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301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 04, 2014, 06:50:28 AM
I'm still having trouble starting a MasterNode with a local wallet and a VM server.  Can anyone please help me?  I did do a ./darkcoind getaccountaddress 0 and got a different address from what I was using before.  I sent the coin to that address, tried again to start my local wallet up with ./darkcoind -masternodeaddr="server's ip address" , then went to my server address and tried to start the MasterNode, and got "not capable masternode" again.  I wanted to check my "address 0" to make sure that it was correct, so I did ./darkcoind getaccountaddress 0 again, and got a completely new address (I think it just generates new addresses??)  So if it just keeps generating new addresses, I honestly don't think that's the problem

Please, can anyone suggest what I might be forgetting or where to look for issues?  Thanks so much!!
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 04, 2014, 06:32:17 AM
I know a few people are worried about the drop in price but I'm not sweating it. I think it bares repeating that fundamentals will always win out.

There are macroeconomic risks, like with anything else, but let's look at the fundamentals: we have committed developers that have proven their abilities, we're early in the crypto game with most of the public yet to jump in with their wealth, we have a gap in the market for an anonymous decentralized digital currency and we're achingly close to releasing the final DarkSend product.

Just like a producer which has oil in the ground, there are fundamentals that haven't changed, despite the slight changes in psychology, sentiment and the short attention span of some traders. Scam coins will flare up and fade away but something like this has fundamentals in its favour.

Just my 2c. Good luck to us all.

I totally agree, and what I've noticed about our developer is that he's not afraid of changing code.  A lot of people who have devoted time into an implementation of a section of code, will avoid changing it like the plague.  Evan seems to love rewriting it to make it better, even if that section ends up being 8X longer, and he'll do it yet again, making it 2 X smaller and totally change the function around, if it made the product work better.

In other words, I've noticed he doesn't fear work or change, but seems to thrives on making things better.  Just my observations.  It is scary though, that we mostly only have him, and InternetApe at his side.  Would love to someday see 3 good passionate programmers working together.  Maybe when the coin matures it will attract some talent Smiley
303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 04, 2014, 06:24:50 AM
@Simcom Every time you believe that you may have find a flaw with DarkSend but yet you don't seem to totally understand or know about the way it works. Take your time to read the thread, some of your questions and concerns have already been answered long ago.

LOL seriously?  The last issue I raised (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6459044#msg6459044) was so serious that Evan decided to devote an entire release (RC3) to fix it.  I am just trying to help. :/

He is constantly refining things in upcoming releases, he didn't say he would be devoting an entire release to this.  He just said he'd add it to the next release.  He has no set schedule, just a loose plan.  If he needs 50 RC releases to get it right, he'll use them.  I certainly didn't get the impression that the issue was so serious he had to do a new release.  He has a lot of refinement to achieve before full release.

Anyway, it is indeed nice to know Evan is always keeping an eye on the thread, even if he isn't always commenting.  He seems to pop up when good points are made, which is really awesome.
304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 04, 2014, 06:14:11 AM
what's the TL;DR for the issues being discussed?

To have good anonymity, the amount disappearing from the sender's address must have a low probability of being close to the intended payment. This is accomplished by low granularity. E.g. to spend anywhere from 100 to 1000 DRK, you must input 1000 DRK. This is obviously inconvenient because what if I want to send 115 DRK but only own 180 DRK?

Providing more granularity either in the protocol itself or by manually doing multiple Darksends (e.g. 100 + 10 + 10) causes plausible deniability to plummet. Sure it may still be hard for a human to piece together a set of possible histories, but a computer could analyze millions of permutations per second and possibly give confident inferences of the sender-receiver mappings.

I agree that this is a valid concern. Don't overestimate the degree of anonymity just because it quickly gets messy in your human head -- blockchain analysis by computers have produced impressive results for connecting BTC holdings to identities despite the complexity provided by a large user base.

Temporal spreading of sends is a possible solution, though very inconvenient for users.

If every input comes with a different address (which it already does), how would anyone know that the 6-10 coin deposits you put into a pool of other 10 coin inputs are yours?  Even if there is an output of 550 coins in the group, how would anyone know which 6 accounts made up the input? and from which wallet?  As I understand it, only the wallet knows which addresses belong to it?  No?
305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 04, 2014, 05:37:35 AM
what's the TL;DR for the issues being discussed?

Darksend pools coins, but it requires more coins than you are sending to enter a pool. (eg want to darksend 121 coins, you 1000 coins in your wallet so your coins can enter the 1000 coin pool, you get 879 coins back as change)

Several good solutions have been proposed, but no perfect solution.  

I like chaeplin's idea: to send 121 coins, you need 130 in your wallet (not 1000).  This breaks down into: 1 entry into the 100 coin pool, 3 entries into the 10 coin pool. sender receives 9 change coins. If routed through several cycles of darksend it would be hard to de-anonymize the transaction.  

Ah, yes. A 1000 to send 101 is kind of silly.... even if it was treated as a send of 100 and another of 10 with 9 change that'd be better. And maybe 100+3x10 for 121 with 9 change.

I don't understand why all transactions can't be multiples of 10, except when 10 coins become worth so much money, that not many people would have so many coins.  But even so, it doesn't matter as far as speed, however it'd make the blockchain a bit heavier-solved by blockchain proof of service.

You can see Darkcoin is paving such new ground, it's light years ahead and won't be finished overnight.
306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 04, 2014, 05:32:26 AM
I spent a fair amount of time thinking about the discussion with dime, humanitee, luigi1111, camosoul and others yesterday about the anonymity of Darksend.  I suspected that the logic behind darksend as currently implemented was not sound, and I thought it would be best to determine how exactly darksend was working, and do an in-depth analysis of a mixing cycle and the transactions that follow mixing.

...

Best,
Sim

Wow! This is great. About 400+ pages ago I talked about having a different kind of pool for change outputs only. Put in all of your change outputs and you'll get new fresh clean inputs of 10DRK. The client could automatically do this after each darksend, which would also get you new inputs for the next round.

I'm currently embedded in patching stratum and p2pool to support the masternode payments, which is why I haven't been around. It takes a lot of work to make something so different from anything else out there, dare I say, revolutionary?


I like the idea of an automatic restructuring of  the change eduffield suggests here.  I think it would be a nice easy simple clean way of dealing with change addresses.  When mixed with other change addresses, to rebuild 10 coin blocks, nobody'd know where the change came from or went to.

I'm sorry, Simcom, but I don't see where Evan cancelled or re-scheduled or did anything to the plans of RC3 from this?

Anyway, I also wanted to say I think adding a blockchain node is an amazing idea!  People could run them right from their wallet, and it'd be a way for everyone to participate in "Proof of Service" without feeling the need to hold large amounts of coin.  I would guess that because more people would be able to provide this service, the payments wouldn't be that great, but it may well be worth it just to provide some storage space.  We still have to be sure it's worth while for people to mine though!  Mining makes the world go around (or in this case, makes the coin function!)  There is only so much coin produced.  The price of coin will really have to increase to make all this functional.... Not easy!

307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 03, 2014, 03:29:21 PM
Just thinking... as the blockchain will grow up forever, is it possible in the future that only the masternodes will have and keep it if we have more than 1-2000 of them?

don't understand the question, but masternodes get awarded a set number of coins from block rewards - not all the block rewards

Sorry for my English Wink
I was asking for the possibility in the future that not every user will need the blockchain on his machine. I was asking if it can be implemented in protocol that only masternodes will keep the blockchain.

Maybe someday "light wallet" may come out but it will lower the decentralized structure Smiley

Actually, we've been talking about this.  The beauty of this is that it wouldn't loose the decentralized structure if we have a great decentralized MasterNode network.  Unlike Bitcoin or other coins, having a lite wallet could become the norm, while also having the blockchain decentralized.  We can have our cake and eat it too with Darkcoin!!
308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 03, 2014, 10:02:04 AM
so, lots of stuff is happening, release of RC2 and not only do prices fall, but nobody is talking on the forums.  So then I realized, it's the end of the school year, and I'm wondering if most of the people here are in college and doing finals?  I spent the day helping my nephew with his final project (along with a bunch of other people, LOL, had fun) anyway, is that why everything is so weird here?

Also:
I'm still having issues starting my masternode with my balance in another wallet. I opened port 9999 to my computer, then I started darkcoind via ./darkcoind -masternodeaddr="server's ip address" then I unlocked my wallet for 300 seconds, and tried to start my masternode on my server via darkcoind masternode start "mypassphrase" and I get "not capable masternode" I even opened my server up to the whole internet, and it didn't help. Is this working for anyone else? Have I forgotten a step? Do I need to do anything from the server's end to reach the wallet with the coins?

 Thanks for any help

Do you have 1000 coins in address 0 ?

Should be address 0, in my local wallet.  Not in my server wallet.  I'm trying to keep the coins in my local wallet and hook it up to my server wallet to run.  It's supposed to work according to several people who've posted this past week.

Well, I was wrong, the address I had, I took from the QT wallet, with the first receiving address that came up.  Apparently that is not address 0.  I have sent my address 0 the coins, but it's too late to keep playing tonight, tomorrow is nephew's presentation Tongue

So Thank you very much for helping me.  Hopefully tomorrow night I can get my masternode back up and running again Smiley

G'nite ya'all!
309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 03, 2014, 09:34:19 AM
Will there be a new Mac wallet available before the hard fork. What happens if I still use the current wallet after this date?

There would need to be, yes.


Can i use my current windows wallet after may 14?

You must either use the RC2 wallet with or without darksend.  Without darksend, you can compile yourself.  The new wallet will enable a new mining payment system which changes fundimentals, so it requires a "hard fork".  Everyone must update to one or the other by May 14, or they will be on the wrong blockchain or else will not sync.
310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 03, 2014, 09:25:01 AM
so, lots of stuff is happening, release of RC2 and not only do prices fall, but nobody is talking on the forums.  So then I realized, it's the end of the school year, and I'm wondering if most of the people here are in college and doing finals?  I spent the day helping my nephew with his final project (along with a bunch of other people, LOL, had fun) anyway, is that why everything is so weird here?

Also:
I'm still having issues starting my masternode with my balance in another wallet. I opened port 9999 to my computer, then I started darkcoind via ./darkcoind -masternodeaddr="server's ip address" then I unlocked my wallet for 300 seconds, and tried to start my masternode on my server via darkcoind masternode start "mypassphrase" and I get "not capable masternode" I even opened my server up to the whole internet, and it didn't help. Is this working for anyone else? Have I forgotten a step? Do I need to do anything from the server's end to reach the wallet with the coins?

 Thanks for any help

Do you have 1000 coins in address 0 ?

Should be address 0, in my local wallet.  Not in my server wallet.  I'm trying to keep the coins in my local wallet and hook it up to my server wallet to run.  It's supposed to work according to several people who've posted this past week.
311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 03, 2014, 09:17:08 AM
so, lots of stuff is happening, release of RC2 and not only do prices fall, but nobody is talking on the forums.  So then I realized, it's the end of the school year, and I'm wondering if most of the people here are in college and doing finals?  I spent the day helping my nephew with his final project (along with a bunch of other people, LOL, had fun) anyway, is that why everything is so weird here?

Also:
I'm still having issues starting my masternode with my balance in another wallet. I opened port 9999 to my computer, then I started darkcoind via ./darkcoind -masternodeaddr="server's ip address" then I unlocked my wallet for 300 seconds, and tried to start my masternode on my server via darkcoind masternode start "mypassphrase" and I get "not capable masternode" I even opened my server up to the whole internet, and it didn't help. Is this working for anyone else? Have I forgotten a step? Do I need to do anything from the server's end to reach the wallet with the coins?

 Thanks for any help
312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 02, 2014, 05:33:09 PM
Price is dropping, but someone is definitely accumulating...
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?188207.htm

Address- XosXcEm3Y6Mv6tmBKd1rUWhqB9Pf1hABj7

It started accumulating darkcoins a week ago and now it already has 192,000 DRK !!!
That's a whopping 4.6% of all darkcoins in circulation!!!


Wouldn't be Bter would it?

most likely Btter

Who's that?
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 02, 2014, 05:28:18 PM
Price is dropping, but someone is definitely accumulating...
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?188207.htm

Address- XosXcEm3Y6Mv6tmBKd1rUWhqB9Pf1hABj7

It started accumulating darkcoins a week ago and now it already has 192,000 DRK !!!
That's a whopping 4.6% of all darkcoins in circulation!!!


Wow, and it's not you?  LOL.  I suspect that person won't be running masternodes, it's be too time consuming.  They just want to sell when it's high, I suspect Smiley

Just goes to show, you gotta have money to make money ;P

Actually, I know people who were successful in the old fashion way and those that were born into money, and they would never ever risk anything ever.  They'd rather lose money on the stock market than invest in a small start-up with talent.  They're stagnant.  So whomever is buying up dark, I doubt they got their money from being a lawyer, LOL.
314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 02, 2014, 04:37:48 PM
We were just contacted (again) by Wired.com, they're going to call this weekend to review quotes then the article is set to go out Monday!

advance notice to those that don't like the ccmf and moon thing.

expect the ccmf and the moon thing at some point.

Nicely done.  I honestly wish I could buy more  Cry
315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 02, 2014, 04:35:03 PM

university of Cyprus is offering a MOOC on cryptos, starts on the 15th of every month

What's a MOOC please?


Massive Open Online Course



Wow, universities taking us seriously!  That's awesome!
316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 02, 2014, 04:18:08 PM
We were just contacted (again) by Wired.com, they're going to call this weekend to review quotes then the article is set to go out Monday!

Oh my gosh, congrats to you and all of us!  Finally someone of note has taken notice!  I'm so happy (but jealous that I can't buy more, LOL)  Oh well, so goes it!

317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 02, 2014, 04:15:38 PM

university of Cyprus is offering a MOOC on cryptos, starts on the 15th of every month

What's a MOOC please?
318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 02, 2014, 03:51:03 PM
Damn! I need a "crypto trading 101" class or something. Can anyone reference any good reading on the subject?

It's so volatile, no way to know really.
319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 02, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
trustless

This word confuses most people, they hear it and draw exactly the wrong conclusion. If it's going to be used it needs a few words of explanation along with it.

+1

##

The problem is that "trustless" is the single most important aspect of what sets darkcoin apart from dark wallet, zerocoin, and all the other competitors.  You only use the language "first anonymous coin" and people say "bullshit".

Add another line: [link] What is trustless and why is this important? [/link] or something like that.  Write up a short ELI5 article that it points to.
Ugh, I'm going to fast, yes, exactly what you say here, a link is perfect!
320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 02, 2014, 03:43:04 PM

You are right, but sometimes the product is so good, it can sell itself. We just need to appeal to the early adopters, but keep an eye on the mid-term potential user.



Wow, amazing how all the "special effects" disappear over time.  More like it's maturing and is more self confident!  Amazing!
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