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3061  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 03:38:04 PM
BitCoinPokerBro- I brought this quote to the ratings guide.

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Top 3


1. NitrogenSPorts https://nitrogensports.eu/r/73944
Awesome promo's every month, best moneylines in town, shareable betslips for those extra awesome wins. Example of sharable betslip https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/5f4446fY0lLM2ZiWS9xQ1l2UTRKUHY3K21UUT09/r/73944/

2. Betcoin Sportsbook/Casino/Poker http://www.betcoinpartners.com/c/1/1364
Much wider range of betting options than most BTC books. A few examples would be to score, both teams to score, asian handicap, over/under from 0.5 to 7.5, double chance and many more. Betcoin also has live dealer casino games for which I unfortunately can not provide a review due to ip restrictions. Should be up to par maybe even better than other BTC live dealer options though.
Decent bonus unlocked in intervals of BTC.01

3. CloudBet - https://www.cloudbet.com/en/?af_token=fcadb2e010eefc883d33cd8ad8792cb4
Cloudbet has similar sportsbetting options to betcoin and casino games blackjack, lottery, dice, roulette, all with live dealers. Personally I enjoy live lottery/dice and roulette quite fun indeed. Plus great progressive jackpot slots
Decent Bonus unlocked in intervals BTC.01

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.40
3062  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 04, 2014, 03:34:58 PM


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0



How long a sports book has been operating should be one factor in choosing where to bet but it should NOT be the only factor to consider! For example one of the older books might not offer a certain type of bet you like or maybe the odds are not as good at one or another. All of this and more should be considered when choosing where to bet.

Each of the 3 sportsbooks in my cig have reliably paid me each every withdrawal without issue. All of which I would rate as A+ books.

General reasons for why I choose each book

Nitrogen - Has the best moneylines more often than not vs all the other btc books. https://nitrogensports.eu/r/73944

Betcoin - Has tons of football matches to bet on live in game every day. http://www.betcoinpartners.com/c/1/1364

Cloudbet - I enjoy gambling on live dealer roulette and DragonTiger. https://www.cloudbet.com/en/?af_token=fcadb2e010eefc883d33cd8ad8792cb4


I liked a similar post that you made a couple of days ago and quoted it in the ratings thread. How long a book has been in existence is not the only factor. Since the bitcoin books are fairly new and with a large percentage of books opened less than a year going under, it is more important at this time. In another year or two, time in business will be irrelevant. Books that hit the 2 year period will be treated the same as far as time in business.

The books that you have listed are ranked 2,3,5 in the rating guide. Both opinions seem similar. Stop in the ratings thread when you have a chance and post your opinions. It would be appreciated by all.
3063  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 11:41:04 PM
If you are going to require two listed pitchers, then both have to be listed on the bet slip. Do you plan on fixing this?

Thanks for your suggestion.

Although our rule was clearly stated and followed, we understand your concern and therefore per your suggestion we are now displaying both starting pitchers in the bet slip.

In regards to one of our clients who was confused about the rule, we did end up paying him off the other day as if he had won the bet.

We are not aware of any other client that was confused by this in the past.

Thanks again for bringing this to our attention, please do let us know if you have any more suggestions.
Are you a two man shop? One guy with common sense and the other just throws out false accusations? The other suggestions are look at your rules again to clean up the mistakes and only have the guy with common sense post. GL
3064  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good SportsBook? on: August 03, 2014, 10:12:05 PM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F


NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

3065  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 08:28:30 PM
Here's a real life example in the LAD/LAA game. Greinke is -123/+113 over Richards. The screen goes black on the Don Best screen. Greinke is scratched. You still have ML Greinke/Richards. A player orders LAA +113 Richards, the other pitcher no longer shows up on your system. The Don Best screen starts putting up new numbers to a new pitcher for LAD.

The player jumps through hoops at DirectBet getting the bitcoin address , copy/pasting it to his wallet, sending it to DirectBet and waiting for confirmation. Finally it comes back LAA +113 Richards Accepted. The pitcher for the Dodgers isn't listed. The player may even get +116 Richards since your system allows better odds. Now the player is really in the dark.

Who does the player have on the other side. Grienke or the new pitcher? Your rules say both pitchers must be listed. How does he know which one he has since it's not on the slip? Does he take your word after it goes final?

There may not even be a line change with the new pitcher but the player still needs to know if he has a bet.
3066  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
DirectBet- I'm not trying to pick on you here, but a lot of your rules are wrong unless you want to be unique. At a quick first glance of American sports, get rid of the 3 day rules with many sports. Your baseball rules are wrong if you want to go by Vegas and Offshore rules with postponed games. Why are you refusing to change listed pitcher? The pitcher can change between the time the ML is listed and the time the bet is placed. The player must know the listed pitchers on his bet slip. You can't tell him after the game goes final.

You're new to this but when you get more than 30 players in your book, players make baseball bets when they see pitching changes. They try to beat the book to the change with action bets when lines are fixed at their book. Some books do it that way. If you ever expand, a high percentage of your bets will be at this time since it reads action on one side, fixed odds with firm bets. It's critical for you to post the pitchers if both are listed. Players want to know if they have a bet before it goes final.
3067  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 05:45:02 PM
DirectBet, I noticed that you haven't fixed your bet slips yet. If you are going to require two listed pitchers, then both have to be listed on the bet slip. Do you plan on fixing this? The way this bet is graded, according to every other bookmaker in the world, is that Shields must start for KC and the other pitcher doesn't matter.

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Event : KC @ OAK

Start Time : 08/03/2014 15:05

Competition : MLB 2014

Bet Type : Moneyline (Listed)

Your Selection : Kansas City (J Shields) @ +142
3068  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 03, 2014, 12:17:38 PM
Posters- Feel free to post book reviews similar to BitCoinPokerBro's reviews. Thanks
3069  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 03, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
John Barnes on Anonibet's live betting
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Dear jjc326

We do offer  lots of tennis and soccer matches daily. For example today, we have more than 90 games that we will cover in our Live Bet section. We also offer sports like basketball,volleyball, handball and hockey. Our Live betting is true live betting against the house. Anonibet still uses mBTC units although some customers would prefer BTC, the majority of our customers prefer mBTC.

Regards,

John

jjc326
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Wow I just checked out the live betting section and it looks relatively good to anything I've seen on a BTC gaming site. I remember I checked it out when you first started and it didn't impress me but it's definitely grown a lot!  So I'll be trying it out soon.

Any timeline or thoughts on adding MLB?  It is basically the only major sport going on right now in the US. Thanks.

If you guys know of other books with lots of live betting, post away.
3070  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 03, 2014, 12:10:10 PM
BitCoinPokerBro
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Top 3


1. NitrogenSPorts https://nitrogensports.eu/r/73944
Awesome promo's every month, best moneylines in town, shareable betslips for those extra awesome wins. Example of sharable betslip https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/5f4446fY0lLM2ZiWS9xQ1l2UTRKUHY3K21UUT09/r/73944/

2. Betcoin Sportsbook/Casino/Poker http://www.betcoinpartners.com/c/1/1364
Much wider range of betting options than most BTC books. A few examples would be to score, both teams to score, asian handicap, over/under from 0.5 to 7.5, double chance and many more. Betcoin also has live dealer casino games for which I unfortunately can not provide a review due to ip restrictions. Should be up to par maybe even better than other BTC live dealer options though.
Decent bonus unlocked in intervals of BTC.01

3. CloudBet - https://www.cloudbet.com/en/?af_token=fcadb2e010eefc883d33cd8ad8792cb4
Cloudbet has similar sportsbetting options to betcoin and casino games blackjack, lottery, dice, roulette, all with live dealers. Personally I enjoy live lottery/dice and roulette quite fun indeed. Plus great progressive jackpot slots
Decent Bonus unlocked in intervals BTC.01
3071  Economy / Gambling / Re: the best site sportbook?? on: August 03, 2014, 11:58:36 AM
Top 3


1. NitrogenSPorts https://nitrogensports.eu/r/73944
Awesome promo's every month, best moneylines in town, shareable betslips for those extra awesome wins. Example of sharable betslip https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/5f4446fY0lLM2ZiWS9xQ1l2UTRKUHY3K21UUT09/r/73944/

2. Betcoin Sportsbook/Casino/Poker http://www.betcoinpartners.com/c/1/1364
Much wider range of betting options than most BTC books. A few examples would be to score, both teams to score, asian handicap, over/under from 0.5 to 7.5, double chance and many more. Betcoin also has live dealer casino games for which I unfortunately can not provide a review due to ip restrictions. Should be up to par maybe even better than other BTC live dealer options though.
Decent bonus unlocked in intervals of BTC.01

3. CloudBet - https://www.cloudbet.com/en/?af_token=fcadb2e010eefc883d33cd8ad8792cb4
Cloudbet has similar sportsbetting options to betcoin and casino games blackjack, lottery, dice, roulette, all with live dealers. Personally I enjoy live lottery/dice and roulette quite fun indeed. Plus great progressive jackpot slots
Decent Bonus unlocked in intervals BTC.01


This is a great post. Time permitting, it would be great if you brought some of these reviews over here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 so that we can all see. This also goes to anyone else that would like to post book reviews. Thanks
3072  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 03:44:33 AM
Why can't you just answer simple questions?  The limits are 1 BTC in all the MLB games. You have the worst odds of all books and may even have the lowest limits.

What other book offers live MLB?

I noticed if you refresh the page a couple of times the BTC limit goes up..
I don't see any other BTC books up with live MLB.
3073  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 03:43:58 AM
DirectBet, for all the books that have MLB lines up, you have the worst odds. Please show me a book that has worse odds.

Some books don't put up overnights for baseball. If you were in the gambling business longer, you would know this.
3074  Economy / Gambling / Re: Live betting? on: August 03, 2014, 03:20:31 AM
I've been playing on nitrogensports and they say they have live betting...well they do it's an exchange and I never see many available bets on there.

Can anyone recommend a good live betting BTC site?  I know about directbet, I'd prefer something more normal where you can keep your balance there and bet live on a lot of sports. Thanks.
Anonibet has the best live betting for soccer and tennis. After that it's Betcoinsports, Cloudbet and BetVIP.
3075  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 02:58:46 AM
Why can't you just answer simple questions?  The limits are 1 BTC in all the MLB games. You have the worst odds of all books and may even have the lowest limits.
3076  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 01:44:05 AM
Caparello vs. Kovalev off the board Huh

I think you got the start times wrong on all the boxing and took it down.
3077  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: August 03, 2014, 01:24:28 AM
DirectBet, why have you lowered your limits drastically and cut down on your offerings. The maximum bet in baseball here pre-game is 1 BTC and other sports are much lower. There are 5 games live in baseball right now and not one game has a line other than negotiate. Your limits were once 7.8 BTC.

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Event : KC @ OAK

Start Time : 08/03/2014 15:05

Competition : MLB 2014

Bet Type : Moneyline (Listed)

Your Selection : Oakland (S Kazmir) @ -175.5


Bet Status :

No bets were received.

Send your bets now !

Please send the amount you wish to bet to the following Bitcoin address :

16PbVSWtQiZCJDCqSE6v9X3fftg3si1y**



Max Bet : 1 BTC.
3078  Economy / Gambling / Re: Anonibet Official Thread - Gold Member of Bitcoin Foundation on: August 02, 2014, 08:29:00 PM
At the risk of being called a shill, why do you guys keep posting that joelad just signed up and that he is from Anonibet? It's irresponsible to post such allegations. He won 10 BTC and posted his bitcoin address for all to see. 19kHhF2vJMktsNp9fauZ8FrAWfQAu5bZkN

registered
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April 26, 2014, 04:30:49 PM
well before the contest started.

Anonibet has been in business since 2011 and posters really think that they would pull this underhanded tactic? It seems that DirectBet just throws around false allegations that have an unjustifiable snowball effect.

3079  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 02, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F


NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
3080  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.... on: August 02, 2014, 07:40:27 PM
Changed Bitcoinvegas from "F" to not rated. They haven't been opened up long enough to give any type of rating.

It's not recommended to deposit into Bitcoinvegas but they do have a thread where you can get $10 free with a maximum cashout of $70. Early signs say stay away from this book but there's no harm in taking the freebie.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=719364.0
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