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3041  Economy / Economics / Re: Will people come back to gold on: December 07, 2018, 04:22:57 AM
Even the Central banks are buying more Gold (+13% from the previous year). Economists predict a dark year for 2019 and it seems a lot of large funds are now buying Gold massively. Especially from Asia and Soviets.
They must be buying OTC gold then, because the market as it is doesn't reflect the huge buyers interest that seems to be suggested here. It's entirely possible like what happens with Bitcoin, but I doubt it at this stage.

Governments are mostly the first to notice that their economies will very likely perform poorly in the coming years, and would start accumulating as much gold as possible to hedge potential risk of devaluation asap.

We haven't yet seen the global economy go full bear to see what its effect is on Bitcoin at current stage. I guess the odds are high that it works against Bitcoin rather than for it, but I will applaud being proven wrong if so.

   Investment on Gold never disappeared...the 3rd quarter of this year Gold price value drops to lowest point as posted on the Stock Market Exchange.. then after such drops it slowly goes up again..investors are often shift some of their investment into another project with high potential of gain on either short term or long term investment. The significant of Investment on Gold is simple..it is a solid asset compared to crypto as Digital asset. still it is an individual choice where they want to invest.
3042  Economy / Economics / Re: The harmful affect of a continuous downward movement of the Bitcoin price. on: December 06, 2018, 10:24:09 AM
This is really sad to see bitcoin at the dump price and it keeps on going down like there's no support level, but its hard to stop it because we have no power to do that and most of the short term investors are panicking, they don't want to enter in the market right now. To dump is a normal thing in any market, manipulators is normal too but hopefully they will stop from doing that now or else no more investors will trust this market because of too much volatility.

We need a slow upward trend to get us back on track or this will go down in flames.  Sad
Let's start from spreading the good news about cryptomarket now, and slowly this market will go back on its track and continue to give a brighter future for us. This is not the end yet. Smiley

   The harmful effect of crypto market down turn can be identified as Anger after losing investment, Depression etc.etc. These are manifested as reaction to the down turn of the market or huge drops on price value of such coin. but one should handle these caustiously. investment came with the degree of risk...the market volatility affects the consumets behavior.. it also the consumers trust and confidence on crypto investment that would influnce the volatility of the market.
3043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: road to success on: December 06, 2018, 03:04:35 AM
What kind of PR methods are successful in a crypto project ? and what attracts you? For example, digital marketing platforms like twitter, facebook or airdrops or bounties. What is your opinion ?


I think the offline marketing campaigns are more effective than any other social platform, because it allows the ICO team to appear in public and spread their word and attract more interested investors
    We have different kind of idea on Marketing strategy, be it on social media or broadcast, and print adds. this are just a few on how to market your product. but one should note that one has to be a good products for investment, good market structure, good fundamentals and one most important is the consumers positive reactions to the product for possible investment. it is the products that attract the investors, even with good marketing strategy Still it is the product should be package carefully.
3044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Lessons from the fullest dip on: December 06, 2018, 02:55:07 AM
Im a long term player, i should love my coins, thats why im still hoding even dip is too painful to see, i even deposit money to buy more in last 4days Smiley

I agree it is good to love your coins and even better to hodl it
But if you sold bitcoin at 6500$ after noticing the dumps,
Then you bought back at 4500$, that’s immense profit already from your initial capital

But everyone has their opinion though
   

    Yes, market drops tell us everything to learn the market of crypto investment, we may loss some and we gain some.. one should always note that, in every investment have some degree of risk factors involved. it us or every investor responsibility on how we manage the crypto market. Patient and timing on investment are the key factors should be consider. one should always take the opportunity when it comes. take the profit, then invest with good coins fundamentats. 
3045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Next month early January 2019. on: December 06, 2018, 02:47:34 AM
What is your best plan, if you look at the uncertain crypto market situation, do you have plans to invest in several altcoins?
what coins do you think will be good in 2019. Thanks. Smiley

My plan is to keep waiting and holding my coins due to this certain drops we have experienced. I dont think of quiting just because of this. There is always a time when prices go down but most importantly, we should not sell our stocks without profit.
    Be patient market correction follow after drops,  with Hight Volatility of the market one should always keep Patient and never make a panic sell off of your investment, if you can hold on then hold, Crytpo market will remain up for future market investment. we may have experience some loss hope but i am positive it will make another market correction then goes up for a more favorable market status. The key is patient, Crypto market will remain active until it is fully accepted by the financial global community.
3046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't quit investing on: December 06, 2018, 02:39:04 AM
This is the most realistic and effective advice. When the cryptocurrency market falls, we should wait patiently for not blind investment. Abandoning investment is usually a loss, and protecting the principal of the investment is the most important.
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   We've have seen the ups and down of the crypto market, Yes, it is a big opportunity to buy coin with the big drops on each price value on the market, a lot good coins now are very affordable. but one should take note that, invest only what you can afford to loss Market is Volatile.
3047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The first risk-free ICO with money back guarantee on: November 29, 2018, 10:30:36 PM
When icos will have a specific model of return on investment and the market will be more stable only then I can trust my money to them.


   It is a great market strategy for such project, But one should note that, every investment come the same Risk factor upon investment in the market, they may have a lot of Capital out lay if in case the market drops and such coin was affected by the drop. i may have some reservation on such strategy   on ICO posting. Market is Volatile, it is unpredictable. i may jump later but not until the market be more stable as posted.good luck guys.
3048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What are your expectations for ICOs in 2019? on: November 29, 2018, 10:19:48 PM
It is very simple to answer, the icos performance is linked to the overall crypto market performance so if market stays like we are currently seeing i dont expect icos to perform well rather they will struggle even more but lets stay positive and hope that from december and january market will recover and volumes will be back.

   Well, it is very unpredictable, with the recent activity on the market, we can not expect a smooth sailing come the 2019 market... A lot has been said about the possible market performance and it is all negative news about on what to become on the market, a lot of scheduled launching of project on ICO was deferred for the last quarter schedule and move for next year instead, Market Volatility affect all in the crypto currency market, it will be a rough sea's for the ICO come 2019?
3049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and altcoins on: November 29, 2018, 10:08:47 PM
BTC is not doing so well lately.
Directly or indirectly, altcoins are affected too.

Nevertheless, is the downfall of Bitcoin makes any good to altcoins?

Of course bitcoin price will affected the altcoins price in USD terms my friend,,
But not all altcoins will falling in BTC terms,,,
And a good altcoins will increase its value in bitcoin terms,, even if bitcoin down in usd terms
Regards

 I am sure everyone is quite aware of what had just recently happen in the market, the huge drops on crypto market resulting to a very large loses on almost all investors of crypto and ALT coins, But it is the reality on the market, price value may goes ups and goes down dependent on the volume of investment by the investors put in for such specific coin on the crypto or ALT coin as posted in the market, We've seen the market activity not all are loser there are some gainer's. Bitcoin drops, some ALT coin goes ups, it is the market investors or consumer's level of confidence that affects the Volatility of the market.
3050  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: With all honesty, who still wants bitcoin to die? on: November 28, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
Who ever spread the FUD of bitcoin price to be going down are happy now as they are seeing the price moving down and as expected the last support of $3000 is waiting to be tested.

   Well, Market investment always co inside the risk factors upon investment, Yes, a lot people spread the negative news about Bitcoin and what to expect.. maybe they are happy now but it is just a short time, Market recovery always follow after the Market glitz, More active market movement can be seen on the trading market, i am sure they are now doing something like planning again for another Negative news? Bitcoin was beaten before with such negative news yet, it REMAINS active in the crypto market....good luck guys..
3051  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is Why you Should Worry! on: November 28, 2018, 01:27:43 PM
Your statement is absolutely flawed in so many ways. People should only look at the history of the Bitcoin price to see that it has a recurring trend of bouncing back from price collapses like this. Yes, there are NO guarantees, but what high risk investment, gives guaranteed results? <Name one please>  Roll Eyes  

Looking at the growth potential and the businesses that are built around Bitcoin, I still think that a price correction is near, but we should never promise anything to "new" investors. <Just highlight the risks and let them decide>  Wink

You say
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People should only look at the history of the Bitcoin price to see that it has a recurring trend of bouncing back from price collapses like this.

You admit their are no guarantees, but the very 1st thing you did was Imply their was one with your opening statement.
As if it is guaranteed, Past History is not a guarantee of Future History.

If you are investing money and lose ~80% of it in less than a year, a person should worry, they be a fool not too.
Whether they hold, buy, or sell is their choice, but their decisions should not be tainted by false faith in a past history that may or may not repeat itself.
Especially considering the factors that exist now, that have never existed before in btc history.

New Factors
BTC Energy Waste is worse than ever, requiring permits from Government Utilities
Miners have multiple forks to choose from, BTC, BCH, BSV , no longer limited to BTC only as in the past.
BTC is seeing less transactions usuage not more.
Other coins are used as offramps into FIAT now, in the past bitcoin was the only one.
Billionaires are fighting over which fork is the real bitcoin, in the past they all supported only BTC.
These variables can have a massive effect on BTC Future.  

Same way with your idea I guess, you do not know what is the future of BTC so quit blabbering about you know what is the next thing.  It is better to have reference than not at all.  So between your statement and the history of Bitcoin bouncing back, I would rather trust history than non factual statement for the future like yours.  

BTC, BCH, BSV, that is no difference, there are other coins that have same algo like bitcoins since Bitcoin early years and yet Bitcoin is still here.


  Hi Guys... Relax... Bitcoin still here, Crypto Market is still very active, price value on the market may goes ups and down to the year low, but it will goes ups again on the more favorable market status, Sad to note, people with a little Patient on the market Behavior often time go crazy... But i would assumed non of us here are crazy... let's wait for the market recovery, yes, it is on the market history that sometime for no reason market price value of such coin drops suddenly. this just a normal occurrence in the market, Be patient..
3052  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin fail? What do you think is the most probable scenario why Bitcoin mi on: November 28, 2018, 01:16:49 PM
Although highly unlikely to me it's some hidden flaw in the algorithm that would allow cheating somehow and there would be no way to fix it. what do you think?

There is a hidden flaw. It is called a "Quantum Computer" that can be used to crack the ECDSA algorithm that bitcoin uses.

There is no easy solution to the threat QC creates.
Yes, we can make a new address format that is quantum safe, but we CANNOT protect the coins in old "lost" addresses, because to protect them, the owner would have to move the coins to a new kind of address, and it cant be done, because those coins are lost.

   Bitcoin price value nose dive to a year low as posted on the market thread. But it is not the end of it, remember that there are a lot of Factors affecting the crypto market now a days, The in fight on the status on the market really affects the confidence level of the consumer's, plus the negative news posted on social media all of these contribute to the drops on the price value resulting to massive sell off. But i am confident that the market will recover soon.
3053  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the Market Stabilizing? on: November 27, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
I think that we have pretty long period of stabilized market, but right now volatility comes back and it will not leave this market soon. Also I think that after few months of crazy price movements we will have consolidation phase where cryptocurrencies market will be stabilized for some time.


  We can not assumed yet that the market is stabilizing. Some are still in the Panic mode, massive sell off has still very active as posted in the trading market, The only positive news is that, Bitcoin maybe testing the new resistance level on the market @ 3700 US$, but we can never tell what to become in the market until the consumer's confidence level goes high again on Bitcoin? The market is crazy, it is unpredictable....
3054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is BTC dead on: November 26, 2018, 10:46:02 PM
TUSD will not replace BTC as it is still backed by USD which has an inherent risk of reducing in value so it will NOT replace BTC as an alternative store of value.

   What had happen to the market are massive sell off on the trading market, as reaction to the huge drops on the price value of Bitcoin, some are trying to save their investment by Panic Dump of all their investment which in turned contribute to a lot more drops on Bitcoin, it is the lower consumer's confidence by the investors that further down the market, not to mention the Negative news all over the social media, and on Broadcast that create more reaction on the market. I still that Bitcoin will recover soon.
3055  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it Game Over for Bitcoin? on: November 26, 2018, 10:37:38 PM
Prices have been on a constant decline ever since this year began. There's been FUD all over the place, and governments have been cracking down on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. In addition, there have been several hacks which have also contributed to the decline in the value of the whole cryptocurrency market. As such, many people have lost their faith in Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general, as they've lost a lot of money.

This has all happened before -- FUD, hacks and all. After the 2011 run, the price dropped by 94%. After the 2013 run, the price dropped by 87%. So far this time, price has dropped nearly 80%. Not too bad.

The highs are epic and the lows are gut wrenching. This is the same Bitcoin market I've always known. Grab some popcorn and try to enjoy the ride. Stop worrying about the price so much!

   It is not game over for Bitcoin, it is just a market movement, with the negative news about Bitcoin are all over the news which affectsa the market confidence on the thread, a lot sell off on the market also affect the stability as we've seen the huge drops on crypto market price. Yes, it had happen before and goes ups to a more unexpected price as posted on the crypto market, i do believe that market correction will follow after such drops in the price. Let's wait for the market status to a more stable price.
3056  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we still believe in Bitcoin? on: November 23, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
Yes indeed, I strongly believe in cryptocurrancy. Because they have potential prospects of profits. All you have to do is choose the right cryptocurrancy at the right time. Due to its large profits, the countries around the world have adopted it today. All intellectuals, who know about crypto currency, have adopted it all. Given its large profits, it has become so famous in such time. Today the research is continuing around the world. There are other reasons too for deep trust in the crypto currency.

 Yes, i still believe on Bitcoin, crypto market is never been active as before, we know that somewhere, somehow, we will experience the ups and down on the market of crypto currency as posted, Some country in EUROPE are now open for Crypto currency digital transaction, i am optimistic that some country will follow thru after they resolved the issue on Regulation by government financial institution. i am looking forward that Bitcoin will be accepted to be the New Digital Currency globally...
3057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin prices are destroyed, everyone is disappointed on: November 23, 2018, 03:29:07 PM
I too felt disappointed at some point but that feeling didn't last long for me. Sure the recent price drop was not expected especially when we all thought that it will have some bullish breakout based on the descending triangle it has formed but the unexpected happened and I was not prepared to handle it. But then I realize that my disappointed at the price won't do no good for both me and what I am hodling that is why I would rather be an optimistic rather than to grieve like all hopes are lost, there is still hope and BTC is still fighting to rise back up again, after all we are all just speculators here and hodling BTC is really risky during the bear market.

   I disagree that Bitcoin is destroyed? Crypto market is still here, actively trading, a lot of investors are either buying or selling on their Bitcoin for their profits, we know that every body here are investors knew the risk factors involved before such investment on Bitcoin, some are already gained, had enjoyed their profits from previous crypto transaction. It is safe to feel sorry or disappointed after the huge drops on the price value of Bitcoin but we knew the risk involved, that one may loss such investment and gain if the market is favorable to investors.
3058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin prediction from 'Experts' on: November 23, 2018, 03:20:48 PM
Firstly they has already been a whole lot of expert views and analyses concerning bitcoin and it's future some has been negative while some has been positive. But I have come to the realization that this a just speculation and might turn out to be wrong

   A lot of speculation from experts are now available on the social, broadcast media. We heard  a lot of negative news as posted, But, one should remember the Market is Volatile, it is  unpredictable, no one knows on what will happen in the crypto market, all investor's knew the risk involved in the market, what had happen recently had already happened before, please review the  the market history. i am still believe that market correction will follow after such market drops.
3059  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What comes after Bitcoin? on: November 23, 2018, 03:13:25 PM
I don't believe that the world will become so "digitized" as you describe it.What about the poor countries in the third world?Do you think they will become "digitized"?However,to answer your question about what comes after bitcoin.My answer is...nothing. Grin
The blockchain technology might be adopted in various industries,but all cryptocurrencies will become obsolete.

I do think the poor countries in the world will also be affected. Satellites will soon make internet access a global "right." https://www.geekwire.com/2018/spacex-gets-set-launch-first-prototype-starlink-satellites-global-internet-access/

Why do you think cryptocurrencies will become obsolete? What indicator are you basing this prediction off of?

  We don't know really on what to become on Bitcoin in the market, all of the negative news are affecting the crypto market, the consumer's behavior or level of confidence are dropping as shown on the market, a lot of sell off as the price value of Bitcoin dive further, i am still optimistic on the market recovery after such market drops as posted, one should look into the market movement, it seem the market is stabilizing now at the level of 4k but a lot of negative speculation on the status, is this the new resistance level of Bitcoin? will it goes up again? a lot of question which affect the consumer's confidence level. Be patient instead and wait....
3060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Prices are Being Manipulated... on: November 23, 2018, 03:04:20 PM


In the article "Dirty secret revealed in new bitcoin crash", the writer Jason Murphy says that "Bitcoin is supposed to be an expression of collective free will in a system controlled only by the incorruptible mathematics of cryptography. The currency collapse pattern suggests Bitcoin may not be so free after all" he said this because the prices maybe are being manipulated by bots or someone or some group. He explains that in moments when the markets are having stability and suddenly the prices fall that means manipulation.

What do you guys think? I think that maybe there is a little manipulation

full article: https://www.news.com.au/finance/markets/world-markets/dirty-secret-revealed-in-new-bitcoin-crash/news-story/18d203a429ee1cc145f79d3ada7e2086
yes indeed bitcoin is being manipulated. why the price of bitcoin cannot remain. now the price of bitcoin is up and down. so we must be patient in investing in bitcoin.

  Bitcoin price manipulation maybe right or maybe wrong? one should understand that crypto market has been participated by a lot of investors with unknown personality except it will just shown on the volume of investment put in by such account either on trading , investment (long term or short term), HODL, we will never know the actual movement yet we can see the ups and down on the market thread as posted. I am still looking forward on the positive indicators as the system is safe from insiders trading.
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