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2981  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 09, 2014, 04:51:04 AM
Here is one day of spam from DirectBet. There are too many characters so I had to split it up to 3 posts. It's one day out of DirectBet


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Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.
July 30, 2014, 06:22:24 PM
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Quote from: Legend_ on July 17, 2014, 11:49:02 AM
Quote from: Peeps Place on July 17, 2014, 06:19:19 AM
There have been rumors of cheating by Anonibet in their contest so I read the whole thread and did some research. joeland won 10 BTC by winning the contest. He joined bitcointalk on 4/26 and then made his first post on 6/8. The post was in regards to Webetcoins. On 6/27 joelad made posts concerning the contest with Anonibet. If there was cheating going on then why would the winner of the contest be legit?

i think contest winners are anonibet employees... but i could only prove one... read my story... anonibet over reaction and silence made it clear... they tried to get rid of evidence...

Quote from: Legend_ on July 16, 2014, 04:33:25 PM

Anonibet cheated me in their world cup contest!!!

They participated in their own contest to keep the money for themselves!!!



AAAAARARRRRRRGGGGG!!! I feel soooo dumb... should have known better!

opened a new account to participate in their contest. NO WAAY I play there other wise... their odds are very bad but I figured with the extra $$$ from the contest it could worth it... placed many bets for a few days and earned 65 points... at that time first place had only 9 points...

As soon as I posted my bets here something very weird happened... all of a sudden two completely newbies who just opened their bitcoin talk accounts came in and posted tons of BIG bets, just enough to beat me.

I suspected it was Anonibet participating in their own contest but had no way to prove figured I have no chance beating them so I stopped... cost me 0.55 BTC trying!!!

...then I came across the profile of one of the winners...












UPDATE :  immediately after my post anonitips facebook page was deleted, then when I showed a cached version on google they put the facebook page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

luckily, google has the original facebook page cached with anonibet.com address in the contact info :

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

anonibet claims the winner is just a regular customer and did not want to explain how come he has a facebook page since 2011 with their address in the contact info.

what do you think?



Quote from: bauta11 on July 18, 2014, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: Peeps Place on July 17, 2014, 06:39:20 AM
A player was overpaid 15 BTC. Anonibet took full blame for the mistake. They even went so far as to say that the player wasn't a cheat. I don't remember the exact wording but it had the same meaning. The player did pay back anonibet. Anonibet had an outage. Every player that emailed anonibet received .1 BTC for the down time. Anonibet opened in 2011 and has a maximum withdrawal of 500 BTC.

Last time I checked the maximum withdrawal limit on Anonibet was 500 mBTC, 0.5 BTC that is.

I'd also like to add that the recent allegations does not look good, at all. Until I see some acceptable explanations I'll move my betting business elsewhere.

Quote from: Gogo ppp on July 18, 2014, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: bauta11 on July 18, 2014, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: Peeps Place on July 17, 2014, 06:39:20 AM
A player was overpaid 15 BTC. Anonibet took full blame for the mistake. They even went so far as to say that the player wasn't a cheat. I don't remember the exact wording but it had the same meaning. The player did pay back anonibet. Anonibet had an outage. Every player that emailed anonibet received .1 BTC for the down time. Anonibet opened in 2011 and has a maximum withdrawal of 500 BTC.

Last time I checked the maximum withdrawal limit on Anonibet was 500 mBTC, 0.5 BTC that is.

I'd also like to add that the recent allegations does not look good, at all. Until I see some acceptable explanations I'll move my betting business elsewhere.


"Last time I checked the maximum withdrawal limit on Anonibet was 500 mBTC, 0.5 BTC that is."

No, the site states:

 "Are there any minimum or maximum limits for depositing and withdrawing?

Minimum deposit amount is 0.001 BTC or 1 mBTC. The maximum amount you can withdraw from your Anonibet account is 500 BTC for a 24 hour period."

https://www.anonibet.com/default.aspx



The same FAQ still states that there is a 5% charge for withdrawing without giving a one time rollover (betting all funds deposited at least once).
This is inexcusable, given that there is no cost to anonibet for either accepting a deposit or sending out a withdrawal.

"After I made a deposit, can I withdraw my funds without placing any bets?

Clients are required to wager the whole amount that was deposited, before any withdrawal request. If you want to withdraw funds without making a wager a 5% handling fee is charged."



Quote from: koshgel on July 18, 2014, 10:34:00 PM
It's always good to monitor sportsbooks and make sure they are being honest.

I just think your ranking system is deceiving. Why have anonibet above nitrogen or betcoinsports? or even directbet?

It seems like your personal experience and the way you title your thread would indicate otherwise.

Quote from: knightdk on July 19, 2014, 03:22:43 AM
Quote from: Peeps Place on July 19, 2014, 03:09:43 AM

No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

Quote from: knightdk on July 19, 2014, 03:52:43 AM
Quote from: Peeps Place on July 19, 2014, 03:49:45 AM
Quote from: knightdk on July 19, 2014, 03:22:43 AM
Quote from: Peeps Place on July 19, 2014, 03:09:43 AM

No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

Anonibet's rating is in line with other sportsbook rating sites. They were the No.2 book with Ryan's poster vote here at bitcointalk until contest allegations.






Yep they're good in bet but really terrible in contest
see my evidence here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7918311#msg7918311

Quote from: Legend_ on July 21, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...

he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...

Quote from: jjc326 on July 21, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Legend_ on July 21, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...

he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...

wait the guy's actual screename he won with is anonitips?  Wow can't get much more obvious that that! haha.  Seriously if this type of crap is true you really should be lowering the Anonibet rating...

Quote from: minternj on July 25, 2014, 01:28:33 PM
Wow not using anonibet after seeing the posts above.

Quote from: knightdk on July 26, 2014, 05:26:56 PM
Quote from: info@anonibet.com on July 26, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: Legend_ on July 26, 2014, 08:53:02 AM
can u pls ask Michael anonibet boss to come here and make official word

1. anonitips is not working for anonibet and never worked for anonibet...
2. he does not know why anonitips has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info...
3. he does not know this person anonitips and only heard about him in contest

I want official word from anonibet boss and not from his soliders.

then we can continue...

Please find my answers for the last time regarding that subject:

1. Anonitips does not work for Anonibet, he is not a former employee either.
2. We have no clue why Anonitips is promoting Anonibet on his facebook page.
3. We do not know him at all. He registered on the 5th of March to Anonibet, he is a regular customer placing lots of bets on a daily basis.

The 10 BTC winner has disclosed his wallet address on the forum, we have asked Anonitips to do the same. But so far he has not responded. If we were to make our employees winning the contest, why would we not make someone win the 10 BTC? If we were to use our employees for the contest, we would never use a nickname like Anonitips. Do you think we are so stupid?

Some Hitmen (paid by our competitors which will burst in few weeks/months) have invaded our thread especially and posted big pictures etc in order to tarnish Anonibet image. What the masters/owners of these posting members do not know, is that The forum is not a very good place to grab some of our customers. They should try to advertise like we do outside of the Bitcoin world. They will not be able to survive by chasing customers on the forum.

We know that some of our competitors are on the verge to close down. We are not happy about this, because it affects the trust in Bitcoin Bookmakers. We want them to survive. We might in the near future help some of them by buying their brands (we are not buying database) in order to prevent them to run away with customers funds.

John is not my soldier, he is our Affiliate Marketing Manager. He has our full trust and can respond to any question on the forum.

This is the last time we answer this unfounded, baseless accusations.

Regards,
Michael Hoshford


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Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.
July 30, 2014, 06:22:41 PM
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Why you aren't answer about your Facebook meme contest too?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7924843#msg7924843

Quote from: Legend_ on July 26, 2014, 10:10:40 PM
Quote from: info@anonibet.com on July 26, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
1. Anonitips does not work for Anonibet, he is not a former employee either.
2. We have no clue why Anonitips is promoting Anonibet on his facebook page.
3. We do not know him at all. He registered on the 5th of March to Anonibet, he is a regular customer placing lots of bets on a daily basis.

why someone u don't know at all will add your logo and address to his facebook page without getting any payment for several years?

I do not believe it... never heard of someone who promoted a company without getting pay or at least thanks...

and why immediately after I revelaed this scam anonitips facebook page was deleted, then when I showed a cached version on google they put the facebook page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

I am a customer. I placed 70+ bets with my own money on your site to take the lead in the contest. I got 65 points and first place at the time had only 9 points for many days... then immediately after I posted my bets and took the lead, all of a sudden two completely newbies who just opened their bitcoin talk accounts came in and posted tons of BIG bets, just enough to beat me. I suspected it was Anonibet participating in their own contest and so I stopped... luckily i later found a way to prove it...

I believe all contest winners are not real customers but I could only prove one.

anonibet also did not pay the 2btc prize for the unluckiest bet slip... they say it is because joelad the person who was supposed to win it won first place prize and can not take both prizes, but nowhere in the contest terms did it say that... so once again they changed the rules after the contest was already over to keep the money for them... they also did that in their meme contest...

... also, if joelad was a real customer I am sure he would have at least attempt to claim his prize but he didn't request it and didn't complain so I believe he is anonibet employee too... a real customer will not give up on his prize so quickly!

so what do u think? do u believe Michael has no clue who is this guy?








Quote from: StinkyS4L on July 27, 2014, 10:01:06 AM
Hey Peeps,

Any response to the allegations by DirectBet in their previous post?

I used to come by here all the time and read up on the reviews and get what I deemed to be pretty honest feedback from other BTC gamblers but this thread has unfortunately devolved into a shit flinging contest between you two.

Don't get me wrong, some of it is entertaining and I enjoy playing Sherlock, but the point of this thead now has derailed I feel. 20+ pages of crap from both parties and meanwhile the focus of what this is supposed to be has been lost.

I was one of the people ripped of by coinbet and I wished this thread to be a sort of wake-up call to others and a helpful guide to where your money could both be best spent and be the safest. So following my own criteria, here are my revised ratings:

Nitrogen - A  A great book as far as I can tell, Customer service is exceptional, almost always staff/admins in chat to help out, great promos and trivia, INSTANT WITHDRAWS.  I have had a couple of issues with betslips and some of there rules are different than other sites but I have always received a fast and courteous response from them

DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.

Anonibet - B- Good live betting options, lots of prop bet options available before games.  The odds are usually not as good as other BTC books, but to be honest they aren't that far off and unfortunately at this time none of the books can hold a candle to fiat. The main problems I have with anonibet is manual cashouts, including times when no one is there to process them and you have to wait until they open back up. Also having to look up open bets can be a pain, and if you are live betting and doing "multiple" or parlay bets they don't show up until after they are graded. You have to search for them through all of your transactions.

Casinobitco.in - B+ Extremely competitive lines. I haven't played here that much, but when I did the only thing that I didn't care for was the user interface. It could use a redesign, but other than that I had no issues with deposits/withdraws

Cloudbet - C+ Had to wait on a withdraw for about 8 hours the last time I withdrew from the site. This is unacceptable, especially for the amount I was withdrawing.

Edited to include A-F ratings not 1-5 ratings.

Quote from: iram3130 on July 27, 2014, 10:16:05 AM
Quote from: StinkyS4L on July 27, 2014, 10:01:06 AM
Hey Peeps,

Any response to the allegations by DirectBet in their previous post?

I used to come by here all the time and read up on the reviews and get what I deemed to be pretty honest feedback from other BTC gamblers but this thread has unfortunately devolved into a shit flinging contest between you two.

Don't get me wrong, some of it is entertaining and I enjoy playing Sherlock, but the point of this thead now has derailed I feel. 20+ pages of crap from both parties and meanwhile the focus of what this is supposed to be has been lost.

I was one of the people ripped of by coinbet and I wished this thread to be a sort of wake-up call to others and a helpful guide to where your money could both be best spent and be the safest. So following my own criteria, here are my revised ratings:

Nitrogen - A  A great book as far as I can tell, Customer service is exceptional, almost always staff/admins in chat to help out, great promos and trivia, INSTANT WITHDRAWS.  I have had a couple of issues with betslips and some of there rules are different than other sites but I have always received a fast and courteous response from them

DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.

Anonibet - B- Good live betting options, lots of prop bet options available before games.  The odds are usually not as good as other BTC books, but to be honest they aren't that far off and unfortunately at this time none of the books can hold a candle to fiat. The main problems I have with anonibet is manual cashouts, including times when no one is there to process them and you have to wait until they open back up. Also having to look up open bets can be a pain, and if you are live betting and doing "multiple" or parlay bets they don't show up until after they are graded. You have to search for them through all of your transactions.

Casinobitco.in - B+ Extremely competitive lines. I haven't played here that much, but when I did the only thing that I didn't care for was the user interface. It could use a redesign, but other than that I had no issues with deposits/withdraws

Cloudbet - C+ Had to wait on a withdraw for about 8 hours the last time I withdrew from the site. This is unacceptable, especially for the amount I was withdrawing.

Edited to include A-F ratings not 1-5 ratings.

I agree all with you, what you wrote and ratings too, Anonibet doesn't deserve A even before this chaos, but after this contest it must be dropped down.

And it's not good what Directbet caught you, why you are making shill account to defend Anoni or attack on Direct.

You just do your work as Book rater, for you all book must equal but you always defend Anoni even on Anoni thread you were defending there, It's not your work if they have any accusation they will defend themselves.

Quote from: Legend_ on July 27, 2014, 01:09:37 PM
Quote from: Peeps Place on July 27, 2014, 06:32:26 AM
Anonibet opened their facebook page in 2011. Anonitips opened his page in April 2014.

u r wrong... anonitips opened his facebook page in 2011... look again...

I think anonitips is one of anonibet first bosses... the facebook page was opened long time ago and he forgot he had anonibet address and logo in contact info when he used the account for contest...






Quote from: Legend_ on July 30, 2014, 09:46:43 AM
anonibet change to a- is joke... they still first place after 22 btc scam ha haha... need bigger punish to teach them not to cheat us players...

Quote from: knightdk on July 14, 2014, 10:02:55 PM
Meme not followed this rule https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=588961554552303&id=139078896207240
They chose most likes it's very wasted my time to invited my friends to like that page. Enough for Anonibet now likes drop SHAME!!

Quote from: jjc326 on July 15, 2014, 03:09:35 AM
Quote from: Legend_ on July 15, 2014, 01:07:37 AM
Quote from: AnoniTips on July 14, 2014, 11:07:05 PM
its not removed, its still there, join me and i will help you with some tips... we will win together

OK you put it back but now removed the www.anonibet.com link from the contact info to clear the trail LOL
luckily it is also shown in the google cache in the ABOUT section that you are anonibet!!!
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk


Jeez Anonibet this does not "smell" good. And it wasn't even for too many BTC.

Quote from: koshgel on July 15, 2014, 05:46:58 AM
Extremely suspicious situation with the contest results and ending. A way to verify?

Quote from: Legend_ on July 14, 2014, 10:38:22 PM
Quote from: AnoniTips on July 14, 2014, 09:53:10 PM
loool, i can asure you i am a regular customer...i bet for fun

yeah so why did you delete your facebook page immediately after I post if you have nothing to hide? Panicked??

it was there since 2011 and you suddenly remove it?

...luckily google has it cached! everyone go now and see...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

ANONIBET U R A PIECE OF SCAM !!![/quote]
2982  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 09, 2014, 04:38:32 AM
the implication was that you would keep attacking me if I didn't upgrade your rating. Read the thread.

I read your thread and didn't find. Please show us. Send a link !

Where and when did we extort you for ratings ?
There are many pages of attacks on your part. It's been going on for 4 months. You have more time to look it up so give me the page where you first started your attacks on Anonibet.

You don't have any morals or ethics. It's OK for posters to accuse a book of cheating in a contest, but it's not right for a book to accuse a book of cheating.

If posters have a problem with the ratings, then I'd like to hear it. You just have an agenda. If you don't like the ratings, then say why. Just saying that I'm on the take is meaningless. Compare books and give reasons.



For sure? arent you reading your post,

i think you are the one who is attacking DirectBet, clear on this thread...

Please, get out of this thread.. and stop in being stupid..

and you are the on who has no ethics and morals, i think you should have respected this thread..

all that you are saying that are negative, all of them just implies to you..
DB pisses in every thread he visits and now he's doing it to his own thread.

Maybe he does on other threads, but clearly not on this one.
You're new here, go back to the beginning and read through...it's pretty one-sided that this 'pees place' guy is mad at DirectBet for not paying him for promoting DirectBet.

You think that I'm mad about something that happened 4 months ago? Start with post 1373. That's why I'm here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1360 We had to lock our thread after 4 months of Directbet spam
2983  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 10:23:53 PM
the implication was that you would keep attacking me if I didn't upgrade your rating. Read the thread.

I read your thread and didn't find. Please show us. Send a link !

Where and when did we extort you for ratings ?
There are many pages of attacks on your part. It's been going on for 4 months. You have more time to look it up so give me the page where you first started your attacks on Anonibet.

You don't have any morals or ethics. It's OK for posters to accuse a book of cheating in a contest, but it's not right for a book to accuse a book of cheating.

If posters have a problem with the ratings, then I'd like to hear it. You just have an agenda. If you don't like the ratings, then say why. Just saying that I'm on the take is meaningless. Compare books and give reasons.


Milw -909/+245 at DirectBet
another book has Mil -553/+422

2984  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 10:14:19 PM
You tried to extort me for ratings. That's what this whole thing is about. I told you it wouldn't work.

This NEVER happened. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Perhaps you can show us some evidence to back up your yet another (false) claim ?
Look at all the attacks that started 4 months ago after you asked for a ratings upgrade. I said, "no" and that's when you went berserk. It's all there to see.

I still have no idea what you're talking about.

Please submit evidence for what you just said : "You tried to extort me for ratings."

Or admit that you were caught lying again.
the implication was that you would keep attacking me if I didn't upgrade your rating. Read the thread. Everyone would come to the same conclusion.
2985  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 10:13:11 PM
Odds for everything have got worse & worse lately. I've been using DirectBet for a few months, past few weeks I've been having Bet365 open alongside DB and not once have DB's odds been better than B365.

Disagree.....their in running soccer prices are superb.
I find I'm using them more and more.
Do you use other books for in game soccer? If you do, how do they compare? Comparisons help me for ratings. The same goes for anyone else. thanks
2986  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 09:52:55 PM
You tried to extort me for ratings. That's what this whole thing is about. I told you it wouldn't work.

This NEVER happened. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Perhaps you can show us some evidence to back up your yet another (false) claim ?

You ask for an upgrade and I say, "no". You start attacking me. You want an upgrade again, I say, "no". You go crazy. What do you call that? It's in the thread.
2987  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 08, 2014, 09:50:21 PM
Webetcoins has now been down for 2 days.
2988  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 09:31:57 PM
DirectBet- Betcoinsports made massive improvements. Go look at the site and compare it to yours. You tried to extort me for ratings.

TB/Cubs total 7.5  under -322/+134 over

moved to -769/+235

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U/O 7.5 Runs (Listed)
Under 7.5 Runs @ -769.3
Over 7.5 Runs @ +235
2989  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
Does this Reagan have any history in the bitcoin betting world?  There was a Reagan who was affiliated with COinbet I believe and stole thousands of dollars.  Would be an interesting coincidence.  
The Reagan from peepsplace isn't the same as the one with Coinbet. He dealt with just the fiat books in the past. The forum is just a hobby for him. He's written a baseball handicapping book and likes to bet first 5 innings of a game. He's also very good handicapping totals in college basketball. He regularly beats line movements.

Oh wait a minute I actually think I've heard of this guy haha.  On another forum, doe he interact with another guy who posts a lot of 5 inning plays on another forum?  

He's actually on this forum, as well...posts under the name 'Skipper2'
 
He hasn't posted here yet. Maybe I'll start a new thread here come college basketball season and bring his plays over. It would be nice to have a thread with all of us posting plays.
2990  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 05:37:42 PM
Does this Reagan have any history in the bitcoin betting world?  There was a Reagan who was affiliated with COinbet I believe and stole thousands of dollars.  Would be an interesting coincidence.  
The Reagan from peepsplace isn't the same as the one with Coinbet. He dealt with just the fiat books in the past. The forum is just a hobby for him. He's written a baseball handicapping book and likes to bet first 5 innings of a game. He's also very good handicapping totals in college basketball. He regularly beats line movements.

Oh wait a minute I actually think I've heard of this guy haha.  On another forum, doe he interact with another guy who posts a lot of 5 inning plays on another forum?  
He may do that but I'm unaware of it. There are a few good handicappers posting that are worth piggybacking.
2991  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
Does this Reagan have any history in the bitcoin betting world?  There was a Reagan who was affiliated with COinbet I believe and stole thousands of dollars.  Would be an interesting coincidence.  
The Reagan from peepsplace isn't the same as the one with Coinbet. He dealt with just the fiat books in the past. The forum is just a hobby for him. He's written a baseball handicapping book and likes to bet first 5 innings of a game. He's also very good handicapping totals in college basketball. He regularly beats line movements.
2992  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 04:42:04 PM

There are many times that books with banners aren't the top rated books.

Historically, the top 3 rated books in Peeps Place "ratings guide" were always the 3 books that paid for banners at www.PeepsPlace.com

BetcoinSports purchased a banner on www.PeepsPlace.com last month and lo and behold, they immediately got upgraded !

Previously, CloudBet had a banner at www.PeepsPlace.com and they were ranked 3rd. Now their banner was replaced by BetcoinSports and as a result BetcoinSports are now ranked 3rd and Cloudbet went down the rankings.

These are the facts. Pure facts.
Complete lies again. This is the first time the top 3 books have banners.

Cassinobitcoin was raised to "B-"
Some time after that Betcoinsports was raised to "B-"
After that, Betcoinsports decided they wanted a banner.

Betcoinsports now meets the criteria for a "B" rating since they have been in business 1 year. They totally revamped their software. Go take a look. A green or red box shows when lines move. You don't get locked out of bets since the confirmation is quick. This also happens with live betting. Positive changes may warrant upgrades.
2993  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 03:12:29 PM
Hi, why are the lines for the NFL pre-season worse then the industry standards? It's -123.5 and -112.4 for the TB/Jacksonville game tonight at +1.5/-1.5. I think I'm going to have to find a new book, since this isn't even remotely beatable long term.


Nitrogen is -105 and -105 on that game.
2994  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 02:51:30 PM
Peeps, you realize I would think not many people are looking at the poll, but then you keep bumping the thread and people might see the poll, right?

He just asks if people think it's fair that you receive money and give ratings.  Isn't that true, that you do do that?  So I don't get what the problem is.
It's misleading since "Reagan" is the owner at peepsplace that puts up all banners and pays the bills at peepsplace. DirectBet is also wrong most of the time to the business relationships that peepsplace has with the books.

 There are many times that books with banners aren't the top rated books. Cloudbet had a "C+" rating while having a banner up at peepsplace. DirectBet just throws a lot of crap on the wall to see what sticks.

Reagan could put up a banner from every book and take them as affiliates but he's not going to ruin his reputation.
2995  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 01:25:00 PM
I've told DirectBet that I have no right to call them out in their thread if their poll is down. With the misleading poll being up, I'll post information to show that "A" and "B" books are better than DirectBet. Those books earned their ratings.
2996  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 12:34:23 PM
NFL preseason money line bet from DirectBet today:



Bears -175/-116 from DirectBet
Bears -125/100 from Anonibet
Bears -128/-109 from Betcoinsports
Nitrogen doesn't have ML up yet but spread -105/-105

DirectBet has the worst lines of any book, bitcoin or fiat.
2997  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 07:25:29 AM
DirectBet isn't on par with the "A" and "B" books.

Not sure who these "a" and "b" people are, but DirectBet officially has the 2nd highest rating by members of this forum out of the 18 different betting sites that received votes. (The person collecting member votes did not receive any payments/bribes from any of the books, therefore would be the most official rating thread on the forum.)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0

Here is the complete guide. Please post reasons if you disagree. Thanks

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook


NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake
2998  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 07:14:40 AM
I'm trying to find Ryan's ratings prior to DirectBet bringing in the shills. I copied this at one point but the quote stopped w/o all the books. DirectBet was #7. I do like Ryan's guide because it is poster generated but can be tainted by shills.

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4.3   nitrogensports.eu
4.1   anonibet.com
3.8   bitcoinlivebets.com
3.8   casinobitco.in
3.5   jetwin.com
3.3   coindrafts.com
3.3   directbet.eu
2999  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – #1 LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 08, 2014, 06:55:21 AM
DirectBet isn't on par with the "A" and "B" books.

Not sure who these "a" and "b" people are, but DirectBet officially has the 2nd highest rating by members of this forum out of the 18 different betting sites that received votes. (The person collecting member votes did not receive any payments/bribes from any of the books, therefore would be the most official rating thread on the forum.)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0

They were #9 until DirectBet brought in a lot of new posters giving DirectBet top votes. If you look at other rating sites, DirectBet is never near the top.

I have nothing against Ryan, and it's good to have multiple rating sites, but bitcoinlivebets was #3 until they went under stealing player's funds. We had a different view point.
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bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.
3000  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 08, 2014, 05:30:39 AM
Nitrogen has -105 NFL and that includes totals NFL regular season and pre-season.
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