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3061  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: December 06, 2017, 06:06:23 PM
Now I have to write something. if sonm announces something, it also comes. A new exchange is very good for the trading volume. the more volume the more people will know sonm.
sonm has once again kept the promise. that's great. I'm looking forward to more good news.
the course will know one thing the next month! up

Last chance to buy coins at this insultingly low price tbh. I've got some money in stratis, when it reaches 10$/coin next week I'm cashing out and investing it in sonm, hopefully prices will still be below 0.2$, next year at this time we'll be wondering whether or not to buy sonm at 1.5$, the year after we're asking ourselves if 5$ a coin is still a good investment
If SONM reaches $5 it'll be guaranteed to be a good investment. At least if that's a sustained sideways moving $5 and not a pump and dump. That would mean that SONM has established itself and is on the way to becoming a major tech company, which would imply a market cap in the tens if not hundreds of billions and token prices of several hundreds USD or even above $1000.
3062  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 06, 2017, 06:03:43 PM
SCAM?Huh Huh
Let's see! DeepOnion cap will reach the cap of XVG, Aeon then PIVX.
It's more of a ponzi/pyramid scheme than an outright scam.
How is there a proof in this thread for DO beeing a scam if it is not a scam? Did OP lie to us? Sad
I don't know anything about the OP. And DO isn't a scam because it doesn't sell anything that doesn't work and doesn't directly steal money. But it is definitely a ponzi with the current rules. To most people scams and ponzi mean basically the same though... so it might as well be a scam given the average English skills of this forum.
Hm I think the moderator should change at least the title of the Thread. It could also be called Deep Onion unmoderated Thread or something like that, but I think the title is missleading. Right now you can not say wether it is a scam or not, I think we all will know after the airdrop finished. Like Schroedingers scam or something. Where I come from somebody is innocent until proven guilty.
Like I said. It's per definition of the word not a scam.

But it has definitely turned into a ponzi scheme when the rules were changed.
3063  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 06, 2017, 05:48:48 PM
SCAM?Huh Huh
Let's see! DeepOnion cap will reach the cap of XVG, Aeon then PIVX.
It's more of a ponzi/pyramid scheme than an outright scam.
How is there a proof in this thread for DO beeing a scam if it is not a scam? Did OP lie to us? Sad
I don't know anything about the OP. And DO isn't a scam because it doesn't sell anything that doesn't work and doesn't directly steal money. But it is definitely a ponzi with the current rules. To most people scams and ponzi mean basically the same though... so it might as well be a scam given the average English skills of this forum.
3064  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 06, 2017, 05:46:40 PM
Hey guys,

What do you think about the dip in price? Do you think it will go down lower ?

Whats causing the price dip? people selling out huh?


It was just a pump and dump. There were rumors about "great news", but in the end it was just listing on more exchanges. The token is still useless without the AC and cards still haven't rolled out.

So the price will remain more or less stable or even go down a bit more until Singapore gets their first cards. At that point the price will pump massively again, but solely based on hype (unless the AC gets replaced).

Once people realize that the 40k cards that have been ordered won't take out anywhere close to enough coins to drop liquidity to a point where the price is forced to go up the price will start correcting downward again.
3065  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: December 06, 2017, 05:42:35 PM
this collapse of eth shows that the king is definitely bitcoin. what does ''to wait for a transfer'' for two days means? i loose money every minute. its not possible to replace this on real life instead of money. imagine that you will pay your coffee and wait for two days. just a shitty kitty game app made this collapse? funny!
Lmao. Did it get fixed yet?
3066  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Waves hold for longterm Good or Not? on: December 06, 2017, 05:41:27 PM
If you have invested bigger capital in waves then you can afford to hold it for a long term but if you are trading with a little amount then its gonna take a very long time to give you good profits.
What point are you even trying to make here? Small bets = small returns, bigger bets = bigger returns? That has nothing to do with the coin. Huh
3067  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin reaches a record level, surpassing $ 6,000 on: December 06, 2017, 05:38:07 PM
Today bitcoins already reach $11k and that is a good sign that we should hold our coins more longer because in the near future the value will further increase and there will be a guarantee that we can be all rich because of this flow in the market.
Already cracked $13k. And even Bloomberg is making the case for $400k now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-12-05/making-the-case-for-bitcoin-400-000-video
3068  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you surprise by bitcoin price now? on: December 06, 2017, 05:37:14 PM
Surprise about the current bitcoin price, of course not I would expect double in coming days.
Probably going to double before summer 2018 again.
3069  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2017, 05:35:42 PM
I dig the $400k prediction. Seems legit  Grin
Too low for McAfee's dick.
3070  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Wish I never bought altcoins on: December 06, 2017, 05:34:56 PM
Sticking to Large caps is a good option that market cap segment typically holds 80%+ of the total market share and has about 13 coins. Good user adoption and has plenty of room to grow.
Hunting low market caps and ICOs with real world applications is never a bad idea either though as part of the "venture" portfolio. There are going to be a few coins that will create a profit of x100 to x10,000 in the coming years. Just a matter of finding them early enough.
3071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 06, 2017, 05:32:03 PM
SCAM?Huh Huh
Let's see! DeepOnion cap will reach the cap of XVG, Aeon then PIVX.
It's more of a ponzi/pyramid scheme than an outright scam.
3072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【PRE-SALE】 🌟 【SOLD OUT】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: December 06, 2017, 05:31:31 PM
Hi,

Only Tokenholders, who hold more than 10,000 Lancer Tokens, for a period longer than 1 month get access to premium features of the platform.
This way we incentivize people, who are interested in the long-term success of Blocklancer. People, who are holding Lancer Tokens purely for speculative reasons and short periods of time, will not be able to use premium features. With the success of the Blocklancer platform the demand for Lancer Tokens will increase, on the other hand the supply for Lancer Tokens will decrease, because premium users will not sell their Tokens, because they would lose access to the premium features.

The premium account includes features such as:


-   Getting access to detailed profile statistics. Know, who viewed your profile and how you can optimize your profile appearance.
-   Only allow the best rated freelancers to apply for your jobs. Your job offers will be predominantly visible to the best freelancers on the platform. Freelancers with no rating or bad rating will not be allowed to apply for your jobs.
-   Your job offers will be higher ranked by our search engine.
-   Your application for a job offer will be ranked above non-premium applicants.
-   Get early access to new features.

Best regards,
The Blocklancer Team

Hi blocklancer-Team,

Thank you for the fast reply.

I like the premium account features.

And I love the intention behind it because nowadays people just invest in ICO to make money. They do not believe in the idea behind the ICO.

I will watch blocklancer closely.

Best regards,
razielnkain

Just another reason why Blocklancer is going to be wildly successful, at the very least in the long term.

Even if it'll end up overlooked and not raising the full hard cap amount, it will be a great opportunity.

In fact, as long as the team raises enough money for marketing and development, ICO investors will benefit more from less money raised, since the market cap will then multiply much higher in the future. Tongue


So no matter what happens here, it's one of the projects to keep very close tabs on.
3073  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Waves hold for longterm Good or Not? on: December 06, 2017, 05:28:10 PM
Did anyone have a doubt that Waves is a great choice in the long. A great founder. Great team. The project is awesome in all directions. A lot of new ideas and implementations Sasha is now being implemented. I think in 2018 they will bring 1000% per annum to its investors. Without a doubt. And if they make the blockchain Waves the fastest in the world in General will be a holiday and flying to the moon

I guess Waves are good enough for a long-term investment, but do not expect too much. If you want a long-term investment, you should just use Bitcoin. Waves arise when another cryptocurrency has dominated, so it will be very difficult for Waves to participate and sit in the top cryptocurrency position. Not to mention the transaction and how to dilute Waves, maybe you need to do trading and wait for buyers Waves are legit and trusted. In contrast to the top cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, and several others.
Waves isn't just great in the long-term, it's also slowly breaking out and about to pump in anticipation of the new platform. Sub $10 Waves are never going to happen again after this month.
3074  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next 5 year for Bitcoin on: December 06, 2017, 05:27:19 PM
The number of BTC is fixed and it is 21M. each transaction has to be verified by Miners in order for it to be a valid transaction. Mining is very costly process and in return Miners get a reward with BTC. The difficulty of mining is getting higher and higher. My doubt is when we reach the limit of 21M, the difficulty of mining might be very costly and what if miners are no more interested in mining. Who will be there to verify transactions. Let's say however we hit the limit of 21M and then there is nothing to mine and then who is going to verify the transaction.


If miners leave mining that is fine, then difficulty goes down and it becomes more profitable for those that still mine. That's not a problem. Also the 21M limit won't be hit for many decades.
As far as I'm aware the difficulty takes a very long time to adjust downwards, unlike the very quick upward adjustments. So miners disappearing could cause a big problem. Don't quote me on this though, as I'm not 100% certain about this.
I personally think that we should also consider the other costs of mining, e.g., electricity, cost of hardware. When it becomes harder to mine, it may also become harder for stand alone miners to survive against those who rents aircraft hangers to mine. Because at some point, it may become unreasonable for small miners to mine if it will not bring any profit to them. That's my opinion Smiley
That's why I don't recommend mining for profits to beginners or low net worth individuals.
Mining is not an easy job as other thought, you have to spend much time to learning and research about the method can mining with cheap fee for electric bill. Beside that, the price of hardware for mining is also not cheap. Especially, in my country, there are a lot of miners can not buy hardware mining because domestic supply is not enough while demand is too high, which has led to continuous increase in product value.
Yeah, mining is quite difficult for non-tech nerds. And even tech nerds don't always understand business enough to optimize the economical aspect of mining. It can be a great hedge if you know what you're doing though, but you need a lot of capital for it to be worth your time.
3075  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are We Dead Without China? on: December 06, 2017, 05:25:23 PM
China is the largest country with the largest population. They hold 20% Bitcoin. If bitcoin is banned in China, then this will not affect the market. so we do not panic, sure bitcoin will not be unstoppable.
If China actually dumped all of its Bitcoins the price could drop as much as 20% or more (if they really hold that number). But that would just mean Bitcoin discount sales.
3076  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will the world be like in 100 years on: December 06, 2017, 05:22:51 PM
Apparently scientists are fairly confident that humans can easily live to 140 years of age. So who knows. If you stay active and healthy in old age you might extend your life significantly and actually live in 100 years (unless you're already >50).

There is no hard limit to it. After 20 or 30 years, the scientists will say that the maximum possible lifespan for humans is 200 years. This is not a hard coded number and it can change. And also, some of the doctors are performing head transplants now. If that happens, then humans may be able to live for more than 300 or 400 years. Just need to change the torso every 60 or 70 years.
Oh my god I completely forgot about the head transplant that was supposed to happen this month. I assume it didn't happen yet since there were no big news. So when's the big day?
3077  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is falling, But don't worry! on: December 06, 2017, 05:22:09 PM
Uh oh, Bitcoin fell below $13,000! What a crash! Roll Eyes
3078  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2017, 05:20:57 PM
Well I bought my first ever coin for 120 then the price promptly crashed. Sad
Now it's 'worth' 100x that at 12k, but that's the steepest of discounts, because it's actually going to be worth 100x that at 1.2mil before long, and not one penny less. Tongue
Funny you'd say that, I was going to predict 1,199,999.99 USD.
3079  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin better than stocks, real-estate? on: December 06, 2017, 05:19:55 PM
In the traditional investment systems  there are areas like stock exchange, real estates, commodity market, forex market. Then there are hedge funds, mutual funds, equity, debentures. Next in line are precious metals like Gold, silver, diamond. Years after year and decades after decades when mainstream economics was convincing people that how one of above is better than other as it is giving returns in the range of 8% to 9% at max 10-13% a new revolution named bitcoin is rising and spreading across the world. Bitcoin has defied all conventional knowledge about return on interest. Surviving each negative publicity and doubts, incidents like mt. gox and still growing better than ever.

What do you think why bitcoin is the best investment than stocks, real-estate, gold or any other conventional investment?
The income that bitcoin can bring is much higher than the income from other investment assets.
That comes at the price of much higher risks though.
There is no easy way out of becoming rich, you have to take such sort of risks in your life if you do want to change your life. Bitcoin and other crypto currencies are gaining lot of attention and there are number of people which are investing a huge amount of money in this. Stocks market is going down and the money which you earn by investing in stocks is too low as compared to what you can actually get by investing in bitcoin.
The money you can earn on the stock exchange is more than enough to become rich with even a low salary within a decade. And it's much safer than crypto. That's just a fact. I'm not saying risk is bad, but you should know exactly what you're getting into. Most of my portfolio is in crypto despite the high risk involved and I've only kept enough in stocks to maintain my lifestyle via passive income no matter what happens.
3080  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2017, 05:06:19 PM
This moon shot stuff is all fine and everything....

but the acceleration is getting to me....the screaming engines...the shaking....

the manic laughter of the other BTC folk on this rocket...(jeez, don't you all bathe?)

fun but stressful...so much moon....trying not to wimp out!

(looks for NASA logo barf bag...where is it ..damn it!)

Not sure I have the balls for this 1k a day stuff....might lose my mind if it is 20k by the end of the month...

(he's dead...what's with the large grin? .....BTC Exciteditis Syndrome....extreme case...his BTC ship came in....his mind snapped ..no place to dock!



The acceleration is what makes this so damn much fun. It's very rare that you get to be part of a peaceful revolution for the better, all while being in such an intense environment and while having every chance in the world to make more money than 99.9% of the planet.

Save yourself...it is too late for me! Ack!

https://i.imgflip.com/ihebz.jpg


I will live and die with Bitcoin. Cool
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