Yeah, its this whole propritary "bitstream" thing that turns me off to these for the most part. That and the overhyped and underdelivered software. And I was so close to wanting to believe in this...
Proprietary bitstreams? Wait are you upset about how bitstreams work in general or do you not understand that anyone can release a bitstream for the devices? once additional reason for getting fpgas was something to learn and possible code for. and as such devices come on line there will be more coders writing bitsteams for them. i figure in about 10 years i will be good enough to make a led blink on a fpga dev kit. also gpuhoarder mentioned currently there are not a lot of fpga coders out there. and the money for their time is not worth it for proprietary stuff compared to a 4% dev fee times 5000 bcu, maybe a thousand cvps, and another thousand vcu. in short, right now its generally more profitable to release for the allmine shell at 4% |
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buns a mile across with a 1 inch piece of meat?
there's a saucy picture out there no doubt illustrating your double entendre but it's probably best left to the imagination. roach with a hamplanet anyone? oh man forgot what thread i was in. please God no |
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It always seem to happen like that. Fuck. I am going to quit this McieD's bullshit (and having to rub elbows with the likes of jbreher for 4 hours) as soon as I can get enough money for my own apartment. You fuckers.  Inb4 jbreher leaves the franchise to run his own burguer place where you can order the TRUE BigMac (XXXXL size - Ronald Mcdonald Vision) buns a mile across with a 1 inch piece of meat? |
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Don't forget that you need to get the bitstream from the devs with time to roi as well.
sure, we get ours after all the farms that pay for private bitstreams and regulars guys in secret bitstream clubs are done. then after that, the pions like me will get the public bitstreams, just in time for reletive scraps.. IOW, same old same old but now with fpgas. |
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last bull run gpus were almost impossible to get. and thats with nvidia and amd shoveling them out the door as fast as they could. if this happens again.. well there are a lot less fpgas to be had than there were gpus. having a few fpgas and knowing their limitations, strengths and needs will make a big difference. try building a good fpga or fpga boosted gpu based system without knowing what they need or how they function.. have fun. sure guides for noobs will come out but too late for many.
Ya but what about the fact that most coin dev's are doing what they can to keep asic and fpga's off their chain fpga's will never be a decentralized miner until one come's out that don't cost $4000-$5000 especially right now once they start flooding the chain profits are going to be shit and it'll take 10 years to ROI fpgas will come down in price, i mean an midrange acorn is what $300? ..cheap to get your fpga feet wet. and as for the race against devs changing algos.. well algos need a lot of testing, you dont just whip something up and risk the future of a coin on some new algo thats possibly faulty or can be gamed. in a race between fpga coders vs devs coming up with algo after algo? ill bet on the fpga coders. if my bet is wrong.. oh well. |
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those who bought and kept them knew the risk when we rolled the dice. and the dice are still rolling. software will come out. as for roi, if i lose 99% of what i put in, oh well. it was an amount i was willing to lose. annoying for sure, but nothing to lose sleep over.
Definitely agree it's a bet to have the ultimate hedge, and at even $~$300 it was a cheap bet. It's at minimum a great tool to learn as we all can see the writing on the wall, fpga is the future of most mining. If this just teaches me how to load bitstreams and configure them I much rather do it on $300 hardware before I do it on $5000+ hardware. agreed. i think fpga, with or without gpu assist, is minings future, and fpga are different beasts with different rig requirements. and if/when the next bear run occurs, those that understand how the tech runs will be ahead. $300 for an acorn to get in the game now and start learning is a no brainer to me. last bull run gpus were almost impossible to get. and thats with nvidia and amd shoveling them out the door as fast as they could. if this happens again.. well there are a lot less fpgas to be had than there were gpus. having a few fpgas and knowing their limitations, strengths and needs will make a big difference. try building a good fpga or fpga boosted gpu based system without knowing what they need or how they function.. have fun. sure guides for noobs will come out but too late for many. |
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Why are we still here? Bitcoin is dead.
we cant leave. we are too paralyzed with shock and fear. |
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The check is in the mail.....
hey! im making ~40 cents USD a day on my acorns mining ZP - so in a mere 6.5 years ill hit ROI and be rolling in da moneyz  actually i would need to find an exchange that lists it and that i can use 1st.. hell i dont even know what this shitcoin im mining is. anyway. those who bought and kept them knew the risk when we rolled the dice. and the dice are still rolling. software will come out. as for roi, if i lose 99% of what i put in, oh well. it was an amount i was willing to lose. annoying for sure, but nothing to lose sleep over. that said, i too sure hope sqrl come up with some serious bitstreams and software soon. this wait is getting monotonous. |
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oh man
a topic where i need to think before posting?
im not used to this.
$4422
thanks mic!
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The overall feeling was similar to other bear markets - agony, despair, etc. However, many of us took to heart the rumors of bitcoin's demise. It seemed likely that bitcoin would, at best, remain something of a hobby for cypherpunks. OTOH, the despair was different. It was more about the loss of a dream, and less about the loss of money. Since BTC was so cheap, most people only had like a few grand invested, at most. Unlike Dec. 2017-18 when even the shoeshine boy lost $100K+.
You guys deserve respect for persevering through that. You pretty much blazed the trail that we could look back on for confirmation that Bitcoin would survive the worst. just wanted to confirm what infofront posted about 2011 - 2012. i started mining late(ish) 2011, at first using an existing ATI HD4850 on my gaming rig (my main distributed computing rigs, nvidias on folding@home, stayed on that), then dropping a couple grand on a rig built for BTC mining specifically. ATI HD6870 and HD5830s where the gotos at that point it was more or less surreal as back then, for me it was just another experiment in distributed computing with a new kind of money storage theme, and distributed computing was very familiar to me from other projects. price was ~$10 when i started. went up to ~35. YES! then the loooong decline to ~$2. but i kept mining to support the experiment then, and really did not expect any monetary gains. but guess where a large part of my current stack is from. yup, the $2 per coin mining days. not that btc cant fail, but accumulation during the cheap coins day sure paid off for me. i intend to keep that strategy. |
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In the future I want to run a full node
I have questions
most info you need is in a link right in the 1st post: https://bitcoin.org/en/full-node#minimum-requirementsI need a very powerful computer?
no. a rasperry pi 3 would do. or an intel atom from any netbook. basically if the computer less than 10 years old it will do. How much hard disk Gb?
Hard disk HDD or SSD?
500 gb should last a few years at the rate the blockchain is growing. currently the blockchain is ~210gb. a ssd will make syncing faster but not needed, mechanical drives are fine for a node. blockchain growth chart can be found here: https://www.statista.com/statistics/647523/worldwide-bitcoin-blockchain-size/ |
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Did you receive a jtag cable with your acorn? Mine didn't have one, the FAQ does state they come with one.
I need one so I can test the stand alone but I'm sure we'll get the assist software soon. I do wish we had some good updates.
Anyone know the discord?
no jtag cables came with my acorns. i do have a jtag cable i cobbled up for an avr dragon programmer i used to reprogram some bfl stuff back in the day. if i need it for anything acorn or bcu related i hope i can use/adapt it. but jtag cables are cheap. no? havent heard much about jtag use for acorns on discord though, as least as it relates to acorns. but i miss a lot of stuff there. fpga acorn discord link: https://discord.gg/TYNAeymay only last a day, if it doesnt work lemme know ill post another |
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Gentlemen and JJG,
We are allergic to whales.
gonna put that in my allergy list in my medical record. can this be used to our advantage as an early warning system? several people in WO post they are getting a rash at the same time, something big is about to happen? |
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Have you seen that GPUHoarder is already mentioning (or testing ground) that there might not really be any viable GPU boost and the effort is going to be focused on Acorn solo mining (for some obscure coins)?
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GPUHoarderToday at 8:45 PM
@Bazzaar if I had every confidence that we had community support and I wasn’t going to be immediately pressed to take returns by buyers who aren’t making the ROI they need, I would absolutely love for the next GPU Assist algos, further optimization, and tuning to be my focus. I love this stuff."
yup. on some algos/coins if you run the profit numbers with the low power use and hash rate of the acorns stand alone vs gpu assist and its power savings and hash increase for the gpu, sometimes standalone mode can make more profit. depends on algo and the coin cost. but pretty sure most all of us bought them with gpu boost in mind. gpuhoarder definitely needs to provide the official gpu assist miner. and let the miner decide standalone vs assist. we always knew standalone mining was doable on the 215s, that was advertised pretty early on. and now it turns out the 101 can too. |
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I am just amazed that people in sqrl-acorn Discord are wasting their time constantly troubleshooting their Acorn configurations without (almost) any gains, as far as crypto mining is concerned. I know that GPU mining is mostly unprofitable now but why add to it with the loss of time?
mainly im learning the hardwares limits. fpga is unlike other computer hardware in a lot of ways. basically messing around now with things like fan direction and flow, adding thermal pads and sinks, finding voltage and temp limits etc. lota mix and match with my gear, 2 systems to test in with various combinations of gpus, nests, and acorns. naturally, the real gpu assist stuff would sure be nice but in the meantime im not going to just watch them in a box, im going to play with them. once the real miner drops i will be in good shape as far as my understandings of the hardware and its limits. |
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It's a shame not to have been here at the beginning of Bitcoin, you are part of something very special.
it 1st showed up on my radar mid 2011 when a few computer tech sites started posting about it. i happened to have hardware that met the gpu requirements, so figured why not? i had no idea it would take off as it has, figured it was just a neat experiment on digital money. although in retrospect i should have. When someone asks me what Bitcoin is, I try to explain what it is and take the opportunity to tell him to read a bit about Bitcoin, one of the books that is pretty well explained is Mastering Bitcoin Unlocking Digital Cryptocurrencies.  yup, got that book on my end table. a must read for anyone who wants to understand (or at least understand better) btc rather than just use it. |
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my node is a "part time" full node, and lives on my daily driver desktop. no pruning i want the entire blockchain so i can validate it myself, even off line, right to the genesis block if need be. its only 206 gb, well within even old home computer specs. i just point it to its own dedicated ssd.
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keeping blocks and bandwidth requirements small(ish) to the point where basically anyone, with almost any computer from the last 10 years or so, can run a full on node with mainstream (or below to a point) internet is a main strength of btc imo.
everyone who uses btc should be able validate the blockchain themselves if they want, which would need a full node with a full copy of the blockchain. else why trust it?
Very interesting message, a conventional PC running a full node online with a 1.5 Mbs Internet connection, perfect, this is the goal. i should clarify that running a full or part time node on your daily driver isnt the ideal way to do so, but as ive shown it can certainly be done. dedicated hardware is better, an off the shelf system from the last decade should be able to handle it. even some netbooks from a while ago should have the chops and those are dirt cheap. 320 gig drive, atom cpu, ubuntu or other flavor of linux.. poof, btc node. reason mine is still on a daily driver is im lazy, and because back in 2011, when i first installed the btc wallet and started mining, it was to my desktop at that time. this same wallet/node has just been moved to the replacement daily drivers when i build new ones. i was in it more for the tech then, the "magic interetz money" bit was a fun meme that possibly might help pay for my gaming videocards, but hardly one i took seriously until i had leaned a lot more about how banks and fiat worked. once i understood the whitepaper and its implications.. well thats when the tech took a second seat to the real meaning of btc.. which is be your own bank. as for keeping btc on a node on a daily driver desktop.. well mine has pocket change. how your main stack of btc should be secured really depends on your comfort and knowledge level of hardware, software, security. if its an amount that you cant risk, paper wallets, hardware wallets, air gapped computer wallets.. all these and more are options, and i would use a combination of them. |
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Instead of waiting around drinking alcohol, we could make a WO altcoin, bring out an ico and everything...And drink alcohol. Who would be on board?
need to back it, but with what? number of cases of alcohol poisoning? possibly could be onto something here. |
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 who is who in this drawing  needs to be a guy who is hodling while sleeping peacefully. |
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