discomfort. “It’s a minor adjustment to the tax code.”
“The tax code?” repeated Jonathan. “What’s the tax code have to do with walking?”
“Everything! Ow!” By now the man settled back on his heels, resting from his torturous ordeal. He pulled a handkerchief from his shirt pocket and mopped his brow. He shifted his balance to massage one knee, then the other. Many layers of worn-out patches had been sewn on at the knees. “The tax code,” he said, “has recently been amended to level the fi eld for people of different heights.”
“Level the fi eld?” asked Jonathan.
“Please stoop over so I don’t have to shout,” pleaded the man.
“That’s better. The Council of Lords decided that tall people have too many advantages.”
“Advantages of tallness?”
“Oh, yes! Tall people are always favoured in hiring, promotion, sports, entertainment, politics, and even marriage! Ooooh!” He wrapped the handkerchief around the newest of many rips in his grey pants. “So the Lords decided to level us with a stiff tallness tax.”
“Tall people get taxed?” Jonathan glanced sideways and felt his posture begin to droop.
“We’re taxed in direct proportion to our height.”
“Did anyone object?” asked Jonathan.
“Only those who refused to get on their knees,” the man said.
“Of course, we’ve allowed an exemption for politicians. We usually vote tall! We like to look up to our leaders.”
Jonathan was dumbfounded. By now, he found himself slouching, self-consciously trying to shrink. With both hands pointing down at the man’s knees he questioned incredulously, “You’ll walk on your knees just for a tax break?”
“Sure!” replied the man in a pained voice. “Our whole lives are shaped to fi t the tax code. There are some who have even started to crawl.”
“Wow! That must hurt!” Jonathan exclaimed.
“Yeah, but it hurts more not to. Ow! Only fools stand erect and pay the higher taxes. So, if you want to act smart, get on your knees. It’ll cost you plenty to stand tall.”
Jonathan looked around to see a handful of people walking on their knees. One woman across the street was slowly crawling. Many people scurried about half-crouching, their shoulders hunched over. Only a few walked proudly erect, ignoring the sanctions completely. Then Jonathan caught sight of three gentlemen across the street sitting on a park bench. “Those three men,” indicated Jonathan. “Why are they covering their eyes, ears, and mouths?” “Oh, them? They’re practising,” replied the man as he leaned forward on his knees to shuffl e along. “Getting ready for a new series of tax proposals.”
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Bitcoin and unregulated financial markets just leads to massive scamming.
And so does your mom. No, but seriously, finance is massive scamming de facto. Bitcoin just has different rules. that's a real nuanced perspective you bring to the table right there ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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team nxt AE up with a gold bullion in china/usa/uk/europe. people pay over phone of on website with credit card to buy gold from the bullion but instead of receiving solid gold have the bullion transfer them gold "assets" on AE. they can then trade those gold assets for crypto! possible?
sure its possible
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so who is developing this crypto. are you paying someone to do it din?
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Nice banned again, this time for no reason, I even had to pay money.
Looks like this forum wants to destroy development and the IPO. Hopefully this stops soon, we will push through.
i think the reason is probably that the intention of the initial ban was to ban you, not your account. Welp, paid to remove the IP ban now. i mean you the physical human being.
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Nice banned again, this time for no reason, I even had to pay money.
Looks like this forum wants to destroy development and the IPO. Hopefully this stops soon, we will push through.
i think the reason is probably that the intention of the initial ban was to ban you, not your account.
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I'm not understanding why this would make it difficult to construct a exploitative block.
If that information applied to only 1440 - X blocks (where perhaps X is just 1) then the forger of block 1440 can't really do anything to affect the outcome apart from *not forge* (which TF as originally planned would result in penalty). (sorry - I didn't get that right before) Note that this extra entropy is just to make sure we can't predict the lottery ticket *even if we could predict the forging hash 1440 blocks in the future*. yea i understand. ive been thinking really hard about this myself. im not sure if it actually protects us in the way you are thinking. every time i try to think through it all my brain craps out on me before i can follow through all the logic. ill keep working on it.
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