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3041  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 04, 2014, 06:13:14 PM
Hey any chance that you might consider adding spreads to the MLB games where you offer live betting? Or just spreads overall seems like only RL is offered now.

Thanks for your suggestion.

We do offer spreads before the game but not very often during the game.

We will look into increasing coverage in the future.
Lines still have a long ways to go. Det/NYY RL right now prior to the first pitch -370/162. It's by far the worst odds of any sports book and you have the least amount of betting options. You should look at other books and the offers that they are making instead of cloning limited lines and adding lots of juice.

edit- Just saw that Cin/Cle RL is -476/+245. This is before the game starts. There should be a law against this type of hold.

Yikes. SF/Mets the live betting total over -666/+215 under. With the lines that you are putting out the NVL is- 273 and you have -666. Guess the theoretical hold on that line?
3042  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
This post was made approximately 30 minutes ago. It looks like another poster has left DirectBet.

Moneygod
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Its very bad every time when I have to do some big you down now I need to do some other option for this good luck for you and your site


Here are previous posts today

Gowno
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Down again?

Gamersbitcoin
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this site  have a positive point . always down and slow load .
just patience and take  a time.

Ateberek
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site gives the error can not be opened.
3043  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 04:07:21 PM
DirectBet- Bitcoinlivebets was predicted to go under and a short time later, they went under. DirectBet was then predicted to be the next book to go under, rated "C-" or higher, and you started a smear campaign.

You are new to bookmaking and didn't even understand the difference between "action" and "listed" bets in MLB until recently. Your book has the most individual complaints out of any book. The down time in the last few days has to be frustrating to players.
3044  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
DirectBet- You should spend more time on your book instead of making false allegations. The player complaints continue to mount and your site is down again. You should really do something about holding bets and not allowing us to cancel. There have been many complaints of you holding bets and this is the latest. Being new to bookmaking isn't an excuse for holding bets 20 minutes or more allowing you to get a better read on the game before accepting the bet.

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Can you explain why sometimes it takes forever to say you received the bet?  It's very frustrating with live betting.  Blockchain recorded my bet at 6:25, but it still hasn't been confirmed or assigned odds 7 minutes later.  So much can change in 7 minutes and sometimes you are instant, some times you arent?

https://blockchain.info/address/1GcLd4gthgVApX8uqxZz1dyjFW98cnBqgR/

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10 minutes still not confirmed.  http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1GcLd4gthgVApX8uqxZz1dyjFW98cnBqgR/  Are you just going to wait to see how the match goes before you confirm?

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20 minutes this is ridiculous.  The match will be decided before the bet gets processed and there is no way for me to cancel out.  I just have to accept whatever you give me when you decide to accept the bet?  This is unnacceptable :-/
3045  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 04, 2014, 03:45:07 PM
Anyone with recent experiences with SBOBitcoin.com?

I was using them steadily for months with no problems (other than one time they were offline and out of touch for hours).

Haven't used them for about 6 weeks, but expect to have more use for them shortly.
No complaints have come in on SBOBitcoin.
3046  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 03:38:04 PM
BitCoinPokerBro- I brought this quote to the ratings guide.

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Top 3


1. NitrogenSPorts https://nitrogensports.eu/r/73944
Awesome promo's every month, best moneylines in town, shareable betslips for those extra awesome wins. Example of sharable betslip https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/5f4446fY0lLM2ZiWS9xQ1l2UTRKUHY3K21UUT09/r/73944/

2. Betcoin Sportsbook/Casino/Poker http://www.betcoinpartners.com/c/1/1364
Much wider range of betting options than most BTC books. A few examples would be to score, both teams to score, asian handicap, over/under from 0.5 to 7.5, double chance and many more. Betcoin also has live dealer casino games for which I unfortunately can not provide a review due to ip restrictions. Should be up to par maybe even better than other BTC live dealer options though.
Decent bonus unlocked in intervals of BTC.01

3. CloudBet - https://www.cloudbet.com/en/?af_token=fcadb2e010eefc883d33cd8ad8792cb4
Cloudbet has similar sportsbetting options to betcoin and casino games blackjack, lottery, dice, roulette, all with live dealers. Personally I enjoy live lottery/dice and roulette quite fun indeed. Plus great progressive jackpot slots
Decent Bonus unlocked in intervals BTC.01

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.40
3047  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 03:34:58 PM


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0



How long a sports book has been operating should be one factor in choosing where to bet but it should NOT be the only factor to consider! For example one of the older books might not offer a certain type of bet you like or maybe the odds are not as good at one or another. All of this and more should be considered when choosing where to bet.

Each of the 3 sportsbooks in my cig have reliably paid me each every withdrawal without issue. All of which I would rate as A+ books.

General reasons for why I choose each book

Nitrogen - Has the best moneylines more often than not vs all the other btc books. https://nitrogensports.eu/r/73944

Betcoin - Has tons of football matches to bet on live in game every day. http://www.betcoinpartners.com/c/1/1364

Cloudbet - I enjoy gambling on live dealer roulette and DragonTiger. https://www.cloudbet.com/en/?af_token=fcadb2e010eefc883d33cd8ad8792cb4


I liked a similar post that you made a couple of days ago and quoted it in the ratings thread. How long a book has been in existence is not the only factor. Since the bitcoin books are fairly new and with a large percentage of books opened less than a year going under, it is more important at this time. In another year or two, time in business will be irrelevant. Books that hit the 2 year period will be treated the same as far as time in business.

The books that you have listed are ranked 2,3,5 in the rating guide. Both opinions seem similar. Stop in the ratings thread when you have a chance and post your opinions. It would be appreciated by all.
3048  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 11:41:04 PM
If you are going to require two listed pitchers, then both have to be listed on the bet slip. Do you plan on fixing this?

Thanks for your suggestion.

Although our rule was clearly stated and followed, we understand your concern and therefore per your suggestion we are now displaying both starting pitchers in the bet slip.

In regards to one of our clients who was confused about the rule, we did end up paying him off the other day as if he had won the bet.

We are not aware of any other client that was confused by this in the past.

Thanks again for bringing this to our attention, please do let us know if you have any more suggestions.
Are you a two man shop? One guy with common sense and the other just throws out false accusations? The other suggestions are look at your rules again to clean up the mistakes and only have the guy with common sense post. GL
3049  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 03, 2014, 10:12:05 PM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F


NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

3050  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 08:28:30 PM
Here's a real life example in the LAD/LAA game. Greinke is -123/+113 over Richards. The screen goes black on the Don Best screen. Greinke is scratched. You still have ML Greinke/Richards. A player orders LAA +113 Richards, the other pitcher no longer shows up on your system. The Don Best screen starts putting up new numbers to a new pitcher for LAD.

The player jumps through hoops at DirectBet getting the bitcoin address , copy/pasting it to his wallet, sending it to DirectBet and waiting for confirmation. Finally it comes back LAA +113 Richards Accepted. The pitcher for the Dodgers isn't listed. The player may even get +116 Richards since your system allows better odds. Now the player is really in the dark.

Who does the player have on the other side. Grienke or the new pitcher? Your rules say both pitchers must be listed. How does he know which one he has since it's not on the slip? Does he take your word after it goes final?

There may not even be a line change with the new pitcher but the player still needs to know if he has a bet.
3051  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
DirectBet- I'm not trying to pick on you here, but a lot of your rules are wrong unless you want to be unique. At a quick first glance of American sports, get rid of the 3 day rules with many sports. Your baseball rules are wrong if you want to go by Vegas and Offshore rules with postponed games. Why are you refusing to change listed pitcher? The pitcher can change between the time the ML is listed and the time the bet is placed. The player must know the listed pitchers on his bet slip. You can't tell him after the game goes final.

You're new to this but when you get more than 30 players in your book, players make baseball bets when they see pitching changes. They try to beat the book to the change with action bets when lines are fixed at their book. Some books do it that way. If you ever expand, a high percentage of your bets will be at this time since it reads action on one side, fixed odds with firm bets. It's critical for you to post the pitchers if both are listed. Players want to know if they have a bet before it goes final.
3052  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 05:45:02 PM
DirectBet, I noticed that you haven't fixed your bet slips yet. If you are going to require two listed pitchers, then both have to be listed on the bet slip. Do you plan on fixing this? The way this bet is graded, according to every other bookmaker in the world, is that Shields must start for KC and the other pitcher doesn't matter.

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Event : KC @ OAK

Start Time : 08/03/2014 15:05

Competition : MLB 2014

Bet Type : Moneyline (Listed)

Your Selection : Kansas City (J Shields) @ +142
3053  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 03, 2014, 12:17:38 PM
Posters- Feel free to post book reviews similar to BitCoinPokerBro's reviews. Thanks
3054  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 03, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
John Barnes on Anonibet's live betting
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Dear jjc326

We do offer  lots of tennis and soccer matches daily. For example today, we have more than 90 games that we will cover in our Live Bet section. We also offer sports like basketball,volleyball, handball and hockey. Our Live betting is true live betting against the house. Anonibet still uses mBTC units although some customers would prefer BTC, the majority of our customers prefer mBTC.

Regards,

John

jjc326
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Wow I just checked out the live betting section and it looks relatively good to anything I've seen on a BTC gaming site. I remember I checked it out when you first started and it didn't impress me but it's definitely grown a lot!  So I'll be trying it out soon.

Any timeline or thoughts on adding MLB?  It is basically the only major sport going on right now in the US. Thanks.

If you guys know of other books with lots of live betting, post away.
3055  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 03, 2014, 12:10:10 PM
BitCoinPokerBro
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Top 3


1. NitrogenSPorts https://nitrogensports.eu/r/73944
Awesome promo's every month, best moneylines in town, shareable betslips for those extra awesome wins. Example of sharable betslip https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/5f4446fY0lLM2ZiWS9xQ1l2UTRKUHY3K21UUT09/r/73944/

2. Betcoin Sportsbook/Casino/Poker http://www.betcoinpartners.com/c/1/1364
Much wider range of betting options than most BTC books. A few examples would be to score, both teams to score, asian handicap, over/under from 0.5 to 7.5, double chance and many more. Betcoin also has live dealer casino games for which I unfortunately can not provide a review due to ip restrictions. Should be up to par maybe even better than other BTC live dealer options though.
Decent bonus unlocked in intervals of BTC.01

3. CloudBet - https://www.cloudbet.com/en/?af_token=fcadb2e010eefc883d33cd8ad8792cb4
Cloudbet has similar sportsbetting options to betcoin and casino games blackjack, lottery, dice, roulette, all with live dealers. Personally I enjoy live lottery/dice and roulette quite fun indeed. Plus great progressive jackpot slots
Decent Bonus unlocked in intervals BTC.01
3056  Economy / Gambling / Re: the best site sportbook?? on: August 03, 2014, 11:58:36 AM
Top 3


1. NitrogenSPorts https://nitrogensports.eu/r/73944
Awesome promo's every month, best moneylines in town, shareable betslips for those extra awesome wins. Example of sharable betslip https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/5f4446fY0lLM2ZiWS9xQ1l2UTRKUHY3K21UUT09/r/73944/

2. Betcoin Sportsbook/Casino/Poker http://www.betcoinpartners.com/c/1/1364
Much wider range of betting options than most BTC books. A few examples would be to score, both teams to score, asian handicap, over/under from 0.5 to 7.5, double chance and many more. Betcoin also has live dealer casino games for which I unfortunately can not provide a review due to ip restrictions. Should be up to par maybe even better than other BTC live dealer options though.
Decent bonus unlocked in intervals of BTC.01

3. CloudBet - https://www.cloudbet.com/en/?af_token=fcadb2e010eefc883d33cd8ad8792cb4
Cloudbet has similar sportsbetting options to betcoin and casino games blackjack, lottery, dice, roulette, all with live dealers. Personally I enjoy live lottery/dice and roulette quite fun indeed. Plus great progressive jackpot slots
Decent Bonus unlocked in intervals BTC.01


This is a great post. Time permitting, it would be great if you brought some of these reviews over here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 so that we can all see. This also goes to anyone else that would like to post book reviews. Thanks
3057  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 03:44:33 AM
Why can't you just answer simple questions?  The limits are 1 BTC in all the MLB games. You have the worst odds of all books and may even have the lowest limits.

What other book offers live MLB?

I noticed if you refresh the page a couple of times the BTC limit goes up..
I don't see any other BTC books up with live MLB.
3058  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 03:43:58 AM
DirectBet, for all the books that have MLB lines up, you have the worst odds. Please show me a book that has worse odds.

Some books don't put up overnights for baseball. If you were in the gambling business longer, you would know this.
3059  Economy / Gambling / Re: Live betting? on: August 03, 2014, 03:20:31 AM
I've been playing on nitrogensports and they say they have live betting...well they do it's an exchange and I never see many available bets on there.

Can anyone recommend a good live betting BTC site?  I know about directbet, I'd prefer something more normal where you can keep your balance there and bet live on a lot of sports. Thanks.
Anonibet has the best live betting for soccer and tennis. After that it's Betcoinsports, Cloudbet and BetVIP.
3060  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 02:58:46 AM
Why can't you just answer simple questions?  The limits are 1 BTC in all the MLB games. You have the worst odds of all books and may even have the lowest limits.
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