How about a referendum to completely dismantle government?  |
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9/11 is a mystery and mysteries are difficult to be solve. i think no body know about the fact of 9/11. either it was an incident or a pre planed. i think it i will take a lot of more time to be solved. so i will remain a mistrust for next some years. i think we should not put velours in past and specially in such bad experience of the past. i think we should believe that we have to start a peaceful life and not to think about the past.
Nobody knows "all" the facts about 9/11. Many people know many facts about it. 9/11 was no accident. It was pre-planned. And if the planes weren't holograms, it was even "planed." The question about 9/11 is, who actually planned it and carried it out? Another question is, how and when did they get the explosives into the buildings and planted so strategically? Another is, how many different "birds" were killed with this one 9/11 "stone?" There are many other questions, as well. And we will never know all the answers. |
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Killing is prohibited by any religion so i think the real problem is the nature of humans and perhaps is more peaceful world if there were no religion.
If there were no religion, there would be no people as people. That might be a good topic - a different kind of "people." But people as they are, are religious creatures. There is always going to be religion... in the case of atheists and others, even religion of non-religion. |
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Religion is useful. It kills enormous numbers of healthy people. Without religion the world would be even more over-populated.  Actually, it's the opposite. People talk religion, act religion in times of peace, and then forget religious principles when a bunch of sneaky irreligious leaders talk them into war. This excludes Muslims, of course, whose religion is formally at war with everybody, even themselves. |
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^ why not? That is not a bad poll result for someone not well known. Although some maybe chose him as protest against the other choices more than anything.
I agree. The military has to obey the President. |
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Since, this time, the post at least had some sense and can suggest my post wasn't accurate, I'll add this: The term Assembly of God (Congregation of God on the King James translation) doesn't mean nation or people of Israel. When the Torah wants to designate the people of Israel calls it Assembly of Israel (for instance, Joshua 8:35; 1 Kings 8:14; Deuteronomy 31:30), not Assembly of God. The Torah uses the term Assembly of God with the meaning of saved ones: "You have come to the assembly of God's firstborn children, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God himself, who is the judge over all things. You have come to the spirits of the righteous ones in heaven who have now been made perfect" (Hebrews 12:23; New Living Translation); or "To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect" (Hebrews 12:23; King James). Moreover, Deuteronomy 23:3, says that the "An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD", because "they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee" (Deuteronomy 23:4). But "the LORD thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee, because the LORD thy God loved thee" (Deuteronomy 23:5). So, god blesses and loves the Israelites, but not the Ammonite or Moabite. They can never enter the Assembly of God. They will go to hell. The same is said explicitly on Ezekiel 25:2 "Son of man, set your face against the Ammonites and prophesy against them." and Ezekiel 25:7 "therefore I will stretch out my hand against you and give you as plunder to the nations. I will wipe you out from among the nations and exterminate you from the countries. I will destroy you, and you will know that I am the LORD.'" Therefore, god will destroy the Ammonite (and Moabite). They won't be saved and will go to hell. Since this was the meaning about these fellows, of course, the same applied to bastards/people born from a forbidden marriage up to the tenth generation. This interpretation is confirmed by the practice of excommunicating Jews that refused to divorce their foreign wifes (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marriage_in_Judaism#In_the_Bible). The same can be concluded from Nehemiah 10: 29 and 30 ("bind themselves with a curse" to "not to give our daughters in marriage to the peoples around us or take their daughters for our sons") or from Malachi 2:11. Of course, the rule of the ten generations wasn't applied. They would have to be crazy to apply it. But that was the good book rule. No doubt, currently, this interpretation isn't consensual. Some call the Assembly of God a kind of political or religious body and not the saved chosen ones, in order to try to avoid the natural (terrible) and traditional sense of this rule. But those are modern reinterpretations of terrible rules. In any case, it's consensual that Assembly of God doesn't mean the Israelites. But I'm going to be more polite and assume that the post was determined by ignorance, not dishonesty. On the enlargement by Jesus of salvation to all believers, Jews laugh out and say all Christians will burn on hell for believing on a false prophet. And, nevertheless, the Old Testament is part of the bible, accepted by Christians, so they have to acknowledge these terrible statements that were adopted and even partly applied during centuries before Jesus in the name of the same god. So, what is an Ammorite or Moabite? If you leave the nation, drop the practices, set your mind to seek God, take up the practices of Israel, and totally forsake anything Ammorite or Moabite, you are not an Ammonite or Moabite. Consider the book of Ruth. Ruth was a Moabitess, yet King David was her great-grandson. If you think she wasn't saved, you are totally missing the thing that brings about salvation... faith. God is seeking those who worship Him in spirit and truth. Salvation doesn't depend on genetics. Saint Paul says there will come a time when all Israel will come in, meaning, that Israel has turned away from God in their rejection of their Messiah, who is Jesus. The O.T. exists. Are Christians supposed to deny that fact? The story of how God prepared Israel as a nation for the coming of Jesus, the Messiah, is there for all to accept. The moral law is for all to accept because all people are still people. The directives for Israel found in the O.T. ceremonial and governmental laws are for Israel and for those who want to do them. Christians are not required to do O.T. ceremonial and governmental laws. |
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Why paying cash for hospital bills
is five times cheaper than
your government mandated Obamacare You might want to consider just ditching the failed health insurance "tax" altogether and paying cash for medical services on an as-needed basis because, truth be told, you'll end up shelling out far less money in the long run.
This was the recent experience of a California woman named Caroline who, after receiving a hefty bill for a few simple blood tests, petitioned the hospital where the blood was drawn for answers. What she came to learn is that there's essentially two pricing tiers for medical services: the insurance rate and the cash rate.
Accustomed to just having her medical treatments billed to her insurance carrier, Blue Shield of California, Caroline was shocked to learn that the $269.42 she was responsible for paying out of pocket for the five blood tests she received -- this out of $408 total, the rest of which was covered by her insurance -- was nearly four times higher than the total cost would have been if she had just paid in cash, insurance aside. Read more at http://www.naturalnews.com/054452_hospital_bills_health_insurance_cash_prices.html
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So what's the story with the old and new testement then? If your following the new one then aren't you following the wrong one since its been edited loads of times by random people who have decided what they want to change? Surely the original is the most historically accurate?
The Bible is God's Word to mankind telling about salvation. God has seen to it that His Word is accurate. If you can find some of the originals, we would be interested. The best we might have is a few scraps from some of the originals of the New Testament. But we are not sure, and probably we don't. I see. I thought they found the whole old testament intact in some cave and then at a later date just decided to edit it to not sound so bad and so wrote the new testament. But your Saying theres only a few pages and so most must be made up? I will need to Google this. Nope. That's not what I am saying. And that isn't the way it is. In fact, it is just the opposite. The Hebrew nation, the Hebrews/Israelites/Jews are some of the most stubborn people around. The scribes among them copied the O.T. extremely accurately from generation to generation, partially because of their stubbornness. The cave findings from more than 2,000 years ago show that they were extremely accurate scribes over the last 2,000 years. There is no reason to believe that they were less accurate scribes before that. Since the majority of Christians in the first hundred years after the N.T. was written, were Jews, the same accuracy applies to the N.T., since they were the ones who got it going, and who kept it accurate, even though they lost their status as a nation. Of course, after the printing press, it was reasonably easy to keep it accurate. |
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The U.S. is too big population-wise for direct democracy. Rather, dismantle the federal Government, and let the States have direct democracy individually. And if a State becomes too large, let it be done county by county. |
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Core Science = normal people with fully functioning brains
You gotta be kidding. Many of these people think that science theory is fact. Oh, that's right. You are one of them. |
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It's not a question of hate. Just dislike. Reasons to dislike religion? That's a hard one... having to choose... Let me check again the good book... I guess I could just open it on any blind page and I would find a reason. But let's pick a good one: "No one born of a forbidden marriage nor any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation." or "If a person is illegitimate by birth, neither he nor his descendants for ten generations may be admitted to the assembly of the LORD" Deuteronomy 23:2 (check different translations here: http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/23-2.htm) Yes, you read it well. If up to about the year 1700, one of your ascendants was born out of marriage or from a forbidden marriage, you are going straight to hell, no matter what all of them did after or you did in your entire life. Well, up to the tenth generation, you have 1024 ascendants. If only one of them was a bastard, you are nailed. Moreover, since the text isn't clear ("not even in the tenth generation"), you might not be off the hook even if you have ten clean generations. No where the text says that at the eleven generation everything will be alright again. Good luck. Thats me totally screwed then, oh well i might as well go out and do some raping and pillaging since I'm going to hell anyways. I don't know why they even changed from the old testament, thats what originally written so surely that's what we should follow. I mean its outrageous that I'm not even allowed to beat my slaves anymore. In God's sight, even one sin is enough for damnation. And we all have sinned many times. This means that you have a chance to get to Heaven through Jesus salvation, just like all the other people who believe. Turn to God for salvation through Jesus, now, while you have the chance... and avoid the damnation. So what's the story with the old and new testement then? If your following the new one then aren't you following the wrong one since its been edited loads of times by random people who have decided what they want to change? Surely the original is the most historically accurate? The Bible is God's Word to mankind telling about salvation. God has seen to it that His Word is accurate. If you can find some of the originals, we would be interested. The best we might have is a few scraps from some of the originals of the New Testament. But we are not sure, and probably we don't. |
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It's not a question of hate. Just dislike. Reasons to dislike religion? That's a hard one... having to choose... Let me check again the good book... I guess I could just open it on any blind page and I would find a reason. But let's pick a good one: "No one born of a forbidden marriage nor any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation." or "If a person is illegitimate by birth, neither he nor his descendants for ten generations may be admitted to the assembly of the LORD" Deuteronomy 23:2 (check different translations here: http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/23-2.htm) Yes, you read it well. If up to about the year 1700, one of your ascendants was born out of marriage or from a forbidden marriage, you are going straight to hell, no matter what all of them did after or you did in your entire life. Well, up to the tenth generation, you have 1024 ascendants. If only one of them was a bastard, you are nailed. Moreover, since the text isn't clear ("not even in the tenth generation"), you might not be off the hook even if you have ten clean generations. No where the text says that at the eleven generation everything will be alright again. Good luck. Thats me totally screwed then, oh well i might as well go out and do some raping and pillaging since I'm going to hell anyways. I don't know why they even changed from the old testament, thats what originally written so surely that's what we should follow. I mean its outrageous that I'm not even allowed to beat my slaves anymore. In God's sight, even one sin is enough for damnation. And we all have sinned many times. This means that you have a chance to get to Heaven through Jesus salvation, just like all the other people who believe. Turn to God for salvation through Jesus, now, while you have the chance... and avoid the damnation. |
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My answers in this thread are rational; no need to insinuate that they are "out of this world"; I am certainly here to help you engage with the facts of the brain research that I present to you; in fact, many eminent researchers do not believe in evolution and reject physicalism, a very good reason to inquire about theories that are non-physical. In this thread, atheists provide only their opinions with no evidence to support them! When questioned on the details, atheists fail to respond coherently on the subject of NDEs. Take an entry level, undergrad human physiology course. That should be enough for you to understand how our nervous system works. The rhetorical opinions of your NDE theories are presented as if they were scientific. The opinion of a select few BITCOINERS, who are not experts on the subject, can hardly be called scientific evidence. Some atheists and pseudoskeptics will say that science has removed the need for God as an explanation for the existence of the natural world. The quotes here demonstrate that many of the greatest scientific minds believe just the opposite, that the scientific evidence is best explained by the existence of an intelligent designer of the universe. Even Darwin saw the absurdity of attributing to material nature that which is obviously the result of DESIGNED LAWS. Read More: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1475732.msg15337196#msg15337196A good bunch of the people that support evolution in this forum are simply trolls, often paid for by the so-called science elite. They don't want the stupidity of certain important aspects of science to become known any more than necessary. It's all about their salary, and maybe even controlling the world through false "knowledge." |
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It's not a question of hate. Just dislike. Reasons to dislike religion? That's a hard one... having to choose... Let me check again the good book... I guess I could just open it on any blind page and I would find a reason. But let's pick a good one: "No one born of a forbidden marriage nor any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation." or "If a person is illegitimate by birth, neither he nor his descendants for ten generations may be admitted to the assembly of the LORD" Deuteronomy 23:2 (check different translations here: http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/23-2.htm) Yes, you read it well. If up to about the year 1700, one of your ascendants was born out of marriage or from a forbidden marriage, you are going straight to hell, no matter what all of them did after or you did in your entire life. Well, up to the tenth generation, you have 1024 ascendants. If only one of them was a bastard, you are nailed. Moreover, since the text isn't clear ("not even in the tenth generation"), you might not be off the hook even if you have ten clean generations. No where the text says that at the eleven generation everything will be alright again. Good luck. The passage you quoted was for the religion/government of ancient Israel. It doesn't have anything to do with salvation, but only with being part of the nation (assembly). Since Jesus came and did His work of salvation, and since the passage you quoted was part of the ceremonial and governmental regs, it isn't really even for the Israel people of today, to say nothing of not being for anyone else. However, if you keep on being dishonest about it, none of this will matter to you. Why not? The whole Bible and Israel thing is about salvation for eternal life. And you simply won't make it. |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
The bible also orders Christians to murder Muslims... what is your point? If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.
This order is for the Jews, and particularly for the Jews of Old Testament times. Your god sounds more flippity floppity on issues than Donald Trump... What kind of a god likes slavery, genocide, murdering Muslims, etc.... then a few years later changes his mind? That is not a book written by a god... sorry... gods do not change their mind... they are eternal The answer is, a God who wants salvation for people, people who can only be saved by believing in God. Get rid of the unbelievers. There were two ways for the Jews of the O.T. times. However, there is only one way for Christians of today. Convert them. God will take care of the rest of it, personally. |
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Neal Adam's timing is off due to his following of the stupid timeline of modern science. Remember that he earth was split in the days of Peleg? There were no separate continents before that time. Look into it. The earth is a little over 6,000 years old. All the science that suggests any times beyond about 4,500 years by science, is completely guesswork, designed to do two things: 1. Bring stability to the world of science; 2. Eliminate God out of as much thinking as possible. When you look into the papers, you see that the scientific ideas of the age of the earth is all guesswork. The papers say so. |
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Neal Adam's timing is off due to his following of the stupid timeline of modern science. Remember that he earth was split in the days of Peleg? There were no separate continents before that time. |
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