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29601  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 28, 2016, 08:05:48 AM
All problems are human problems, even the religion ones.

In medieval times church [Christian] and state were so fused, you couldn't divide them on a hair breadth. Guess what happened then? Enlightenment happened.... lol  Cheesy Scientific breakthrough after breakthrough. So church authority diminished as science showed flaws in church [Christian] worldview. State gradually became sole official tax collector (because of separation of state and church) (but not solely in actuality; church continued as well (but now on its own), more cunningly, I would say). Church "authority" kept on diminishing as science kept on progressing more and more.

The God-of-the-Gap type of belief system is in grave danger if you ask me. Better revolutionize God concept, and thereby revolutionize spirituality and piety than cling to something that will never ever be the same again - thankfully, I might add.

All problems are human problems, even the religion ones.


Actually, it is science that is in grave danger.

Science has produced many of the conveniences of life... through scientific engineering, of course. We would like science to remain so that it can produce many more good things for us.

Science is at its pinnacle, however, and beginning to crumble. Why? Simply because scientists had no way to disprove God, and the more they tried, the more they proved His existence. Scientists don't talk about this very much. But the fact is, the more science attempts to discover the great, hidden wonders of the universe, the more they prove the existence of God.

This is why science has turned to theory. In science theory, scientists put together a bunch of science facts (and sometimes non-facts) as a new way to look at the combination of facts. Then they develop a conclusion about the theory. Often this conclusion suggests that the theory is fact, even though it is not proven to be fact.

People are seeing through this science deception. They are realizing that often the so-called science fact is based on what the scientists would like rather than on the truth. Graham Hancock is one of those who has discovered this in the field of archaeology. Donald E. Scott, Ph.D., and many others are finding out that stars are electrical in nature, and not atomic. Brian Cox has shown that Quantum Mechanics is pure probability, and that it can give no proven answers answers to anything alone, because it can give completely contradicting answers to everything. And there are many more.

Science as we know it is breaking down as the source for all knowledge. Why? Because many famed scientists have built and explained science according to their hopes and dreams rather than according to the truth.

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29602  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 28, 2016, 07:26:15 AM
Brexit: Truth And Consequences



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDkTwIQpxvM



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Time for Texas to have an America-style Brexit - a "Texit."


• Doesn't the Texas Constitution reserve the right of Texas to secede?
• Didn’t the outcome of the “Civil War” prove secession is not an option for any State?
• Didn’t the U.S. Supreme Court in Texas v. White prove secession is unconstitutional?
• Is Texas really ripe for a secession movement?
• How would Texas—and Texans—benefit from secession?
• Are there any organized efforts to promote a Texas secession?
• Why exactly are y'all selling bumper stickers?


Read more at https://www.texassecede.com/faq.php.


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29603  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coincidence that Sun and Moon seem same size or God's work? on: June 27, 2016, 11:45:02 PM
For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is

Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD

I wonder how you will feel when you grow very old, die and find out that there is a God after all... He just can't be seen with the physical eyes.

By the way, I want to ask you a question, did your computer exist by accident?

Because you evolutionist claim that the universe, which is the most complicated thing in existence happened by accident!
How many times did your chocolate waffles happen by accident?

Waiting for your answer...

You do not understand evolution at all... I will explain

Evolution starts with small, random changes...

If the change is beneficial, the person will live longer, and have more sex, more children, spreading their genes
If the change is not beneficial... the person will die sooner, and not have many children

Over the course of millions of generations, these small changes add up into large changes... while survival of the fittest makes sure that only the best genes survive


It really is not far off from your computer analogy... computers have evolved too... I have a stick of RAM that used to hold 1MB... nowadays the same size and shaped stick can hold a million times as much information...

My first computer did not have a sound card... the sound card is equivalent to an animal evolving a new organ, like a liver or gall bladder

A big difference is that computers don't have sex to reproduce... kinda rules out the process of evolution through random mutations, survival of the fittest, and gene pools... humans decide which changes are beneficial and implement them... this is artificial selection (similar to how we breed dogs)

If there is a beneficial mutation in a person, the immune system T-cells will gather around it and destroy it, because it is different... same as they would a detrimental mutation.

The odds that any beneficial mutation could exist against the immune system are so high as to be absolutely impossible.

Nobody has found a natural beneficial mutation in a living being that is absolutely not attributable to causes other than mutation at the same time.

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29604  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Women beating men; is it common? on: June 27, 2016, 11:30:53 PM
may it common in your area but not in your area. but not in my area. in our area women respect their husband. they take care of their children. they also prepare meal for them when they are on duty. this is our society so in our society women even cannot think about to beat the men.

 I don't even know what society you are speaking of yet I would venture that some of the women are always thinking about beating the living shit out of some of the men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA99GfBBSZM

 Cheesy
29605  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: June 27, 2016, 11:17:09 PM
^ why not? That is not a bad poll result for someone not well known. Although some maybe chose him as protest against the other choices more than anything.

I agree. The military has to obey the President.    Cool


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Excuse my poor photoshop skills.

It's okay, all our heads are hurting.

Drink some bleach. You will forget the headache for the stomach ache.

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29606  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More than 1,200 new planets that could hold life found on: June 27, 2016, 10:50:36 PM
i think these are just supposition and no reality about such news. still it is believe that earth is the only planet where life exist and still the astronomer found not a single planed where they have found the life source. may be there are some other planets where life exist but still the scientist have not reached to them and they news about 1200 planet is just the supposition and there is a single one where life exist.
To some extent life exists in every planet, may be that differs a lot in characteristics that we call being living in our planet. As the universe is so vast and our science and technology evolve rapidly, we can expect more exciting this kind of news in future.



Evolution is impossible - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0.

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29607  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 27, 2016, 10:26:17 PM
Interesting how the cash of the poor always ends up in the coffers of the religion keepers - the sophisticated wealthy ones who 'act' as gods themselves with their insatiable lust for more and more, while preying on the emotions of the 'lost' poor and draining them till all is gone and they die.

Thank GOD crypto is open to all, neutral and unbiased.

In America, among Christian religions, money is not generally taken from the poor by force. Rather, the poor donate it to God, to continue the work of spreading God's word. This doesn't mean that the money is always used in a right way. But the point is that God's Word is spread, and along with it, salvation. God rewards the poor who give, in all kinds of ways for their generosity and love. And, they will end up with eternal life, which is way more important.

Those who spread Gods Word directly - the religious leaders - are doing a great and wonderful work. They deserve to get paid just like anyone else who works. And since this work is saving souls for eternal life, it is the best work there is, and should be rewarded accordingly. It's too bad that some religious leaders are drawn away towards the things of wealth and this life, and start to use the wealth improperly. If they don't change, they will be punished for this, by God.

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What are you talking about?  They operate as tax free scams.  They use the same techniques as a Nigerian boiler room scam artist would use.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367070.0

Have you been living under the rock?  Or you are in denial of everything that shows how ridiculous your religion is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek




Tax free scams!!!  Aren't you even starting to realize that taxation is the scam?  Haven't you been looking at Meet Karl Lentz at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1512214.0 ?

Government is the religion that is trying to shut down the competition. Or are you part of them?

Wake up.

Cool


Politics is OT for this thread. Please try to keep on topic, BADecker.

What Huh? Politics is a religion, and one that atheists often adore. ^^^

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29608  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: June 27, 2016, 10:22:39 PM
Islam is the most peaceful religion of the world. it teach us that respect all the other religions of the world and do not abuse about these religions and and about their followers. so i can easily say that Islam never have any one. may be some people are their who just want to create a bad image of Islam for this purpose they are creating such kind of images of the people but over all Islam is a peaceful religion and it respect the other religions and their follower.


Islam is not a bunch of Muslims who don't know much about their religion, and who go against their religion of Islam by being peaceful. Islam is what is written in the Koran and Hadiths:
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).  The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse).  The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.  Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

 

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

 

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

 

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".  This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

 

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."  The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

 

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

 

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

 

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."  Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

 

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

 

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

 

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"  Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for  2:193).  The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.  Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.  The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).  Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.  According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

 

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

 

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

 

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.  Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

 

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

 

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars).  This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.  Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).  The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.  Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

 

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

 

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."  The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad".  The context is obviously holy war.

 

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."  "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.  This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

 

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."  This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

 

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."  See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"  This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."  Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.  It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

 

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."  How does the Quran define a true believer?

 

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

 

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."  Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."  (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

 

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion.  The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation.  One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).  However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude."  He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son.  (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia.  Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

 

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

 

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."   "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context.  It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

 

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.  Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."   This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers.  It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do.  If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

 

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."  Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad.  The wounded are to be held captive for ransom.  The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.  Those who kill pass the test.

 

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"   

 

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."  Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.'  Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?  This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

 

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"  Islam is not about treating everyone equally.  There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.  Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.

 

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"  Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.  This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."  (See next verse, below).  Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

 

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."  This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).  It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

 

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."  The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.  The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

Check out the rest at http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

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29609  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: June 27, 2016, 10:19:19 PM
I only have to quote this: "Consciousness drives evolution"? That goes against all the fossil evidence.

Actually, the fossil evidence is not a sufficient proof of Darwinism. According to Nobel Prize winner Chain:

"I would rather believe in fairies than in such wild speculation.

I have said for years that speculations about the origin of life lead to no useful purpose as even the simplest living system is far too complex to be understood in terms of the extremely primitive chemistry scientists have used in their attempts to explain the unexplainable that happened billions of years ago. God cannot be explained away by such naive thoughts.”

"To postulate, as the positivists of the end of the 19th century and their followers here have done, that the development and survival of the fittest is entirely a consequence of chance mutations, or even that nature carries out experiments by trial and error through mutations in order to create living systems better fitted to survive, seems to me a hypothesis based on no evidence and irreconcilable with the facts.

This hypothesis willfully neglects the principle of teleological purpose which stares the biologist in the face wherever he looks, whether he be engaged in the study of different organs in one organism, or even of different subcellular compartments in relation to each other in a single cell, or whether he studies the interrelation and interactions of various species."


Source: https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers#researchers_chain

Problems in evolution, brain science, quantum physics and cosmology all fade away with consciousness as an intrinsic feature of the structure of reality.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stuart-hameroff/darwin-versus-deepak-whic_b_7481048.html

Anyway, I thought you didn't believe on evolution.
I believe in evolution that is driven by consciousness.

The evidence for the theory of evolution by natural selection was not obtained through laboratory experiments. There is a huge amount of evidence for the theory of natural selection and virtually all scientists recognize it is reasonable to believe the theory based on that evidence.

Similarly,
The results of psychical research are reliable even when they are not obtained from repeatable laboratory experiments. Alfred Russel Wallace discovered the theory of natural selection at the same time Charles Darwin did. Wallace began as a skeptic but his great powers of observation, the same ones which led him to formulate the theory of natural selection, also forced him to accept that mediumistic phenomena proved the existence of supernatural intelligences.

A trained scientist, especially of those past times, was an objective and skilled observer and because of their skepticism cannot be considered analogous to a "true believer" whose bias might influence their perceptions.

You are deluded. "Mediumistic phenomena"Huh WTF is that?  Who are you, really, Napoleon or Genghis Khan?

Just check yourself into mental institution before you harm yourself or others.



Are you still going on about this? You really enjoy your science religion, don't you.

Natural selection is still selection. And selection that is as complex as this universe, or as complex as to be able to fit in this universe, can only be selection by God.

qwik2learn shows you a guy who proves that probability math precludes the possibility of evolution, and you simply want to ignore it? How in the world retarded are you, especially in trying to prove that you are that retarded?

"The Mathematical Impossibility of Evolution" as shown at http://www.icr.org/article/mathematical-impossibility-evolution/ is the thing that is wrong. It is wrong by bringing the beneficial evolution odds up to the same level as detrimental evolution odds, 1 to 1, rather than the thousands to 1 odds against beneficial evolution that it is normally and naturally present.

However, the big place where the http://www.icr.org/article/mathematical-impossibility-evolution/ site is wrong is where it doesn't even take into account any of the reactions that would immediately destroy every beneficial mutation immediately as it happened.

And the site still shows the trillions to 1 against the possibility of evolution even existing, just the way it stands, in giving beneficial evolution every illogical chance possible.

Lots of scientists have shown this, and you don't want to accept it? How in the world can you even live in a world so full of science fiction as yours is? Wake up to reality. IT DOESN'T HURT AT ALL TO LIVE IN A REAL LIFE.

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29610  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's like a religious practice to them. on: June 27, 2016, 09:59:30 PM

The thing is completely out of the context as none of the religions in the world ever would such things ever to thier disciples. Few rotten potatoes destroys the whole basket, similarly few idiots may take the good things from thier religion in such a negative way that creates a mayhem in the society as per my perception islam's teaching are very genuine and I'm damn sure that allah would never have said such things for his whole life.


you are absolutly wrong. bieng Muslim i can tell you that there is no such religious practice in Islam. why are spreading so false news about a religion. all religion are sacred and we should respect them. Islam is a peaceful religion and it teach the lession of respect forgiveness and equality. i think you need to study Islam first.


That's what we are trying to show you!

Islam is not a bunch of Muslims who don't know much about their religion, and who go against their religion of Islam by being peaceful. Islam is what is written in the Koran and Hadiths:
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).  The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse).  The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.  Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

 

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

 

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

 

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".  This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

 

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."  The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

 

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

 

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

 

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."  Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

 

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

 

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

 

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"  Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for  2:193).  The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.  Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.  The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).  Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.  According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

 

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

 

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

 

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.  Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

 

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

 

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars).  This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.  Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).  The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.  Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

 

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

 

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."  The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad".  The context is obviously holy war.

 

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."  "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.  This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

 

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."  This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

 

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."  See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"  This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."  Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.  It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

 

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."  How does the Quran define a true believer?

 

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

 

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."  Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."  (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

 

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion.  The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation.  One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).  However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude."  He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son.  (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia.  Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

 

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

 

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."   "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context.  It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

 

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.  Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."   This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers.  It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do.  If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

 

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."  Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad.  The wounded are to be held captive for ransom.  The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.  Those who kill pass the test.

 

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"   

 

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."  Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.'  Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?  This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

 

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"  Islam is not about treating everyone equally.  There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.  Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.

 

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"  Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.  This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."  (See next verse, below).  Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

 

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."  This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).  It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

 

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."  The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.  The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

Check out the rest at http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

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29611  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's like a religious practice to them. on: June 27, 2016, 09:52:46 PM
So by the sounds of it everybody of every religion is compelled to kill an alternate believer? I smell a business opportunity here. They need some type of religious murder dating site to link up people so they can kill each other at the same time.

That's so deceptive of you. You want to set up a religious-dating-site religion so that you can pick and choose the people your religion wants to kill. And most of those other religious "daters" will not even realize what's happening to them.

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29612  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 27, 2016, 09:08:10 PM
There is no scientific reason to love one’s neighbour or to respect human life . . . To argue that nothing exists which cannot be proved scientifically is the crudest of errors, which would eliminate almost everything we value in life, not only God or the human spirit, but love and poetry and music.

There are lots of common things in life and the world that are not scientific... simply because they have not been authorized by the scientific community to be scientific. Yet they exist in common and natural form all around us.

In other words, scientific reasons don't mean much of anything regarding reality.

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29613  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meet Karl Lentz on: June 27, 2016, 09:03:44 PM
Karl Lentz 236 - IRS is garnishing your wages through your employer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkNNtfF8sw
29614  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 27, 2016, 08:59:44 PM
Interesting how the cash of the poor always ends up in the coffers of the religion keepers - the sophisticated wealthy ones who 'act' as gods themselves with their insatiable lust for more and more, while preying on the emotions of the 'lost' poor and draining them till all is gone and they die.

Thank GOD crypto is open to all, neutral and unbiased.

In America, among Christian religions, money is not generally taken from the poor by force. Rather, the poor donate it to God, to continue the work of spreading God's word. This doesn't mean that the money is always used in a right way. But the point is that God's Word is spread, and along with it, salvation. God rewards the poor who give, in all kinds of ways for their generosity and love. And, they will end up with eternal life, which is way more important.

Those who spread Gods Word directly - the religious leaders - are doing a great and wonderful work. They deserve to get paid just like anyone else who works. And since this work is saving souls for eternal life, it is the best work there is, and should be rewarded accordingly. It's too bad that some religious leaders are drawn away towards the things of wealth and this life, and start to use the wealth improperly. If they don't change, they will be punished for this, by God.

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What are you talking about?  They operate as tax free scams.  They use the same techniques as a Nigerian boiler room scam artist would use.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367070.0

Have you been living under the rock?  Or you are in denial of everything that shows how ridiculous your religion is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek




Tax free scams!!!  Aren't you even starting to realize that taxation is the scam?  Haven't you been looking at Meet Karl Lentz at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1512214.0 ?

Government is the religion that is trying to shut down the competition. Or are you part of them?

Wake up.

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29615  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 27, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
Interesting how the cash of the poor always ends up in the coffers of the religion keepers - the sophisticated wealthy ones who 'act' as gods themselves with their insatiable lust for more and more, while preying on the emotions of the 'lost' poor and draining them till all is gone and they die.

Thank GOD crypto is open to all, neutral and unbiased.

In America, among Christian religions, money is not generally taken from the poor by force. Rather, the poor donate it to God, to continue the work of spreading God's word. This doesn't mean that the money is always used in a right way. But the point is that God's Word is spread, and along with it, salvation. God rewards the poor who give, in all kinds of ways for their generosity and love. And, they will end up with eternal life, which is way more important.

Those who spread Gods Word directly - the religious leaders - are doing a great and wonderful work. They deserve to get paid just like anyone else who works. And since this work is saving souls for eternal life, it is the best work there is, and should be rewarded accordingly. It's too bad that some religious leaders are drawn away towards the things of wealth and this life, and start to use the wealth improperly. If they don't change, they will be punished for this, by God.

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29616  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 27, 2016, 12:23:54 AM
~DERP



 Huh

No, deep. Examine things in detail before using derp on them.

For example. Science recognizes the existence of countless trillions upon trillions of cause and effect actions in the universe. Yet they have not found even one reaction that is provably randomly caused. Because of intelligence of mankind being in the universe, it was caused. And only something with more intelligence could cause it without any random existing.

This is why the scientists are looking to replace fact with theory. They don't want the founding Intelligence to be the Source of everything. But they can't change the facts.

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29617  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: June 27, 2016, 12:16:38 AM
eminent researchers

That is just an argument of authority.
What about your claim to scientific consensus as an argument from authority; is yours not the same kind of argument? At least with the non-physical theory there is the advantage of proofs converging from many and varying classes of phenomena unite in establishing it

Relax. Trading doesn't believe science, which shows the factual existence of God through cause and effect. Nothing has ever been found that defies cause and effect with certainty. Yet there are millions of cause and effect actions and reactions going on all the time, and all of science knows it.

Because of this, Trading is depending on some fake and lying authority in the things he believes.

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29618  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 27, 2016, 12:08:00 AM
    Enjoy your luck to be alive like if you had a chance on a trillion of quadrillions to be born, since those were more or less your odds.
There is no such thing as luck and odds. Everything was caused by something else according to the mandates of whatever caused it to be the way that it is.

Every particle and wave of energy in the universe acts as a reaction from something else acting on it. And the something-else acted as it did because of yet some other thing acting on it, etc., all the way back to the Beginning.

Everything operates by cause and effect. There is no random, odds, or luck.



   Make the most of life like if it was a single drop of water tumbling on your lips on an infinite desert.
And the best way to do this is to seek the Creator Who set all the cause and effect actions in motion. When you seek Him, He will reward you for looking for the truth of Him. He will let you find Him when you seek Him with all your heart.



   Value every day of it as if you were on a death row waiting for your turn, because you are; you just have a wonderful cell.
And do it by seeking the Creator... the One who made everything and upholds it through cause and effect.

Life is scientifically impossible, except that it is here. Even so, the resurrection from death will be made possible by the Creator, the One who made this impossible-to-exist life in the first place.



   You think your real life is going to start with your death? Really?

   From death, better expect nothing more than nothing, eternal.

   Repent, believers, turn atheists, before is too late!



Repent, you atheism believers, and look at the fact that science proves God exists. Call to God, and He will answer you. Join with the Christian believers to be raised by God to life everlasting. Do it now, because if you die, you will not be able to change yourself to faith in God afterward, and eternal life will be lost to you.

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29619  Other / Off-topic / Nascar: Theft, ransom ... bitcoins? The story behind CSLFR's new sponsor on: June 26, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Theft, ransom ... bitcoins? The story behind CSLFR's new sponsor





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Before this year's Sprint Cup Series race at Texas Motor Speedway in April, crew chief Dave Winston wasn't familiar with Malwarebytes. But after a virus infected his company computer, encrypting crucial files and leaving him and his team feeling helpless, he learned not only about computer security, but about an entire underground network of cyber thieves, ransomware and the digital currency known as bitcoin.

The story sounds more similar to a script for a spy thriller than a real-world occurrence, full of intrigue and secrecy, including a theft and a ransom note, the result of a virus attack that left no trail and few clues.

But this was no Hollywood movie. The attack and the ransom note were real.

...


Read more at http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2016/6/24/circle-sport-leavine-family-racing-bitcoin-malware-new-sponsor.html.


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29620  Other / Politics & Society / Local Sheriff Blocks Feds From Raiding Peaceful Farmer on: June 26, 2016, 10:05:24 PM
Local Sheriff Blocks Feds From Raiding Peaceful Farmer





Sheriff Rogers followed up on a complaint from a local farmer, David Hochstetler and discovered that he would use his position to side with them because he saw that there was no justified cause for the obtrusive inspections that have going on since 2011 around twice a month.
They were searching for a reason to shut down Forest Grove Dairy Farm, so Rogers stepped in and blocked it. Then he started speaking out about it.

The big agriculture backed FDA along with the Department of Justice (DOJ) started the harassment approximately four years ago just because the hard-working farmer was producing raw milk and supplying some of the organic food co-ops. Thankfully, the government's steady war on small farmers was halted in this particular case.  Sheriff Rogers, authored a 600-word break down of the ordeal for the local newspaper in his contribution column called "Ask The Sheriff".

"Specifically, the FDA was inspecting his farm without a warrant as much as every two weeks. Typical inspections occur annually. The Department of Justice (DOJ) had subpoenaed him for a grand jury in Michigan in which he was to bring his production documents. The Feds wanted to make this farmer an example."


Read more at http://wearechange.org/local-sheriff-blocks-feds-raiding-family-farmer/.


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