Even though the nature of man was somewhat woven into parts of our more than 50 scattered pages of discussion of such topics, nature of man was NOT really the essence of the side track... if we should call it a side track....   I think that we were mostly focused around the extent to which government is necessary in a future society which hinged upon questions regarding whether government served any meaningful purpose that would justify receiving taxes whether voluntarily or by force.  Surely, some posters were weaving in other topics as well and even deviating from the deviation... and possibly even I was guilty of such..... especially when from time to time my own human nature was put into question... ... .......... It's all good, no? 

Define, soon. week?  two weeks?  month?  and will it parallel BTC or break from BTC.. .that makes a difference, no?

I am thinking that if LTC goes to $50 within the next month or two and breaks somewhat with BTC to anywhere in the .07 to .1 territory, then I will sell my LTC holdings at that point... unless there is some breaking news that changes the fundamentals of LTC as compared with BTC in some kind of way.   

I agree with you.

Yet, another point about having $1,200 coins is NOT any problem with the person but a problem with their investment strategy.

Several times, I have mentioned that I started investing in BTC at right around $1200, but certainly, I recognized the extreme bull run at that particular moment... and who the fuck knew whether it would stop, at that time.  Anyhow, I was scared to go in too heavily, so even though at that moment, I had about $20,000 to invest into BTC.  I started out by only investing $1,500, and then continuing my investment thereafter with a form of dollar cost averaging.

Anyhow, my point is that at the $1,200 price point, the market did NOT seem to suggest that balls to the wall investment strategy would have been good at $1,200... but still, even then, there were enough BTC fundamentals that BTC could have gone to $2,000 or even $5,000 and rested there for a while......

I guess part of my point is that an investor can get really rich or poor from an ALL IN approach... but, surely I remain of the thinking that I am too chicken shit for that... unless, I have some kind of insider information... ...

KS:   I like the way you nail the sentiment in your line of thought b/c the reality of the matter is that there is NO real good reason for anyone to come to this thread (or any other BTC thread) and to brag about some kind of superficial "I told you so" prediction - whether the guy is correct or NOT. 

IN this regard, there are BTC and alt coin predictions all over the place, and some of them are going to be spot on, others are going to be in the ballpark and others are going to be way the fuck out in never, never land.  Whatever, the outcome of a prediction, NONE of us really appreciate any I told you so tone, unless such tone is woven into some kind of attempt at more meaningful discussion.

I LIKE  that theory.... a good way to camouflage stolen BTC woudl be to dilute them into various investment vehicles.

Gotta put the ruble in there, no?  Especially with all the world events... and also LTC... ... and Doge (just kidding)...

OH my gosh.. Adam...   Are you becoming less bullish?  YOU are suggesting that we are going to want to sell BTC in 2015, and NOT hoard BTC into eternity in order to maximize the BTC climactical effect?

Therefore for an additional price rise, the LTC market is going to need more "idiots."    hehehe... surely, that is possible... and especially possible b/c there continues to be quite a bit of hype in the crypto currency space that more and more people are just learning about.. especially heard about this since November 2013... and then when the crypto prices begin to grow again, everyone will want IN.

I appreciate when people (or bots - NOT that you are a bot) are fairly specific and committal about their predictions... That is definitely a step in the right direction.  The next step is to explain how they arrive at that prediction... what are the various factors that cause you to predict... and how did you arrive at such specificity...   Surely, no matter what the prediction (especially about the future... hehehe) there is going to be a certain margin of error that would be anticipated for it to be reasonably relied upon.

Define explodes.   LTC at $25?  $40?  $100?  $1000? and when?  day, week, month, 6 months, 6 years?

Personally, I doubt LTC will grow much beyond BTC... maybe we will get to .1BTC... but otherwise somewhat parallel to BTC... and probably losing value over time to other alts...

A little more than substance and fundamentals than mere "hoping"... but that is the general idea.... anticipation of a likely future result.. somewhere between 1 day(which seems pretty unlikely at the moment) to 2 month (which seems pretty likely and NOT likely to have to wait a whole 2 months) return to prices greater than $685. 

Thereafter, likely, this year we are going to have another ATH... summer-ish is anticipated.... but may take a little longer...   

Good luck in your future endeavors outside of BTC.... b/c this train, ship, rocket, dinosaur, is leaving  the station soon...

First: BTC is NOT bleeding in the streets... far from it.. BTC is thriving... if you look beyond the last three months... and the uptrend is likley to continue.

Second:  Sounds as if you are spreading this FUD about ponzi scheme... as if the first investors are running off - as if that were some common theme.  So what if some people are cashing out and so what if some people got in earlier than others... current investors have to consider the continued upside potential rather than being obsessed that some people may have made more money than they made...

IS that you? 


Also: That "bull" does NOT appear to have the proper bull equipment.

He begins to build some credibility by contributing information in various respects, then all of a sudden comes out with these lame assertions... like conspiracy theory that take a very large stretch of credulity to fathom their even possibility.  Accordingly, it seems that these kinds of stretches of credulity undermine the previously built Jorge brand.

I struggle to comprehend - why you want to stretch logic to attempt to see a zebra in a herd of horses.... and zebras are a rarity. 

Learning from mistakes.... YES... .Hopefully we can all accomplish such, at some point.


I believe that it can be fairly tempting and easy to make BTC trading mistakes - b/c we begin to see a pattern of ups and downs in the BTC price and by the time we think we have the pattern figured out, a whale manipulates in one direction or another - that kind of manipulation can be totally outside of predictability (especially for non-sophisticated traders) b/c the whale or fairly small group is deciding in their own head(s) exactly when to push in one direction or another   - and actually the push could go either way.. but they decide based on their ability to put up walls.

If I had NOT made a few of these kinds of attempted pattern recognition trading mistakes, my average BTC buy-in price would have been in the $650 range rather than its current $685 range.   

The temptation remains, though, b/c it remains very attractive, if an investor could predict a 10 or 20% downtrend with certainty, then his average buy in price could be reduced by a similar percentage is he were to go balls to the walls into such a prediction.... Usually, I am too scared (or possibly too inexperienced in that kind of methodology) to be a balls to the walls kind of investor.

Why do you ask me what it means, when you cite my previous post without its context.  It seems that the context shows what the statement means...

So one more time, just in case you were NOT trolling me:  If an investor has a BTC buy-in investment price at $685, then that investor is in the red when the current BTC price is below $685 and in the black when the current BTC price is above $685... The rest of the meaning of my statement is merely my speculating and/or hoping concerning when the price will return above $685... Hopefully, that explanation helps you to understand my earlier intended communication.

WE are considering this downward BTC price similarly, me thinks..... At this point, my next buy point would be at $590 or below. if the price gets there and stays there long enough for me to pull the trigger.  In spite of some of this recent discussion about the lack of fiat on the seeable books, I continue to have my doubts about getting to those below $590 levels for any sustained length of time - even though i have been surprised before.