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3021  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 06, 2014, 02:54:39 AM
Start with post 1373. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1360 DirectBet has been doing this for 4 months. I know that I should be the bigger man but he's expanded his attacks to numerous threads.

This is what posters say about him
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My Gawd.

Just shut the fuck up, Direct Bet. You are embarrassing yourself. Go jack off on Skype or do something else that might help keep your dignity.
3022  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 06, 2014, 02:39:57 AM
Peeps, some of the other books you mention that "ran off" with the BTC just seemed a lot more sketchy to me.  Did they all have customer service like Directbet, where they are always responding quickly to any issues?  And they are upfront about their rules, etc.  The only complaint I've had is how sometimes betting options disappear depending on the status of the game.  And sometimes the "no deposits" thing is a little annoying, but it's safer IMHO.  
Bitbook, Bit365, Coinbet, Blockbet and Bitcoinlivebets all had good customer support with quick replies until near the end. Coinbet was the only one that I felt was too abrasive towards their customers. Some of the books have now gone to live support and answer immediately.

If you have opinions on other books currently in business, please post them here or at the ratings guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 so that I can see as many opinions as possible. Thanks
3023  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 06, 2014, 02:36:16 AM
Bosmarie- Why do you think they deserve a high rating? I'd like to hear what all posters say about all the books.
3024  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 06, 2014, 02:00:27 AM
DirectBet- What are the rules for a change of venue at DirectBet?
3025  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 06, 2014, 01:49:06 AM
I don't work for any book. The 3 day rule is a general rule that is used but not sports specific. Since you want to pick on Anonibet, they target the European market and have better live offerings in both tennis and soccer than you do. They have the best among all bitcoin books and are starting to make their move into American markets. I'd expect a rule change. Their live offerings and props are reasons for their top rating.

If you want to target the baseball market, then you should be using the standard baseball rules. Note to those that arb. You may get burned using books with conflicting sports book rules.
3026  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 06, 2014, 01:06:40 AM
DirectBet
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No, this is the standard default rule across our Sportsbook and we do not plan to change it.


Did you have any prior gambling experience prior to opening? You think that other books hold bets for 3 days in baseball? Rules from other books:

predictem
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Baseball betting rules are pretty standard both in Las Vegas and offshore............Official Game: A baseball (side) bet becomes official for betting purposes after 5 innings of play or 4.5 innings if the home team has the lead. Should a game be suspended, the winning side is determined by the score after the last full inning

BetUS
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If a game is 'called', or suspended, winners and losers for betting are official after at least 5 full innings of play unless the home team is leading after 4½ innings. If a game is 'called', or suspended etc, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning (unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called). Please note that suspended games do not carry over for wagering purposes.

TheGreek
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If a game is cancelled or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning (unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called).

BetUSA
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Major League Baseball games are official after 5 innings of play, or 4½ innings if the home team is leading.  If a game is subsequently called or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning unless the home team ties the score or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning in which the game was suspended.

BetMania
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If a game is annulled or postponed, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning that is unless the home team scores to a run to tie the game, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning. In this case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called official.

Bookmaker
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Winners and Losers are official after 5 innings of play unless the home team is leading after 4½ innings. If a game is called or suspended, the score after the last full inning determines the winner.

Lasvegassportsbetting
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Baseball
A baseball game becomes official for moneyline wagering purposes after 4 1/2 innings if home team is winning, or 5 innings if visiting team is winning.
If a game is cancelled or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning (unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called).
3027  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 05, 2014, 11:57:01 PM
El Grego asked this question if anyone wants to answer
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Are there any bitcoin books that have NCAAFB props? I'm specifically looking for teams total wins O/U.
3028  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 11:45:24 PM

I understand that some of the problems with bets being held aren't your fault most of the time even if unfair to the player, but there are many mistakes in the rules that you may want to change.

DirectBet rules
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If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed and an official result is not declared within three days of the scheduled start date, all bets will be void, except for those which have been unconditionally determined.


Look at MLB official rule book, rule 4.12
It is possible for games to begin, be suspended and resumed at a later date (all stats remain).
For wagering purposes all bets are settled the same. Vegas and offshore all settle same day.

I'd love to get back to Vegas.
Not even to gamble, just go with a few buddies and not have to deal with clients or work for a week or so.
What a dream...
I love it there. I spend a lot of the NFL season and all of March Madness in Vegas. The lines are better for my way of betting.
3029  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 11:38:48 PM
DirectBet- Do you plan on changing the 3 day rule for American sports? This is book making 101. It's mind boggling that a bookmaker is confused by simple rules. You don't just throw up a site without understanding gambling and make it in this business.
3030  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 05, 2014, 10:10:01 PM
New site http://finalstake.com/. Very small site that is only taking NFL parlays at this time.
3031  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 05, 2014, 09:10:40 PM
Has anyone played with the NR books? It's time for some initial ratings.

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake
3032  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 04:15:21 PM
I don't know how you can totally hate on or bash Directbet frankly...see they don't even have deposits there so if they "closed down" they wouldn't be "running away with bitcoin" like so many others have.  
I could be wrong but it's my feeling that they will run with the money during the Super Bowl. Players will have a lot of money tied up in props and live wagering. Bitcoinlivebets did it after the World Cup. The link in my signature talks about books running after the World Cup and Super Bowl.

As far as a rating, do you thing it's justifiable for DirectBet to have a high rating? Input is needed for all of the books. I never bash a person's opinion as long as they don't throw out false allegations. Thanks
3033  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 03:56:37 PM
DirectBet rules
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If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed and an official result is not declared within three days of the scheduled start date, all bets will be void, except for those which have been unconditionally determined.


That's not a mistake. Our standard rule for all bets is 3 days. If however we receive confirmation earlier that the match will not be resumed \ replayed we will void bets and issue refunds to our clients immediately.

 Single game bets do not carry over in baseball during the regular season. You can't hold the money 3 days. No one else does.

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............If a game is called or suspended after 5 innings, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning of play ...........
http://www.5dimes.eu/sb_rules.html
3034  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
Hey guys, I think we finally figured out the mysterious criteria Peeps Place is using to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks.

Rating is based on the monthly payment he is receiving from the books :


A lot
Bitcoin or two
Change at most
Don't Pay
Failed to pay and now it's too late !  Wink


That makes sense. Looking at Peeps posts, it's like he's also getting paid to bash books that don't pay.

Like their lines or not, DirectBet is the best for live betting. No other book that offers all the betting options they do... sometimes the odds are not great but I've gotten a couple good ones before.
Please post the books that I bash. The books that I've bashed have all gone under. The only book that I currently bash is DirectBet. If you question the ratings, then it's appreciated why they are questioned. Poster input warrants changes and I take all input seriously. Do you feel any changes should be made?

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F


NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
3035  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 03:52:06 PM

I understand that some of the problems with bets being held aren't your fault most of the time even if unfair to the player, but there are many mistakes in the rules that you may want to change.

DirectBet rules
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If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed and an official result is not declared within three days of the scheduled start date, all bets will be void, except for those which have been unconditionally determined.


Look at MLB official rule book, rule 4.12
It is possible for games to begin, be suspended and resumed at a later date (all stats remain).
For wagering purposes all bets are settled the same day. Vegas and offshore all settle same day.
3036  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 03:24:20 AM
We don't criticize good books. We've done a good job at calling out scam books. Those called out go under. DirectBet has been predicted to be the next in line to go under. Here are quotes for those that went under.

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The only thing keeping StakeBTC from being a "F", because of that bonus, is that they haven't had one complaint as far as payouts.

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I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.

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I'm not going to put Coinbet on our recommended list at this time.

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BitBook C (Problems from DDoS attack. Do not deposit at this time

The only reason that I'm posting here is for the constant stalking done by DirectBet. He's been in EVERY thread that I post.
3037  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 05, 2014, 02:47:04 AM
Here are some things in our thread for books that have gone under. It's not good for the bitcoin community and in no way do I want this to happen, but DirectBet is the next book predicted to go under. There are many reasons and if anyone wants I can post them.

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The only thing keeping StakeBTC from being a "F", because of that bonus, is that they haven't had one complaint as far as payouts.

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I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.

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I'm not going to put Coinbet on our recommended list at this time.

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BitBook C (Problems from DDoS attack. Do not deposit at this time

3038  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 05, 2014, 02:31:35 AM
The ratings in the rating guide may not be perfect but with help from the posters in the thread we called out some scam books before going under. The last was bitcoinlivebets where it was predicted that it would be the next book to go under. It was posted that DirectBet would be the next book to go under for books rated "C-" and above.

This has angered DirectBet and the herd of followers. Be careful of new posters backing DirectBet as well as posters such as the one above that posts solely about DirectBert. These new posters have been used to taint ratings in another user generated poll.

DirectBet was the 9th rated book in the user generated poll until a herd of new users started giving top ratings to DirectBet with their vote. Not only that, but many then gave low ratings to the top books to bring their overall rating down.

None of the top rated books in our thread have gone under but the bottom rated books continue to go under.
3039  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 05, 2014, 01:35:30 AM
Hey Peep - Feel free to remove this if necessary, but we're looking to get max exposure on our upcoming Survivor Pool on CasinoBitco.in.

We did this last year with around 200 users, and even pair out over $4,000 to the winner in the FREE pool (due to the gigantic rise of BTC / USD price).

Check them out here!

https://casinobitco.in/suicide-pool

•   The object of the Survivor pool is to be the last active player
•   In order to accomplish this goal, a user must correctly pick the winner of one NFL football game each week
•   Each user can only pick each NFL football team once during the season
•   If a correct selection is made, the user will remain active for the following week
•   One (1) incorrect selections (loss) and that user will be eliminated
•   No point spreads are used.  The team just has to win
•   The last user remaining wins the entire pool!
I'm glad you posted it. This is a fun contest and I was in it last year.

Casinobitcoin has three different pools. One is free, one costs .05 BTC and the other .10 BTC. I'll be in all 3 pools picking different teams so I don't get knocked out all in one week.
3040  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 12:04:49 AM
A game being postponed has nothing to do with ML wagers as long as it goes 5 innings, 4.5 if the home team is ahead. It only pertains to the total and run line. Games are settled that day for wagering purposes. They aren't prolonged 3 days. The rules in playoff MLB differ book to book, but not the regular season.

I understand that some of the problems with bets being held aren't your fault most of the time even if unfair to the player, but there are many mistakes in the rules that you may want to change.

DirectBet rules
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If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed and an official result is not declared within three days of the scheduled start date, all bets will be void, except for those which have been unconditionally determined.
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