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2981  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Simpsons talks about Cryptocurrency on: February 23, 2020, 05:41:17 PM
This is one damn creepy cartoon to be honest. There are way too many events predicted in episodes for me to consider them purely coincidences. If they had predicted once or twice it would've been something, but it happened so many times I can't even count.

The Satoshi part is honestly really interesting. If these "conspiracy theories" are true and Simpson is directed by some shadow figures, then my older question pops up in my head once again: what if Bitcoin was created by some of the most powerful figures in the world in order to give us a false image of freedom when, in fact, the true purpose of it lays in providing us a smoother transition from fiat to digital?

Very interesting indeed.. Smiley
2982  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Outdated, Loves Ethereum on: February 23, 2020, 01:44:20 PM
I'm not even going to click that interview. This guy is so full of shit and he received more attention than he'll ever deserve during those days he pumped dozens of shitcoins.

Who the hell is still listening to him? I'm sorry if someone reading this is one of them, but those sitting around him and listening to the words coming out of his mouth are mostly the leeches this community doesn't need.

McAfee is changing his words all the time depending on the coins he owns. Didn't he launch his Ethereum-based exchange a few months ago? Oh, what a coincidence - now he shills ETH.. it's not like he earns fees from the exchange (which looks like a failure by the way), right? Grin
2983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling or Casino gambling? on: February 23, 2020, 12:06:21 PM
If I had enough time to play until I won a lot of money, I think waiting a few minutes for my transaction to process shouldn't be a problem.

Interactions between players actually do happen even in online casinos. Moreover, you can chat with everyone without having to walk around the casino.

There are rainbots (I can't recall hearing about something similar in a physical casino) and people can randomly tip you and you can switch between casinos anytime you want without having to physically move..

Casino games sometimes end up with some players being physically beaten which cannot happen in an online gambling game. You can have it on-the-go and play whenever and however you like. Some people also wouldn't like any of their friends to know they've got a gambling addiction.. so online is the way to go IMO.
2984  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Destroying Bitcoin with a single question on: February 23, 2020, 11:38:32 AM
Can you have ~1M people validate the fact that your Excel record is owned by you in a non-deniable way? Can you split the record in 100,000,000 different pieces, transfer every single piece to other people's excel sheets and make this all in a fully transparent and deny-proof way AND have these ~1M people validate every single change for you?

The answer is no. I'd go further with these type of questions, but it makes no sense to me.

Now about your argument that Bitcoin cannot be used to buy properties, it can actually be used to buy almost anything if you're willing to. You can buy cars, real estate, electronics, you can do your grocery shopping, get a hotel room, a lunch.. hell, you can even go get a one-night girl with it. And these are just some examples. Now take your excel sheet, go to Lamborghini's dealership and let them know you want to buy a car with your Excel sheet.. You can throw it in the trash as well, because you can't get any of that.

Your arguments sound more like "praise banks, fuck freedom". Gold would be just as worthless if scientists will ever figure a way to reproduce gold out of thin air - and I honestly believe there's gonna be a certain point where they will. Can just anyone reproduce your Excel record? Yes. Can anyone produce the 21,000,001th Bitcoin out of thin air? No. Can you transform your entire wealth into an Excel record and go around the world having it all sit in your pocket with the possibility of buying fiat again with it at any given time? No.

Hence, your arguments make no sense to me. It looks to me like you don't understand Bitcoin well enough to understand why it's such an amazing store of value. Fuck fiat. Fuck banks. Praise Bitcoin Smiley
2985  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin moves like Gold? on: February 23, 2020, 08:35:08 AM
Quote from: TheUltraElite link=topic=5219385.msg53893193#msg53893193
What is your take on the metal used to prepare the physical coin. They are an additional value to the collectible if made from a percious metal like gold?
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Obviously yes, but my opinion is they don't go together. Although they're both commodities and a safe haven, they're two different things.

For purely collection purposes (i.e. Casascius) that's a good idea, but otherwise no. I'd buy a gold coin with BTC on it for my children or grandchildren, but I wouldn't for myself.

One of the fears I'm having about mixing Bitcoin with gold is that the confiscation of gold in my country would also mean seizing my Bitcoin. And as history shows us, that's entirely possible.

We have to separate the two. Gold is gold, Bitcoin is Bitcoin. There aren't really any similarities except their name (gold and digital gold). Moreover, the states aren't even very happy to know someone's minting gold/silver loaded with Bitcoin on them, so what's the point?

If these coins existed in a much larger quantity, say hello to a 2x risk of investment (the possibility of the precious metal being fake and/or the Bitcoin address showing up as filled with some balance but in reality there's no private key to it).
2986  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Huawei without Google on: February 23, 2020, 01:30:45 AM
WhatsApp does not require Google or any of it's services. Install WhatsApp APK by sideloading from Whatsapp website and you are good to go.
But it's owned by Facebook, so removing all Google apps & services to sideload WhatsApp makes no sense imo..
2987  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Need help on: February 23, 2020, 12:31:59 AM
OP has already posted his thread, hence there's no more need for replies here I believe. I'll PM him right now to notice him about the thread bump 24h rule, as it looks like he's bumped it after less than 1hr.

Edit: I've sent OP a PM about the rules.
2988  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Okay. Charge tax on bitcoin. Is this fair policy? on: February 23, 2020, 12:08:18 AM
Then they're toast. And there'll come a time where the tax man has a chain analysis program that pops out a giant bill for your every move in a fraction of a second.

That excuse reminds me of Lauryn Hill declaring she shouldn't have to pay her giant tax bill because she didn't choose to be born into the system she wound up in. Join the fuckin' club, honey. Funnily enough she wound up in jail.

I feel like the time you're talking about is way closer than we think. Transparency comes with a cost.

The excuse may sound silly, but unfortunately I don't remember a single situation out of many in which one of my friends has ever asked about/thought of paying taxes for their BTC earnings. As I said, the necessary education just isn't there (I'm speaking for my country right now, it might be different somewhere else) and people take these earnings superficially most of the time.
2989  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Okay. Charge tax on bitcoin. Is this fair policy? on: February 22, 2020, 10:23:39 PM
'Because it's on the internet'.

For most people here I'll guess this is the first taxable thing they've ever come across outside their wages and the first time they've been responsible for reporting any tax themselves. Couple that with it coming up out of nowhere and I can understand why it's surprising to some but that doesn't exonerate you from the fooking massive bill you may run up. Wilful ignorance is not a convincing defence.

True. There are some ways to somehow "escape" this event though, like Germany where taxes aren't imposed if you hold your cryptocurrencies for +1yr.

But I think the fiscal education is way too vague everywhere around the world. People just get income without even thinking they might have to pay taxes for their earnings. On the other hand though, I think there are more people knowingly and willingly ignoring the laws and going for the "I didn't even know" excuse.
2990  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto whales hacked, lost $15M BTC and $30M BCH on: February 22, 2020, 09:47:59 PM
There has been some talk in chinese twitter that BeiJing police could (in theory) order the biggest 3 mining pools to do an reorg to get the stolen coins back. So fragile the bitcoin network currently is
That should've happened minutes after the hack if that was the case. This is a scenario in which you have to act quickly. Otherwise, someone's gonna be really damaged from this theft.

If the hacker manages to put their coins in a coinjoin/mixer and spend the BTC and BCH on stuff and then the reorg happens, the products will be delivered basically for free to the thieves and a LOT of Bitcoin users will be affected. Possibly even the reader of this reply, if they had a BTC transaction after the hack and part of the funds (or the entirety) comes from one of the many addresses the hacker had.

The Beijing police won't do shit. Ordering the pools to do a rollback would affect even the largest companies in the world and a reorg will come with a cost. Binance had a $40M hack last year and the reorg idea came up too. However, Changpeng Zhao from Binance tweeted out saying it's a bad idea for a good reason.

First thing that came up in my mind when I read "reorg" in your post was the credibility of Bitcoin. If hacks would lead to the reorg in order to reverse them every time, it would literally be manipulating the blockchain. If so, then how will the miners ensure me they are not going to do a reorg with malicious intentions behind it? I would personally start becoming skeptic and doubt the future of BTC if we ever head that way.

If the police can order that, then it means they can also order the reorg when I spend my BTC in a way they consider suspicious, if I go through a mixing service or, worse, they can seize anyone's funds that way.

There are too many consequences. It's just not worth it. If one is dumb enough to not secure their MILLIONS, then it's their fault. Nobody will reverse time in the Universe if you leave 100kg of Gold uncovered in front of your porch.
2991  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A game that educates people about Bitcoin on: February 22, 2020, 07:51:57 PM
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The game is designed as a series of conversations between two people, one asks questions and the other responds. The responses almost always include a mini game where the player solves a simple task to understand the concept.
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I'm wondering how that will work without making the game itself pretty boring. By "conversations between two people" are you talking about a design similar to Seen?

To promote the game to a higher extent and make it more likely to become popular, I'd add a game inside your app with weekly winners. The game would only become unlocked if you pass 1/2 of the courses, but only practice mode. If you want to win the prizes, you have to finish all the courses beforehand.

Say there's a trading game in there and you have to guess if the price of BTC is going to fall or rise within the next 30 minutes. If you get it right, you get a point. The more you get right, the more points you earn. If you miss a prediction, 2 points are deducted OR your score resets. The winner at the end of the week (with the highest points) would be rewarded a little prize ($10?).

I know there's a quite large number of people willing to spend their time on apps to earn even a few cents. If you're going to make a little competition, more will be interested to join.

Kids vs adults shouldn't be a concern. Kids learning about BTC and financial freedom is a great idea. They should grow up with decentralization in mind imo. Fuck the state-controlled worthless paper money. Adults who are interested to learn more about BTC (or, if the idea above turns into reality, even those interested in trading only) will download your app if the design is user-friendly and fun enough.

Best of luck with the development, make sure you leave some updates here every now and then!
2992  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Huawei without Google on: February 22, 2020, 06:55:56 PM
I wish I could go completely Google free, but my options would then be limited. One big issue for me was that WhatsApp really is a need and I believe there's no point in going for a fully free experience where you're off Apple/Google/Microsoft/whatever other company's track if the experience will not really be fully free. I believe WhatsApp doesn't even work if you remove absolutely everything related to Google from your Android phone, but I may be wrong.

Anyways, the point I was trying to make is, although I'd really like going for a fully free experience, there are apps I can't find an open-sourced version of so I still have to use some close-sourced apps.. yes, removing everything Huawei/Google related off your phone and having only a few close-sourced apps you really need is better than leaving all default stuff inside your phone. But I guess you get my point..

If you want to go off their radar as much as possible, you're going to go through a big headache. You'll probably just then find out how many apps you're using are not open-source and there's no alternative versions of them. You can't use social media either, and your communication with others will have to go through some app like Signal.

You can use a Replicant-supported phone and get their OS on it (or buy one from Technoethical), this is the best fully-free OS I have found yet. Other alternatives I have seen are CopperheadOS (I wanted to install it on my older Nexus but I have never tried it, apparently it isn't supported anymore for Nexus; keep in mind it only supports a few phone models) and LineageOS.

Removing all Huawei or Google apps and services will also remove the app store. You can then opt for F-Droid and get open-source apps off their store. Good luck! Smiley
2993  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto whales hacked, lost $15M BTC and $30M BCH on: February 22, 2020, 03:34:37 PM
Holding millions of dollars and not even caring about the minimum security of your funds. Pretty dumb.

I can't take the risk of losing even $1 worth of BTC. If I was to own this much money, I'd probably spend more than five grand on security. Those relying on their email/phone or on a centralized service such as Blockchain.info, especially with these immense amounts at stake, is stupid as the risks are obviously there..
2994  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Bitcoronavirus - Virus outbreak strategy game with Bitcoins on: February 22, 2020, 02:53:53 PM
Well, to get referrals is an important aspect of the game, but you also have other features to make it more interesting. First, everybody gets random referrals (all users are assigned to an upline). Secondly, some users may not be able to get enough antivirals, they will die and the antivirals will be distributed among other players. Finally, you have the Antiviral boost feature that is like a lottery that distributes an Antiviral Pot once a day.
I still haven't received an answer to my question..

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If the levels and number of referrals can be infinite and your chances grow the more people sign up through your infection link, isn't this some kind of referral ponzi?
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Referrals being an important aspect of the game means these who cannot get enough invited people deposit on your game have a smaller chance of winning. At one point, in the ideal situation of this game becoming super popular, there's going to be no more people to invite through a link as most/all interested players have already joined the game once. We also have influencers like youtubers who could gather thousands/dozens of thousands of referrals in no time. Will they not also have a large advantage in the game.. until the moment comes when there will be no more people using their ref link?
2995  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why we have slow steps about convincing governments to accept bitcoin? on: February 22, 2020, 02:35:25 PM
CZ just put out a statement:

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“There is a mix of truth, FUD & misconception. http://Binance.com is not headquartered or operated in Malta. This is old news & has always been the case, hence there is quite a bit of FUD turning this into a breaking story. The community’s comments show that understanding.”
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This mixture of truth, FUD and misconception kept Binance in the top of the list IMO. The misconception about their headquarters and the false impression most of us (including me) got about them being based in Malta gave many of their customers some belief that Changpeng Zhao moved his entire exchange to a crypto-friendly country, hence the false impression of safety has been created at the same time.

You guys need to wake up and understand the chances of convincing a state to accept Bitcoin are slight, especially if we consider top powers in the world (China, USA etc). It's just not gonna work - it's against their principle.
2996  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin The Best Safe-haven In The Wake of Financial Crisis? on: February 22, 2020, 01:11:10 PM
Sounds like a Vollar advertisement disguised in an article to me.

Moving from Bitcoin to another currency doesn't help with anything and won't make anything better. Bitcoin is great the way it is today and whatever you'd like to talk about, with the exception of a few coins such as Monero, pretty much any coin you'd like to talk about is more "centralized" than BTC..

For me it is the best asset you can own during hard times. Send all your wealth to a piece of paper, put it in your pocket and go wherever you'd like around the world without any fear of someone finding out you've got a ton of metal or a bag of banknotes with you. The anti inflationary structure of it also guarantees there's no way someone's going to pour a billion BTC into circulation at any given time. Is there anything better than this to own to protect our wealth from the crisis? Smiley
2997  Local / Presa / Re: LDV Bank aduce criptomonedele în casele de schimb valutar on: February 22, 2020, 01:18:30 AM
Mulțumim pentru feedback! Ca și răspuns la întrebarea ta, putem menționa câteva aspecte:
- legislația în momentul acesta este destul de complicată, noi am plecat ca un proof of concept. În mod normal și noi am vedea ca până în 5k-10k RON să nu fie nevoie de identitate, dorind să aducem beneficiile crypto către tot mai multe persoane, dar avem și partea asta de regularizare care ne omoară și nu ține de noi. Facem research constant încât să putem oferi niște limite rezonabile de bani fără buletin, deloc, dar în același timp să fim și legali, conformi cu tot ce impune legislația sub jurisdicția căreia operăm.

Înțeleg, are sens. Ar fi o veste splendidă să aflu că legislația permite așa ceva, iar în cazul în care găsiți în viitor o soluție, vă recomand să treceți acest aspect (posibilitatea de a tranzacționa anonim în anumite limite) drept unul dintre punctele forte al serviciului oferit pe website.

Având în vedere existența multor ATM-uri pe teritoriul românesc care au limite de tranzacționare anonimă (sau nu au limite deloc), gândurile mă duc înspre ideea că trebuie să existe o "portiță" și pentru voi.

Mi se pare foarte interesantă ideea dezvoltată de voi și garantez că aș avea un sentiment mult mai puternic de siguranță dacă aș ști că tranzacționez cu o persoană și nu cu o interfață digitală care îmi poate sechestra în orice moment banii.

Am să pun deoparte link-ul site-ului și am să îl verific din când în când. Sper să fie un succes pentru voi. Felicitări! Smiley
2998  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Bitcoronavirus - Virus outbreak strategy game with Bitcoins on: February 21, 2020, 11:27:15 PM
I took a look over the website. Sounds interesting, but one particular thing popped up in my eyes with a little question mark: referrals.

If the levels and number of referrals can be infinite and your chances grow the more people sign up through your infection link, isn't this some kind of referral ponzi?

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Whenever your referrals make a payment, you will receive rewards of Antivirals proportionally to your Antiviral Power.
I took this quote from your webpage, and I don't want to be that guy but sounds quite sketchy to me.

If I have to gather affiliates to earn Antivirals with the final purpose being recovery and winning the game, then at one point the number of referrals I and everyone else will get will peak and then start to decline naturally.. am I getting something wrong here?
2999  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sending Bitcoin through SMS/Text Messaging? on: February 21, 2020, 11:15:10 PM
IIRC, a few years ago there was this way people could steal your identity and your most important & valuable accounts by calling AT&T or whoever you've got your SIM card from and telling them you'd like to swap sims. I believe there are also other methods to do this that do not imply calling the mobile company you're working with.

Therefore, launching a service that lets people use BTC through SMS would make scammers turn their focus over this new crypto sending method and vulnerabilities will more than sure be found one way or another.

One idea I think of, although I'm not a programmer so it could sound stupid as well, is there could be an open-source app like Signal created specifically for purpose where these transactions or private keys could possibly be encrypted and compressed and somehow all parties transferring money to you and receiving from you via SMS would have the secret keys to decrypt these messages. The app could serve as a "secret key storage" in order to decrypt the transactions and make them readable.

However, I'm not sure how reliable this kind of app would be. Signal relies on a centralized server AFAIK, so unless there's a way an app serving this purpose could be created and be open-source & completely decentralized, there's probably no way you can send a transaction or basically any sensitive information through SMS in a trustless and secure manner.
3000  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 0.28 bitcoin to be in the 1% of richest bitcoin holder on: February 21, 2020, 05:32:57 PM
That's insane. This shows how much of a value Bitcoin is starting to become. To me it's not very different to telling me "1oz of gold to be in the 1% of the richest gold owners", because I've always considered Bitcoin a cheap commodity for what it is capable to do.

This thread is gonna be interesting in a decade. Very interesting. Smiley
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