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3041  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back on: December 16, 2021, 07:54:24 PM
In short, the return of Satoshi will negatively affect the currency in one way or another. He can also contribute to the development of the code without revealing his identity.
I hope he doesn't stalk this discussion despite some of my beliefs about him still contributing to this forum and bitcoin in any way.
Without activating the wallet then I think satoshi can still contribute behind the scenes just by emailing the bitcoin developer or something. So far I have never heard of an administrator who was accused of being a satoshi to provide information about satoshi at least as long as I am active in this forum. So anything is still possible about satoshi but if he appears then we will only get 2 impacts and that is positive about CSW false claim and negative on price.
3042  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Indonesia Tidak Ikuti China, Kabar Gembira? on: December 16, 2021, 07:38:37 PM
Saya sendiri agak sulit menemukan keterkaitannya, hanya menemukan sedikit informasi kalau kedua akun tersebut pernah ikut dalam satu campaign dan posting di satu thread yang sama hanya selang beberapa menit.
Tanpa bukti yang valid seperti koneksi akun media sosial dan wallet ataupun hal lainnya mungkin tidak bisa dijadikan alasan bahwa kedua akun tersebut adalah alt. Namun hal yang janggal seperti merit dikirimkan pada postingan yang seharusnya tidak memenuhi syarat untuk mendapatkan merit mungkin bisa menguatkan asumsi tentang koneksi, namun karena sistem merit tidak di moderasi maka seseorang bisa membuang smeritnya pada postingan manapun meskipun secara objektif tidak memenuhi standar.

Selain itu, 1 atau 2 merit yang disalahgunakan tidak akan berpengaruh banyak pada sistem merit. Meskipun kecurigaan bisa saja ada, tapi merit itu tidak akan berpengaruh banyak pada rank mereka. Jadi intinya harus ada bukti otentik yang bisa dijadikan alasan untuk mengaitkan kedua akun itu berbuat curang terhadap sistem merit.



Sepertinya agan gagal paham dengan tulisan Op. Bitcoin itu Currency, bukan exchange.
Hingga saat ini bitcoin masih dianggal ilegal, selain yang diterbitkan oleh negara (otoritas moneter)
Bitcoin merupakan uang digital yang diterbitkan oleh pihak selain otoritas moneter, wajar jika bitcoin dianggap ilegal.
Bitcoin (cryptocurrency) salah satu metode pembayaran baru di dunia yang tidak menggunakan fiat.
Sekarang Bitcoin mulai diterima khususnya di Indonesia. Karena Bappebti sudah memberikan kepastian hukum tentang Bitcoin di Indonesia. Dengan kata lain, transaksi menggunakan bitcoin bisa dibilang sudah legal di Indonesia.
Bitcoin tidak ilegal dalam konteks komoditi asset di Indonesia, tetap ilegal dalam konteks mata uang atau alat pembayaran. Indonesia melegalkan crypto termasuk bitcoin sebagai aset investasi atau perdagangan, namun jika itu digunakan sebagai alat pembayaran maka pasal pertama anda sudah melanggar undang-undang. Mungkin bisa kembali dijelaskan biar @GajahMada17 tidak tambah binggung.
3043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: December 16, 2021, 01:32:09 PM
I will definitely be watching the Sevilla - Atletico Madrid game. I'm hoping for a delightful game that each team score a goal or goals. Sevilla are the advantageous team when it comes to getting a win. They have had a better form than Atletico recently. Atletico lost their last two La Liga games. I understand the loss against Real Madrid but the one against Mallorca home was really shocking to me. They aren't a reliable team these days and I think that Sevilla will get at least one point.
Looking on table position Sevilla looks more favorite than Atletico Madrid where last match defeat by Real Madrid 2-0, Interested match between Sevilla vs Atletico Madrid because both team together want to get three points and make position standing close with Real Madrid. Last week Sevilla success got three points from Atletico Bilbao and success standing on second position, I think if Sevilla success get three points against with Atletico Madrid have large chance keep safety on second position until next week.
The match will take place at home to Sevilla and so far Sevilla are unbeaten at home in 7 match in a row. Sevilla collected 6 wins and 1 draw at home and it will be a great game for both team. Meanwhile, Atlético Madrid have suffered 2 defeats away from home from the 8 match they have played including 4 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses.

So I think there is a possibility of a draw for Sevilla vs Atletico Madrid even though both need a win to secure their place. But for sure this is an interesting match for both teams.
3044  Economy / Speculation / Re: New all time high record | $66,000 on: December 15, 2021, 08:22:06 PM
Right now we can only hope that bitcoin can recover soon and get out of the current tornado, the current price decline is arguably the worst weakening that has occurred in the last three months, and I personally don't want to think too far into all the possibilities it might happen, but I hope the bitcoin price can rebound to the $50K price resistance by the end of this month.
Don't worry about the bitcoin price being corrected because I think that's normal. The price of bitcoin in the last few hours has seen a slight increase where it has increased its market cap back to $924,318,142,008 at its current price of $48.9K per coin. So don't panic too much and this is not a storm you should think about. $50K is very close and it may only take a few hours - days from now to see it hit. So take a moment to relax and enjoy how this market moves.

DU18, there is still hope for ATH later this year. So you just need to prepare yourself for that moment.
3045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: December 15, 2021, 08:13:58 PM
At the moment Atletico Madrid's performance is also not in a good condition, moreover we know that Atletico Madrid are only lucky to be in the last 16 at this time if you see their journey in the group phase which is quite difficult.
I don't think it was luck, but it was the success that Atletico Madrid had in the group stage final. You have to agree about the hardships all teams feel when Liverpool and AC Milan are in one group, but underestimating Porto then Atletico really have to fight for the points.

Of course, the January transfer market must be used by Atletico Madrid well to improve the quality of the current squad of players before facing Manchester United, I think Manchester United is starting to rise now, of course, it will provide a big enough resistance for Atletico Madrid, yes, the factor of having Ronaldo is certainly a factor advantage for Manchester United, but still the greatness of Ronaldo can not be separated from the support of his teammates so far.
The addition of a few players is expected to improve the team's performance, but I don't know who they will bring in January because to be honest I haven't followed this team much throughout the season. However, Manchester United must be careful with Atletico who are present in the last 16 this time, they are a very strong team and are uncertain in a match. So Atletico could have won unexpectedly.
3046  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: December 15, 2021, 08:03:03 PM
Manchester City are just too hard to cone down once they're top of tje league table.
It was totally something else,i think leeds will be relegated back to the championship,there approach to the premier league this season has honestly been poor.
Although they had injury issues at tje stsrt of the season.
Seeing Jack Grealish scoring is something i have always longed for, too giid to be handled,Pep Guardola is the best.
One thing that is truly extraordinary about Manchester City is that they don't want to waste their goal-party opportunities when the opponent can't defend well throughout the match. 7 goals in one match might be embarrassing for the coach as well as the Leeds United players, but it was completely unexpected. Manchester City can be scary when their players are at their peak. No team can stop them if they can play consistently like the match vs Leeds. It was the greatest show I've ever seen in a Premier League match this season.

Meanwhile, Arsenal vs West Ham live now and I think Arsenal will have a hard time winning today because West Ham will fight hard to stay in the top 4 of the current standings. Arsenal may be eager to beat West Ham to reach 4th place, but it was sure to get some strong resistance today. A draw would have been expected, but Arsenal have the potential to win today. 1-1 or 1-3 for the result.
3047  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: December 14, 2021, 04:22:23 PM
Ramos, who has had a long career with Real Madrid, of course, will be very emotional facing the match in the round of 16 later, I think as a professional player, of course, Ramos will exert his ability to help PSG win in that match, besides that Ramos has a great opportunity to show to Madrid if he is still a strong defender despite his age, I think Ramos, who was dumped by Madrid last season, must have been heartbroken after all his career he spent with Madrid.
Ramos still loves Real Madrid very much and you can find the proof if you look at something on his official instagram, but he doesn't want to make the decision that he wants to retire at Madrid. PSG gave him the opportunity to continue his professional career as a player and of course he is expected to help PSG to have a strong defense with him. There may be no guarantees due to his old age and declining fitness given that he has suffered a number of injuries, but he can still bring out his best for a defender.

Real Madrid will be the favorites in this match, but PSG is not an opponent to be underestimated when Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are in good form. Both have a chance to win, it will be an impressive match for both teams especially when Messi and Ramos away to Spain.
3048  Economy / Speculation / Re: New all time high record | $66,000 on: December 14, 2021, 04:06:27 PM
there are some weak hands mate so its not surprising when bitcoin trying to break all time high it sometimes failed to touch.. Cheesy and for sure most are traders in my personal opinion wherein who already set the target because of the demand supply strategy. Lol market isn't perfect like what others saying.. But the fact that most people who used bitcoin had different attitudes and strategies..  Grin
I can only suggest to anyone who never expected the market to always be profitable for him because basically bitcoin can never go up endlessly all the time. Bitcoin can reach ATH at any time as long as there is a high demand but of course it is a process and will never happen without any support.

The fact is that the bitcoin price is down 33% from the last ATH $69K but that doesn't warrant the idea that a bearish period is on its way. I'm just saying this is a correction where fluctuation can trigger a new trend which may be better. However, too much panic will only prevent the price from breaking through the resistance above it so that the failure to reach a new ATH will be more pronounced.
3049  Other / Meta / Re: Interesting facts about the merit system on: December 14, 2021, 03:56:54 PM
You cannot stop them because we have a different perspective they want to support altcoin projects, also we have a merit system in the altcoins campaign they don't require too much also few people rank up with the altcoins because their goal is to make in the quota.
One of the most effective method of stopping spammers is to report as often as possible posts that you find off-topic, non-constructive and low-quality to moderators.

Today it makes it hard to rank up because of the merit system and they don't want to spend a lot more time to get it most of the campaign now requires a minimum of full members and it took a long journey to have this because of 100 merits than the member rank of 10 merit requirements. Still it is better to have a quality post than spamming post only it does not benefit the whole community.
Whether or not it is difficult to rank up as long as this merit system exists depends on the user's own interests. If users have a great interest in learning bitcoin then they will probably rank faster without worrying too much about merit. But this will never happen to users who from the start only thought about how to make money through bounty and you may find they don't get a single merit even though the number of posts has reached thousands. If users care about rank then they should make an effort to learn and improve their knowledge about their interests in order to make quality posts.
3050  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: KNOWLEDGE IS BETTER THAN MERIT on: December 14, 2021, 03:32:05 PM
The definite step I have taken so far is to make sure that each post I make is much more useful than the previous one and that has given me some merit so far. So when I started ignoring quantity (post count is zero), then I started to feel like this merit system was working for me.
The merit system is meant to encourage every user to improve the quality of posts, it's up to who you are and how long you've been in this forum but if you don't have a Legendary rank then you need merit to achieve it and one of the condition is that you have to have quality or useful post.

I'm sure sooner or later I'll be able to rank up like most of the good posters here.
It's a sure thing but everyone can say anything but if they don't have consistency and effort then it will only slow down the achievement. I may not need to suggest much on how you should be able to achieve quality posts because you are one of the old members here, but it is not impossible that you also still have a lot to learn if you were previously a spammer. Ok I can only support your efforts and intention but in the end you have your own way to decide.



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KNOWLEDGE IS BETTER THAN MERIT
Knowledge cant be compared with merit because basically these two things are completely different. Knowledge will only help you get merit if you have the desire to apply it in a post. People may say that they don't care about merit or rank, but honestly they know how the merit and rank system works so without thinking about it they can get merit and rank up.
3051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: December 14, 2021, 11:27:31 AM
An interesting statement came from Sergio Ramos. Continuing his career with Paris SG, Ramos announced that he will fight to the death in the Real Madrid match. The fact that he will play with such passion against his old team makes the matchup a little more exciting. How will the Spanish fans react to Sergio Ramos when Paris goes to Madrid?
If Ramos, Navas and Messi could play in that match, I think it would be better to see the reaction of the Real Madrid fans than without the involvement of the two former players. This is not a friendly match, but their professionalism is required to beat all their opponents without exception if it is their former team.

I would like to see the collaboration of Navas, Ramos and Messi to beat Real Madrid in the next two Champions League leg, if PSG really manage to beat Real Madrid then as a fan you shouldn't take it as a betrayal either. LOL
3052  Economy / Services / Re: [Full][Signature Campaign] Crosswise Finance | Legendary & Hero |$85 Per Week on: December 11, 2021, 09:07:13 PM
If on Monday, if they won't pay me - please go their telegram and do inquire about this: https://t.me/crosswise
Hi irfan_pak10, sorry in advance. As a campaign operator, you're also likely to be responsible for pushing the team to pay participant who have been promoting their project flawlessly during the week. Instead of letting all participant ask the team direct questions about payments, it's better if you as a DT can create a thread about refuse payment if the team violates the contract you have agreed on regarding participant payments. It is also related to the reputation of the project in the future.

I have nothing to do with this campaign and this is just my suggestion. There are 60 participant promoting this campaign based on a spreadsheet, so maybe the team will take its reputation into account as well.
3053  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] Rollbit.com | Signature Campaign | Full Members+ ~ Earn up to $80/Week! on: December 11, 2021, 08:53:57 PM
~Snip
Wait a few hours from now before you submit this application even though you seem to know that the campaign will have an empty slot. Your method will not increase your chances of being accepted, as in most cases you will have to register again after Hhampuz announces the opening of the slot.
3054  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Untuk Newbie] Alasan Untuk Tidak Trading Uang Pinjam on: December 11, 2021, 05:47:42 PM
Begitulah pasar crypto bekerja, tidak semua yang diharapkan bisa semulus jalan tol. Resiko ini sudah menjadi rahasia umum, anehnya masih ada newbie yang berani trading tanpa melakukan bergaimacam riset yang diperlukan.
Berita dari media sosial seperti twitter, instagram atau informasi dari Influencer dianggap cukup meyakinkan, sehingga mendorong newbie nekat melakukan perdagangan dengan sumber uang hasil pinjaman dengan harapan dapat untung besar. Mindset ini yang harus dirubah newbie untuk menghindari penyesalan ketika kenyataan tidak sesuai dengan harapan.
Nafsu itu namanya gan. Tapi ane tidak berpikir itu adalah cara yang salah jika dilakukan dengan cara yang benar.
Jika newbie bisa memanfaatkan kondisi market dengan benar maka mereka juga bisa menghasilkan keuntungan yang bagus pada trading. Maksud ane adalah mereka bersedia membeli aset crypto pada dip (saat koreksi) dan hold asetnya hingga mereka mendapatkan keuntungan. Ini sedang jadi kebiasaan trader sekarang gan baik newbie atau berpengalaman, tapi kalau dengan uang pinjaman ane rasa resikonya juga mungkin akan lebih besar karena peminjam pastinya akan was-was tentang fluktuasi harganya.
3055  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Signature campaigns and taxation. on: December 11, 2021, 05:16:32 PM
If I'm not mistaken it looks like this issue was also discussed in my local board but I forgot who posted it. I don't have to pay taxes on signature campaign revenue and I don't think this is a reasonable amount to report to the government. I know that my country has rules regarding taxes, but so far the legality of crypto is only limited to commodity assets where the government will only target taxes from investors and traders with high amount of assets.

However we will probably know about the tax rules will be different in each country. While at the moment my country does not yet have clear rules regarding the taxation of crypto income although on several occasions I have read the discourse from the news. But I believe the government has set taxes that must be paid by every exchange that runs its service in my country, so the case may be different for crypto users themselves.
3056  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: December 11, 2021, 05:00:44 PM
Brentford vs Watford 2-1
Manchester City vs Wolves 1-0
Liverpool vs Aston Villa 1-0
Chelsea vs Leeds United 3-2
Arsenal vs Southampton 3-0


By the way, Chelsea were really lucky to be awarded a second penalty before the match ended and it was the last goal that saw them win over Leeds United. 4 match in week 16 won by the home team. Will be curious about Manchester United, will they lose at home to Norwich? If that's the case, then I really need to see my friend to say something to her. LOL
3057  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: December 11, 2021, 04:10:05 PM
PSG's current performance can't be said to be perfect even though they have lots of players who can be called avengers but their performance is still lacking with this list of players labeled as stars.
even this season I doubt they can contribute much to UCL if they can't reduce their ego because in some games I see that they are more concerned with ego than teamwork.
They have to reduce this attitude and in terms of coaching it looks like Poche should try to make new strategies because their tactics and strategies are very easy to read
PSG have a number of star-labeled players in their team but the performance they have produced doesn't seem extraordinary, I think it's true. The ego between players may be the reason why their form is not improving, but I think there are other problems that I think Pochettino needs to solve and one of them is the rotation of the midfielders. I don't know which player should fill this position on a regular basis in every game, but rotation is needed I think.

Messi and Mbappe seem to be getting along and supporting each other, so this will open up more opportunities for the team to win the match. Mbappe should be able to interact with Messi more, but he still needs a lot of time even though at some point Messi can help him get individual awards as the best player in the future. In the Champions League they both scored 2 goals in the last group stage match, and Mbappe provided a good assist for Messi.
3058  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: December 11, 2021, 03:46:22 PM
Manchester City won, that's a good thing. It doesn't matter how they score because the important thing is that they got the full points today. I was really excited during the match because Manchester City should have scored more than 1 goal against Wolves but unfortunately they were just unlucky.

Chelsea 0 - 1 Leeds United

chelsea is already losing, indeed betting on chelsea has become dangerous like betting on manchester united games in the past. Chelsea can lose in this game and from what I see it won't be so difficult for that to happen
But now it's 1-1. I'm not worried about Chelsea, they will win this match. I'm sure the second half Chelsea will lead with a few more goals, but the first half is coming to an end.
3059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to Hit $150,000 in 2022 on: December 11, 2021, 12:10:22 PM
Well take the event that played out in the Bitcoin price between April to November this year, who could have thought Bitcoin will rise to its time high twice within a year, I know how volatile and unpredictable Bitcoin price could be but the fact remains that the coming year is going to make a big difference.
I know about it, but we all don't know what's really going to happen next year. But without ignoring the fact that I haven't seen ATH for bitcoin price in an even year since 2018. So I'm sure this scenario will stay the same for 2022, but I also can't say that in 2022 the price will dump below $30K. We've seen dump of more than 50% before after ATH, so wouldn't be surprised to see it drop next year.
3060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to Hit $150,000 in 2022 on: December 11, 2021, 06:04:03 AM
OP, did you know that kind of analysis is actually quite wild?

Estimating the price of 3x the previous ATH price, I think it would be very unreasonable if the support of institutional investors and retail traders did not want that. What keeps the price going is the high demand that is always possible when institutional investors announce their big investments in bitcoin. The massive hype that occurred throughout 2020 and 2021 was due to increased demand where inflation did not really affect it. It's clear that some of the investors use bitcoin as a hedge, but some of them just expect a fair profit.

There's always a possibility between pumping and dumping, so we should be somewhere between the two the whole time.
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