mtgox could open an account with us, but not to store their user's funds. to store their own funds would be OK. [/quote] From a bank point of view there is no difference whatsoever!
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Do people who use VOIP phones who do not care that their conversation is in packets sharing the net with the emailers and web surfers harm the internet? The Internet is a medium. You must look for a business they harm, not medium. They don't harm the Internet, but do harm telcos/telecoms!
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Obviously every great leap forward has the potential to encounter a wall with steel spikes on it. This is most likely what will happen. Don't be overexcited and act with extreme care, David. Fiat money world and bitcoin by definition just can't peacefully coexist and be legally 'interfaced' in current regulatory environment. Credit Mutuel have started a dangerous game and I'm afraid the role of bitcoin-central in this game is the role of a scape goat. Nevertheless, it is a major development in the bitcoin world. You did it. Congrats!
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but the user is prompted with an option of sweeping the funds when they do it. Like when they go to import the key it will show a message like "If someone else had this private key before you, your funds may be stolen. You can eliminate this risk by transferring the funds into your other secure addresses. Would you like to sweep the funds into another account?". This is good. May be instead of 'your other secure addresses' this warning should read 'your organic addresses'? Just mark addresses to imported and organic with proper warning if imported addresses are attempted to be used as payment receipt or request payment addresses.
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I'd rather vote for both import / export private key functionality under 'Advanced' menu option, reading something like 'Do only if you know exactly what you're doing!'. And may be some special marking of the imported keys to be visibly distinct to those generated by current wallet.
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It should be still written as bitcoin (the Malay language uses the alphabet too). Okay, in Malayan bitcoin is the same as in Latin. Do not forget Farsi! Be warned, this can cause loads of drama: I know. How is it written in Farsi? Don't be shy!
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I suppose it should be still called as bitcoin in the Malay/Indonesian language I'm not interested so much in how it is called, but how it is written? How it is written in بهاس ملايو ?
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This is what we have so far:
Latin: bitcoin Japanese: ビットコイン Chinese: 比特币 Hebrew: ביטקוין Cyrillic: биткойн Hindi, Marathi: बिटकॉइन Arabic: بتكوين Greek: μπίτκοϊν
There are a lot more alphabet sets actively used on this Planet. What else?
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With today's young and very experimental bitcoin software, if you wanted to try really hard, and pick the worst thing to do to Bitcoin, it would be to try and get bitcoin involved in Iran money laundering, North Korea money laundering, Taliban or jihadi terrorist funding. But you can't prevent it either, so your explanation doesn't make sense. It's an OSS and everyone can use it as they wish. Including US and UK government agencies currently laundering money for the terrorists in Syria as they did it before with the terrorists in Libya. My point is, be responsible as a bitcoin coredev and don't demonstrate your political preferences in such a rude manner when other people in the dev channel are just doing their regular job i.e. asking for help to translate bitcoin client to different languages! If I could I'd have banned you from the coredev group.
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Does that make me a coward in some people's eyes?
No, it is just empty words. Baloney. What stuff do you smoke, thoughtfan?
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I'm not asking you to agree - just to accept that an opinion other than yours might just have some validity. Despite so many words you've written above, I don't understand your point. Do you support the US embargo on Iran or you don't? There is no 'governmentS' that apply embargoes. There is only one government. Other governments have to decide if they'll side with the bullying government or with the victim government. Don't forget the official US policy - 'If you are not with us, you are against us'. It is a risky business not to side with the bully as this government alone is spending 50% of the entire military budget of this Planet. Hillary Clinton said on September 13, 2001: "Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price." President George W. Bush, in an address to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001 said, "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." Nothing has changed in that respect so far. It is true that there are groups with different agendas regarding bitcoin, but as someone has mentioned in this thread, timing is everything. So, the most important thing is who is the 'timing' manager? Who is trying to manage bitcoin target groups and extend of market penetration in the different regions? After this episode I'm more inclined to suggest that this effectively is the US government. Once the bitcoin avalanche starts nothing can be managed. But before the start, one can decide where will be the starting point and when? The bitcoin community should not allow such a manipulation to take place. Laissez-faire and no country should be excluded by someone behind the scene! I understand that sometime people get irritated and jumpy for variety of different reasons and pissed off by their girlfriend, wife, children, friends, colleagues, or just accidental meeting with a stranger. But after that they must be strong enough to overcome their ego and apologize to somebody they have unwillingly insulted. Lets hope for the best but be prepared for the worst!
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but utilising every opportunity to get stronger on the journey to the foot of the mountain is I think the wiser option. No, you are not getting stronger by effectively supporting US sanctions on Iran! You are losing fans, thoughtfan! In record numbers! Fans not only from Iran and neighboring countries, but from the entire free world where people can still decide not to join illegal 'legal activities' like economic sanction on other nations. Apparently, in the US the FOX, CNN, and Hollywood style propaganda is very effective?
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He doesn't oppose such a translation. Anyone who thinks he does has failed to properly read the situation. Reading this situation is quite simple... "Oh please, please leave me alone. I don't want any politics involved. I just want to play with my coding ideas. No politics, please. Please!" I'm sorry, mate. Four years and you still don't get it! We are just about to start climbing the Big Bitcoin Political Mountain in front of us. This is unavoidable, just expect more of it if bitcoin succeeds. You have to step on a sound ideological foundation to fight all political winds. Don't ask me which one. I don't know. I'm still searching. What I do know, however, is that you have to have quite a mess in your head to support US economic sanctions against Iran or any other country. With such a mess in your head bitcoin is just not for you. Certainly you should not put your name behind bitcoin because other people get scared from your political immaturity. If jgarzik tries asap to personally organaize translation to Farsi, I shall personally ask him to accept my apology.
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fom what's there it looks like jeramias went there specifically in order to solicit support for his promotion of Bitcoin in Iran. Why is it a bad thing to do?
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that could be used in the form of a "sound bite" to cast a bad light on the project as a whole. Not the translation to Farsi, but what jgarzik did (opposing such a translation) is casting a bad light on the project! Why can't you understand that?
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To find out who is the target of the sanctions the first step is to actually read the official documentation regarding the sanctions rather than make assumptions about the sanctions and then act on those assumptions to hurt innocent people. Actually, ArticMine, reading too much government documentation regarding sanctions on other nations is dangerous for your mental health. Take care!
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I have a question: what would happen if a iran guy in iran make a new bitcoin client and we download and use it? US drone will bomb us? We are terrorists?
The cynic in me is inclined to say that if the US government thought it had the potential to totally fuck the Iranian economy they'd probably fund it under the table. Well, what you are basically saying is that Americans using bitcoin are totally fucking the American economy? Errr I thought that using honest money like gold, silver and bicoin is useful for every economy, not harmful?! May be you should make a distinction between fucking an economy and fucking a government?
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You don't understand what you are talking about. I know, I know. You don't know that the Gopher protocol presented an alternative to the World Wide Web in its early stages, but I'm the one that doesn't understand how the Internet is working, huh?
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None. CERN website is true but still your statement is false and misleading... In what way my statements are false? If the Internet and the WWW are 'very, very, very, very, very, very' different, which one do you use to write on this forum? When was the last time you used gopher which is part of the Internet but is not part of the WWW?
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This is not completely false... What statements are false on the CERN website? Mod, this is not off topic! Some people here are trying to convince me that the US Federal Government has the right to bully people that use 'their' property, the Internet (aka WWW).
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