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2981  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 11:48:27 PM
You simply cannot time any top. (Traders confident in their own systems may disagree.) If you insist on selling some bitcoin Roll Eyes, you have to set scaled asks.
No doubt JJG can tell us more. Much more. Tongue
2982  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 10:42:12 PM
who was that OG who popped in sometimes with a mining profitability spreadsheet?
I want to link someone doing hist research to it please

I think you are talking about Sitarow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18976

and this chart: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11QS1BBV11KNGTF8N_-fdfmjTZ3WzPQFbLfVrl5n6R8s/edit?usp=sharing

maybe...

Exactly. Thank you so much.
2983  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 10:18:53 PM
who was that OG who popped in sometimes with a mining profitability spreadsheet?
I want to link someone doing hist research to it please
2984  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 09:42:11 PM

Worst case: you got money for free to buy your house.
Best case: you got your house for free and saved some btc

inb4 we'd be in Dire Straits
2985  Economy / Reputation / Re: LoyceV vs DdmrDdmr (and get your own Merit graph: up to 10 users per graph) on: June 05, 2019, 09:36:36 PM
Ah no that was me, fillippone; I was looking at 'newer but useful hat people'.

ETF chose the second graph, 'people who know what they're talking about' (my interpretation).
2986  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 09:20:45 PM
https://newsletter.theblockcrypto.com/w/xM8sZ7ahhnODXgv8SXs8922g/YP8892VNVIYRVlvDXZogYAbg/8u4io427634jLCmxsyiecJBg

good lord
2987  Other / Meta / Re: Lightning Network board on: June 05, 2019, 09:13:05 PM
Or perhaps a Layer 2 board, for threads about Lightning, Liquid sidechain, Statechains and whatever else is coming.

Edit: forgot the deeply forgettable Rootstock, currently buried in the altcoin dept somewhere
2988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
https://twitter.com/pmullr/status/1136337487310336001 thread with updates on Kleiman case
2989  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 08:12:50 PM
oh hey, statechains coming back to discussion, a third layer 2 doohickey, after lightning and liquid, on the trustless/federated permission spectrum
https://twitter.com/SomsenRuben/status/1135866719141076993
https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/statechains-non-custodial-off-chain-bitcoin-transfer-1ae4845a4a39
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In short, Statechains are novel in the sense that they allow you to change UTXO ownership off-chain, while preserving a large degree of censorship resistance due to the ability to withdraw on-chain. It is non-custodial, which naturally reduces risk and makes it easier for the Statechain entity from a regulatory point of view. The end result is a unique layer two protocol with its own distinct strengths and weaknesses.
https://youtu.be/ncpjRsHHUiA?t=5900 shinobi commentary

requires schnorr sigs and eltoo, also sighash anyprevout, which may take some time
adds liquidity to lightning without opening channels from mainchain
could interact with lightning to split up the locked utxo, and/or remove the federation
could also use blinded sigs, adding a layer of privacy

edited to add: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-core-dev-tech/2019-06-07-statechains/
transcript of Somsen's talk, very useful
2990  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 07:37:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iypR0Jfvg6s
mining porn
safe for (proof of) work
2991  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 05:51:55 PM
congrats to VBs  Grin
amazing the disparity in page views on your xclnt threads due (?) to their respective subforums
what's next?
-a history of forks and fork attempts -- xt, classic, unlimited, bch, s2x, all that jazz
-i ran out of ideas for you just now
LOL, What you have to do is give me many, many, merits, ideas for the next issues are not a problem. Kiss
If I do not get big bags of merit, I'll never catch you. Wink
A part of the success is also yours, you gave me several tips when I got to the thread of WO.
My threads are like gratitude to Bitcoin, if Satoshi was here I would settle for thanking him for having created Bitcoin, but unfortunately it is not so, for this reason as a good BTCitcoiner, I feel that they must be related to the origin of Bitcoin.
I have one next in mind but I need a lot of time to document it, I'm sure that if I can check all the information you like it.
Thx, V8
Not for the first time you seem to think I have lots of merits to give but sorry, I've already given them away, and I don't get as many now as i used to. Am quite sure you'll overtake me anyway with all the work you put in. Welcome to pm if you need help. btw I asked LoyceV for this graph a bit ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099167.msg51186664#msg51186664
in this vein:
( the most merited regular wall observers )
2992  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 10:34:30 AM
Lambie I'd love to come to Vegas, but I must insist that we have a serious moment. Perhaps the address at the dinner could be given by that foremost bitcoin expert Ms Izabella Kaminska. I believe you know her well enough to invite her?
2993  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 10:26:44 AM
do fuck off

always drunk or always busy with several things in parallel?  Grin

get the fuck away with that extremely unlikely shit. just kicking the office cat.
2994  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 10:04:24 AM
do fuck off
2995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 09:49:17 AM
At some point you realise, exchanges don't let you withdraw large amounts and banks close your accounts at the mere mention of Bitcoin due to money laundering and liability concerns. Your money is locked into the system, allowing only a few trickles into your bank account.

But then again. Banks are digging their own graves. Can't get money out of the system? The system becomes the new money. All is a question of time.

The guy I buy from regularly on Localbitcoins had his fiat bank account shut down. He’s started a new one & created a bogus company so he can continue to trade.

It’s not difficult to work around money laundering, we have two official businesses but I have 8 directorships. You just filter the money into/through as many companies as you can to reduce taxes.

Besides when bitcoin goes to the moon you won’t want to cash it all out, you’ll be able to live on bitcoin (hopefully).

What you are describing actually *IS* money laundering (instead of a workaround). Risky business if you ask me.

Maybe I have misunderstood... otherwise that is NOT how I would do it...

Quite aside from there being no such thing as 'money laundering', and all of us should do everything we can to get that in our thick skulls, that's how everyone does it. Lots of little useless debt-ridden companies, failed investments in hopeless cousin's ventures and general bad management. Like ... the fiat business world.
2996  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 09:03:54 AM
congrats to VBs  Grin
amazing the disparity in page views on your xclnt threads due (?) to their respective subforums
what's next?
-a history of forks and fork attempts -- xt, classic, unlimited, bch, s2x, all that jazz
-i ran out of ideas for you just now

2997  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 08:49:49 AM
Shelby sez:

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in the future, baths will become very scarce

that's doomsday trollmongering to me. i had a bath only yesterday

some unspecified time in the future.  
no

Raw and unfiltered, folks. And free of any commentary from yours truly.
no comment form tiny moi either.
oh alright, you broke me
"shake that segwit booty"
2998  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 08:38:57 AM
black and white?

its tuesday..and thank Karhu it is almost over...sorry.
yes it would be a great shame if your charts broke the tradition too often and became legible for more than one day a week

+emojis
2999  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2019, 10:48:51 PM
dood just bitcoin and chill

3000  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2019, 10:32:48 PM
Homer citing Cicero citing Plato there, which is all very cosmopolitan.
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