I believe that cryptos will be the new way of transactions in the near future. I am not sure if the cryptos we know today will be those who will be used in this future. This is the reason why I am sceptical and I don't invest much in it. The early adapter of cryptos didn't have the way of thinking of the today people. They wanted to free people from banks and monetary institutions. Today everybody talks about profit, how to make 2K a month and how to be a millionaire.
O tempora o mores!
"They wanted to free people from banks and monetary institutions." this idea is revolutionary. If there is a revolution then tehre will be some profit for some people. And they are trying to get it. I don't like thise greedy attact but that's the truth I can see. |
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Wings' product is not enjoying the right demands, few investors understand it but it makes a good publicity after the crowdsale but now it is fairly heard. It need a positive news
Beta release, reward payments and more forecast. And as I can follow they're working on those. What else there can be as a positive news? |
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The price is shitty low, I bought starta with bitcoin, but bitcoin had 10x pump while starta is still 1 usd without any decent volume.
Yes, the current price is well below the ICO price. I am not sure if it will ever recover or exceed the ICO price as with many other cryptocurrencies that have taken a hit as well. The starta ico is my worse performing ico that I have participated in as of date. It's also the reason I have been hesitant to do any more icos when there are a bunch of good projects that are undervalued. You need to look at the whole market now) All the cryptocurrencies fell very low even began to rise a little. Starta had a price of almost $3. Watch the site https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/starta/ to not miss the moment. All got lower lately but remind you that Starta is low from the start. Sometimes it goes up but those fluctuations can't be counted because lack of liquidity. |
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I'm reading this conversation and I want to answer to you, gorrion on this point
"I supposed some Exchanges like Coinbase or Bittrex never hacked because high security, but who knows. Anyway if you send Ethereum to REAL ( the company ) they can be hacked as well, if they are hacked probably the REAL token will suffer. "
Yes exchanges have high security but potentially they can hack them.
When you send ethereum to a smart contract it's not possible that it can be hacked, unless the contract itself is bugged like the DAO or recently, Parity's multisig contracts. An example is etherdelta, they got hacked but unless you were dumb to put your private key in while it was hacked (it was suspicious that suddendly your address didn't appear in the top right corner) you didn't lose your ethereum and tokens
Thanks for your answer. So if you send crypto with smart contract will be 100 % safe. I thought insured bitcoins or cold storage as Coinbase offers could be other posibilities, but not expert. But still in the dark about how really works the REAL token, and how can you participate in an stable real state investment if the token fluctuates in the exchanges. I will wait for the platform to see if their idea makes sense. By the way they said before the ICO in an interview with Ian Balina ( he gave 5 stars to this ICO ! ) that the platform would be live in October 2017 and still i have not seen even the beta version. REAL is very simple. They will invest in real estate and if the investments do well, you will make money. There's really nothing else to consider besides the real estate strategy when analyzing the opportunity. Well for ICO investors they put 100 % money but received just 50 % of tokens. So if it was that simple was a terrible investment. So we expected the token in exchanges could do well. But I don’t see clear how token can be in exchanges if it is thought to be used to buy properties. It will be simple for me changing opinion if someone could answer me those simple questions:
1 - To buy a part of property people has to buy REAL in exchanges ? or people has to buy sending ETH to the platform ? 2 - And if people sell their part of property how they will be paid, in ETH or in REAL 3 - And in any case who will determine the value of REAL, the company or the market in the exchanges. You're right. It was a terrible investment for anyone who bought into the ICO because you paid to fund an asset (the technology) that doesn't generate any return for you. As a buyer from an exchange, it really is as simple as deciding if you like the real estate strategy. To answer your specific questions: 1) Yes. To buy properties (using RPP tokens), you first need to own REAL. 2) I think if you want to sell your property interest (RPPs), you'll get REAL back. 3) The market determines the value of REAL As an ICO investor, still my hopes are high that it can pass that price after it is fully fanctioned. I was expecting more updates in January actually. |
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I was expecting bigger affect on price.
Anyway I'm keepig my OCL tokens, doesn't matter if there is airdrop or not.
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There are good sides of this kind of big drops.
They remind people that they can lose their money so quickly. And importance of choosing solid projects for investment.
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Hello again, are my eyes wrong? Plutus is still not on any significant exchange? concept of people buying for internal exchange misses. Everyone with payment cards was ahead of you, even though they started work a year later
Correct they aren't listed on any significant exchange. But seems possible to me. If you read last announcmement about that, it could give you some idead about future of the listing process. |
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STA is security type token, it won't be listing on bittrex, maybe you can try gate.io.
Do you know if we can get dividend by holding STA? If the answer is yes, how will it be paid? They don't pay dividend unfortunately. They buyback STA tokens from the market with the profit they got from their portfolio. |
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Real was my worst investment in 2017, they got about 15 millions USD in the ICO and apparently they want to use it to buy some small hotel in Mallorca. You can't communicate with them in their Telegram channel, closed to people. As well now you can't access now their webpage, they are very secretive and just pop up a message that they are working in the platform. I invested because some of the members have some prestigious, like Bernardo Hernandez ( ex executive at Google and partner now in venture capital E.Ventures,but it seems he just lent his name to the company but bot involved much, just advisor occasionally ). It seems founders and advisors are involved in many different projects and don't do much contribution to this company. Learned an important lesson here: what seems a good team can be an horrible one. Not sure even if they have any developer that knows something about blockchain ( now you can't check the team in website ). The founder Enrique Dubois has worked in projects in social media and gambling, he is quick to spot new opportunities and promote himself but his projects never really highly successful: https://www.kippel01.com/empresa/enrique-dubois-mola-y-bernardo-hernandez-eventures-llevan-el-blockchain-al-real-estate-con-real.htmlI invested during and after the ICO. I'm in loss. But still holding. Still believe I will get good return in long term. Not short term obviously  |
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NEW FORECASTS LIVE NOW! Check wings.ai and forecast. MoxyOne and Brixby ready  thanks for info  these forecasts are really hard but I think now everyone knowss that even with a small amount of wings you can win big rewards it's seems more profitable to split rewards even with these high transaction fees. Yes, thanks for updates! Why didn't i recieve notifications on mail?  Nice spike up today! Are we going moon? Damn .can't find my spacesuit It was probably a random pump lol. Wings will moon someday, Maybe after Beta launch. I just forecasted on both the project, What are you guys going to do? Forecast on both or just one? Good to get 2 new forecast rewards on the board. And Wings is showing some strength in this bloodbath. Hope it'll be continuous. |
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I go for Binance as they have flexible policies for non-verified users, great interface, enough volume and enough token pairs.
And they build up good reputation in a short period of time.
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They gambled with our money and with Bitfinex being given the court orders, we are screwed regarding ethereum appreciation.
Thank you REAL team
What court orders? Bloomberg is just a FUDding machine : https://twitter.com/BTCVIX/status/958416711526617088 . About ethereum, remember that when calculated the new budget eth was at $400 if I recall correctly, so just chill and wait for more news Yes but similarly, they have illustrated crap risk management. They should have parted with a %, especially at the recent highs. Whether you think it will rise in the medium to long term, it is not right to speculate with the community's money, especially after the ICO price tanked and investors lost the opportunity cost of holding ether, which they themselves don't seem to be capitalising on. Cashing out is always have some risks. It was below $400. And some of though it was good opprtunity to cash out partly when Ethereum was over $500. Then $1000. I don't know their strategy but there is good amount of money waiting for buying some properties which give real value to the tokens. I think the point is that people invested in REAL to be real estate investors, not crypto speculators. Sure, prices might go up, but investors could have held on to the ETH themselves if that's the bet they wanted to make. I also agree that REAL should be a way to invest in real estates. But I don't think all the ivnestors are thingking the same. Many people will use it for like as other coins. |
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Yes I believe it in with many ways. But mostly I see it as a great new economical way. Which I'm talking is tokenization. It can be huge. Of course there are many other projects working on real world usage and some of them are really kicking  |
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get into ETH and HODL. its better than waves
For now I don't think both can be comparable in many ways. I also also think that Ethereum has many advantages over Waves right now. But the thing is we're investing the future of the projects. If they have higher potential then better invest that. |
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Great news! Radar Relay has been geeting some attention lately. Now it's big ones turn. Hope some of them will list Plutus soon which seems quite possible to me |
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They gambled with our money and with Bitfinex being given the court orders, we are screwed regarding ethereum appreciation.
Thank you REAL team
What court orders? Bloomberg is just a FUDding machine : https://twitter.com/BTCVIX/status/958416711526617088 . About ethereum, remember that when calculated the new budget eth was at $400 if I recall correctly, so just chill and wait for more news Yes but similarly, they have illustrated crap risk management. They should have parted with a %, especially at the recent highs. Whether you think it will rise in the medium to long term, it is not right to speculate with the community's money, especially after the ICO price tanked and investors lost the opportunity cost of holding ether, which they themselves don't seem to be capitalising on. Cashing out is always have some risks. It was below $400. And some of though it was good opprtunity to cash out partly when Ethereum was over $500. Then $1000. I don't know their strategy but there is good amount of money waiting for buying some properties which give real value to the tokens. |
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Never ever. Why would I invest in a scam? Even sometimes it is profitable for first comers(not always ) |
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Guys, guys, I know that you want REAL to go to the moon but in my opinion even if it'is going to hit every exchange in the world, I don't expect to see a large volume, most tokens will be exchanged for RPP in the internal exchange when things will roll, and locked obviously. Which is the purpose of this token, if you're holding it for speculative reasons you chose the wrong project
One side is being speculative and you're right on that. But one side of exchange is more liquidity. Which every tokens need. Yep was talking about liquidity, which in my humble opinion will be low even if you list it on every exchange. Maybe a partnership with Bancor would be a good idea. If you don't know what Bancor is about, check it https://medium.com/wespostdotcom/bancor-bnt-a-solution-in-cryptocurrency-liquidity-e15b130e6000I agree most part but still believe that more exchanges are needed. Maybe decentralized ones at first. Like you said Bancor, maybe RadarRelay and other ones. This reminds me TaaS actually. They're paying dividends, not need so much liqudity or markets. But when you need to buy/sell it would be definitely good to do it without so much fluctuation. Was thinking about TaaS too! When I bought it like a month ago I had to do it accross several days because otherwise if I would did it in one go, I had to buy several sell orders driving the price up. That's a liquidity problem and I know that now TaaS is integrated into the Bancor network, but if you look for it, it doesn't show on the main page, only if you open the scroll menu, dunno why I support being listed on decentralized ones. Maybe they are the futures. But right now they are lack of liqudity even they have different solutions on this problem. At least some mid exchange is needed IMO. |
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Looking good. As you mentioned one of the latest blog posts, you're ready legally for get listed on exchanges. Can share what's happening right now? |
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