Why would an attorney need to know what Bitcoin is?  
Are you seriously asking this?
You really aren't that bright, are ya?  

I did reply with my ref's name. Hope we get this sorted, thanks.

I will gladly compensate 20% of the funds I am due from bitcasino upon payment for their help

Can you please repost this and format it properly.

It seems like you added double spaces every word and its very difficult to read. Did you repost this from somewhere is that why the formatting is off?

All I know is that people in the past complained about Bitcasino for practices such as this and it would of been best to avoid the casino at all costs.

If you lost your balance gambling, there's really nothing that can be done. I personally think casinos should never allow people to gamble while withholding a payment to prevent this very thing, but if you lose your money you can't really expect them to revert your loss (just as it would be unreasonable for them to revert a win).

Tim and the team made me whole on the discrepancy - like I said they are not a scam shop - it was just a miscommunication

I will gladly compensate 20% of the funds I am due from bitcasino upon payment for their help

In regard to the honeyhoney1 account post from above, here are the facts of the case.

Account opened on 22nd of June, 2016.
Unverified account.

24th of June deposit of ฿ 8, winning on slots and a withdrawal of ฿ 80 - withdrawal paid within 2 minutes of being requested - customer very happy!
  
The withdrawal was requested using the same IP address and device, that was used during the signup process, so no red flags.

Within hours of the initial withdrawal being processed, the customer logged in from a different location (different IP), a different device and made 3 deposits, winning on slots games and started making multiple withdrawals.

Due to the withdrawals coming from a different device and location, it immediately raised a red flag for our team, whereby we naturally followed the KYC procedure outlined in our terms and conditions. This is done to protect our customer’s funds from any fraudulent activities or hackers. This is in our T&C and is a standard procedure we follow to ensure customer safety as per 3.11 and 5.4 in https://bitcasino.io/about/terms-and-conditions.

Regarding the communication and transparency from Bitcasino side.

The KYC email that customer states to have never received, ’it was sent to the email address registered on the account honeyhoney1 on the 25th of June, 2016.

After sending the email, the customer spoke to our support agent via our live- chat. During the live chat conversation, the customer expressed concerns about sending documents to a “random” bitcoin casino. Also, he informed Bitcasino that he wouldn’t be able to access that email due to server issues.

Bitcasino provided an alternative to the customer, guiding him to our onsite upload functionality. Whilst the customer was talking to our support agent a driver licence was uploaded (front side only). The driver’s licence uploaded was not approved by our quality and assurance department as it was obviously fake and didn’t match his geo-location, which raised doubts about to whom we were actually talking.

Bitcasino repeatedly requested the customer to upload the front and back side of the identity document and the utility bill for geo-location verification.

The requested withdrawals were then placed back on customers Bitcasino account until the player had satisfied this request and we had verified that it was the actual player. 3 hours after the live chat, the customer had still not uploaded any further documents and decided to start playing instead.

The customer played high volatility slots with very high stakes varying from m฿ 100 to m฿ 3,000 and unfortunately lost all his account balance.

In essence, we have not broken our terms and conditions in regards to your claims, especially given the fact that no funds have been confiscated or misplaced. Most importantly in this whole case, the uploaded documents were not in the players name therefore we did not know who is in control of that account.  If he had uploaded his real documents, his withdrawal would have been processed within 2 minutes like everyone else's.

Bitcasino Team

Posting a players real name and account balance is a MAJOR breach of your gaming license

"Every government that issues gambling licenses has some kind of AML/KYC procedure & regulation integrated in the license when amounts go over specific thresholds or there is reason to suspect fraudulent behaviour"

From their response i gathered that different device was used and from different location and you couldn't access your registered email. If i were you i'd be really happy if my casino provider refuses to pay out like this. looks like really big chance that someone just got access to my account and tries to take the money. wouldn't you agree? when when you don't agree with this i cannot see any justification for the scam accusation, at MOST it's just uncomfortable customer journey as they actually havent broke any laws or terms and conditions? if the right to kyc clients was included into terms and conditions and you accepted those terms by registering and playing?

Hey "investments specialist" cmon, how can you not know that in cases like this operators ask for KYC not for fun but because they are legally obligated to do so?? Every government that issues gambling licenses has some kind of AML/KYC procedure & regulation integrated in the license when amounts go over specific thresholds or there is reason to suspect fraudulent behaviour (again, in our example not being able to response from registered email and accessing the casino from different device/id would looks suspicious right?)

http://www.igamingbusiness.com/directory/curacao-e-gaming
https://www.trulioo.com/blog/bitcoin-regulation/

Is there any record of a player going to your regulator (curacao) and getting any sort of decision...or even response?  (not just for your site, for any site they license)

Is there any public record of the actual regulations you have agreed to follow?  Are there any that are put in place to protect players?

From what I can tell, Curacao basically requires a fee to be paid in exchange for a "license" - which allows you to open a bank account.  I've never heard of them even once step in to protect a player.  I have seen casinos use the excuse "we have to keep your money/see your ID because of our regulators..." plenty of times though. (Obv I don't buy it)

@peterpanbtcman Is this true?


If you lost your balance gambling, there's really nothing that can be done. I personally think casinos should never allow people to gamble while withholding a payment to prevent this very thing, but if you lose your money you can't really expect them to revert your loss (just as it would be unreasonable for them to revert a win).

I'm not sure why you keep posting all this nonsense? The contact details of the Curacao gaming board are here: http://www.lacarga.org/GCB/    You should be able to clear up your misunderstanding in a few minutes.

The customer played high volatility slots with very high stakes varying from m฿ 100 to m฿ 3,000 and unfortunately lost all his account balance.

Within hours of the initial withdrawal being processed, the customer logged in from a different location (different IP), a different device and made 3 deposits, winning on slots games and started making multiple withdrawals.

It contains our website address and that the license is active for this conversation is over!

I'm not sure why you keep posting all this nonsense? The contact details of the Curacao gaming board are here: http://www.lacarga.org/GCB/    You should be able to clear up your misunderstanding in a few minutes.