Customers are entitled to full refunds if they cancel their order, independently from the promised shipping date of a preorder. Full point. Remember that this does not apply to on-demand built stuff. Courts have to clarify first if it's really an on-demand order or just a preorder for a mass-produced article. I'm totally with you if it's the second one. Every BabyJet is 100% identical to every other BabyJet. Mass produced. Refunds must be available at any time. |
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- There will be no more preorders, everything is shipped within 24-48h depending on received order volume. We try to ship same day as much as we can.
Excellent news!!! |
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Excellent! That's more bitcoins for me! That's a whole lot of hashpower that won't come online anytime soon.
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Yes we've been working very hard for the last few weeks, all is good and on track. Boards just arrived
So post a pic of the board. It takes far less time to post a pic than it does to write a big long forum post. |
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Except the part where a avalon mini uses 600w+ by itself, almost 10w/ghash. This is 10 times as efficient.
Avalon, eww. Your real competition is MegaBigPower with 30 GH/s @ 2.5 BTC. |
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Seriously, because I can't find one, can anyone realistically point me towards anyone selling hardware that will at least pay for itself, even removing exchange rates and going purely on a BTC-for-BTC basis? Because I don't see that - anywhere.
The KnC offer looks pretty good. They've got a working product, and if they can deliver the next batch in November as promised, I think there's a high probability that it'll pay for itself in BTC. Part of that is due to the recently runup of BTC value. Two weeks ago you'd have had to pay too many BTC for a KnC order. |
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UPDATE: Two Credit Card Processors and Paypal has closed our accounts due to "risks associated with bitcoin hardware sales." We are not naive and we have reason to believe that these are actions from the Financial Industry to depress bitcoin mining hardware sales.
It's not their fault, they're just minimizing risk. BFL has utterly destroyed the reputation of bitcoin mining hardware by causing vast amounts of chargeback due to failing to deliver. |
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Lets assume this time they are right on time (0.0001% chance), yes it would ROI base on 30% difficulty increment but not 40%.
No, it's a 0% chance. Zero. Nada. Impossible for them to ship it on time. |
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Sorry, you picked the wrong betting site. They have a huge problem with deciding bets the right way. Try http://bitbet.us/. |
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Time to rerun the numbers. New difficulty 391648152.
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And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day.
It only took you 6 months to ramp up to the number of units KnC ramped up to in two weeks. WTG!!! Also, those KnC units are faster than your Minirigs. How many Minirigs did you ship in that day? |
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Yes, I paid with Paypal... but I am still nervous as grasshopper in a chicken coop.
Just be sure to open a non-delivery issue with PayPal before the 45-day window closes and you have nothing to worry about. |
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I also ordered a unit. Order #414. If they come through I will let everyone know and post a picture of it with a report on how it performs. I am praying they are legit. I think they are but this entire thing is very stressful. If they come through and deliver on time I will order another unit. I ordered on October 2nd so it should be shipping in another week and a half. If anybody else who ordered one gets a unit let us know.
I hope you paid with a credit card. |
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Yes, BFL was late. I've apologized for that numerous times.
Wow, an apology! How many BTC is that worth now that you're months late and difficulty is through the roof and the product you are delivering will never break even. You even said it yourself over a year ago... I know, for my part, I would not want a device that runs at 200w at 60 GH/s - it would never see a positive ROI.
BTW, how's that "August 2013" tapeout coming along. Still going to make that date that you're still advertising on your webpage? |
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It's very easy. BFL has delivered more than 20k mining devices and have more to go. Bitfury has not delivered any significant quantity of devices, nor has Avalon. ASICminer is the only one that has delivered any sort of significant quantity of devices at this point, and all of those are Block Eruptors, which are basically meaningless.
Are Block Eruptors mining devices or not? Have they shipped more of them than you? I'd wager they have. You lie. Again. |
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Wow, my math was messed up. Time to show my work:
Each 60Gh/s machine generates nearly .06/ day.
17 machines will generate 1.04/day at 1024 Gh/s (1 Th/s!)
17 machines at $1400 each = $23,800.
That's a lot of cash to get a bitcoin per day for a very limited time. It appears bitcoins are stupid cheap at $200 each.
But your numbers ignore the fact that BFL is way overpriced. You can get 1 TH/s for $10k. |
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What would be the best LIVE graph or stats to watch as this all unfolds?  as far as i know i just keep hitting refresh on mt.gox or look at my chrome widget. I am sure there is a better option? I like http://www.bitcoinity.org/markets/mtgox/USD. |
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answer to OP: right now  Wow. No kidding. POP. |
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I bought 5 starter kits and I obviously only need 1-2.
I'll sell a 32-37GH/s starter kit for $1200 OBO, includes 1 h-board, raspberry pi and 1 sd card with each kit. you will have to reimage the sd card.
3 starter kits for sale and they will probably get to you before this week is over.
I'd love to pickup another starter kit, but with h-boards already over priced at $500, your asking price is not interesting. |
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