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August 31, 2012, 08:59:30 PM
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Should be watched: http://blockchain.info/blocks/83.169.22.26

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August 31, 2012, 09:46:33 PM
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Is that around 1750Gh by my calcs?  Huh
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August 31, 2012, 10:01:06 PM
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Is that around 1750Gh by my calcs?  Huh

very strong miner or pool located in germany, so it cannot be GPU because of the high electricity costs --> ASIC??

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August 31, 2012, 10:17:15 PM
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http://blockchain.info/address/1LiumsurZnP2GAA78twQ6obKb1DWi1bUwv

That's deepbit. Notice a payout heading to 1vaynert?

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August 31, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
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http://blockchain.info/address/1LiumsurZnP2GAA78twQ6obKb1DWi1bUwv

That's deepbit. Notice a payout heading to 1vaynert?

no, I mine with deepbit.net. it's luck isn't so good at the moment.

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August 31, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
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http://blockchain.info/address/1LiumsurZnP2GAA78twQ6obKb1DWi1bUwv

That's deepbit. Notice a payout heading to 1vaynert?

no, I mine with deepbit.net. it's luck isn't so good at the moment.

you're right. it is deepbit. but why are the blocks not on their website?

http://blockchain.info/block-index/276749/00000000000005158434b1567427e8ebaa017e5660e37068fa438b862f20c9dc

http://blockchain.info/address/1LiumsurZnP2GAA78twQ6obKb1DWi1bUwv

EDIT: fishy thing!

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August 31, 2012, 10:54:53 PM
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They are listed on deepbits website, if you take in to account the 1+ hour delay.
https://deepbit.net/stats
Blockchain.info is not an authorative source for block origins, they just make educated guesses, and quite often wrong, particularly when it comes to deepbit.

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August 31, 2012, 10:59:49 PM
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They are listed on deepbits website, if you take in to account the 1+ hour delay.
https://deepbit.net/stats
Blockchain.info is not an authorative source for block origins, they just make educated guesses, and quite often wrong, particularly when it comes to deepbit.

i corrected it. see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg1150792#msg1150792

what is the "authorative source for block origins"?

EDIT: or better who is the "authorative source for block origins"? bitcoind?

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August 31, 2012, 11:02:39 PM
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There isnt really one, since no pool or solo miner has to come forward and claim the block; but the best public source would be this:
http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/

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August 31, 2012, 11:29:04 PM
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There isnt really one, since no pool or solo miner has to come forward and claim the block; but the best public source would be this:
http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/

blockchain.info has to maintain the IP list but if a pool decided to open a new datacenter location with a new IP blockchain.info cannot know that this new IP is dedicated to a pool. see my guess regarding Slush's pool here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105116.msg1150648#msg1150648

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September 08, 2012, 06:10:07 PM
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently
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September 09, 2012, 03:15:21 AM
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this thread again?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh

blockchain.info takes best guess from the 1st IP they see relaying a block

you do not need to create a block to relay it!!!!!!


many blocks have been announced by other miners through Deepbit that don't belong to Deepbit as well.

http://blockchain.info/pools this page says

Hashrate distribution An estimation of hashrate distribution amongst the largest mining pools
The graph below shows the market share of the most popular bitcoin mining pools. It should only be used as a rough estimate and for various reasons will not be 100% accurate. A large portion of Unknown blocks does not mean an attack on the network, it simply means we have been unable to determine the origin. If you can identify any of the ips in the unknown list please post here.

they state they are not definitive, please stop treating them like they are.

http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/top.php at least states "We have no data about 197 (9.77%) blocks." it sort of helps ppl not to go "OMG UNKNOWN!!!!"
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September 09, 2012, 07:38:23 PM
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently

my thoughts too!

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September 10, 2012, 01:35:08 AM
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently

my thoughts too!
Unlikely.
They do, however, employ a few of these tricks to make it harder for people to hop. It took me the best part of a week to get my proxy to reliably hop deepbit  Wink
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September 10, 2012, 07:07:54 AM
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently

my thoughts too!

Deepbit stats are analysed to death. For instance by organofcorti:
http://organofcorti.blogspot.be/2012/03/21-deepbit.html

It would make absolutely zero sense for Deepbit to steal a few 50BTC blocks and risk their pool altogether when they are making over 2000 BTC per month in fees without cheating.

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September 10, 2012, 07:25:31 AM
Last edit: September 10, 2012, 07:36:31 AM by organofcorti
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Deepbit's average round length / D for the last week was close to spot on average. The negative binomial CDF prob for the week was approx. 0.5

Have a look at this post if you want to check DeepBit's stats compared to other pools: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2012/09/8th-september-weekly-pool-statistics.html

I may not agree with [Tycho]'s dogged continuation of the proportional reward method, but I have never seen anything remotely resembling block theft.

It's possible I suppose - I'm not sure I would be able to detect any significant change from expected if one block in a thousand was misappropriated - but then you wouldn't notice any change in luck either. This sort of behaviour is also not what I'd expect of [Tycho]. In my dealings with him he has never been underhanded and always honest.

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September 10, 2012, 08:37:05 PM
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently

my thoughts too!

Implying Pools are fair 100% of the time.

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September 10, 2012, 08:54:52 PM
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently

my thoughts too!

Implying Pools are fair 100% of the time.

shouldn't they?? guess they should.

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September 10, 2012, 08:58:43 PM
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently

my thoughts too!

Implying Pools are fair 100% of the time.

shouldn't they?? guess they should.
Deepbit doesn't need to be fair when they have some people mining PPS with a 10% fee  Wink
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September 10, 2012, 09:04:43 PM
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Possible that Deepbit is redirecting some of its hashrate and the pool op is lining his pockets with unreported blocks? kinda explains why they've had bad luck recently

my thoughts too!

Implying Pools are fair 100% of the time.

shouldn't they?? guess they should.
Deepbit doesn't need to be fair when they have some people mining PPS with a 10% fee  Wink

indeed!

It would make absolutely zero sense for Deepbit to steal a few 50BTC blocks and risk their pool altogether when they are making over 2000 BTC per month in fees without cheating.

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