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2961  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 15, 2014, 08:13:11 PM
this will end with some big war as Russia is trying to restore her lost status again.

Doubtful. You might find this thread in the responses and reasoning on that topic of possible invasion of Russia interesting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584031.0
2962  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine - The Odessa Massacre - What Really Happened on: May 15, 2014, 08:10:57 PM
Kiev protégé allegedly behind Mariupol and Odessa massacres – leaked tapes
http://rt.com/news/159168-kiev-businessman-massacre-mariupol/



Odessa massacre victims died in seconds, not from smoke – emergency service chief
http://rt.com/news/159028-odessa-victims-died-seconds/
2963  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 15, 2014, 07:55:33 PM
He-he. Merkel stated that tight cooperation with Russia must continue despite the crisis in Ukraine:
http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/26558211/merkel-zayavila-o-neobhodimosti-sotrudnichat-s-rossiej
2964  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 15, 2014, 07:25:12 PM
can someone translate this?

Here you go:





In news:

The People's governor of Lugansk put forth a new ultimatum to the Kiev forces:
They have one hour to remove block posts and retreat from the territory of the Republic:
http://ria.ru/world/20140515/1007951045.html



16 people are arrested in connection with the Odessa massacre:
http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/20140515220717.shtml



8 armed people in Lugansk forced their way into Zhotnevskij city-regional office building and stole lists of voters as well as the seal:
http://ria.ru/world/20140515/1007944856.html



Turchinov said that the 5-km area around the TV tower near Slavjansk has been clear out of the resistance (scorched out in his words):
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/15/n_6153433.shtml



Kiev protégé allegedly behind Mariupol and Odessa massacres – leaked tapes
http://rt.com/news/159168-kiev-businessman-massacre-mariupol/
2965  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 15, 2014, 07:01:27 PM
US will not allow UN to recognize Donetsk, Lugansk as democratic republic

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_05_14/US-will-not-allow-UN-to-recognize-Donetsk-Lugansk-as-democratic-republic-0009/

If the US administration can allow the UN to recognize breakaway states such as Kosovo, then what exactly is their problem if someone recognizes the People's Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk?

You answered yourself with this:

News just in: Lugansk National Republic nationalizes the heavy industry, including those factories owned by the disgraced oligarch Renat Akhmetov. A factory belonging to Donbassantratsit in Krasny Luch has been already taken over.

Plus, remember the Biden junior position.

Nice one:
Media double standards that cost lives. How Kiev govt came to power vs Donetsk Referendum:





Ukrainian APCs open fire at RT's video agency crew near Kramatorsk
http://rt.com/news/159216-rutply-ukraine-fire-attack/

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RT's Ruptly video journalists came under fire as their car was targeted near the city of Kramatorsk, in eastern Ukraine. The shooting came from two APCs, the crew said.


PS: I see Pagan(ec) is at work again, spamming.
2966  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vice President Joe Biden's Son Joins Board Of Largest Ukraine Gas Producer on: May 15, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
The US has been conducting wars for the last 60 years or so, to gain possession of additional natural gas / petroleum resources. Ukraine is just a small entry in that long list. The next nation to be there will be Iran.

Regarding Iran... Russia closed down 6 or 8 GPS calibration stations on its territory as US refused to have GLONAS stations on its. Now Russia said they will open some GLONAS calibration stations in Iran. What does it tell you?
2967  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 15, 2014, 02:49:36 PM
For the CNN, Donetsk is in Russia and Lugansk is close to Kiev.  Grin This shows a lot about the intelligence level of the average CNN reporter:




Oh, they blundered again, right after placing Ukraine in Pakistan!
2968  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 14, 2014, 08:34:50 PM
Unconfirmed info:
People in National Guard uniforms shot at and then set on fire Oleg Carev's neighbour's house, seemingly mistaking it for the house of Oleg Carev.


New fighting going on near Kramatorsk:
http://ria.ru/world/20140514/1007798091.html



Central Elections Committee of Donetsk Republic refused to conduct elections of the Ukrainian president:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/14/n_6152293.shtml



People in Odessa did not die from suffocating by smoke. They died very swiftly, not suffocating from fire smoke.
http://ria.ru/world/20140514/1007799251.html

2969  Other / Politics & Society / 'Lift the skirt’ campaign urges French schoolboys to skip trousers for a day on: May 14, 2014, 08:16:41 PM
'Lift the skirt’ campaign urges French schoolboys to skip trousers for a day
http://rt.com/news/159000-france-schoolboys-skirts-equality/

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Nantes education authorities have launched a 'Lift the Skirt' campaign to support gender equality. Under the campaign, male students and teachers of 27 public schools are invited to wear skirts on May 16, sparking controversy in the western French city.

The idea to swap trousers for skirts in a stand against sexism originated from pupils themselves, and was sanctioned by the city's school authorities and therefore by the Ministry of Education, the Local reported.

That's all and fine, but "students themselves" are just children, who mirror what the society around them does...

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“We’ll do any old nonsense in the name of equality,” Olivier Vial, president of the conservative UNI party, said. “This move is inspired by the Day of the Skirt, whose original aim was to allow women to express their femininity in environments where it was often difficult. But this is just denying feminine and masculine identity.”

Well, all women wear trousers now, and zeitgeist says that all men should wear skirts. Then we'll all be equal. But should we?

What mental illness is our society suffering from?
2970  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 14, 2014, 07:17:16 PM
Earlier I had heard that some 5-6 APCs were under the control of the rebels in Slavyansk. What happened to these vehicles? Are they still under the rebel control? If they are under the rebel control, then why the rebels are not being able to put up a good fight?

As far as I know, nothing happened to them and the Republic is still keeping them.
Also, from the interview of the military leader of the self-defence forces, given a couple of weeks ago, he said that their objective was to defend their land with minimum loss of life on both sides. He said they were not keen on a civil war, so any military activity they performed was done so as to minimise losses.
The APCs that they managed to capture were kept for defensive purposes.
2971  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: May 14, 2014, 06:46:48 PM
Breaking! US Planned to Turn Crimea into Military Base Against Russia

http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/breaking-us-planned-to-turn-crimea-into-military-base-against-russia/

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The information coming to the surface now shows that if Crimea stayed as part of Ukraine, it would have become a huge NATO/US military base. I seriously doubt that the people of the Crimea would have stood for that, but if such a thing did happen, it would have meant WWIII as Russia would never allow it. From this perspective it’s especially clear why NATO, USA and EU were so shocked that Russia decisively accepted Crimea back. They already considered it theirs.

The highlighted quote:

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The goal of all these plans was to turn Ukraine into a geopolitical black hole – a massive weapon against Russia on its borders. The diabolical nature of the plan was to pit against each other two very close, brotherly peoples, essentially to pit against each other two parts of a single culture; have them fight against their own interests and in the interests of the US. Hitler once said that only when they succeeded in making Russians living in Ukraine believe they were not Russian, would they win. US/EU almost succeeded in making it happen, but not quite.

EU/US have gone a slightly different route. I see quite a lot of comments on Ukrainian sites, reiterating that Ukrainians are Slavic, while Russians are not. Also, note this year's EuroVision song from Poland "We are Slavic". Yes, they are. But I wonder if there was an alternative agenda there...
2972  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 14, 2014, 06:38:19 PM
The figures just don't add up. The total GDP for entire Ukraine is around $170 billion. So around 60% of that was from Crimea?

The GDP figure of $170 billion might be the official figure, i.e not including the underground economy. In nations such as Ukraine, most of the economy remains hidden.

That would be one explanation for such outburst.
Crimea was a region that got suckled lifeless by Ukraine. When I visited it in 2012, spending my vacation there, I had a feeling of returning to the end on 1980's. Nothing changed. No improvements. On the contrary, Yalta was a sorry sight, with many buildings ready to fall apart. The infrastructure was collapsing. Sevastopol was sightly better, while Simferopol was even worse.
All that despite a large visible amount of tourists, so the money were coming from tourism, yet none of it went to the development of the peninsula, but got redirected to the Kiev coffers.
By the way, Odessa, when I was there the same year, presented the same sight of neglect as Yalta.
2973  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 14, 2014, 03:28:31 PM
They've already claimed that referendum is "illegal"/"illegitimate"/"provocative"/"wrong"/whatever bullshit, even before it was started. So, all these articles about referendum are pretty senseless because there is no sense of proving or searching for violations while proceeding an "illegal"/"illegitimate"/"provocative"/"wrong" referendum. Except propaganda purposes, of course. Cheesy

Just to re-post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysrk9BKfEGQ
2974  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 14, 2014, 03:12:54 PM
USA started to search for the "sanctioned" oligarchs' and companies' assets so as to freeze them:
http://www.banki.ru/news/lenta/?id=6595331&r1=rss&r2=rambler.news

One of the reader comments is precious:

"Thank you, USA, for helping Russian law enforcements in their fight with corruption. Thank you very much!"

 Grin

There are actually quite a lot of comments reading along the same lines.
2975  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: May 14, 2014, 01:27:44 PM
Russian Ministry of Defence (infrastructure division) started deliveries of water to Crimea by deploying new pipelines from deep-water wells:
http://www.rg.ru/2014/05/14/vodoprovod-anons.html
2976  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 14, 2014, 01:25:14 PM
Self-defence forces in Slavjansk say they intend to switch from defensive to offensive tactics.
http://ria.ru/world/20140514/1007737964.html
2977  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VISA & MASTERCARD blocked Russians from accessing their money on: May 14, 2014, 01:22:46 PM
Lavrov stated today:

"There will be a replacement. Both Visa and MasterCard are already worried about losing our market share."
"It's all virtual money, virtual transactions, and anything virtual can be replicated, especially now, when both Russia and other countries have specialists who know how it works."
http://ria.ru/economy/20140514/1007758715.html

"Virtual money", eh? Does he know he is only one step from invoking Bitcoin?  Tongue Grin
2978  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: May 14, 2014, 01:18:06 PM
This is an old news item. But posting here because some people were going ballistic arguing that the Russians treated Crimean Tatars disrespectfully.

Muslim girl, 19, 'stoned to death after taking part in beauty contest'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392454/Muslim-girl-Katya-Koren-19-stoned-death-beauty-contest-Ukraine.html

I haven't followed the news, but one commentor wrote:

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Almira Pérez, United Kingdom, 2 years ago

You should investigate more about the news you put on your website, because Katya Koren is actually a 19 year-old Christian woman originally from Russia, who had been missing in Sovyetskiy-Crimea for a week according to Crimean Tatar responsibles. The murder was not committed because of any religious reason, whether Islam or Christianity, but after sexual harrasment by Bilal Gaziyev, 16, a Crimean Tatar. I wonder what's the problem with putting religion in everything and provoking people. It is a shame that we can't even trust the news we read.

Anyone knows more about the murder enquiry?
2979  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 14, 2014, 01:10:31 PM
On that note:
Dragging Ukraine into NATO negative for European security - Lavrov
http://rt.com/news/158908-lavrov-russia-ukraine-nato/

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“The seeds for the current crisis were sown in 2008 in April during the NATO summit in Bucharest, when NATO leaders stated in a declaration that Georgia and Ukraine would be in NATO,” the senior Russian diplomat told Bloomberg in an interview.

...

“The real aim of the United States is not to let Europeans to go on their own, not to let NATO lose the purpose of its existence and to keep Europe on a short leash,” Lavrov said.

...

“In the east of Ukraine there is a real war with heavy weapons shot. If this is something conducive to free and fair elections, then I don’t understand something in freedom and fairness,” he commented.

“Ukrainians are killing Ukrainians. I believe it is as close to a civil war as it can get,” Lavrov explained, referring to Kiev’s military operation being conducted in the Donetsk Region.
...

“If the West for the sake of revenge is ready to sacrifice its reputation as a reliable partner for the entire world economy and for the entire world financial system, if the United States is prepared to sacrifice its reputation as the holder of the key reserve currency, then it’s up to them to decide,” he said.

Also, Lavrov called the question of Donetsk and Lugansk joining Russia for "hypothetical". Wonder what he meant by that..? Smiley
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/14/lavrov/
2980  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine Crisis: US and Europe Plan to "Cut Off" Russia’s Gas Supply on: May 14, 2014, 12:01:10 PM
Heh, The Independent did phrase it as "Ukraine Crisis: US and Europe Plan to "Cut Off" Russia’s Gas Supply", thus implying that Russia is importing, rather then exporting gas.  Shocked Grin
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