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2981  Economy / Economics / Re: Does this mean Cash will be extinct? on: December 09, 2017, 04:02:21 PM
Removal of fiat is almost certain to happen sooner or later in majority of developed countries. I would be hesitant to estimate, whether it would be a good or bad sign, though. Cash has it's place and purpose. And it cannot be wired instantly from your pocket to some hacker lol  Grin
It could actually happen in undeveloped countries much earlier than in developed countries. There's this whole issue with "the unbanked", which could be solved by cryptocurrencies and thus eliminating cash in those economies.
2982  Economy / Economics / Re: How much money is needed to manipulate Bitcoin's price by 1%? on: December 09, 2017, 03:26:10 PM

~snip~

manipulating the bitcoin market by 1% does not make sense and totally worthless at all. you cant get any incentives just by doing this kind of insane idea and you would'nt really notice if your manipulation is a succes or not due the fact that its only 1%.


You need a lot of money to manipulate the price of bitcoins. Hence difficult and only billionaires just do it. Similar to BCH that Roger Ver's price is successfully pumped. He sold his bitcoins so that the BCH would increase the price so we have seen recently the rapid rise. Of course, when he earns. Surely many people will be affected.

lol, op is talking about 1% only and not the whole market. there's nothing difficult about it and you can still do it even if your not a millionaire.
You can't move Bitcoin by 1% without several millions. The volume is way too high for that.

Well you could move it by 1% on a single exchange, but to move the whole market by 1% u would definitely need at least tens of millions of dollars.
I'm pretty sure you'd need at least a few billions, staggered across all major exchanges.
2983  Other / Off-topic / Re: Trezor vs Ledger wallet? on: December 09, 2017, 03:25:12 PM
Just get both. They cost virtually nothing compared to crypto returns. That way you can spread your stash across multiple hardware wallets to further secure your investment. You get to try both of them to decide which you like the most for potential future purchases.


And most importantly: You get to support crypto businesses, which is something that we will all benefit from.
2984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Jesus Coin? on: December 09, 2017, 03:23:12 PM
JesusC how is this thread still going?
2985  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Tips for Beginners on: December 09, 2017, 03:22:48 PM
I would take a few weeks at the very least, better a few months off to study indicators and technical analysis before trading even a single penny.
Most people don't have the patience for that and just blindly jump into trading to secure their profits, while in reality they only lose with trading. Also, trading isn't something you learn within a certain period of time.

Markets change constantly, and especially those of the crypto markets. Analysis that may be perfectly applicable today, may turn out to be something that's completely useless tomorrow.

Trading is something that requires you to constantly keep developing yourself, and then try to adapt to how the market changes on almost a daily basis. In current market even the well experienced traders experience difficulties.
Everything requires constantly developing yourself, at least if you want to be good at what you're doing. So there's never a fixed time for anything. But with something like trading especially, where you can actually lose a lot of money, it pays to take some time off to study the fundamentals and some advanced topics of the theory before jumping into the waters. You wouldn't just try to climb a mountain without any safety gear or instructions either unless you're insane.
2986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 09, 2017, 03:15:08 PM
Monroe auction site welcome Monroe is completely meaningful, Monroe than Bitcoin safe, because the Bitcoin transaction blockchain to open view, but because Monroe's user base is still very small, so Still, it is disturbing that law enforcement agencies will have to struggle to find different ways to track the flow of funds across the network once the use of Monroe increases


What is Monroe, dude ?
A famous pop star. Tongue
2987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES | Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform | unofficial supporters topic on: December 09, 2017, 02:46:40 PM
With all this Ethereum cryptokitties overload is the perfect time for waves to stand out!!

If we had a similar application we could show to the crypto world how scalable is the Waves Network! And still with ng coming!

I think waves team should do something to show that we are better than Ethereum and Bitcoin, and this was a perfect opportunity to capitalize!

Someone on the Waves team should look into that. That would be great PR.
The bad part is without Smart Contract, it is hard to be a platform for any DApp, You will see the real worth of Waves when SM is born.

Smart contracts will come as it is on the Waves roadmap.  Waves is still a baby compared to Ethereum so the growth potential will be huge when smart contracts are implemented into the platform.  Right now is a great buying opportunity since Waves NG will be released very soon.  We won't be seeing these low prices ever again in 2018.   

I read this promises of new techniques like 30 times but the price of waves in satoshi never really improved over a longer period. In dollars it improved yes.

I think the Waves NG is in the current value of the coin because it's announced already.
It definitely isn't, because the new platform isn't ready for use yet. And once it is, traders will come flocking which will drive up the velocity of Waves and thus increase their value.
2988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 09, 2017, 11:21:21 AM
A guess how low btc will go this days?
Not much lower. Wrong thread.
2989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟[ANN][ICO] Coinlancer.io CL - Freelancers Of The World Unite - ICO| 14th OCT🌟 on: December 09, 2017, 11:03:34 AM
Freelancing market could really use a platform like that! It can be really tough to find yourself a worthy job in some countries as a freelancer.
That platform is called Blocklancer. Wink

They've been working quite diligently for a long time now. I just wish I found them much earlier than I did so I could've bought up tokens at pre-ICO discounts.
2990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 09, 2017, 11:01:55 AM
Hy rajravin. I follow your posts and you were right 99% Smiley . And I belive crypto ins he owes you some btc  Grin Grin. I bought 300 monaco coin at .0012 btc and now is very low, rajravin what your personal opinion, monaco it will raise again to make some profit Huh Thanks in advance!

Dont worry.
BTC Future trading will start from 10th and 18th Dec
BTC may take a dip due to that. This might indirectly push up the altcoin btc price .
Apart of that, planned JP and KR exchanges will double or triple the MCO price as well.
Stay calm .
Imagine what a new AC and cards would do to the price. A new AC would quickly restore large investors' trust, so it would be either the best or the second best move MCO could do other than rolling cards out for now. The tone regarding the AC has changed quite a bit in the last Slack Q&A too and Kris doesn't seem to be backpedaling on his opinion despite revising his actions, which is something that most public companies don't do (which you can see by the influence that SJWs have on some companies...). Wonder if and when the revised AC will actually come though...
2991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【PRE-SALE】 🌟 【SOLD OUT】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: December 09, 2017, 10:56:11 AM
So when is Blocklancer going to get listed on some exchange or actually do something worth mentioning. There has been a lot of slow trickle into the project.
When do you guys plan to actually implement the platform.
Whats the status for website and server setup for your platform??
If you think that Blocklancer hasn't done anything worth mentioning you haven't been following closely enough.

And it will be listed on an exchange once the ICO starts and ends in January/February.
They are already communicating with several exchanges so that they can get listed immediately after the ICO behind the scenes.

And the platform is progressing just fine, there's a private alpha phase already and I believe the beta - if there is one - should be anytime now too.
2992  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin rise to $500k in three years? on: December 08, 2017, 07:54:10 PM
$500k is too much for a single bitcoin. It may reach that amount if bitcoin will be used by all the people around the world but in three years? I don't think it will jump that high from $15k even $50k will be good if bitcoin reaches that price in three years. 
We went from 1k to 24k in just over 11 months. That's x24. From the current 15~16k it's only about another 30x, which in 3 years could easily be doable if nothing major happens.
2993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 08, 2017, 07:52:29 PM
Did someone get the MCO card correctly? Are they sending to the whole world? Unfortunately non-European cards are being canceled on multiple platforms, if MCO shows a different option from competitors, prices could rise even higher.

Officially , yet to be sent out.
Unsure abt the Beta units though.
Cards will only be offered after the following listings.
Singapore will be the 1st country to receive it

During pre-order for cards they didn't ask which country we are residing in so how will they know where to send out cards?
Wasn't there KYC during the ordering? Or am I mixing cards up?

There was a KYC but I don't think they asked for a forwarding address. I remember entering an email address, phone number, and then directly had to do some ID proof.
So I did recall the photo session properly, thanks for clarifying.

I'm certain that we're not going to be asked for shipping addresses until the cards are ready to roll out by the way.

Hy rajravin. I follow your posts and you were right 99% Smiley . And I belive crypto ins he owes you some btc  Grin Grin. I bought 300 monaco coin at .0012 btc and now is very low, rajravin what your personal opinion, monaco it will raise again to make some profit Huh Thanks in advance!
It will in the short term yes, once the cards start getting shipped at latest. Long-term it depends on whether or not MCO really follows up on delivering the revised AC.
2994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【PRE-SALE】 🌟 【SOLD OUT】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: December 08, 2017, 08:08:29 AM
Just stopped by to see what I've missed and surely interesting stuffs. I like the premium access, can't wait for that. I think the token would be sold out pretty fast Cheesy

You Can always check our latest updates on publication.blocklancer.net  Cheesy
He probably came for the Q&As specific to the thread. They really are a treat to read, since Blocklancer keeps answering each and every one of them in such great detail!
2995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2017, 08:02:44 AM
Oh my god, Bitcoin crashed to 17k overnight. $6k down!! Bitcoin is dead!
2996  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2017, 01:18:08 AM
The banks panicking and trying to walk back the futures decision just underlines the threat they feel...people are getting it
Source?
2997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟[ANN][ICO] Coinlancer.io CL - Freelancers Of The World Unite - ICO| 14th OCT🌟 on: December 08, 2017, 01:07:51 AM
I feel very sad for those who got into this crap, but this scam was too clear to identify by anyone. It's just too sad they would be making away with lots of peoples' hard earned money, what a shame. Now I understand why Blocklancer decided to keep their alpha private, stupid scams like this wont mess real projects up.
I don't. The signs were clear and people have been warned multiple times. If greed gets the better out of someone they need to fall face first into the dirt. Then they can decide if they want to stay on the ground or get back up and learn.
2998  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2017, 12:47:14 AM
I doubt that old hands are scared of price movement since BTC can pull a 80% and hodlers wouldn't even blink.  

But it may pull a premature over-reaction from one of government (e.g. South Korea) and having huge spike in tx when network capacity is only around 500K (even with Segwit) may put pressure on dev team to do something rash without thorough testing.  
Governments aren't supposed to have anything to really say in crypto. That's what it was created for.
2999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES | Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform | unofficial supporters topic on: December 08, 2017, 12:32:47 AM
With all this Ethereum cryptokitties overload is the perfect time for waves to stand out!!

If we had a similar application we could show to the crypto world how scalable is the Waves Network! And still with ng coming!

I think waves team should do something to show that we are better than Ethereum and Bitcoin, and this was a perfect opportunity to capitalize!

Someone on the Waves team should look into that. That would be great PR.
3000  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2017, 12:32:08 AM
So it's 2.5 mio BTC/KRW ($23K) on Bithumb and 2.4 mio BTC/JPY ($21.5K) on BitFlyer.  Even GDAX almost got to USD$20K.  Global BTC daily volume almost $20 billion and network buckling under 200K tx pending, with most of spam tx out of mempool now due to timeout.  

So when are we going to see even the old hands on deck, who got thru all these years somewhat unscathed, become scared?    Undecided

Unless you are margin trading, what is there to be scared of?
Missing out on double moons? There's some insane money to be made that nobody will ever pick up from perfect trades. Tongue
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