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3041  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 06, 2014, 01:06:40 AM
DirectBet
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No, this is the standard default rule across our Sportsbook and we do not plan to change it.


Did you have any prior gambling experience prior to opening? You think that other books hold bets for 3 days in baseball? Rules from other books:

predictem
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Baseball betting rules are pretty standard both in Las Vegas and offshore............Official Game: A baseball (side) bet becomes official for betting purposes after 5 innings of play or 4.5 innings if the home team has the lead. Should a game be suspended, the winning side is determined by the score after the last full inning

BetUS
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If a game is 'called', or suspended, winners and losers for betting are official after at least 5 full innings of play unless the home team is leading after 4½ innings. If a game is 'called', or suspended etc, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning (unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called). Please note that suspended games do not carry over for wagering purposes.

TheGreek
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If a game is cancelled or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning (unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called).

BetUSA
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Major League Baseball games are official after 5 innings of play, or 4½ innings if the home team is leading.  If a game is subsequently called or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning unless the home team ties the score or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning in which the game was suspended.

BetMania
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If a game is annulled or postponed, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning that is unless the home team scores to a run to tie the game, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning. In this case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called official.

Bookmaker
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Winners and Losers are official after 5 innings of play unless the home team is leading after 4½ innings. If a game is called or suspended, the score after the last full inning determines the winner.

Lasvegassportsbetting
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Baseball
A baseball game becomes official for moneyline wagering purposes after 4 1/2 innings if home team is winning, or 5 innings if visiting team is winning.
If a game is cancelled or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning (unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called).
3042  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 05, 2014, 11:57:01 PM
El Grego asked this question if anyone wants to answer
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Are there any bitcoin books that have NCAAFB props? I'm specifically looking for teams total wins O/U.
3043  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 11:45:24 PM

I understand that some of the problems with bets being held aren't your fault most of the time even if unfair to the player, but there are many mistakes in the rules that you may want to change.

DirectBet rules
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If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed and an official result is not declared within three days of the scheduled start date, all bets will be void, except for those which have been unconditionally determined.


Look at MLB official rule book, rule 4.12
It is possible for games to begin, be suspended and resumed at a later date (all stats remain).
For wagering purposes all bets are settled the same. Vegas and offshore all settle same day.

I'd love to get back to Vegas.
Not even to gamble, just go with a few buddies and not have to deal with clients or work for a week or so.
What a dream...
I love it there. I spend a lot of the NFL season and all of March Madness in Vegas. The lines are better for my way of betting.
3044  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 11:38:48 PM
DirectBet- Do you plan on changing the 3 day rule for American sports? This is book making 101. It's mind boggling that a bookmaker is confused by simple rules. You don't just throw up a site without understanding gambling and make it in this business.
3045  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 05, 2014, 10:10:01 PM
New site http://finalstake.com/. Very small site that is only taking NFL parlays at this time.
3046  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 05, 2014, 09:10:40 PM
Has anyone played with the NR books? It's time for some initial ratings.

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake
3047  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 04:15:21 PM
I don't know how you can totally hate on or bash Directbet frankly...see they don't even have deposits there so if they "closed down" they wouldn't be "running away with bitcoin" like so many others have.  
I could be wrong but it's my feeling that they will run with the money during the Super Bowl. Players will have a lot of money tied up in props and live wagering. Bitcoinlivebets did it after the World Cup. The link in my signature talks about books running after the World Cup and Super Bowl.

As far as a rating, do you thing it's justifiable for DirectBet to have a high rating? Input is needed for all of the books. I never bash a person's opinion as long as they don't throw out false allegations. Thanks
3048  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 03:56:37 PM
DirectBet rules
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If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed and an official result is not declared within three days of the scheduled start date, all bets will be void, except for those which have been unconditionally determined.


That's not a mistake. Our standard rule for all bets is 3 days. If however we receive confirmation earlier that the match will not be resumed \ replayed we will void bets and issue refunds to our clients immediately.

 Single game bets do not carry over in baseball during the regular season. You can't hold the money 3 days. No one else does.

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............If a game is called or suspended after 5 innings, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning of play ...........
http://www.5dimes.eu/sb_rules.html
3049  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
Hey guys, I think we finally figured out the mysterious criteria Peeps Place is using to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks.

Rating is based on the monthly payment he is receiving from the books :


A lot
Bitcoin or two
Change at most
Don't Pay
Failed to pay and now it's too late !  Wink


That makes sense. Looking at Peeps posts, it's like he's also getting paid to bash books that don't pay.

Like their lines or not, DirectBet is the best for live betting. No other book that offers all the betting options they do... sometimes the odds are not great but I've gotten a couple good ones before.
Please post the books that I bash. The books that I've bashed have all gone under. The only book that I currently bash is DirectBet. If you question the ratings, then it's appreciated why they are questioned. Poster input warrants changes and I take all input seriously. Do you feel any changes should be made?

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F


NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
3050  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 03:52:06 PM

I understand that some of the problems with bets being held aren't your fault most of the time even if unfair to the player, but there are many mistakes in the rules that you may want to change.

DirectBet rules
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If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed and an official result is not declared within three days of the scheduled start date, all bets will be void, except for those which have been unconditionally determined.


Look at MLB official rule book, rule 4.12
It is possible for games to begin, be suspended and resumed at a later date (all stats remain).
For wagering purposes all bets are settled the same day. Vegas and offshore all settle same day.
3051  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 03:24:20 AM
We don't criticize good books. We've done a good job at calling out scam books. Those called out go under. DirectBet has been predicted to be the next in line to go under. Here are quotes for those that went under.

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The only thing keeping StakeBTC from being a "F", because of that bonus, is that they haven't had one complaint as far as payouts.

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I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.

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I'm not going to put Coinbet on our recommended list at this time.

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BitBook C (Problems from DDoS attack. Do not deposit at this time

The only reason that I'm posting here is for the constant stalking done by DirectBet. He's been in EVERY thread that I post.
3052  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 05, 2014, 02:47:04 AM
Here are some things in our thread for books that have gone under. It's not good for the bitcoin community and in no way do I want this to happen, but DirectBet is the next book predicted to go under. There are many reasons and if anyone wants I can post them.

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The only thing keeping StakeBTC from being a "F", because of that bonus, is that they haven't had one complaint as far as payouts.

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I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.

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I'm not going to put Coinbet on our recommended list at this time.

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BitBook C (Problems from DDoS attack. Do not deposit at this time

3053  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 05, 2014, 02:31:35 AM
The ratings in the rating guide may not be perfect but with help from the posters in the thread we called out some scam books before going under. The last was bitcoinlivebets where it was predicted that it would be the next book to go under. It was posted that DirectBet would be the next book to go under for books rated "C-" and above.

This has angered DirectBet and the herd of followers. Be careful of new posters backing DirectBet as well as posters such as the one above that posts solely about DirectBert. These new posters have been used to taint ratings in another user generated poll.

DirectBet was the 9th rated book in the user generated poll until a herd of new users started giving top ratings to DirectBet with their vote. Not only that, but many then gave low ratings to the top books to bring their overall rating down.

None of the top rated books in our thread have gone under but the bottom rated books continue to go under.
3054  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 05, 2014, 01:35:30 AM
Hey Peep - Feel free to remove this if necessary, but we're looking to get max exposure on our upcoming Survivor Pool on CasinoBitco.in.

We did this last year with around 200 users, and even pair out over $4,000 to the winner in the FREE pool (due to the gigantic rise of BTC / USD price).

Check them out here!

https://casinobitco.in/suicide-pool

•   The object of the Survivor pool is to be the last active player
•   In order to accomplish this goal, a user must correctly pick the winner of one NFL football game each week
•   Each user can only pick each NFL football team once during the season
•   If a correct selection is made, the user will remain active for the following week
•   One (1) incorrect selections (loss) and that user will be eliminated
•   No point spreads are used.  The team just has to win
•   The last user remaining wins the entire pool!
I'm glad you posted it. This is a fun contest and I was in it last year.

Casinobitcoin has three different pools. One is free, one costs .05 BTC and the other .10 BTC. I'll be in all 3 pools picking different teams so I don't get knocked out all in one week.
3055  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 05, 2014, 12:04:49 AM
A game being postponed has nothing to do with ML wagers as long as it goes 5 innings, 4.5 if the home team is ahead. It only pertains to the total and run line. Games are settled that day for wagering purposes. They aren't prolonged 3 days. The rules in playoff MLB differ book to book, but not the regular season.

I understand that some of the problems with bets being held aren't your fault most of the time even if unfair to the player, but there are many mistakes in the rules that you may want to change.

DirectBet rules
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If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed and an official result is not declared within three days of the scheduled start date, all bets will be void, except for those which have been unconditionally determined.
3056  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 04, 2014, 06:13:14 PM
Hey any chance that you might consider adding spreads to the MLB games where you offer live betting? Or just spreads overall seems like only RL is offered now.

Thanks for your suggestion.

We do offer spreads before the game but not very often during the game.

We will look into increasing coverage in the future.
Lines still have a long ways to go. Det/NYY RL right now prior to the first pitch -370/162. It's by far the worst odds of any sports book and you have the least amount of betting options. You should look at other books and the offers that they are making instead of cloning limited lines and adding lots of juice.

edit- Just saw that Cin/Cle RL is -476/+245. This is before the game starts. There should be a law against this type of hold.

Yikes. SF/Mets the live betting total over -666/+215 under. With the lines that you are putting out the NVL is- 273 and you have -666. Guess the theoretical hold on that line?
3057  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
This post was made approximately 30 minutes ago. It looks like another poster has left DirectBet.

Moneygod
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Its very bad every time when I have to do some big you down now I need to do some other option for this good luck for you and your site


Here are previous posts today

Gowno
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Down again?

Gamersbitcoin
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this site  have a positive point . always down and slow load .
just patience and take  a time.

Ateberek
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site gives the error can not be opened.
3058  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 04:07:21 PM
DirectBet- Bitcoinlivebets was predicted to go under and a short time later, they went under. DirectBet was then predicted to be the next book to go under, rated "C-" or higher, and you started a smear campaign.

You are new to bookmaking and didn't even understand the difference between "action" and "listed" bets in MLB until recently. Your book has the most individual complaints out of any book. The down time in the last few days has to be frustrating to players.
3059  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
DirectBet- You should spend more time on your book instead of making false allegations. The player complaints continue to mount and your site is down again. You should really do something about holding bets and not allowing us to cancel. There have been many complaints of you holding bets and this is the latest. Being new to bookmaking isn't an excuse for holding bets 20 minutes or more allowing you to get a better read on the game before accepting the bet.

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Can you explain why sometimes it takes forever to say you received the bet?  It's very frustrating with live betting.  Blockchain recorded my bet at 6:25, but it still hasn't been confirmed or assigned odds 7 minutes later.  So much can change in 7 minutes and sometimes you are instant, some times you arent?

https://blockchain.info/address/1GcLd4gthgVApX8uqxZz1dyjFW98cnBqgR/

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10 minutes still not confirmed.  http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1GcLd4gthgVApX8uqxZz1dyjFW98cnBqgR/  Are you just going to wait to see how the match goes before you confirm?

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20 minutes this is ridiculous.  The match will be decided before the bet gets processed and there is no way for me to cancel out.  I just have to accept whatever you give me when you decide to accept the bet?  This is unnacceptable :-/
3060  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 04, 2014, 03:45:07 PM
Anyone with recent experiences with SBOBitcoin.com?

I was using them steadily for months with no problems (other than one time they were offline and out of touch for hours).

Haven't used them for about 6 weeks, but expect to have more use for them shortly.
No complaints have come in on SBOBitcoin.
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