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3061  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much do you tihnk BTC will be worth after this? on: June 03, 2017, 05:28:41 AM
I believe that the price will grow high and randomly cause a big adoption from people all around the world. Possibly it would make the price prediction of most experts come to reality. So it's good to make a investment into it as much possible to profit big and be one among the elite member with the earning of bitcoin.
3062  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: June 03, 2017, 03:42:28 AM
Investment was much better than savings of bitcoin, because if you invest your bitcoin they had a high possibility that it was earn income but if you save it your bitcoin will still remain value and you was not earn additional income.
Of course investing will be good results because your money will grow and grow, but you must have a good plan. Because investment also has risks. You have to be careful

Correct, it's better to invest it than just save it, but we need to be careful in investing our money so as not to get scam. If in doubt to invest better save your money.
Just save our money will never be involved the more risk rather than invest our money in the project, But this time a lot of investors look madness to invest on the ico. I mean they try to flip their money to get another profit.
In the promotional sources itself it's quoted that investment were risk involved to the market fluctuations, please be clear with the market terms and conditions. But we cannot profit big through saving for which investment is a must. With bitcoin investment is very much risky as there is very small trusted​investment services, whereas others rolling around are just scam with multiplying the investment in a short which is not at all possible by any means.
3063  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin die soon? on: June 03, 2017, 01:45:29 AM
This is really the problem of blockchain too long to confirm the transactions. I hope they will fixed this as many users are complaining. Mine took 1week to confirm the transactions. I hope they will solved this issues. Needs improvement of bitcoin transactions.
When the usage increases the complications too will increase along side. What makes it good is the support from the development end. Everytime similar situation happens due to increased transaction by the time of price increase. Other times confirmation won't be a big issue. Users need to spend the fee structured by the wallet service, so that can get faster confirmation.
3064  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian's own Bitcoin - What will be the impact to the original Bitcoin? on: June 02, 2017, 02:13:25 PM
This doesn't gonna big impact, because already several countries have generated their own cryptocurrency for all transactions and trading needs. As a part Russia long back itself revealed that it's gonna use bitcoin's platform for making the financial structure perfect. So in one or other way it depends on bitcoin, that too for cross border transaction they cannot use their token. So an bitcoin incorporated service can be expected from Russia.
3065  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hotels accepting bitcoin on: June 02, 2017, 01:59:25 PM
In the near future we will see the signage  " bitcoin accepted here " in our hotels.

This is not impossible to happen as Bitcoin will be very known as time goes by. Many people will be using as means of purchasing things. Renting a room and buying condo units.

Nowadays, what's trending or new will adopt by somebody to make them become the first or rather will be the most trusted.

I think some hotels in part of europe are now accepting bitcoin as payment. I don't remember the name but I just see it on advertisement.
I too saw a hotel in Paris which is special for Italian cuisine with bitcoin acceptance board on a Television channel program. Hope more of the acceptance is found on the western side, while Japan and China conquering the Asian markets. Hope Singapore and Philippines too have got increased acceptance of bitcoin.
3066  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: June 02, 2017, 01:44:05 PM
Young people should go all in on bitcoin well that's good for teens for now because of high tech today and also teens are more conscious in everything as of today it is better to learn bitcoin in young age in order to success in bitcoin someday in this industry. 
Yeah that's why most users are still teenagers and young age. Because they are still excited by something new and sophisticated let alone it is profitable for them


Teenagers now were wise enough to think of work that are profotable since living now is too expensive, young now were eager to learn to provide for living especially if its something related in technology.
As it's a part of the technology, all teenagers going with bitcoin will be making the life move in a better way without complications. Also right now if a statistics is developed at least 90% has a smartphone which is more than enough to use our bitcoin. No need of carrying cards, cash, coupons, etc.
3067  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are still not in a bubble! 20k$ is INCOMING! on: June 02, 2017, 12:15:43 PM
I can't believe every single person in this topic just didn't get the main idea I stated in the OP. Maybe it was my fault, i just couldn't describe it.

Main Idea 1: The price what we have now is far from being a bubble. So it is perfectly safe to buy between 1.5k$-2.5k$range.

Main Idea 2: The recent pump (2.8k$) we had has a chance to trigger a major buy mania (take a look at the pink line again)  which will have a similar effect what we had with Gox and that bubble will have the top price of 20k$ if it happens in the next 3-4 months. This expectation is not certainty. It is a possibility.

The dude who created this assumes that bitcoin is following a pattern "bull, hype, bear," and all he does is wondering about if we will be in a hype phase again.

Main Idea 3: He already predicts that bitcoin will be at 5k$ price range in 2020 if nothing extreme happens.

Please post after you examine the graph and the notes beneath it.


1. So you are trying to say that a rise in price of 1,200% in 2 years is not a bubble? Has the intrinsic value of bitcoin risen by 1,200%? (hint: the answer is no) As a result, this is indisputably a bubble. It is absolutely not "safe" to buy bitcoin now, or really any time.

2. The recent pump to $2.8k WAS a buying mania! That was absolutely insane, billions were added and removed to the bitcoin market in a single day. That being said, there is still room for it to hit new highs before it crashes down to an appropriate and reasonable price far below where it is now.

3. This is reasonable, but it definitely will be a bumpy ride there.

That was a correction which happened from 200$ to 1k$. It did perfect safe in that timeline. 1k$ was bubble in 2013 but 2 years passed since then. What happened is a massive correction.

Again, pink line shows the max. normal price. The calculation is made by adding the time value of bitcoin. Anything over the pink line can trigger a bubble.

White line is average normal price.
That's a good explanation. What happened by the year 2013 is a bubble, because the price moves were very fast and everything got over in a very short time span. Now the correction phase and experts say it as a second wave where the first happened on 2013 and by the years to come can expect several such waves and third wave is expected to happen by the starting of 2018.
3068  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: June 02, 2017, 11:08:21 AM
My worst moment in gambling when i was playing auto bet and i did not know that i put a wrong number on lose. After that, 3/4 of my balance got wreck and my mood went bad and decided to go all in but failed. Lesson learn before you play your auto bet you must double check if you had input a correct data so you won't encounter this.

That's why I don't want to depend with auto bet once you input wrong number, you will be in depth problem. One of my worst gambling moment is when I almost got $5,000 of winnings for the whole week. But because I'm so boastful and confident that I'm not going to lose but with a single day of playing poker in real, I lose all of it.  Cry

$5k in just one week is this true? On which game you made this money? I think it is possible in slot games. If you play in slot games means maybe you used big bankroll. What is your bankroll? People will make money in skill games, but in your case, you lost money in a poker game. I think you don't have control of your emotions that is why you lost that big amount in the single game. This is really a worst and bad day in your life.

Yes, that's my problem the control of emotion because when I'm holding the money/chips already I'm being overwhelmed and confident that I won't lose any amount very soon. Well that's a lesson learned already to me and that changed my life, it's already years ago so I'm already moved on with it.
My worst moment happens with the sports betting. This takes place often, but the really worse moment takes place with tennis matches where I've never thought I'll fail. Because the player on whom I have selected the odds is just one point away from the win. But the opponent three points away. I went off with happiness I've won. But reaching back I haven't been credited with the winning. Later on thought this might be a technical error. Just for a confirmation saw the match reviews, I can't control myself rather than crying.
3069  Economy / Gambling / Re: What are you think about my gambling related idea? on: June 01, 2017, 10:55:23 AM
Each gambling house has its own house edge calculations. So far in my view what you have planned is simply a complication. Even the site you think as provably fair has got flaws. Rather than focussing on the calculations of different gambling sites try to develop a provably fair Casino and implement through a new site. You might gain popularity in a short if it works fine.
3070  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: June 01, 2017, 09:11:25 AM
My suggestion is if you can leave the game as early with your 1st win, just leave the game. Treat it as enough for this day.
Because if gets deeper you'll become more excited into it.
It can also lead you to lose more if you will not control yourself.
But that is only true if the only thing you want is to obtain profits but to be honest most people want to get fun and not only to get profits, also by following that logic what happens if you never get that first win and you keep losing? Since in your system you only leave after the first win then you will not leave until you lose your entire bankroll.
So you think the purpose of people gambling just for fun and profit is just as an extra. I think it's wrong, everyone gambles for winning but yes sometimes we do not care about winning or losing while gambling but that is not often thought of by us. Absolute when we are gamble it because we want to win.
Agreed, the absolute expectation of every gambler is a win. But in between when things go out of our prediction we give up and take it funny. The same should not get continued, because what we loss is hard to be retained. Need to set limits and participate so that can minimize the loss through gambling.
3071  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: June 01, 2017, 07:59:43 AM
They have no competition between them instead they can be a solid partnership becoz paypal is just storehouse of many currency so it's possible that bitcoin in the future will be part of it but from now they are different to make them compete with each other i can say that bitcoin is a type of money and paypal is type of wallet
Paypal is serves as an online money transfers and electronic alternative to traditional paper methods like checks etc. While Bitcoin is cryptocurrency but also serves as an electronic payment system. Therefore they are both serve as means of payment and this is the only thing which make me considered them both as the same. If Paypal didn't sign bitcoin into their system then people will use Bitcoin in the future and quit Paypal.
Both helpful in the transaction processing, but different mechanisms were used based on the development. Bitcoin stands one step ahead of PayPal due to the multiple services rendered through it starting from faucets to investment opportunity. In future we can see PayPal adding bitcoin to its transaction service to make PayPal more popular.
3072  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: TRADING IN UNCERTAIN TIMES on: June 01, 2017, 06:21:40 AM
Trading is completely uncertain. We need to be prepared enough analysing the market to make a perfect move, only then it's possible to make a better profit buying and selling the proper altcoin and other digital assets at the right time.
3073  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will BTC be at $5,000? on: May 30, 2017, 08:10:02 AM
Personally I don't think so we're going to see $5,000  Bitcoin anytime soon because currently were in a Bubble and as we have so the correction comes really quickly. Bitcoin has the ability to go up a lot in a short period of time but also goes down a lot in a similar period of time. Everything is completely unpredictable.

I would say though if a Fiat currency collapse or a stock market crash occurs, we could see bitcoin rise in value like crazy.

That is another good point. The people in this forum might be in denial that we are indeed in a bubble. That explains why they will not answer to some of my questions. It is really hard to get a real discussion here.
Bubble often takes place. Sometimes even a real growth is misinterpreted as a bubble by a group of users who have been much keen in making profit. I personally expect this to happen by the starting of 2018 and if this didn't happen at least by the year end 2018 we will experience $5000.
3074  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin hit 3500$ in 2018?  ??? on: May 30, 2017, 07:43:54 AM
$3500 is truly a possible value, because already we have got close to $2800. So it's not that far away. In no time the bitcoin price moves forward and reached $2800 from the price around $1200. So expecting a same increase to reach $3500 seems realistic and a reachable price.
3075  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price is recovering! on: May 30, 2017, 07:23:39 AM
The price has been steadily recovering after that short dip that we saw last week. This has been the trend all year and every dip from now on should just be considered as buying opportunities because the price always seems to bounce back stronger each time we see minor corrections. We might even see $3,000 earlier than expected.
Well, price recovering is always a common thing with bitcoin. Whether it's a steep dip or a small fluctuation it retains the loss. One thing the recovery might happen in a.short or else takes more time. This time the recovery has happened in a short time and hope $3000 might be reached anytime soon.
3076  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Physical Gold Bitcoin on: May 30, 2017, 07:10:33 AM
That's seems to be something a better plan to make the gold enthusiasts show attention towards the bitcoin. In reality as one of the mate suggested it won't be working effectively as we expect. Already several such platforms were available with the altcoins. Recently One Gram concept is incorporated with a altcoin and now the crowdsale is going on.
3077  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much to Trade? on: May 29, 2017, 02:42:35 PM
It's good to make trade based on the volume of bitcoin one holds. It's good to diversify in the 25:75 ratio. Because the hard earning made through trading 25% of the bitcoin can be earned in future through holding of 75% of the bitcoin from the total volume available.
3078  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is winning at Sports betting actually possible ? on: May 29, 2017, 02:26:21 PM
Of course yes. If you are good at analyzing data of each team that will play. You will have a bigger chance of winning. Many people too play sports betting because it's a live game and if you have a bet on that game. It will give you a feeling of tense when you see your team winning the game. Overall, The sports betting is a profitable game if you know how to manage well your bank roll and do some research before betting.
Yeah as stated analytical skill is much necessary to make the betting effective. Without that one can just rely on the luck for his winning. The analysis made based on the team performance and the players into the team will help predict the odds in a right way and increase the chances of winning the bet.
3079  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins dropping in price on: May 29, 2017, 02:01:04 PM
Price of bitcoin dropping is just consolidation it is very normal for price to embark   on correction mode, this is based on technical analysis of the candlestick pattern formed I am very sure the price will be bullish in few days to come meaning it will rise. Buyer should keep on buying now.
I think the price is only a temporary drop bitcoin it, will ultimately be very normal for a price correction mode, this is based on technical analysis at and I am very sure the price will be back in a few days will be increased, the buyer should determine to continue to buy now.

The price is already going up. I think we have reached the short term bottom. The next stop is above $3000.

And what exactly would be the reason for the price to climb from $2100 to $3000?

The price correction and the segwit gaining more support from the entire miners and the other companies who hold power of manipulating the bitcoin moves is the reason for the price getting retained towards $3000 from the deep fall towards $2000 from the peak value around $2800.
3080  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: May 29, 2017, 01:49:04 PM
Gold is very popular even today many people still keep it well or trade in bond stocks. But I prefer bitcoin because its utility level is very different, gold is an immovable investment asset but has a price trend that never goes down even though its movement is very slow. Bitcoin has a dual role, other than as an investment asset, bitcoin has value as a currency with faster movement than gold. Because I'm young and full of ideas and passion, bitcoin is the top choice right now.
Gold is good for storing your wealth. having shares on gold is good as it is the best asset that the value cant be dump. we all know that gold is one of the hardest mineral on earth that is hard to mine. so it is hard de devalue
Something which has got material backing can never be devalued. At times depending on the mining difficulty and the availability the value will be varying. Bitcoin as a storage token is purely technology backed and doesn't have any central control. So price peaking and dropping happens anytime. Best is to choose upon one's own requirement of wealth.
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