Good catch, I take that part back.

I took a pretty deep look into it once and concluded there's no real reason not to use Liquid to cheaply move around BTC. I would rather leave it in on-chain BTC form for storage purposes but Liquid is great for moving it around... just needs more exchange support (Bitfinex and one or two other exchanges currently support it).


Maybe. But then why would Samson Mow agree to advise an Ethereum shit token? His whole Twitter celebrity is based around trashing Ethereum, then he takes 100,000 shittokens to shill what turned out to be trash... goes back to unironically trashing Ethereum, basically undeterred by what just happened...  

Here's the chart of INX, the project Mow worked as "advisor" for (he's no longer listed as an advisor on the website):

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As you can see, a few months after distribution (the year after this SEC filing), there was a huge dump from which this project will never recover. Everyone who ever invested in this apparent scam is sitting on a loss.

Nobody should be taking Mow seriously. Same goes for Adam Back who unfortunately came to his defense in the matter on at least a few occasions.

They are bright people but also occasionally full of shit for the sake of furthering their own financial interest.

It was also extremely easy to link the two accounts together via ETH addresses.

sunce33 used this ETH address to send 5000 Peculium (PCL) tokens to jovan85's address on 12/30/18. It wasn't a one-time thing either, he's sent several different tokens to himself.

He's also received tokens from

pingu39 (inactive)
jootjejodel (banned)

Obviously the first two accounts are the same person and it looks like this is a long time scamming ban evader. I hate being lied to, even if it was over a year ago. This person clearly doesn't care about anything.

IMHO creating this sub board would be a smart move.

Also IMHO I don't think Bitcoin will ever really "take off" from here (granted its already had an amazing journey) without a healthy shift of tx load onto 2nd layer networks.

Several well-funded coins have already converted their mission into acting as sidechains for Ethereum, and so far its worked well for them.

If Bitcoin wants to keep scaling solutions in-house then a lot more emphasis needs to be placed on LN, which is why fostering additional focus on it isn't such a bad idea.

Coinsbit are definitely selective scammers and I would stay clear away from them. Not only do they have dozens of complaints logged in detail here but pretty much everyone all over the internet hates them...

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/coinsbit.io

They have a lot of unanswered complaints on their social media pages as well.







The scamming accusations aren't new either.





I do understand why people still use them... they are the only option when it comes to trading a lot of shit tokens. Well, that is an inherent risk in the endeavor I suppose.

He's actually a Jawa.

Some might describe their methods as "unsound." But



looking at their historical chart, we're lower now than we were a year ago... ?

I don't care about rich people getting richer on Bitcoin, or their thoughts on it for that matter.

Bitcoin is already a resounding success. So much so that there is a significant premium on transactions.


Well done. Pretty smart of this guy to claim the moon before anyone else could come up with the idea.



What will he do to protect my moonstead from space pirates, though?

This is random but it occurred to me I should post it here before I forget it.

There was one time when Lauda really helped me out, unexpectedly, and defended me when nobody else was there... I mean literally nobody else was commenting in that thread, but it meant a lot to me that they could recognize what was going on and bother to intervene.

So, that's my Lauda story, and no its not some kind of kiss-ass maneuver, its a real thing that happened one time, that I needed to be part of the record, for as long as there's a record.

ChartBuddy working his magic.

Or maybe its a combination of Proudhoun/ChartBuddy juju, only future study will tell.

$40k and up, witch doctors orders.

Bruh.... I asked you what the account name was in my first post. Your response was:


But then you said this:


He's on this thread? I do not think so mate.

I'm not accusing you of lying. Everybody who commented here so far is trying to help you out. Its hard to do that without knowing circumstances and details. Just relax for a minute and we'll see what the man himself has to say.

OK well he'll likely log in pretty soon and hopefully provide a response.


Whoever contacted allinvain is in all likelihood still a scammer that came up with a harebrained plan to extort you.

Perhaps your harassers think you are Adrian Lamo, which you clearly are not... hope they aren't actually that dumb.

After doing a bit of research, it would appear the identity of the person who claims to have stolen the coins is known, however that can all be meaningless as its based on hearsay... This person is actively involved in various cryptocurrency companies. You probably are aware of all of this.

It's an interesting story.

We (most of us) have no idea who you are and this happened 10 years ago now, so... short of changing your phone number and going to local law enforcement, I don't know what to tell you. I do hate hearing about people getting harassed by douchebags tho.

As others mentioned earlier, this sounds like a shakedown attempt by a scammer, and you don't actually have anything to worry about. Here's an important question:

You say you know allinvain IRL but how do you know the person you were communicating with is actually allinvain?

I will bring this thread to their attention.


Edit: the original crime could have been solved in 2011 as at least some of allinvain's coins were sent to a MtGOX controlled address.

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The last post in that thread is from 2011 and I'm pretty aware of what happened.

You must be referencing newer forum members. Who are they?

Tell us the names of the members from this forum that are harassing you and we will pretty much know right away if they are full of shit or not.

If they're not from this forum, there's not much we can do.

Gross. You're in the exact same boat as OP, and you've been plagiarizing since your first post.


Your list looks familiar. Oh, that's because you copied straight down the list from the table of contents for the Wikipedia History of Bitcoin article.



Why didn't you include Arbitrary blockchain content? Lol.

So actually you're in a worse boat than OP. There's no reason for you to be here. Please don't come back under a new account.

There are no transactions for $600 on either date.


There's no transactions near $600 around either of those dates that both go to the same address. There's a $613 and a $614, but neither of those addresses are yours. You wouldn't care about disclosing those addresses because they are boring: one goes to Binance and the other hasn't gone anywhere.

So nice try though, hope selling your soul was worth the 8 rubles.

Haben sie alle ihre persönlichen daten an die Livecoin betrüger weitergegeben? Warum tust du das?

Nobody believes you anyway but enjoy another red tag.

Then why are you already posting in Meta? If you're not the slightest bit interested in learning about or discussing Bitcoin, you should probably leave.

The merit system does defeat itself when it leads to the formation of threads like this one, threads that serve no purpose other than to get merit.

Your very first post is about what newbies should do to get merit.  

The jokes people play to get back into this forum...


There's only one account who has ever made this particular spelling error on the forum. This better not be who I think it is.  

They should have just combined the two cool names into one, because I don't know about you but I would definitely invest in an ICO led by someone named Maverick Conscience. He does things his way or the highway! He may be an outsider but we like his gusto.

Here I found some more Team Members™.

Tad Hole, COO


His brother, Gary Hole, CMO


Choi Pat Choi, Director of Blockchain Research


See we're legit AF.

You don't actually believe what you're typing, do you?

Now I understand your hesitancy. No, the idea is to make a team in the draft and keep it for the whole season, treating it like a real team.

Having said that, cases will arise where one of your starters will get injured, and maybe your backup has a bye week. Or maybe your backup plain sucks. In case you need a new player, you can drop an old one and pick up a new one off the waiver wire.

Its possible to rearrange your entire team every week but too many adds and drops kind of goes against the spirit of the game. Besides, most good players end up getting drafted right away, which leaves slim pickens as free agents.

Basic FF Facts For Newbs

- Each team has a max total of 16 players, so the draft will be 16 rounds long.

- There are 9 starting and 7 benched players each game. You must set your starters before gametime or they won't play that week.

- Most positions have a maximum # you can have in that position (for example, you can have a max of 3 kickers, sorry suchmoon). Check the League Settings for specifics.

- Each week, teams in the league face off against each other in head-to-head competitions. Whoever's team scores the most points in their matchup, gets a W for the week.

- "Points" in FF refers to points earned by the plays of individual players in your starting roster (and also the Defense, the 9th player).

- Different plays earn different amounts of points. For example, if a QB throws a TD pass, the QB earns 4 points + 0.04 points per passing yard, and the receiver earns 6 points + 0.1 points per receiving yard. So a 20-yard pass into the end zone would be worth a total of 18 points.

- You can also lose points as some plays are worth negative points. A fumble or interception is -2 points, a missed field goal is -1, and there are others all shown in the League Settings.

Umm... What else...

Oh, playoffs for our league start a couple weeks earlier than the NFL because it doesn't make sense to keep playing after NFL teams are eliminated.