however i do like HM charts and thought  It's the year 2023 The Little Red Book of Comrade Hairy MacLairy Charts And Thought -has sold over three billion copies -has been translated into over 200 languages -is a mandatory carry for all humans -is available everywhere; price 6.66 satoshis -is chanted before every lesson, lecture, meeting, game, set and match. so.. 2023 is the new 1984? |
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So if I understand this thread correctly
- currently there is no miner that can you acorn for acceleration of gpu mining
- currently there is no working miner that can use acorn for standalone mining
- no verified info on how many rx570s on eth/xmr can 1 acorn accelerate when/if it will work with some miner
- no verified info on how many 1060s on eth can 1 acorn accelerate when/if it will work with some miner
is that correct?
yes, except your 2nd point. there is a standalone unofficial zen protocol miner. my two 215+ and 101 get me around 925 mhs zen protocol. thats probably about average for my acorns, my 215+ at 190 mhz the 101 at 220 mhz. they are in a nest4x. they can go higher im still messing with them. |
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It's still not clear what the optimum setup is, mainly because initial figures for boosting 1080ti and Vegas are pretty much 1:1 acorn to gpu, which would get very expensive for a 6-8gpu rig.
That ratio will presumably change per algo, so when the miner software is released it'll be a bit clearer where the sweetspot is. Personally, I've just chucked a nest and two 215+ onto a standard crappy mining MB in the full x16 slot, see how that does before creating a bespoke rig...
yup pretty much the same here, got 2x215+ and a 101 on a nest 4x in a x16 (@x8 gen3) slot on my onda d8p rig right now, when the squirrel miner is released i will see how it goes and bring my gigabyte z97x into it as well, it can do x8 x4 x4 at on its three x16 size slots. |
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hello
any windows driver for the AcornNest X4 ?
thanks
the next4x and nest2x do not need windows drivers at this time, as the only miner at this point (the unofficial alpha zen protocol standalone miner) does not need it for the acorns plugged into them to work. when installed they will show up in device manager as "base system device" (or something like that) with an exclamation point and no driver, but will work fine with the alpha 0.11d standalone miner. gpuhoarder mentioned when the driver is needed they will release it. i assume thats when the official squirrel miner is released. |
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^nfi any more either. doubt it somehow. vapourminer you know? lightfoot?
negative. sounds like an april fools joke to me. except for the timing of course. |
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An old comedian named Carol Burnett described childbirth to men, “all of the men in the audience grab your lower lip and pull it over the top of your head”.
thought that was bill cosby that said that. Sorry but the rapist stole it and modified it from Carol Burnett’s old comedy routine. Carol Burnett described what labor pains feel like, she said, ‘Take your bottom lip. And pull it over your head.'”
This is from Bill Cosby’s 1970’s stand-up bit on “natural childbirth” (video after jump) in which he riffs on the Lamaze classes of yore: “The second pain hit, my wife said, [Incomprehensible Words] and STOOD UP in the stirrups, grabbed my bottom lip and said, ‘I want morphine! … ” gotcha. carol burnett was hilarious, cosby too. even if cosby turned out to be a scumbag he was still funny. not like thats bonus points or anything. |
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Congrats on shooting straight! Be extra nice to your wife for a while because she just shot a watermelon out of a place only cucumbers normally go.  An old comedian named Carol Burnett described childbirth to men, “all of the men in the audience grab your lower lip and pull it over the top of your head”. thought that was bill cosby that said that. and @ infofront: CONGRATS! |
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Yeah I have really good boards for the gear threadripper 1920x on a taichi x399
with 32gb ram.
pretty much exactly what you should should use with the 2card nest yup that will be a beast with acorns and top tier gpus. seen some other folks listing treadripper builds for acorns here and there. mighty pricey vs what miners typically build (cheap with very limited other uses) but threadripper/x399 builds (and their intel high end desktop counterparts) are very future proof, and useful way beyond mining if/when the time comes. I can´t find the download link.
And where are the open API doc and specifications ?
I still didn't get an answer after months ! official miner is still not out. there is an unofficial alpha standalone miner for 215+ only [EDIT all acorns now] here, useful for testing basic setups: https://thefpgaforum.com/threads/alpha-zen-protocol-215-acorn-miner-solo.57/#post-297youll need the acorn drivers, cant find the link atm, will post if i can find them, but they are pinned on the fpga discord i believe. EDIT: windows acorn driver www.airsquirrels.com/sqrl/AcornDriversWin-1.0.0.msilinux driver www.airsquirrels.com/sqrl/AcornDriversLinux-1.0.0.tgz |
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well they cost close to double what you can get a 580 for , yeah power use is great an all but i can't see how its worth it at the current time. Especially as you need a very good motherboard cpu and ram which is not what
traditional rigs conist of so you would have to upgrade a bunch of parts.
It all depends on if the software is way better, say for x16 and phi
yeah if this were all it could do i would say its a fail. have to wait for the real miner with gpu acceleration to see if its worth it. PCIe lanes are the key, and how they are connected.. ones direct to cpu vs ones controlled by the chipset. the acorns and gpus need to be on one or the other, crossing can be a bottleneck. at least from what understand, which is admittedly not a whole lot. Going to try the nest x4 with 4x CLE-215+ on my TB250+ PRO with 6x 1080Ti. May just standalone mine on the acorns if I don't have the bandwidth to boost the gpus well.
from what ive heard, most boards made for mining are not going to do well as most slots (aside from slot 0 perhaps) wind up being x1 gen1. my onda d8p is in this class. with these boards there will be bottlenecks on some or all algos. probably depends on the acorn, card and algo. my gigabyte z97x should be able to handle two 215+ and two 1080ts all at x4 gen 3 direct on the mobo. so no bottleneck (I hope). maybe more with thhe nest2x and cards on risers but i want to stay away from risers right now. but lotta people will likely be doing new builds. |
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Keep a few sets of clean pants is my suggestion.
you mean you can still afford laundry soap at these btc prices? damn |
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So, still waiting on the bitstream you need to boost your gpu's?
I would have thought that would have been the first released.
I wonder if they must be custom for each algo, I wouldn't think so.
yup, still waiting. "soon (tm)" is the standard reply when folks ask. a week or two has been mentioned here and there by some people but i dont think they were affiliated with squirrel. from what i understand, the squirrel miner is an all in one miner that will be updated with new algos as time goes on. not having the official miner right now is disappointing for sure but it is what it is. but alpha testing with gpuhoarders unofficial miner is fun i must admit. but not everyone is a hardware tinkerer like i am. |
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Any hashing numbers
on zen protocol in stand alone mode (ie no gpu acceleration, purely the 215+ itself), around 380 mhs for a 215+ @ ~185 clocks. at ~15 watts. 2 core miner (0.11d). someone mentioned thats about what a rx580 does, dunno myself. ive clocked mine up to 191 with no issues. there is no real "stock" clock on acorns as it depends on the bitstream, but 170 (or maybe it was 150?) or so is more or less the recommended starting point for this particular bitstream. keep in mind this is alpha, unofficial software, and not officially by squirrel.. this is from gpuhoarder done as a quick and dirty proof of concept kind of thing. real numbers will have to wait for the official squirrel miner. |
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thanks. i do remember turning something into a token or something.
ill have to do some reading when i get the chance.
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 Only a plain bagel at these coin prices boys. I assume that the cup contains hemlock instead of coffee at this price level? at these prices? probably just mixed some dirt in to give it color. |
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i remember sending a small amount back in the day, then jumping through a few hoops to do something other to register it or something. cant even remember what i did now lol.
im sure i can figure it out but at the moment why bother.
btw i still use mycelium as my phone wallet. at least it works and ive never had a problem with it.
but im sure interested in the full story if anyone has some links to share.
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There are games out there. And you can do stuff in them. Set conditions, variables. Then sit back and watch the madness unfold. Why wouldn't an Elder God do the same with us, just for teh lulz?
and then they program that ONE genius guy to create BTC and save all of the human/finance environment to live happy ever after? satoshi would be a NPC, thats why no one can find him, no longer needed in the simulation. |
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At this stage simulation theory makes as much sense as any other.
someone wrote (sorry dunno who, science fiction author perhaps?) that we arent in a simulation. main reason being that irrational numbers exist. like pi.. something so universally used in nature that a simulation would waste vast amounts of computing power to model it. so basically, in a simulation, no irrational numbers would exist as it would be a poor design for a simulation to include such things. Unless... that's what they WANT you to think! Maybe, outside in the real world, there are numbers that make what we call irrational numbers look entirely rational. If it was a simulation all the weird shit people do wouldn't be programmed in, I mean really, who would program r0ach in?bit rot. need more error correction systems for this simulation. |
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My bank just locked my play account where my most (actually all) FIAT investings located. Called them, she couldn't point out the reason but she said they'll get in touch to inform me.
I am afraid the reason is Bitcoin...
use several banks. i use one specifically for crypto, its linked to coinbase and Gemini and its the only account i have thats associated with crypto. thats its only use. when i cash any out i set aside what the estimated taxes will be and put that into a cd at the same bank. |
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At this stage simulation theory makes as much sense as any other.
someone wrote (sorry dunno who, science fiction author perhaps?) that we arent in a simulation. main reason being that irrational numbers exist. like pi.. something so universally used in nature that a simulation would waste vast amounts of computing power to model it. so basically, in a simulation, no irrational numbers would exist as it would be a poor design for a simulation to include such things. |
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remember books? face to face communications? snail mail? playgrounds? community centers? churches (or whatever your flavor of religion, if any, calls places of worship). town halls? town squares?
heck i could do fine with no connectivity as long as the local library and places of learning stayed open.
Me too. But not many. Have you seen how people have been behaving past few years? People be getting freaky out there  I'm old enough to remember and to have had a life pre the internet, some of the folk that haven't.... yeah some of those younger guys, the millennials will straight up go berserk if you take away their internets man. I mean like this equation here..... No Internets = #metoo x #antifa x 10000 Don't be messin' with no millenials devices n internets connectivity bro, they will shank you and run you over with your own car or something totally rational like that. (Im kidding) yeah ive seen the millennials flip when their internet goes down or phone dies or whatever. not a pretty sight, wouldnt want to be anywhere near them when it happens. me, im more or less self entertaining. ive never been bored in my life, no matter where i was or what i had (or had not) access to. kinda scary that that generation will be the caretakers of my generation when i get to the point of needing care.. i can only hope robotics advances to the point where i can rely on a robot rather than a human if it gets to the point i cant take care of myself. |
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