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2981  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 04:47:29 AM
For the NFL spread bets:

Nitrogen -105/-105 and this includes totals.
DirectBet -116/-116 . Not only this, but it breaks immediately. It's impossible to beat this line long term.


DirectBet has the worst NFL lines of all bitcoin and fiat books and by a good margin pre-game. If things continue as is, you'll get shut out of a lot of NFL live bets. It's much better to deposit if you plan on betting the NFL live since the confirmations are quicker.

DirectBet
Quote
Miami +2.5pts @ +110
Atlanta -2.5pts @ -147.1
Under/Over 37.5pts
Under 37.5pts @ -125.0
Over 37.5pts @ -115.0

2982  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 08, 2014, 02:11:08 AM
Webetcoins accepts dogecoin but the site has a lot of down time and is currently under DDoS attack. There have been reports of payouts taking 24 hours although no one has been stiffed. I hope the best for this site since the owner seems like a good, honest guy.

Thanks - it certainly is a shame with regards to DirectBet, and I'd like to apologize to you for attacking you in their thread a month or so ago... at the time I felt DirectBet where offering a great service, but as of now with the things that have happened lately there... I'm not so sure.

Cheers again

Grumpster- It's no problem at all. I act very unprofessional in his thread. If you have any positive or negative experiences with other books, please post them.
2983  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 08, 2014, 02:06:48 AM
Hi all,

I have been using DirectBet for a while but unfortunately as of late they've not been meeting the standards I'd expect of a book.

Only thing is, they're the only sportsbook I know to take dogecoin bets - I have looked around a few of the others (not all), just wondering if anyone knows any other legit books accepting dogecoin bets?!

Thanks!

Webetcoins accepts dogecoin but the site has a lot of down time and is currently under DDoS attack. There have been reports of payouts taking 24 hours or more although no one has been stiffed. I hope the best for this site since the owner seems like a good, honest guy.
2984  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 08, 2014, 01:54:00 AM
Nitrogen seems to have the best lines for preseason NFL

SD/Dallas 3.5 -116/+104
They also have drop down alt lines.
2985  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 12:26:37 AM
Today's lines out of DirectBet

Hou total over -500/+180 under edit, just went to -1428/+580
Pitt/Mia -10000/+300
Bal -303/+128, another BTC book -159/+135
Doubles tennis Hin/p -1428/+360
Lopez -476/+215
Cle under -625/+210
Cle -400/+128 Bos
Cle u just moved -769/+235
Using different totals but DirectBet Bal/Tor total -454/+176 at another book -130/+110
NFL Bal -1111/+410 SF
There's not a line up for 2nd half SF/Bal.

Preseason before the game starts
SD/Dallas 2.5: -161/+114 DirectBet
SD/Dallas 3.5 -116/+104 Nitrogern

How do expect to compete with "A" and "B" rated books with your lines?

2986  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 11:56:21 PM
DirectBet- Who the hell are you to dictate terms? Do you think that you are a threat to any of the big books? You're a two man shop with the worst live lines in the business. DirectBet has a little niche that most likely will be swallowed up by someone bigger.

Your character assassination attempts mean nothing to me. I listen to other posters, but do you think that anything you post bothers me at all? The ratings are just a loose guide. Every player is looking for something different.
2987  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 11:33:40 PM
Peeps Place :

If some of the books that you rate pay you to advertise on your website while others do not pay, then you should put the following disclaimer next to the ratings, otherwise your activity is fraudulent and your "ratings guide" is a disguised paid advertisement :

Disclaimer :

"The top 3 rated books in this ratings guide are paying to advertise on www.PeepsPlace.com. All other rated books are not paying for banners on www.PeepsPlace.com"

The purpose of the poll is to alert unsuspected members of the possibility that your ratings may be biased. We prefer that you will put a disclaimer instead and let the users decide for themselves whether or not your ratings are biased.

As you can tell by the poll result, 75% of the people here agree with us. Spamming our thread serves no good to your creditability. You should listen to the public opinion.

The Bitcoin sports betting industry is full of scammers. People here are getting scammed on a daily basis, and indirectly that affects all legitimate books.

Put a disclaimer and we will leave you alone. Otherwise, it is our responsibility to alert the community of a possible scam.
Keep your poll up. I don't care. I've been around the forums since 2003 and owned a couple of sites. Reagan's been around since 2003.

You have no experience, no idea what you are talking about when it comes to gambling or book making. Posters can decide on the validity of the ratings. If they knew Reagan, they wouldn't question them.

High rated books haven't gone under, but the low rated books have gone under and warnings were given.
2988  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 10:43:28 PM
DirectBet- NFL season is getting ready to heat up. Lots of players start depositing at this time. I hope that we can reconcile before this time.
2989  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 10:00:57 PM
How come I can't parlay a team and total from the same NFL game?  Huh
Many books disallow it since it's a correlated parlay. It's better in the NCAA since a line may be -36 with a total of 48. If there's a blowout cover, it most likely goes over.

Some books use a 25% rule, others 30% rule. If the spread is less than 25/30% of the total, they will allow it.
2990  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 09:20:32 PM
Peeps Place :

We are willing to remove the poll on this thread if you add the following disclaimer to your "ratings guide" :

Disclaimer :

"The top 3 rated books in this ratings guide are paying to advertise on www.PeepsPlace.com. All other rated books are not paying for banners on www.PeepsPlace.com"

These are pure facts.

Do you agree ?
You do not know anything about our business relationships. We ask top books to advertise at peepsplace.com. Bitcointalk is irrelevant in recruiting fiat players which is the goal. I post here because I like it here and try to add to this community.

If you take the poll down, then I don't have the right to discredit you in your thread. If you leave it up, then it is my right. It's your choice and no deal will be made..
2991  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 09:16:02 PM
DirectBet likes to compare to Anonibet. Right now live in the Atromitos AthensFK Sarajevo, DirectBet only has the outright winner up. Anonibet has lots of options including alternate totals. Plus Anonibet gives up to 10% back on losses.

Quote
occer » International Clubs » UEFA Europa League, Qualification
Atromitos Athens1:2FK Sarajevo
1st overtime period 105'
Atromitos AthensFK Sarajevo
1
2
0

2
2
0
90' - goal team ( )
85' - goal home team ( )
81' - yellow card - away team ( )
8' - yellow card - home team ( )
79' - goal away team ( )
73' - yellow card - home team ( )
55' - yellow card - away team ( )
45' - goal team ( )
23' - goal away team ( )
Atromitos Athens - FK Sarajevo
3-way (OT only!)
Atromitos Athens+265Draw-222FK Sarajevo+675
Total (OT only!) (1.5)
Under 1.5Over 1.5+575
Total (OT only!) (0.5)
Under 0.5-200Over 0.5+130
Who wins the rest of the match (OT only!)? (1:2)
Next Goal (OT only!) (1:2)
Asian handicap Overtime (-0.25)

Peep's how much are you getting paid from anonibet?  I'm totally unbiased, I've used both books and both are fine, but why do you keep saying how good anonibet is?  compared to the tens of others available?  

Also, how is Directbet trying to extort you?  (from your PM to me)

Anonibet's rating was up well in advance of approaching them for advertising. Ratings go up and then the good books are asked to advertise. Pay for rating does not exist and books are told that. They pay to convert fiat books to their book.

A book will not survive with only bitcointalk players. New books keep opening taking bitcointalk players from existing books. I post here because I like this forum and community.

I understand your business model now, but it is still biased of you.  I mean, Anonibet is paying you, you wouldn't lower their rating now would you?  Do you have any examples of a paying book where you lowered their ranking or said anything remotely negative about them?  I'm just saying if you want to be THE review site, you can't accept money from ANY of them.  Just my thoughts on like if you want to be THE review site.
I completely understand your thoughts and I would think the same.
2992  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 08:23:53 PM
DirectBet likes to compare to Anonibet. Right now live in the Atromitos AthensFK Sarajevo, DirectBet only has the outright winner up. Anonibet has lots of options including alternate totals. Plus Anonibet gives up to 10% back on losses.

Quote
occer » International Clubs » UEFA Europa League, Qualification
Atromitos Athens1:2FK Sarajevo
1st overtime period 105'
Atromitos AthensFK Sarajevo
1
2
0

2
2
0
90' - goal team ( )
85' - goal home team ( )
81' - yellow card - away team ( )
8' - yellow card - home team ( )
79' - goal away team ( )
73' - yellow card - home team ( )
55' - yellow card - away team ( )
45' - goal team ( )
23' - goal away team ( )
Atromitos Athens - FK Sarajevo
3-way (OT only!)
Atromitos Athens+265Draw-222FK Sarajevo+675
Total (OT only!) (1.5)
Under 1.5Over 1.5+575
Total (OT only!) (0.5)
Under 0.5-200Over 0.5+130
Who wins the rest of the match (OT only!)? (1:2)
Next Goal (OT only!) (1:2)
Asian handicap Overtime (-0.25)

Peep's how much are you getting paid from anonibet?  I'm totally unbiased, I've used both books and both are fine, but why do you keep saying how good anonibet is?  compared to the tens of others available?  

Also, how is Directbet trying to extort you?  (from your PM to me)

Anonibet's rating was up well in advance of approaching them for advertising. Ratings go up and then the good books are asked to advertise. Pay for rating does not exist and books are told that. They pay to convert fiat books to their book.

A book will not survive with only bitcointalk players. New books keep opening taking bitcointalk players from existing books. I post here because I like this forum and community.
2993  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 08:21:07 PM
If DirectBet wants to keep up his misleading poll, then it's only fair to keep showing DirectBet's weaknesses on how other books obtained their rating.
2994  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 08:13:55 PM
DirectBet likes to compare to Anonibet. Right now live in the Atromitos AthensFK Sarajevo, DirectBet only has the outright winner up. Anonibet has lots of options including alternate totals. Plus Anonibet gives up to 10% back on losses.

Quote
occer » International Clubs » UEFA Europa League, Qualification
Atromitos Athens1:2FK Sarajevo
1st overtime period 105'
Atromitos AthensFK Sarajevo
1
2
0

2
2
0
90' - goal team ( )
85' - goal home team ( )
81' - yellow card - away team ( )
8' - yellow card - home team ( )
79' - goal away team ( )
73' - yellow card - home team ( )
55' - yellow card - away team ( )
45' - goal team ( )
23' - goal away team ( )
Atromitos Athens - FK Sarajevo
3-way (OT only!)
Atromitos Athens+265Draw-222FK Sarajevo+675
Total (OT only!) (1.5)
Under 1.5Over 1.5+575
Total (OT only!) (0.5)
Under 0.5-200Over 0.5+130
Who wins the rest of the match (OT only!)? (1:2)
Next Goal (OT only!) (1:2)
Asian handicap Overtime (-0.25)
2995  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 06:32:24 PM
One thing I just saw at the other book is that you can even bet on the team to win the rest of the game. It's in the 6th inning. You can make a bet on just innings 7-9.
2996  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 07, 2014, 06:24:30 PM
DirectBet stated that they are the only bitcoin book with live baseball. Just to show this isn't true another book has a huge selection in game.

DirectBet
Quote
Moneyline (Listed)
NY Mets @ +470
Washington @ -666.7
U/O 6.5 Runs (Listed)
Under 6.5 Runs @ Negotiate
Over 6.5 Runs @ -122.0

BetVIP. Betting opens every 1/2 inning and confirmations are fast.
Quote

VSNEW YORK METS
 
Who scores 5th point?
WASHINGTON NATIONALS 1.85No Point 4.80NEW YORK METS 2.55
Who scores 6th point?
WASHINGTON NATIONALS 2.65No Point 2.25NEW YORK METS 3.15
Will there be an 18th half-inning?
Yes 3.90No 1.14
Will there be overtime?
BETTING SUSPENDED
Yes 6.00No 1.03
Which team gets highest score for period
WASHINGTON NATIONALS 1.20Draw 5.75NEW YORK METS 7.75
Who wins the period? [Period:] 7
WASHINGTON NATIONALS 3.65Draw 1.55NEW YORK METS 4.50
Who wins the rest of the match, including overtime? 3:1
WASHINGTON NATIONALS 2.25Draw 3.15NEW YORK METS 2.65
Odd/Even for whole match including overtime
BETTING SUSPENDED
Odd 1.75Even 2.05
Total for whole match, including overtime 5.5
Under 5.5 2.35Over 5.5 1.55
Total for whole match, including overtime 6.5
Under 6.5 1.80Over 6.5 2.00
Total for whole match, including overtime 7.5
Under 7.5 1.35Over 7.5 3.10
WASHINGTON NATIONALS 1.16NEW YORK METS 3.60
WASHINGTON NATIONALS 1.14NEW YORK METS 3.85
Maximum period total score
2 1.253 5.754 11.255+ 11.75
Total for seventh period 0.5
Under 1.70Over 2.10
Total for seventh period 1.5
Under 1.22Over 4.20
Total for sixth period 0.5
Under 1.22Over 4.00
Which team will win the match, including overtime?
WASHINGTON NATIONALS 1.06NEW YORK METS 5.00
Winning margins, including overtime
>=+3 2.25+2 3.20+1 3.90-1 15.00-2 32.00<=-3 32.0
2997  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 07, 2014, 06:14:44 PM
Has anyone played with the NR books? It's time for some initial ratings.

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake

Wait, really, bitbook is back?  Same book or someone just stole the name?

 my mistake. I just put them in the "F" category. They did give 10 days for players to be paid but there were some players that missed seeing the post and weren't paid.


"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook


NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake

* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
2998  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 07, 2014, 06:05:16 PM
Quote
Quote
We have *never* requested any information such as address/residence details for deposits or withdrawals and there are zero plans to introduce this at any point in the future,

Kind regards,
Jessica
BetVIP.com Support
2999  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 07, 2014, 04:20:20 PM
The way that I read it is that BetVIP is making sure to cover themselves legally but will pay everyone without the red tape. If anyone is playing there, please post your experiences.
3000  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 07, 2014, 01:31:20 PM
I just sent BetVIP an email and it bounced back
Quote
This message has been rejected due to content judged to be spam by the internet community

They don't have a phone number.
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