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2961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: boycott bitcoin2.0 scamcoin they are crashing the market on: April 20, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
the real point is, there are at least proofs that all those funds are going into those projects or their are just being dumped to enrich the developers?

i still think that they raised too much money for projects like those

If we take ethereum as example, they have raised 31'000 bitcoins (correct me if I am wrong) but what did they do with those btc? Where is the ethereum 'coin' ? How much time is passed?
2962  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Appeal to Sig-Campaign Managers to Exclude "Meta" & "Politics & Society" on: April 20, 2015, 02:12:41 PM
I don't see your point. Why are you asking signature campaign managers to exclude posts made in the politics section? There is meaningful conversation there, probably more so then in many other sections.

I would repeat my solution to shit posts in the forum would be for campaign managers to do a better job of weeding out shit-posters.

I am asking that because I consider them as off-topic. Let me ask you this, where would a person who wants to discuss about Movies or Music post? in off-topic right? And that's not paid for because it is considered useless.

But people arguing whether a religion is right or not is meaningful and paid for? How can that be fair?

Argue about religions is more useful than talk about what kind of music do you like, or am I wrong?

Arguing about religions pretty much will create an endless debate , this happens many time even on this forum . Each party will keep on pushing their religions towards the other using some facts about how good their religion are but some threads in politics and society is still okay imo


I may agree with you, but I think we cannot compare the off topic section with the Politics & Society or am I wrong? Or with the Meta section. He wants only that all the posts made in the off topic will count, but have you seen the threads in that section  Roll Eyes?
2963  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Appeal to Sig-Campaign Managers to Exclude "Meta" & "Politics & Society" on: April 20, 2015, 02:09:40 PM
I don't see your point. Why are you asking signature campaign managers to exclude posts made in the politics section? There is meaningful conversation there, probably more so then in many other sections.

I would repeat my solution to shit posts in the forum would be for campaign managers to do a better job of weeding out shit-posters.

I am asking that because I consider them as off-topic. Let me ask you this, where would a person who wants to discuss about Movies or Music post? in off-topic right? And that's not paid for because it is considered useless.

But people arguing whether a religion is right or not is meaningful and paid for? How can that be fair?

Argue about religions is more useful than talk about what kind of music do you like, or am I wrong?


Maybe it will be useful for person who follows a religion, to others who doesn't it would be useless. Same thing can be said about any interests. Me I like movies but to you, the discussion may feel not worthy.

So my point is either include other off-topic posts which are meaningful too or consider the politics as off-topic too. You can't say 1 is bad and the other is good. They're both interests.

Some people hate politics but they like Entertainment but can they discuss about it and get paid? No
So it seems like certain interests are paid for while others are not. As I said, Either include both or exclude both.

In that case, you should ask the maintainer (ndnhc) of the dadice signature campaign if he can include the 'off topic' section instead to ban the other ("Meta" & "Politics & Society"). Isn't it better?
2964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: boycott bitcoin2.0 scamcoin they are crashing the market on: April 20, 2015, 02:05:42 PM
What is the problem if someone do that thing? We are in a decentralised 'world' and everyone has the right to choose the coin that he 'likes' and obviously to issue his money. The problem of proclaim themselves better than bitcoin itself ... in that case it is not a problem. As I said everyone can choose his coin and everyone have a "brain".
2965  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Appeal to Sig-Campaign Managers to Exclude "Meta" & "Politics & Society" on: April 20, 2015, 01:59:46 PM
I don't see your point. Why are you asking signature campaign managers to exclude posts made in the politics section? There is meaningful conversation there, probably more so then in many other sections.

I would repeat my solution to shit posts in the forum would be for campaign managers to do a better job of weeding out shit-posters.

I am asking that because I consider them as off-topic. Let me ask you this, where would a person who wants to discuss about Movies or Music post? in off-topic right? And that's not paid for because it is considered useless.

But people arguing whether a religion is right or not is meaningful and paid for? How can that be fair?

Argue about religions is more useful than talk about what kind of music do you like, or am I wrong?



How can you say that a person's interests and his discussion on that matter is meaningful while others are not?

Either include both or exclude both.

This is the problem, everyone here think that if someone is wearing a sig ad is 'padding his post count' but this is not against the rules (if your posts are substantial and constructive). We should not generalize ....
2966  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Appeal to Sig-Campaign Managers to Exclude "Meta" & "Politics & Society" on: April 20, 2015, 01:55:31 PM
I don't see your point. Why are you asking signature campaign managers to exclude posts made in the politics section? There is meaningful conversation there, probably more so then in many other sections.

I would repeat my solution to shit posts in the forum would be for campaign managers to do a better job of weeding out shit-posters.

this goes as well as my solution for this problem. By excluding some boards it will be like mitigating the spammers to another boards. In the end this will not stop the problem of the spam posts itself but rather move it. Best thing to do is the campaign manager need to be stricter and denied payment for everyone who did a shit posts whatsoever

It seems that it doesn't exist a real solution for the problem, because the solution is not 'ban some forum section'.  @hilariousandco, can I ask you what do you think about the signature campaigns? Ban or not?
2967  Economy / Lending / Re: Need a 0.026BTC loan. Will repay on thursday. on: April 20, 2015, 01:44:28 PM
Username : thebitcoinquiz.com
Bitcoin address : 34PcQgdjmU5fWPLiFpYvDTscXM33pNp3Vt
Loan Amount : 0.026BTC
Why do you need a loan ? : Short of buying some stuff
How do you plan to repay your loan ?  : Signature campaign
Will repay on Thursday with 10% interest included.

Thanks.

do you have any valid collateral to offer?
No.
I have repaid many loans earlier and haven't defaulted any single loan.
Now a request to others, please don't ask me for a collateral again and again(specially people with paid signatures) cause I don't have one, don't start explaining me ethics and rules, only loan if you can trust me.

Sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/5225596e01e26e7acfd6a8ea8a02158a34edc31ac1d2a63927a0180e278e4b7d

Please pay back to the same address.
2968  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Appeal to Sig-Campaign Managers to Exclude "Meta" & "Politics & Society" on: April 20, 2015, 01:29:19 PM
I agree with the Quickseller's idea, the signature campaign maintainers should accept only the valid users (check them with the last posts). We should remember also another thing, what is the problem : the post or the sig ad?

2969  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Pywallet 2.2: manage your wallet [Update required] on: April 20, 2015, 12:06:26 PM
I want to connecting pywallet into wallet.dat, then appear the message

Code:
C:\Users\adi\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin>pywallet.py --wallet="wallet.dat"

'ecdsa' package is not installed, pywallet won't be able to sign/verify messages
A mandatory option is missing

why  Huh

"ecdsa" package is needed to sign/verify messages. If you don't sign/verify messages, it isn't needed. IMHO using localhost is better. Try doing it. I haven't played with Pywallet for sometime now. So I don't remember commands. You can get it by running pywallet.py --help.

It is missing the ecdsa.py 'package' : https://github.com/warner/python-ecdsa  you should download it and put it in the python folder (C:\Python27\Lib).
You can find the package also here : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ecdsa/0.13
2970  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you enforce a smart contract on: April 20, 2015, 11:56:35 AM
I think this mainly boils down to the fact that you're using the blockchain or Bitcoins to prove ownership. The actual execution has to be done by regular means: Courts, police, lawyers, etc.

The problem here is that 'any governments' don't recognize the bitcoin blockchain, so a contract will be valid only if it is between private parts; but if one of those part wants to 'enforce' the contract I do not think the government will accept it.

Well in many countries you can actually form contracts as you like - at least within the legal boundaries and to certain extents. If courts accept the blockchain as enough of a proof, then the contract may have decent chances of being recognized, I believe...

Here in italy (for example) a person has opened a company and the contribution of assets was all in bitcoin, as you can see here:

- http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/04/12/oraclize-company-bitcoin-incorporation/

So I think in some country the 'bitcoin blockchain' is recognized at 100%
2971  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.07 Btc Loan on: April 20, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
Can you provide another 'valide collateral'? I do not think the amazon code is a valid collateral (because you also know the code) and the domain does not worth 0.07 btc.


No sadly i don't have any other valid collateral.

...but i do have other collateral.
The lenders just want to secure their loan in case the loanees default the loan! The collateral can be liquidate right away to recover the loan! It is the rule here no collateral no loan! Otherwise you will be given red flag! Good luck for you!

Exactly I cannot accept a gift amazon card as collateral, because also you (FlossinRod) know the code and you can redeem it whenever you want. It should be a valid collateral, if you don't know what could be a valid collateral... then check this post:

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.msg6311902#msg6311902
2972  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you enforce a smart contract on: April 20, 2015, 11:27:58 AM
I think this mainly boils down to the fact that you're using the blockchain or Bitcoins to prove ownership. The actual execution has to be done by regular means: Courts, police, lawyers, etc.

The problem here is that 'any governments' don't recognize the bitcoin blockchain, so a contract will be valid only if it is between private parts; but if one of those part wants to 'enforce' the contract I do not think the government will accept it.
2973  Economy / Services / Re: Send 1k PMs and get $80 in btc - Urgently Need 25 persons. on: April 20, 2015, 10:53:06 AM
Don't feed the 'troll' do you really thing he will pay you 80 $ (in bitcoin?) to send 1'000 PMs (in this case it will be considered spam and I am sure that account will be banned).


PS: It  is so risky, and I do not suggest anyone to do this work.
2974  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.07 Btc Loan on: April 20, 2015, 10:45:51 AM
Can you provide another 'valide collateral'? I do not think the amazon code is a valid collateral (because you also know the code) and the domain does not worth 0.07 btc.
2975  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Controversial Dark Web Bitcoin Bot Released from Custody on: April 20, 2015, 10:33:29 AM
How was the bot confiscated?

It doesn't make sense.
They mean the computer that was hosting it?
And they had no backups of the bot/code anywhere else?

It really doesn't make sense.....



Yes of course, it is really insane. How can they confiscate a 'bot'? I think they have only seized one copy but there are a lot of other copies.


I think you have already read this article:


«Can a robot, or a piece of software, be jailed if it commits a crime? Where does legal culpability lie if code is criminal by design or default? What if a robot buys drugs, weapons, or hacking equipment and has them sent to you, and police intercept the package?» These are some of the questions Mike Power asked when he reviewed the work «Random Darknet Shopper» in The Guardian.

https://wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.bitnik.org/r/2015-01-15-statement/
2976  Economy / Lending / Re: redsn0w's loans [For reference] on: April 19, 2015, 06:44:58 PM
Bump.
2977  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should I move my cold storage to multisig? on: April 19, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
I suggest you to use a multi address, or better use greenAddress the web wallet with a lot of features. Check it here:

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521988.0


However in that case you have asked for a cold storage so it should be "offline" then in that case the type of address does not matter (so much).
2978  Other / Meta / Re: Are links supposed to work in personal texts? on: April 19, 2015, 06:00:37 PM
I think it is due an extension or add-in, you should ask Slark but I think he already gave you the answer:


It doesn't? I must have some add on for my browser then because https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1031739.msg11135112#msg11135112 this user's personal text is for me a clickable link, I will provide screenshot with that asap.
...

But still, what add on will do that? What is the real use of the said add-on? lol.

So, I assume links are not really supposed to work for personal texts?
lol. I was wondering whether it was just me.. Wink

I know, but why open a thread here instead to send a quickly and simple PM to Slark? I think that he will (obviously) give you the name of that add-on without any type of problem?
2979  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.15 loan | Valid LTC collateral on: April 19, 2015, 05:57:30 PM
If loan isn't fulfilled by redsn0w, send me a PM. Thanks!

I think this time I will pass and I have already contact him through PM. So I think you can give him the loand without any type of problem, good luck.

2980  Other / Meta / Re: Are links supposed to work in personal texts? on: April 19, 2015, 05:53:08 PM
I think it is due an extension or add-in, you should ask Slark but I think he already gave you the answer:


It doesn't? I must have some add on for my browser then because https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1031739.msg11135112#msg11135112 this user's personal text is for me a clickable link, I will provide screenshot with that asap.
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