This whole thread has the purpose of stirring up distrust with no proof. So either present your proof for your accusations or stop spreading FUD.
Sam
You can never trust pools 100% of the time. I've been there, and done that.
I'm a big believer in "Trust but Verify". Sam |
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently
my thoughts too! Implying Pools are fair 100% of the time. shouldn't they?? guess they should. Deepbit doesn't need to be fair when they have some people mining PPS with a 10% fee  How is Deepbit being unfair when people *CHOOSE* to mine PPS there? Respect peoples choice to mine where they want for whatever reason they have. If some poor schmuck doesn't understand how PPS works then explain it to them when they ask. This whole thread has the purpose of stirring up distrust with no proof. So either present your proof for your accusations or stop spreading FUD. Sam Don't get me wrong - I love deepbit. I make more off deepbit than I make off any other pool Sorry, I didn't really mean to yell at you. It's the tone of this whole thread that I think is unfair to Deepbit. I don't understand why anyone would pay 10% fee for PPS either and I wouldn't have believed anyone still did until today. I'll just pipe down now, Sam |
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently
my thoughts too! Implying Pools are fair 100% of the time. shouldn't they?? guess they should. Deepbit doesn't need to be fair when they have some people mining PPS with a 10% fee How is Deepbit being unfair when people *CHOOSE* to mine PPS there? Respect peoples choice to mine where they want for whatever reason they have. If some poor schmuck doesn't understand how PPS works then explain it to them when they ask. This whole thread has the purpose of stirring up distrust with no proof. So either present your proof for your accusations or stop spreading FUD. Sam |
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for my bitcoin life I have been using slush, and have no complaints...till now...
I want a pool that i can have all information, my hashing speed, workers...everything. Slush has been great but having to wait 10 rounds to see my hash rate is killing me. I have an account on GPUmax, but i do not want to use them.
Ideally I would like a widget of some sort to use on my desktop too...was looking at ozcoin, but the widget part does not seem to be downloadable...
ANY SUGGESTIONS?
Max
Hey, your in luck, here's a link to a new mining pool list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104664.0 |
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I thought you found less shares with increased difficulty NOT they were just worth less Less blocks are found per MH/s or per given number of diff-1 shares when difficulty is high, but same number of shares per MH/s because difficulty is always 1 for shares. See my edit below If you plan on being a long term Deepbit miner, mining 24/7, you would probably make more using proportional. Lower fee, and I believe overall long term luck on Deepbit beats the difficulty. Sam |
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I have been getting app crash's the last few days. I'm pretty sure it is only when I'm running balance that it crash's. Anyone else have that trouble?
My 5830 is running just fine and then I get the app crash and there are a bunch of hardware errors. I have run this for weeks at a time before without getting any HW Errors.
CGMiner 2.7.5
Win 7 32 bit
Thanks,
Sam
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Hello everyone, I am using ckolivas's cg miner with an nvidia geforce gt520 and I don't believe I am getting the MH/s rates I shouls be getting as I am currently getting 10.4 - 14.3 MH/s which is pretty much the same speeds I get from my laptop cpu (intel t4400). My current command line is: "cgminer.exe -o http://mint.bitminter.com:8332 -u c4n10 -p password --gpu-engine 800 --auto-fan --gpu-memclock 800 --gpu-vddc 0.900 --intensity 9" Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks! The right direction is to get an AMD GPU if you want to GPU mine. Nvidia GPU's aren't good for Bitcoin mining. Sam Edit: To answer your question a bit better check the mining hardware comparison. There is one GT520 listed and it gets 8.9Mhs, so you are doing better than others who have tried that GPU. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparisonThat is pretty sad... So my brand new desktop gpu stands no chance of out-performing my 2 year old laptop cpu...? Doesn't look like it. Like I said if you want to GPU mine get an AMD/ATI GPU. If you have a spare PCIe slot you can add one and mine on it while you still use your Nvidia card for gaming and whatever else you do at the same time. Or look at the top of that Hardware Comparison chart link to see what FPGA options are available. They will use much less power. At 10 Mhs it will take a long time to get anywhere. Sam |
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No I mine at BTCGuild, I noticed this morning that in the HALL of FAME my "Blocks found" went from 1 to 3 overnight. Mining less than 8 ghs right now. Moving up again next week, should be mid-teens by next week.
Ah, I wasn't sure what you meant. But that's still pretty cool. Keep on doing what you've been doing  . That's an impressive hash rate. I wish I could afford that before ASIC's hit. Oh well. Take Care, Sam |
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Hello everyone, I am using ckolivas's cg miner with an nvidia geforce gt520 and I don't believe I am getting the MH/s rates I shouls be getting as I am currently getting 10.4 - 14.3 MH/s which is pretty much the same speeds I get from my laptop cpu (intel t4400). My current command line is: "cgminer.exe -o http://mint.bitminter.com:8332 -u c4n10 -p password --gpu-engine 800 --auto-fan --gpu-memclock 800 --gpu-vddc 0.900 --intensity 9" Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks! The right direction is to get an AMD GPU if you want to GPU mine. Nvidia GPU's aren't good for Bitcoin mining. Sam Edit: To answer your question a bit better check the mining hardware comparison. There is one GT520 listed and it gets 8.9Mhs, so you are doing better than others who have tried that GPU. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison |
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WOOT WOOT FOUND 2 more blocks LAST NIGHT!!!!!!
No added benefit in a pool, solo mining yes but not in a pool. Hmmm SundaY AND I found 2 blocks last night and my football team won yesterday, like ice cube sez "its gonna be a good day".
You found two blocks solo mining? That's great luck. What's your total hash rate up to now? Sam |
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Is this what the --balance option in CGMiner does? I've heard a lot of people talking about that option a while back, but I never understood the purpose. Thanks for pointing out that thread! In my experience both balance and load balance are skewed heavily toward Ozco. ckolivas says that's because load balance make more use of pools using rolltime since that has a much lower load. So I guess Ozco uses rolltime? I can't find any references to that on list of features though. You would probably need to run multiple instances of your miner to distribute your hash rate reliably. Sam |
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At what point is it considered more profitable to solo mine, rather than mine at a pool? 1 GH/s? 10GH/s? 100GH/s?
When/if the network hashrate goes to 400+Ths those of us that have GPU rigs may as well solo mine since we'll get virtually nothing from mining on a pool. Leave it to random chance on solving a block. That will also help keep the network decentralized which is a good thing. If you are one who can afford a high end ASIC/FPGA Rig/Farm, keep mining at your favorite pool and keep getting a steady income. Sam Lol we have opposite views on this then. You're saying smaller operations should solo mine, but larger farms should pool mine. I've always thought of it as the opposite, where pools are more attractive to those with smaller hash speeds (just so they can get something), but there becomes a certain point as you grow that it's better off to solo farm. If the network hash rate increases astronomically over one difficulty period like some are predicting then yes the larger farms should, obviously, solo mine for that short period before the difficulty increases astronomically to match the hash rate. Then after that the drunken party will be over so the large farms will probably be better off pool mining. At least until the next bump in technology. Us small time miners will get virtually no income from pool mining, unless the Bitcoin value increases dramatically as well, so we may as well solo mine and hope for a block once in a while, or just shut down completely and quit mining altogether. I'm too stubborn for that though . Maybe once the ASIC's come out the current big time miners will want to sell their FPGA's and I'll by one or two of those and just let the mine in the corner for a few years and not think about it. When everyone else is going with the flow someone has to go against the grain . Sam |
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At what point is it considered more profitable to solo mine, rather than mine at a pool? 1 GH/s? 10GH/s? 100GH/s?
When/if the network hashrate goes to 400+Ths those of us that have GPU rigs may as well solo mine since we'll get virtually nothing from mining on a pool. Leave it to random chance on solving a block. That will also help keep the network decentralized which is a good thing. If you are one who can afford a high end ASIC/FPGA Rig/Farm, keep mining at your favorite pool and keep getting a steady income. Sam |
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Here the design is the bitcoin mining. And it is solid, we have been mining for 3 years and more!
The same more or less happened here. First people mined using their GPU, since they already had them. Then they noticed that bitcoin mining is here to stay and specialized and invested in FPGA. Using FPGA imply buying them (and they aren't cheap) and making the bitstream but once you do that, they use much much much less energy than a GPU. So it's more efficient for mining, moar profit!
Then some ppl started to invest into making an ASIC. But not for lower per chip cost. Well, this is a reason, but not the main one. The main ones are speed and efficiency (aka energy used). An ASIC is a chip specialized for mining, you put every transistor as you wish to mine faster as possible. An FPGA is a chip made by someone wich well, can do everything, not only mining, it's much much slower.
ASIC is FAST, very fast. The bfl asic "single" will do 40Gh/s for 1299$. For that price you can get what, a 3Gh/s computer? Or a 1.6Gh/s FPGA.
Hmm, so ASIC is just faster than FPGA. I kind of figured that must be the reason but wasn't really sure. In my past experience an FPGA was used kind of like a breadboard for field testing a circuit before it was made into the ASIC and performance, like we would need in Bitcoin, wasn't a need or concern for the most part. Thanks for the reply and explanation. That helps. Sam |
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I used to be a field service technician for a vertical market manufacturer. As such I was only peripherally involved with the actual manufacturing process.
When a new product was designed the first run usually used FPGA's for the proprietary circuitry. When enough units were sold and the design was thought to be solid then they would mask the silicon and have ASIC's made which are allot cheaper than FPGA's.
So I'm at a bit of a loss as to what the big deal is about using ASIC's and the expected huge increase in performance over FPGA's? Can someone please enlighten me?
It would seem to me that the design would be implemented in FPGA's and then when the design is solid and quantities sold warranted it then move to ASIC's for the lower per chip cost. But that doesn't seem to be the consensus here.
Thanks,
Sam
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It's not the difficulty we are discussing, but the sudden jump overnight. Under normal conditions it rises steadily.
In your top post you said difficulty jumped over night. Now you are saying that your not talking about difficulty? What are you talking about then? Difficulty jumps, up or down, every 2016 blocks, that may be overnight when it happens, but it happens after 2016 blocks. Sam |
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It's funny how people search for things to panic about. What next? will there be a call to boycott the unknown section?
The hysteria was bad enough when just one pool approached 50% now we have to worry about 3 pools combined. Next we'll have to worry about, what 6 pools? 8 or more?
Ridiculous.
Sam
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No, I saw it, and I already changed my command line to include it. Someone else, might have been you, to add the cutoff, which was already in the config. What was tripping me up was the lines in the config that I didn't put there, and someone telling me to add the temp cutoff line. Thanks for the assistance. M EDIT: It occurred to me after I wrote this that the auto-gpu and auto-fan lines might have been in the config file to begin with, and I might have removed them. That of course would lead to this situation. I don't recall doing so, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. This little exercise in frustration is why I still use all command line options. Of course I also prefer a config.sys to a registry any day too Sam |
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I'm really sorry for interrupting or asking such a dumb question, but I seemed to have missed whats the pro with the higher difficulty ? Will I solve blocks faster ? Will I get paid more ? Will I have less stales ?! Sorry & Thanks ! I don't think it's a dumb question. My understanding is that higher difficulty shares will take longer for a miner to mine. So a Difficulty 4 share would take your rig a approx 4 times as long to achieve so the pool will then pay 4 times the amount than it would for a diff 1 share. So no you won't solve blocks faster, you won't get paid more and I don't know about stales. The reason for this is for pools to prepare for the high hash power mining hardware that are coming out soonish. The higher difficulty shares require less bandwidth to and from the pool and less processing power at the pool end. That's my understanding reading what different pool op's and Bitcoin experts have been posting here and there. I may be a little off, I usually am . Sam |
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Hi Graet, perhaps I am being overly observant watching out for conspiracies again.
Just because you ain't paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you! Sam |
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