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2961  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin frontpage of FT magazine on: June 14, 2013, 09:07:08 PM
I'm feeling the price will explode upwards once market sentiment against the manipulators is forgotten about or so predictable that the whales end up losing money.

This news is very bullish, our market cap is so small that even 1% investment from some of the FT whales would prop us up at least $20.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197892.0
2962  Economy / Speculation / Re: Long term down trend? on: June 14, 2013, 08:55:21 PM
Too many people try to not catch the bottom in contrast to not trying to catch it.

If that it too complicated: If you happen to catch it, why not?
2963  Local / Biete / Re: Investment für Kleinanleger on: June 14, 2013, 08:32:02 PM
Hahaha es geht also los.

Haben alle ihr Popcorn? Grin
2964  Other / Meta / Re: Making self-moderated threads more sensible on: June 14, 2013, 08:27:10 PM
I'd remove that function. I never have seen practical use of it so far.
2965  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin frontpage of FT magazine on: June 14, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
What is the ft magazine?
financial times

its site seem pretty popular
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ft.com#

Some newspapers have a free small format "magazine" in them on weekends, and a TV program on Wednesday. Is that it?
2966  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin frontpage of FT magazine on: June 14, 2013, 08:17:48 PM
What is the ft magazine?
2967  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin should be at $13,500 ? on: June 14, 2013, 03:55:26 PM
The error in this calculator is that it presents the percentage of "store of value" and "black market" to unrealistic values.

If you enter more realistic values like 0.01% in there you come to more realistic values.
2968  Economy / Speculation / Re: FUD Thread: Highly negative spin on bitcoin at tomorrow's Washington conference. on: June 14, 2013, 01:34:46 AM
Contrary to what the idiots think this is actually bullish.

Care to elaborate?

Recognition, in some semi official way. As long as everything is operating in a legal gray area it can never be taken serious by anybody but private individuals. But companies or "legal persons" if you will need some boundaries.  That these are established now, which is very soon makes this bullish.
2969  Economy / Speculation / Re: FUD Thread: Highly negative spin on bitcoin at tomorrow's Washington conference. on: June 13, 2013, 11:53:16 PM
Contrary to what the idiots think this is actually bullish.
2970  Economy / Speculation / Re: Flashcrash this month on: June 13, 2013, 11:11:02 PM
but there are people out there who spend most of their waking moments doing FUD-cancelling maneuvers, or trying anyway.  

now that's pathetic
2971  Other / Off-topic / Re: Elitist Bitcoin Clubs on: June 12, 2013, 11:22:15 PM
2,100,000 Satoshi (aka The Herder)
210,000 Artforz (aka The Sidekick)
21,000 The Real Vladimir (aka the Dog)
2,100 - 0.00000021 Sheep (aka the Sheep)


You want Elite? I give you Elite.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
2972  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 12, 2013, 10:10:22 PM
we all want cheap coins to profit from them. even the most bullish


except the buy-and-holders.

Nah, I'd still buy some cheap coins.

Dollar cost averaging.

But I'm sure there are people out there that put most of their investment money into BTC at a high price and are still holding. When price plummets, they can purchase more, but their average cost per BTC is still going to be high.

But fellas like you with deep pockets it's a different story. During a crash you might be able to match the initial investment to bring the average cost of BTC so low that you are then almost at break-even.



I don't have deep pocket's but the averaging thing doesn't hold up for all of us.
I'm a relatively newcomer and am trying to make a living on BTC without daytrading.
This is harder then it sounds.
 

I'd say it's unrealistic to expect succeeding in such an effort unless you have masters in math/computer science and/or finance. And in that case you probably won't need bitcoin to make a decent living...
2973  Economy / Speculation / Re: I have seen the light on: June 12, 2013, 09:02:12 PM
Check this:



check that
2974  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 12, 2013, 08:55:14 PM
Nah there's enough bulls. Only thing is they want 'cheap' coins at sub 80...
so everybody's waiting for further crashing/deflation.
We just need to wait for the impatient to make a move.
some might call this 'consolidaition' but I think most are just waiting for 'cheap' coins
we have to go to at least 'cheap' coins before we go 'up,up,up'

Up up up and then new people want cheaps coins and then the people after them etc

I don't want cheap coins, I want free dollars.

Long term bulls are super long time bears....

I'm a long term bull. Super longtime I'll likely be dead. If my demise can be diverted (or considerably postponed) I'll change my investment strategies accordingly.

I'm planning to be alive and kickin in two decades, don't know about you. I would be severely disappointed if nothing has come up which out-innovated bitcoin big scale, not the future I have in mind...

Twp decades barely classifies as long term, let alone super long term. Super long term is a couple of centuries.

Well everybody is different. Then in your eyes I am a mid term bull long time bear. I think there is a significant chance that humanity is extinct in your super long term.
2975  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 12, 2013, 08:49:17 PM
Nah there's enough bulls. Only thing is they want 'cheap' coins at sub 80...
so everybody's waiting for further crashing/deflation.
We just need to wait for the impatient to make a move.
some might call this 'consolidaition' but I think most are just waiting for 'cheap' coins
we have to go to at least 'cheap' coins before we go 'up,up,up'

Up up up and then new people want cheaps coins and then the people after them etc

I don't want cheap coins, I want free dollars.

Long term bulls are super long time bears....

I'm a long term bull. Super longtime I'll likely be dead. If my demise can be diverted (or considerably postponed) I'll change my investment strategies accordingly.

I'm planning to be alive and kickin in two decades, don't know about you. I would be severely disappointed if nothing has come up which out-innovated bitcoin big scale, not the future I have in mind...
2976  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 12, 2013, 08:34:48 PM
Nah there's enough bulls. Only thing is they want 'cheap' coins at sub 80...
so everybody's waiting for further crashing/deflation.
We just need to wait for the impatient to make a move.
some might call this 'consolidaition' but I think most are just waiting for 'cheap' coins
we have to go to at least 'cheap' coins before we go 'up,up,up'

Up up up and then new people want cheaps coins and then the people after them etc

I don't want cheap coins, I want free dollars.

Long term bulls are super long time bears....
2977  Economy / Speculation / Re: I have seen the light on: June 12, 2013, 08:32:09 PM
Okay, this conversation has indeed happened many times so I'm going to provide you with some reading material instead because Erik Voorhees has worded it all quite nicely.

Firstly, Bitcoin  - The Libertarian Introduction (April 11th, 2012): http://evoorhees.blogspot.nl/2012/04/bitcoin-libertarian-introduction.html
Secondly, Bitcoin 2013 – The Role of Bitcoin as Money (May 23rd, 2013): http://evoorhees.blogspot.nl/2013/05/bitcoin-2013-role-of-bitcoin-as-money.html

Please continue the discussion after reading both of those Smiley

Listen, how about we cut to the chase:  I'll paste a couple of links to counter your couple of links, and then our links can take the conversation from there, deal?

Listen, these aren't merely links, these are two high quality easy to understand essays on the matter. Re-discussing this would require a very long topic and likely not get the point across judging by your posts.

If you are too lazy to read those articles, I'm too lazy to explain this further to you as I don't think you deserve to have the opportunity to benefit from this knowledge.

See you in a few years.

Erik Voorhees has made himself an icon in the Bitcoin community and he is a fantastic wordsmith -- I'll read those papers today for sure.  May have already  Wink

That wouldn't be so ironic if it wasn't for the Dunning Kruger Effect.
2978  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 12, 2013, 07:47:00 PM
Maybe you are right. I'm here to learn.
I am certain manipulation is going on.
If I had a shitload of coins I would try to kickstart the price with the fiat from previous dumps, let the bulls do the rest and then keep dumping to that range.

edit Any lower would ensure bear market for prolonged time. which would mean I have to wait to long for recovery

Yeah the thing is there are no bulls. Even the 111 and then 112 did not trigger any market making transactions, as some inc. Adam predicted ("I will be panic buying at 111 like everyone else". The only way is down.

As long as there is no down-turn there is no rush for that.
2979  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 12, 2013, 12:38:31 PM
starting to get a little more exciting now Smiley

Rally is called off, everyone go home.

"A watched pot never boils"

Everyone close down clarkmoody\bitcoincharts\bitcoinity\mtgoxlive\etc so the price can jump up...

If you pour hot water out of the tap into a pot your attention span must be about the one of a ADD patient not to be able to watch it.
2980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Get 5 FREE BTC if you edit your post on first page of Ripple Giveaway on: June 12, 2013, 02:06:15 AM
I demand my bitcoins for the services I performed for you. I support your cause as well, not just doing it for the btc.

I'll give you 5000 Dunning Krugerrands if you edit it to "Tradefortess scammed me out of 5 BTC" instead.
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