Really why do you guys think I took the bet?
Mostly just because you're mental. This is among the stupidest things I've seen on this forum, and that is really, REALLY saying something. |
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Correction: That's because he let Vandroiy manipulate him into a put-up-or-shut-up. Now that he knows he overstepped and can be right or wrong about the stability of his "business" and quite possibly lose, he's starting to wriggle on the line. First, he claimed he was giving to charity, when that was one of the mechanisms Vandroiy used to goad him into the bet. Then he acted buddy-buddy with Vandroiy as if this were a gentlemen's bet, when HE IS BETTING WITH AN ADVERSARY (you know, "more like guidelines") who libeled him all over the place in an effort to end his Ponzi "business". Now he's claiming the community is broken because, you know, this stuff can happen. While I won't say Vandroiy played this like a matador, he did pick and goad the right bull. Pirate saw red and charged right at the cape. Who knows when the bull will die, but the odds are very much not on its side. It remains to be seen if Vandroiy will get an ear or two.  Good luck with that. |
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All you're missing from that post is an "IMO"  At least you don't have any money to lose in all this, so more power to you for being smart enough not to make crazy bets with seemingly rich, mysterious strangers on the Internet  |
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This is a very weird development because taking this bet means Pirate is either: 1. Acting irrational 2. Running a Ponzi Say Pirate is not running a Ponzi scheme (the premise), then why would he lock up 5k BTC in an attempt to double it in 15 months while he could double it much faster by using it in his own operation? Care to explain Pirate? Are you (acting) irrational?  or 3. 5k is chump change for him and he's more than willing to put that out there in an effort to silence the trolls. I'd do exactly the same. He's obviously not interested in the money as when (sorry, if) he wins it's going to charity. This is win win for Pirate. Even if he is running a scam, all he has to do is drag it out until November 2013 and hey presto. A really stupid bet to make on Vandroiy's part, but oh well. A fool and his money etc etc. |
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bahaha!!! Vandroiy, I already thought you were a fool, but boy did you just confirm it. This whole thing pleases me greatly Did we decide which charity is getting Vandroiy's money? Also does this mean you'll stop your horrible trolling until the bet is settled? |
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Uh-huh. Aaaanyway, are we also to assume that by you making this bet you're going to give it a rest and stop trolling pirate going forward, along with whichever other cronies also join in?
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I hope you remember the day you let your emotions get the best of you.
Ready when you are.
Sure! How's this for the terms: Both I and you (Pirateat40) place 5000 BTC each into an escrow held by Nanotube. If after 2013-10-01, that's the first of October 2013, BS&T has not defaulted on payments, Pirateat40 gets the funds. In the case of a default, I (Vandroiy) get the funds. A default is identified by customers' funds being locked down for two consecutive weeks. Something among these lines? Perfect and I don't think you could have picked a better escrow. When your funds hit the escrow let me know. I'll add 3k BTC to this, same escrow, same terms (except Vandroiy = Blitz), so I can also "put my money where my mouth is". Agree? Time for popcorn, this is going to be interesting! Bahaha, brilliant Man, it's going to be a long wait until Oct 2013 for the hilarity. That's assuming Vandroiy actually comes through obviously. |
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I thought anyone could sign up. Apparently not. I should see if I have any invites EDIT: Yup, I do. Sweet |
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Now your lying about it being stickied in the first place? Sheesh dude.
Now your justifying your position with more speculation about the state of the industry to justify your stance against ***'s speculation?
Lastly, you have accused others of trolling threads when it was mere discussion, now your clearly abusing your mod status and actually trolling.
Bad form.
This forum is such a mess. |
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All those suckers using Bitcoin are going to be a laughing stock of the internet over this before long.
Unbelievable arrogance, even for vlad. Why is this guy, the single biggest detractor of bitcoin, tolerated here? Who knows, and who cares. Just put him on ignore. |
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Not trying to figure it out because I would do it, but just because these attacks seem to have become strangely programmatic and motivated in the last couple of days.
You know what I find amazing. Asking him flat out what he's doing and having him flat out say he won't say. And people are okay with this? For the millioneth time, what business is it of yours what other people do with their own money? You think people are crazy for investing, well whoopdedoo. Remind me why I should give a shit. Are you serious? I just explained why. Oh, you explained why you're qualified to speak for everyone else and decide for them how they should invest their own cash? Again, I couldn't care less what you do with your money, please extend the same courtesy to everyone else. I don't care what you or anyone else thinks. We're all grown ups here, we can make our own choices based on the available facts, thanks very much. If everyone would just mind their own business the trolling today would be almost non-existant. |
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Not trying to figure it out because I would do it, but just because these attacks seem to have become strangely programmatic and motivated in the last couple of days.
You know what I find amazing. Asking him flat out what he's doing and having him flat out say he won't say. And people are okay with this? For the millioneth time, what business is it of yours what other people do with their own money? You think people are crazy for investing, well whoopdedoo. Remind me why I should give a shit. |
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What I want to know is, what is motivating these super-aggressive naysayers? What do they stand to gain by scaring people away from pirate?
I think it's reasonable for people to warn of a potential ponzi, but some people have been super-aggressive about it lately (and suddenly), to the point of extreme rudeness.
Jealously? Spite? Who knows. Perhaps they're just horrible people, who hate seeing other people making money when they're too cautious to try it themselves. At the end of the day, who cares what they think. They're just trashing their own reputations by being generally horrible trolls. They may end up being right in the end, it's perfectly feasible, but the way they're going about it (and as you mention, their motives) is/are completely screwed. As I've been saying over and over, we're all adults here (well, not all perhaps) and what we choose to do with our own money is our own business. I for one don't need some random lecturing me about the risks. I know the risks, thanks very much. But as we're just hitting on now, this clearly isn't about them trying to be good people. They have their own motives. Forget them, not worth it. |
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I agree, everyone needs to calm down. Rolo is another thread calling people mouth breathers.
If the shoe fits... All these people harping on about pirate are the worst thing about the whole debacle. Perhaps they're right, perhaps not, but the words these people use and the sheer gall of the "I'm smart and you're stupid" attitude they all have is appalling. |
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You don't have a shred of evidence or even an idea of what I do.
Um, I think this is the problem. So stay away, don't trust me. There is nothing else I can tell you. Exactly. All you whingers who don't want to invest. Don't. It's really as simple as that. Yes, don't ask questions. Just take your cut! Hurry now, time is limited. lol. wow. Crying Ponzi over and over and over and over really helps though. |
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You don't have a shred of evidence or even an idea of what I do.
Um, I think this is the problem. So stay away, don't trust me. There is nothing else I can tell you. Exactly. All you whingers who don't want to invest. Don't. It's really as simple as that. oh we don't invest, that is not a problem at all. So shut the hell up and stop bothering people who do. |
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You don't have a shred of evidence or even an idea of what I do.
Um, I think this is the problem. So stay away, don't trust me. There is nothing else I can tell you. Exactly. All you whingers who don't want to invest. Don't. It's really as simple as that. |
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Vandroiy has made a post all in bold! He has convinced himself he's right yet again and he clearly knows much better than all of us!
Look, all you wannabee crusaders. We're all adults here. What I choose to do with my own money is my own business. I don't have anything invested I can't afford to lose. It's lovely of you to be so concerned, but please, give it a rest. I'll make up my own mind thanks very much.
Could we potentially lose all our coins? Yes.
Could Bitcoin randomly drop to almost nothing tomorrow due to [insert reason here]? Yes.
Could I get hit by a bus tomorrow and all this would have been pointless? Yes.
Just..... relax. If you don't have money invested, lovely. Good for you. If you do have money invested, lovey. Good for you.
Just stop thinking you know better than everyone else and let people make their own decisions.
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