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2941  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeff Epstein DEAD Commits suicide on: August 15, 2019, 03:09:45 PM
The disgraced Millionaire Pedophile was found dead in his cell according to Fox news https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-dead-by-suicide-found-in-manhattan-jail-cell

How is this possible when he was on suicide watch? a lot of Powerful Men are Happy about this i;m sure

Suspicious indeed... Probably all the others who went to party to the island no doubt...

Did he happen to own any bitcoins?
2942  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Employment is over rated (build your own empire). on: August 15, 2019, 02:56:46 PM
MLM sellers are the worst. They're usually the greediest of people who only care about profit and will push whatever crap they're selling on to you because their business depends on it. Most people won't get rich from this sort or marketing but there is money to be made from it, but it's done in such a sleazy desperate way and they try take others down with them by selling the bullshit dream they're hoping to achieve but as long as they get your money then that's all they care about.

Because if you truly understand MLM you know you have to make your money and leave ASAP before the scheme collapses. As in most schemes only about an 8% of the participants earn anything but only if you manage to cash and leave, which 92% won't be able to do (and its their money you are taking with you)...

You have to lie and be the best sales-man you can ever be, so they put their money and you can leave pronto. Else, YOU lose as well (as any MLM participant is required to put money in it). The best way to deal with MLM is not getting involved in the first place, EVEN if they promise you full refund at any time*

(*)with some little wording somewhere explaining things such as only in the first 24 hrs or so.
2943  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should Andrew Yang Give Everyone Unlimited Money? on: August 15, 2019, 02:18:25 PM
His plan is to give each American $1000 but don`t you think it is more fair to give them unlimited money like the FED?

I really think that is what we should do, Anyone in the FED cannot create any money, and the rest of the people can create unlimited.

Let`s reverse engineer it for at least 48 years like they have done to use since 1971.

This is the net result of your "brilliant" idea:

Everyone becomes poor, VERY poor.

Unlimited is garbage, you still don't get it and keep repeating it like a parrot. Why, don't you come and live here so you can understand the results of "unlimited"?

The only salvageable phrase from you is this: Anyone in the FED cannot create any money.

Oh and remember about giving homes to the homeless? Guess what would happen if you give $1000 to each American... Think: they won't invest it, at least not the vast majority, especially the impoverished...

So I'll say it to you again until it enters your brain (if that doesn't work, do come and live here):

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.


We've had tons and tons of threads about why UBI could be vital. But the one thing that I and Theymos have said is that if you want something like UBI to flourish, and to not be a burden on the taxpayers -- YOU NEED TO REMOVE EVERY OTHER SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAM.

Everything. Medicare, Medicaid, Food stamps, housing benefits, ETC. Everything from the federal level all the way down to the local level.

If you're going to be spending this amount of money, in the ballpark of $12,000 per year per person in the US (obvious restrictions of within a certain income, and then cost of living increases and decreases)

This system can work, but everyone has to be onboard for it. As it would eliminate a large amount of government jobs that are unnecessary (think of all the people handling SS payments, medicare, housing, food stamps, etc) and replace it with a simple system with a much smaller amount of employees.

I agree with you here, incidentally the very same thing was proposed here, sadly with little support. This is the next best after just don't give anything to anyone AND eliminate all the programs. But if you insist in having the State spending money "for the poor" (ahem), then at least this does remove part of the corruption and bureaucracy. You see, in "theory" all the money goes to the "poor", but in reality... only a fraction makes it, and depending on country, that fraction can only be smaller (ie. less or more corrupt). It never works like socialists dream, the humans tasked to "redistribute" the wealth redistribute it a bit too much towards themselves, always... Or do a very poor job, benefiting their friends and family first, their city, party, whatever, leaving somebody behind. This is a human condition and cannot be fixed.

Why i don't believe in UBI? It doesn't level the playing field, it doesn't give people a "second chance". Those that desperately need it will spend it right away. Does that don't, will actually invest it and hopefully become richer, so at the end of the day, you did nothing. You fed a few poor for some days, and helped the rich become richer. This is very similar to inflation.

State intervention usually makes things worse, not better. Again theory and reality are worlds apart. Get a good economy running and everyone can fed by themselves. Deflation is part of the solution, read Mises and the Austrian economists for the answer.

(Well fed) socialists always have well intentions (well most always), but alas the humans don't behave as they should... "Because the system made them so", but the "New Man" proposed by Che Guevara never comes.
2944  Other / Politics & Society / Re: WW3 About to start HK/China/U.N on: August 15, 2019, 02:51:23 AM
PRoC was much weaker back in 1989. So no sufficient interfere other than some empty threats.

Dood, China gonna fucking own HK people in like 30 seconds next protest. The Military is 2 billion strong, They can`t even all fit into HK.

The United Nations needs to get them the fuck out, the British contract is up. That is China land, do not go in after the fact in some "humanitarian crisis" it is already over you just start WW3 that is it.

Two options

Get them out now
Do not get them out ever

Otherwise if you wait and try and get them out, you spark a world war that will lead to us fighting with sticks and stones in 10000 years in ww4.

LOL how deluded and mistaken you are. The UN? The UN doesn't move a finger without the authorization of the Security Council. Do you even know there is a small select group in there with the power of Veto? Doesn't matter if everyone else votes military intervention, it only takes one veto to block the action, and they don't need to justify it either, if they don't want it that's it. Guess which country belongs to the select group? Yup, China, "People's Republic of".

There are no two options, there never were. And no country, especially not the US, will risk unilateral action against perhaps the largest military force in the world. If China decides to put HK under military curfew then that is that, only the people there might rebel but no one else will get in. Unlike Taiwan, there were no Americans in place to deter any such incursion, it is too late and there won't be anything beyond some old style "pacification" of protestors. You said it well this is China land, for China its a domestic matter, only reason they didn't invade Taiwan is the foreign military presence of another world power. The British didn't think of doing that when they had the chance before their lease expired, so that is that.

The world will do nothing against China, the protesters will be incarcerated, the HK people will learn to behave and things go back to normal, business as usual. Just remember, in China the party reigns is supreme and nobody can dare challenge it ever. No politics. It is root deep in their tradition, they were always ruled by omnipotent emperors and nobody could question them or their court and ministers.

The people from HK who cannot live under such a regime will simply emigrate as there is nothing else they can do about it. The rest will simply adapt and be part of the Chinese way. Welcome to world politics, your little dreams don't matter, people are getting oppressed all over the planet but none of the other world powers care, unless there is something of their interest...
2945  Other / Politics & Society / Re: When will the Christ's words be hatespeech again? on: August 15, 2019, 02:11:53 AM
The New Testament is probably closer than most people think to be being labeled 'antisemitic' and 'hate speech' and being outlawed.  Actually it will be 're-written'...by helpful Rabbis of course.  Wait for it.

The main beef that Talmudic Jews have against Christianity is 'the Trinity'.  That is, the belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ.  It is 'idolatry'.  The re-write of the New Testament will resolve that problem.  Islam is actually good to go in this regard.  When Jews and Muslims get together and hold up one finger, as Barbara Lerner Spectre does, their esoteric meaning behind that is 'one God.'  So some say.

A kid I know came home from public school the other day and spontaneously told me that Jesus's dad was Joseph.  She had learned it in class that day.  This is not the U.S.;  it is a so-called 'Catholic Nation' in SE Asia.

'Education' is very important to (((them))) world wide in furtherance of their goals of bringing "world peace" and being "a light unto the nations" and such-like.  More like "a tapeworm unto the nations" if you ask me.

Well historically the reason Christianity has this weird notion of a "Trinity" is because that was the half-assed solution to "fix" an irreconcilable divide that started in with the early Christians when they were finally accepted by a major power (Rome). The then emperor got angry with that stupid division and demanded a solution or else... And the Trinity was the solution. The divide? Some said Jesus came in the flesh, while the other group said he only did in spirit.

I'm a bit surprised Quran gives such attention to Mary, interesting none the less, but they insist they were in the flesh. And its not like the Jews are incorrect with the idolatry thing. Many reformist denominations object to the semi-cult of Mary practiced by Catholics or representing Jesus in the cross, statues etc (which Islam forbids, probably with the same aim). Humans, especially in those days, would do the most ridiculous (and sometimes gross) things to "please" some inanimate figure or object... Context, about the time a religion was founded is important to understand it.

It is funny and tragic, how in human history major religions immediately split over the smallest things. There are some references to that in the Life of Brian (yeah, Monty Python) with the sandal thing, but is the truth. Christians, Jews, Islam they have split in factions and some really hate each other...

This is what emperor Constantine faced, this is why he demanded an end to that division, the best they could come with was that Trinity, a discussion that today is long forgotten, but surely unnecessary. Christians would show a sign of maturity if they dropped it to improve relations with the other groups.

Sometimes things that look incredibly complicated are explained by the simplest of things, its simply a matter of not knowing.
2946  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Awesome Miners Antminer S9 firmware on: August 15, 2019, 01:19:45 AM
Its strange that Awesome Miner did not announce here their custom firmware, given that they have announced Awesome Miner itself...

I don't think people should use any S9 firmware with dev fee, no single feature is worth any fees they ask, given most (if not all) features are provided for free either by manufacturer or the Free and Open Source BraiinsOS.

Also, Awesome Miner itself isn't free, and its actually quite expensive by itself. Now with this firmware you are supposed to give them even more money?
2947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Argentina proven BTC to be a store of value class asset? on: August 14, 2019, 11:04:42 PM
It helps a small group of people as store of value, just like how it does so in other countries with stronger fiat currencies. What really helps them is the dollar because of its store of value characteristics and easy to spend nature.

One dollar notes are a commodity on their own in shaky countries. Aside from increased (very likely speculative) demand on LBC there is nothing really indicating that people there are interested in Bitcoin.

Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to see Bitcoin gain more actual adoption as store of value and currency, but people tend to read an increased demand on platforms such as LBC way too far. I need to see metrics based on actual use.

Hello from Shaky country. I have seen people paying using USD banknotes, they get accepted at whatever "street price" the shop feels like, plus your change is in the local garbage fiat. Very often there are too few USD banknotes for change, and coins are nonexistent.

OTC here is out of the question, and we happen to use LBC way too much (their fees are outrageous, especially wallet transfer fees that can't be adjusted), but such is life in shakyland.

To me it is much more convenient to just exchange whatever garbage fiat will be needed for the day. This has caused me some troubles, but there is no choice. If you change too much into garbage fiat, it loses its value too quickly so you want the most to remain in bitcoin for the longest time possible.

USD are very hard to find, and to trade, and because they are OTC trades, way too risky. think that people here earn about 5 USD a month for a full time job, how much of a target you become to criminals if you happen to have a 100 USD banknote.

The beauty of Bitcoin is you remain low profile as exchanging (online, screw OTC) 10 USD or 1000 USD is done the exact same way.

With the slight bitcoin downtrend our garbage coin is currently back to 1.5 per satoshi (when selling BTC).
2948  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 76% of dark market using Bitcoin on: August 14, 2019, 10:46:24 PM
Strange to see Monero and other privacy coins being so unpopular in darknet markets, is Bitcoin mixing good enough these days, or are privacy coins suffering from some problems? Maybe it's hard to convert them to BTC or fiat without raising suspicion?

There are currently some researches floating around that put Bitcoin illegal use at 1-2%, but the fact that Bitcoin is so popular sure means that something is wrong with those researches.

They should try using monero and other privacy coins. I believe they are not as hot in the eyes of the scrutinizing public as compared to bitcoin. Most people wanted to trace where bitcoin goes while other altcoins are just being ignored. Why not try those other privacy coins?  Tongue

Perhaps they trust Bitcoin more, perhaps they fear a hidden surprise in the "privacy" altcoins, or perhaps the fact that only the cli Monero wallet can actually do anonymized transactions (which shouldn't be a problem for a "hacker", of course).

If you ever used Monero, but didn't use the Command Line Interface wallet with that specific option, your transactions are pretty much in the clear. Surprising?
2949  Other / Off-topic / Re: Could this catch on and make life easier? on: August 14, 2019, 10:01:32 PM
Its going to be extremely hard to update computers and other devices for this

Not really hard - just tedious and time consuming.  

We should also move to Base 10 Time while we are changing...

100 seconds in a minute
100 minutes in an hour
10 hours in a day
Just 13,600 bonus seconds Smiley

Let's include the US in the change this time.

This was already tried, its the Decimal time. It didn't catch on.
in the French decimal time system there were 100,000 decimal seconds in the day, so the decimal second was shorter than its counterpart.
No bonus seconds, just smaller seconds Smiley

However people mentioning computers should know that internally they do have a Metric time, so changing that into "anything" else is rather simple.


What about those devices who aren't connected to internet? Can image how much time It'll take to update them manually?
Just sync at 000 (ie. 12am).


There is a little python script to show you Swatch's internet time, aptly called swatchtime. I installed it on linux in under 1 beat Smiley
At the moment of this writting we are @980 just 20 beats for midnight in Biel...
2950  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you Think we Are alone in the Universe? on: August 14, 2019, 09:44:04 PM
We don't know what's on earth. The ocean floor. And you're asking about space..

Actually we do, and you won't like it:

Trash found littering ocean floor in deepest-ever sub dive

It is THAT bad. Perhaps humans don't deserve to become space-faring...
2951  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Adoption In Your Country on: August 14, 2019, 07:46:24 PM
Are you from United States?

I think it's hard to stop the growth of Bitcoin. The government can do anything they want but they can not stop people using it. How are they gonna trace someone who will use TOR/VPN.

I think there are 5 to 7 countries who are publicly unfortunate to get the benefit of cryptocurrency. Sooner or later they will change their mind.

It is possible to spot people using tor/vpn, what its not possible for them to know is what it was being used for. Tor has some levels of obfuscation and it can be made to look a bit like regular web traffic, not too sure about vpn.
2952  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New to Bitcoin - What am I missing? on: August 14, 2019, 06:22:09 PM
Finally having some first experiences with Bitcoin, seems very disappointing.

The fees are very high, and it is very slow. This makes it very impractical for a lot of uses. What am I missing?

LIES. The fees are low and the transactions are super fast next to wire transfers and other payment methods that require days for processing.

Bitcoin has only one fee that matters: 1 sat/B. The rest is ignorant people who fail to use a proper wallet with manual setting of transfer fees.

There is only a small use case where people would need the transfer NOW, and for that LN is filling the void. This requires wallet support. In the meantime don't use it for that if you can't be bothered to wait an hour or so for a very cheap transaction (3’ like) or a few minutes for something approaching 1$.
2953  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Argentina proven BTC to be a store of value class asset? on: August 14, 2019, 06:13:17 PM


while btc is certain a good option to store their wealth in case of crisis in their country happen, we in crypto however are also celebrating after we dump the money they pour into btc.  Argentinians should have been buying btc and then buying stablecoin after it to store their wealth. i guess no one advices them to do that.

All they need to do is wait until it goes above whatever they bought at. If you do it against peso, even with your "dumping", its still higher. You must not underestimate inflation, they did here, and the entire country is paying the consequences.

Bitcoin is super stable next to ours. Your little fluctuation (12k to 10k?) means nothing. Argentinians did no wrong by turning to bitcoin. I'm a bit surprised about the OTC thing, but i guess that's still an option when you don't need boxes of paper to buy a few satoshis. Let them fall the path of my country, and soon they will turn to electronic only, as in exchanges. OTC is madness over here (and ATMs are impossible as well).

Compare this with the hurdle of finding people with USD banknotes, and the dangers.

A have not seen their elections but i guess some socialist candidate is getting a chance, which would explain the panic. They just have to point here as their future. But yes, they should have not waited and bought in advance. Its still not a bad move, trust me, they will later realize it if they are disciplined and keep the most they can of their investment as savings for the future.
2954  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China's Central Bank planning Fraud coin on: August 14, 2019, 05:39:03 PM
In fact I think it's better for people to use a state crypto currency than using banks. At least with crypto currencies they are their own bank, and they don't need to trust and depend on some commercial and financial establishments. Bankers can start to cry, if it's not bitcoin, it will be another crypto currency, but the end of their world is approaching.

Depends, if not decentralized, as most States like it, then its the State assuming the role of bank, not you. They made sure to do that in Venezuela with the Petro Fraud coin.

For communists following the manifesto, it makes perfect sense. The State is supposed to end all banks and be the only bank...

And i think that's a step backwards, not forwards. If they do copy Bitcoin or straight adopt it, then yes, else, no. If they do copy Bitcoin, you have to carefully inspect what changes they have made, and often, they love to not respect the rules of free open source software (go sue them if you can), so the keep the changes hidden (In Venezuela it even violates a law made by themselves, but they don't care). So assuming they are transparent and release the code and all its changes, we can then make an educated opinion for the new State altcoin and its worthyness.

It always depends, but more often than not, it ends worse. Its best if they just adopt Bitcoin or at lease one of its closest clones.
I don't understand your point. It's the main goal of Bitcoin and all the cryptocurrencies to replace the banks, so why are you saying it's a kind of "communist" plan?  Huh I think being the real owner and master of its funds, is more liberal than communist.
And even if it is a centralized blockchain, if the protocol doesn't allow to seize funds in wallets (like all cryptocurrencies), users remain the only owners of their funds.

For Bitcoin how do you want it to become the money of a 1.5 billion inhabitants country with only 7 transactions per second  Huh

It seems you don't understand various things. Bitcoin is decentralized, so this is not about Bitcoin, Bitcoin is perfectly fine, and its not replacing private banks with a state bank. With Bitcoin banks are optional...

The communist part is about centralized coins, this you fail to understand how bad centralized coins are. You think they can't undo your transactions? Yes they can, so its the same as you not owning anything in the first place. There is no such thing as a good centralized crypto, sorry to break your dreams. The whole point of centralization is you are not the master of anything; they are, yes they can seize your funds, freeze them or undo your transfers at anytime, and they don't even need your keys for that (with Petro you don't even get the private keys), they control their blockchain.

This happens to fit quite fine with abolition of private banks in favor of a State Bank, just like the manifesto says. Marxist communism (not anarchist) is all about a giant police State controlling (commanding) things, pretty much a police state, like in fact was tried in several countries of the former soviet bloc; tho they like to call it "a transition period" towards communism, and actually call it the "socialist" stage.

You miss the point where centralization ruins crypto. This is why i clearly said coins like Libra and Petro are utter and absolute garbage. Libra is private owned, and Petro is State owned, so there you get two extremes with the same (failed) result. While Bitcoin is also private owned, its ownership is spread into several many more people, with a bias to those that invested earlier; which makes it very difficult to change without consensus, but not impossible. It is too expensive to try to "attack it", which is the beauty or PoW. While technically possible, you will end spending more money than whatever you planned to obtain by performing the attack in the first place.

See, even if "now" governments see the importance of Bitcoin and try to buy it, most of it is already in the hands of people. And would be it too expensive to attempt to buy half of it to pull a 51% attack.
2955  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Was Created By Our Lord and Saviour Satoshi Nakamoto on: August 14, 2019, 04:01:11 PM
"Thou shall have a limited supply, but if unlimited everyone creates it at the same rate"

And thus, you try to contraband "your" idea again. That is not Bitcoin, because unlimited is dumb. There is no but if unlimited in Bitcoin. Go elsewhere for that.
2956  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Inevitable Consensus Attack on Bitcoin on: August 14, 2019, 03:53:39 PM
Recently my aunt just gave me 100,000 bucks to buy bitcoin for her.
She is willing to give such amount of money to me while too lazy to listen to my muttering about private keys,seeds,backup,signitures and the importance of self-sovereign.

She simply told me to keep the coins for her and she would pay me some mantaining fees.

Quite an easy target for Coinbase marketing right?

No, you are just being used as a full reserve bank. Ie. Shut up and keep my money safe, I'll pay you for that...

Most banks used to be like this until about two centuries ago when they started switching to fractional reserve. But i rather skip the history lesson.

If you study Austrian economics, you'll discover that is exactly how a deflationary economy operates.

This is perfectly fine, as people should neither be obliged to either, keep their coins themselves, or give them to a third party. The important thing is having the choice.
2957  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Binance Hackers Bombard Chipmixer to Launder at Least 4,836 BTC on: August 14, 2019, 03:44:07 PM
Future outlook is quite bleak for Chipmixer. Even if they co-operate with the authorities, the chances are that they will be forced to close down. In fact it surprises me that the authorities allowed them to operate until now. If I am not wrong, they have been operating for more than two years and that makes them the oldest Bitcoin mixer that is currently active.

Do you even know where its physically located? Under what jurisdiction it would fall in? There are still plenty of places where Bitcoin is unregulated, therefore it doesn't exist from a legal standpoint. Think, game money, or game items. They don't "exist", yet there is people out there willing to pay real money for those particular bits of information.

See, if they fall into one of these countries, no one can order them do anything.
2958  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Braiins OS: open-source mining firmware [S9, T1]. New release includes AsicBoost on: August 14, 2019, 03:22:36 PM
Hi, i think i solved the problem.
i must be put the "Use custom DNS servers"
now working......

but IPv4 broadcast must be fill or not? i'm not fill..... i don't know what write.....

Leave it alone if its working. broadcast address can be deduced automatically most of the time (its the top ip within a segment).

Try using multiple pools in case one fails. Most pools have multiple url addresses for different locations.
2959  Other / Off-topic / Re: [CLASSIC] World of Warcraft on: August 14, 2019, 12:34:24 AM
Yeah private  Vanilla servers are still very popular, that is why Blizzard decided to release Classic servers ( starting with patch 1.12)as naturally they want their piece of cake, as they saw that there is still huge demand for Classic Wow.

Regarding asking for money, all you have to do is to have active subscription and you have both retail and Classic WoW available.And if you dont want to pay WoW subscription with a real money, you can always pay with gold, and it is fairly easy to farm it in retail WoW.For the last 6 or 7 years i haven't spent 1 cent on WoW, all my gametime comes from ingame gold.

BTW, if someone plans to play Classic WoW and wants to reserve some cool name, you can already do it, since last night.You can only reserve 3 names though.

OK, about how much in game time do you need for the game to pay itself? I imagine this is farming items and selling them, but is this allowed in game or outside? I remember games like EVE online kinda allowed it in game but not sure about WoW.
2960  Other / Off-topic / Re: Could this catch on and make life easier? on: August 14, 2019, 12:26:51 AM
If i remember right at some stage in the past 2 months where added.
September originating from "Septem" latin for 7
October originating form "Octo" 8 in latin
Novembers origin is "Novem" latins 9
December from the latin 10 "decem"

Yes every month does have a Friday the 13th
Body has a 28 day cycle

There are 13 Zodiac signs, it is just a fact that "Ophiuchus"  is left out to make fit for the 12 months.

Capricorn: Jan 20 – Feb 16
Aquarius: Feb 16 – March 11
Pisces: March 11 – April 18
Aries: April 18 – May 13
Taurus: May 13 – June 21
Gemini: June 21 – July 20
Cancer: July 20 – Aug 10
Leo: Aug 10 – Sept 16
Virgo: Sept 16 – Oct 30
Libra: Oct 30 – Nov 23
Scorpio: Nov 23 – Nov 29
Ophiuchus: Nov 29 – Dec 17
Sagittarius: Dec 17 – Jan 20

Yes you correctly recognized the remaining months. Originally more (maybe all) 10 months were called with numbers, but they started putting deities and later emperors in there. Why, oh why we must use Roman Emperor names for months? At least Asians were smart to stick to numbers, the actual number, ie: month 12, not December which means 10th. Before September (7) was Sextillis (6) and Quintillis (5), but some Emperor decreed themselves more fit than some lousy number.

Here is the Wikipedia article: Legendary 10-month calendar

They don't teach this in school, but they still force kids to learn these nonsensical names for the months. This probably needs language changes, as several western languages are using those ancient roman (non-synced) names for the months.
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