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3001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] INFINITECOIN - UPDATE TO 1.8.8 visit INFINITECOIN.COM on: December 17, 2017, 09:01:29 PM
always like this one but sold most of mine now...

would be good to see it make a comeback though

any dev team remaining?

how to twist cryptopia to put it back up online?
3002  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which ALTS are the NEXT BIG THING? Add your Valid suggestion here now >>>>> POLL on: December 17, 2017, 08:46:38 PM
I'm fully sure that NEM is the next big game changer. They have a very good expansion strategy, strong support and community, many events, releases and so on.

NEM - yes for sure that could be a real project.

Can someone comment on the 4 key areas to get this listed in the poll?



edit that is already a big thing inside the top 10 already
3003  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Cardano is highly undervalued right now on: December 17, 2017, 08:43:05 PM
I completely agree - this is one of the best projects Ive seen. Especially since these guys are like a university staff.

lol what more do we need to know?? a bunch of semi egg heads

who is to say that one person with 30iq points higher than them all can render them all redundant even if their team was 1000 strong.

Who is to say we need more tech crammed in

Why not distribute the strain instead of trying to cram it all on one project under one set of masters.

BTC the store of wealth

10-20 100 other alts to spread the tx and specific use cases.

Seems tech bamboozlement is the key to  getting everyone on the train. Thing is 99.99999% of the passengers have no clue what is powering it.

Just wait soon there will be another new latest and greatest tech... been the same since I;ve been here.

we need this tech because whats going on right now is not good enough..
and we need the ph.d people because research and universities it what drives the world.. you can say now "who needs them" but you needed them to send people to space, didnt you?
could you send people to space without them?
sending people to space = human research
cardano blockchain = research too
you dont know how far it can take you, but making it step by step peer reviewed making it strong for the future
unlike many projects that can not really scale

But wait if it is not trustless and decentralised from the start what use is it.

Perhaps it needs its own catergory you see and be kept away from trustless decentralised currencies?

Put it with the other insta ico schemes that can now never be trustless either.

I hope you are not comparing it with other projects that are trustless and decentralised which you claim do not work.

Perhaps distributed is better than 1 project does it all ?

I am not here to argue about the tech.

So bring the argument back to what I really want to focus on.

The initial distribution looks terrible compared to real decentralised trustless cc

So now we have to trust a bunch of a few whales dont control the entire market and will colllude and market make for months year forever.

3004  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cardano will be a lot bigger on: December 17, 2017, 08:36:55 PM
How much cardano spam can we endure now.

It looks to have a terrible initial distribution which probably means it is totally bogus colluded market cap

it has initial distribution just as it should be in investments world
anyway, there are so many ICO's that have only few big buyers and you dont even know about it.. even if the ICO was "decentralized"

dont be negative, cardano is one of the best projects out there
and if bitcoincash bitcoingold LTC have such a big marketcap, there is no reason for ada not to have it..=]

LOL - are you high.

This is a trustless decentralised evironment we are meant to be creating.

This give to a few whales collusion and market making shit is for elsewhere.

I am starting to turn negative on this project the more i read about it.

What part of fake caps are scams and inevitable on narrow distributions like these.

Collusion and market making are the reason it has billions cap.

hahah ok good luck thx for your opinion =]
maybe go read the technical part instead of your theories

bla bla bla techno blathering - there will be the next big techno unmissable btc upgrade blathering along shortly...

that is entirely irrelevant to the clear point I am making.

Try and read again it is not opinion it is clearly an observable fact.


1. if you distribute too narrowly it leaves it open to collusion and market making.

now try to read it again and have another try.

You need to have things widely distributed so that there is no collusion and market making.



ok dont invest in ADA then..
i dont agree with you..
this widely distributed sounds cool, but most of the ICO tokens are not widely distributed like you wish it to be
at least here everything is clear to investors =]

It's not something that is to be agreed on by you.

It is a fact.

You may not agree that 2+2 = 4

Your agreement is not needed it is simply an accepted and observable fact.

The same with narrow distribution making it very open to collusion and market making.

There is no agreement from your required it is simply an inescapable fact.

3005  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is IOTA a cryptocurrency? on: December 17, 2017, 08:33:57 PM
Iota is both a currency and a platform.. Yes its centralised because it still has the coordinator. Once the coordinator has been removed and the platform is stable. It will be decentralised.

once upon a time
3006  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big Day for Ripple (XRP) tomorrow? on: December 17, 2017, 08:33:00 PM
forget this scam coin
3007  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Cardano is highly undervalued right now on: December 17, 2017, 08:30:19 PM
I completely agree - this is one of the best projects Ive seen. Especially since these guys are like a university staff.

lol what more do we need to know?? a bunch of semi egg heads

who is to say that one person with 30iq points higher than them all can render them all redundant even if their team was 1000 strong.

Who is to say we need more tech crammed in

Why not distribute the strain instead of trying to cram it all on one project under one set of masters.

BTC the store of wealth

10-20 100 other alts to spread the tx and specific use cases.

Seems tech bamboozlement is the key to  getting everyone on the train. Thing is 99.99999% of the passengers have no clue what is powering it.

Just wait soon there will be another new latest and greatest tech... been the same since I;ve been here.
3008  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Cardano is highly undervalued right now on: December 17, 2017, 08:26:27 PM
Kidding? I think Cardano is the most overvalued coin right now, no coin worths $10B when it has just started. It will dump, it is inevitable.

do you also see many coins in ATM's ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2599762

do you see projects that help runtime verification build their blockchain virtual machine?
https://runtimeverification.com/blog/?p=498  

do you see projects that have 10 ph.d researchers in the team and 40 developers?
iohk.io/team

do you see projects that sponsoring blockchain research?
http://www.longfinance.net/programmes/distributed-futures-menu/df-sponsors.html

i have many reasons to find why cardano is just better than many coins in the top
especially stupid useless forks

conclusion: yes Cardano is overvalued - but clearly not the most overvalued coin right now
did you see bitcoin gold?
do you know how much effort and thought people put in cardano and how much in bitcoin gold/cash ?

the big buy is just because some people can see that and some can not..


all of that is of little meaning if they distributed so narrowly to collude and market make a huge false cap.

it is quite possibly a good coin but it should have not been distributed like this

also do we need all of this tech??? who cares about all this smart contract stuff and making my bed for me.

Do we need one coin to do everything...

What if we have BTC as a storage of wealth

then a few different dominant alts to spread the tx load???

what more do you need from a CC?

there is room for more projects but zero to hero projects are often scams and schemes.

I would like to see the full details of this distribution and the reasons they did it that way. Seems open to GROSS collusion and market making to me

3009  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Cardano is highly undervalued right now on: December 17, 2017, 07:53:22 PM
looks like it had terrible initial distribution...

probably market collusion false high cap
3010  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PURA = PURE SCAM - keep this bumped to the front page AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE on: December 17, 2017, 06:44:11 PM
exactly these projects give crypto a bad name
3011  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cardano will be a lot bigger on: December 17, 2017, 06:02:13 PM
How much cardano spam can we endure now.

It looks to have a terrible initial distribution which probably means it is totally bogus colluded market cap

it has initial distribution just as it should be in investments world
anyway, there are so many ICO's that have only few big buyers and you dont even know about it.. even if the ICO was "decentralized"

dont be negative, cardano is one of the best projects out there
and if bitcoincash bitcoingold LTC have such a big marketcap, there is no reason for ada not to have it..=]

LOL - are you high.

This is a trustless decentralised evironment we are meant to be creating.

This give to a few whales collusion and market making shit is for elsewhere.

I am starting to turn negative on this project the more i read about it.

What part of fake caps are scams and inevitable on narrow distributions like these.

Collusion and market making are the reason it has billions cap.

hahah ok good luck thx for your opinion =]
maybe go read the technical part instead of your theories

bla bla bla techno blathering - there will be the next big techno unmissable btc upgrade blathering along shortly...

that is entirely irrelevant to the clear point I am making.

Try and read again it is not opinion it is clearly an observable fact.


1. if you distribute too narrowly it leaves it open to collusion and market making.

now try to read it again and have another try.

You need to have things widely distributed so that there is no collusion and market making.

3012  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cardano will be a lot bigger on: December 17, 2017, 05:56:28 PM
How much cardano spam can we endure now.

It looks to have a terrible initial distribution which probably means it is totally bogus colluded market cap

it has initial distribution just as it should be in investments world
anyway, there are so many ICO's that have only few big buyers and you dont even know about it.. even if the ICO was "decentralized"

dont be negative, cardano is one of the best projects out there
and if bitcoincash bitcoingold LTC have such a big marketcap, there is no reason for ada not to have it..=]

LOL - are you high.

This is a trustless decentralised evironment we are meant to be creating.

This give to a few whales collusion and market making shit is for elsewhere.

I am starting to turn negative on this project the more i read about it.

What part of fake caps are scams and inevitable on narrow distributions like these.

Collusion and market making are the reason it has billions cap.
3013  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Cardano/ADA coin’s launch on Bittrex represents what I detest about cryptos on: December 17, 2017, 05:53:27 PM
I really appreciate threads like these because they fairly express feelings without trying to be hostile. The reality is that Cardano has been an ongoing project since mid-2015 in one capacity or another and only recently did the initial participants have a chance to exercise liquidity. The price didn't suddenly go up exponentially due to a big pump rather it was a reflection that two years of progress have occurred from setting up research centers to developing the core client since the last price signal.

Finally there original market was scoped to Asia and now a much larger set of people are considering Cardano. It's reasonable to assume a dramatic shift and lots of volatility.



Why so many coins?
It's their strategy actually. But which one do you think more like viewable 3 ADA or 0.0003 ADA? I think the first one. More coins with less price that is marketcap which is very important when trading and not only total number of coins. Cardanao fits perfectly in that category.
If I still do not think up over there if I apapaun the strategies he used it doesn't matter as long as it is indeed for the good or let his coin prices rise not crucial not to harm one another only


all coins are playing this game....

because they know a lot of noobs dont get that cheap per unit tokens dont understand the project is very expensive and not a good deal.
3014  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: QTUM on: December 17, 2017, 05:52:02 PM
scam project dump it
3015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PURA = PURE SCAM - keep this bumped to the front page AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE on: December 17, 2017, 05:51:28 PM
I'm hearing this for the first time, is there a proof of this, but don't you think the coin entering TOP 100 is a great thing for those holding the coin prior to the pump


Of course it is a great thing for the scammers that kept all the pura and gave it all to themselves because the icash bunch were not given opportunity to swap.

Imagine i copy and paste a masternode clone and give a 1 second chance on slack only by invite swap from another coin.

Oh whoops nobody swapped I will keep all the tokens. Then I list it on some shit exchange and sell a few to myself for enough to give a false cap generated by coin market crap to put it in the top 100 and then when all the people that dont do any research and notice it and start buying these coins from me i can just copy and paste button 100M dollars then dump the project.


Yeah great news for those that hold the coins. That would be me only though .

They used icash as a excuse to give the coins to themselves.

3016  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cardano will be a lot bigger on: December 17, 2017, 05:43:11 PM
How much cardano spam can we endure now.

It looks to have a terrible initial distribution which probably means it is totally bogus colluded market cap
3017  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which ALTS are the NEXT BIG THING? Add your Valid suggestion here now >>>>> POLL on: December 17, 2017, 05:42:04 PM
Indeed but not a fraction of the gains it should be having against most of these other joker projects in the top 100.
3018  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase are not going to add any ICO coins which ALTS will they add? on: December 17, 2017, 05:39:13 PM
I'm hoping that coinbase will focus on the top 10 ... I'd like to see Monero, Ripple, Dash, and maybe it's time to start considering Bitcoin Cash.

I'd really like to see coinbase expand. 

I can only hope that you are high on crack.

Dash = proven scam
xrp = another centralised piece of shit


please comment again when you come down and can talk sensibly
3019  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / PURA = PURE SCAM - keep this bumped to the front page AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE on: December 17, 2017, 05:35:16 PM
Look at this new turd

They did a sneaky swap from icash that they kept quiet and most missed it so they could keep all the coins for themselves and collude this shit into the top 100


3020  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [COVAL] Circuits Of Value - Tokenize everything [LOYYAL] on: December 17, 2017, 04:48:49 PM
did someone just try to buy 20M of these or was just a publicity stunt?

Come on who has that much to throw at this?
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