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3061  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: November 29, 2016, 08:18:27 AM
yes it is unpredictable and it is why it is fun...
Imagine a lottery where you know in advance the winning numbers...

if you like trading i propose you to trade here:

http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net/comsell.php

what will be the comshare price in few months?
Why not trade...it's free.
3062  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: November 29, 2016, 08:13:43 AM
Investing is another good way of earning money but one should proceed with caution cause it is risky .

Definitely don't invest in Cloud mining/HYIP/PONZI or  everything that gives too high profits cause it is too good to be true .

I suggest that you should just invest in bitcoin itself.  As of now it is considered as the most less risky investment.  Bitcoin is still developing so it is volatile you can expect great things to it in the future .

You can also try investing in gambling sites or Altcoins . Just check if its legit or not .

It is not risky every where.
So far all my systems have been "no risk"
I can not understand that people here can not admit this.
why can people not say:
by winspiral it is too good but true (lol)
is it so hard to tell the truth or about truth?
is it here so hard talking about systems who have worked or who are working?
You do not help people here:
you only talk about bad systems...ok
but oftenbad and good systems are put in the same basket...
it seems people have no interest to talk about good system...

3063  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: November 28, 2016, 10:38:26 PM
So far people who have invested (for free or for satoshi) have never regreted it.

Ok...if you like risk...invest in HYIPs but it is your choice (i have definitively stoped investing in HYIPs)

But if you take people who now invest in winspiral's U2 system and reinvest earn more than people who just claim on classical faucets.(except few best faucets)
Why?
Because they can trade and profit from trade benefit.
Why is winspiral U2 system one of the best free systems you can finf on the net?
Because it is "market regulated" and "clever" people use the U2 system only if it is more profitable than other where.

U2 system offer to people daily over 20000 satoshi.
Instant profit per claim is nawadays 400 satoshi minimum...

A person has 15 seconds time to spend.
If it has not better under the hand...it claim by winspiral...
why should someone spend 15 seconds on classical faucet for 300 satoshi if he can claim 400 or more.

Winspiral is already paying for over 20 years...(yes it is so...ok not with the U2)
So people say:
why let sleep earned satoshi in BTC wallet if it makes dividends on the U2?
As i said you:
"clever" people know what is to do...and so long it is worth...they will earn by winspiral...
it is less worth?
They will go otherwhere...And it is normal to do so...because the game is made to do so...

This is what "big respected" here have not understood...
winspiral's U2 system is market regulated and only used if the users think it is profitable.

You can never say if tomorrow it is profitable or not because even winspiral does not know it...

You have claimed somewhere under 400 satoshi?
ok...but if you have not claimed by winspiral...you gone away from few satoshi...and if you repeat it daily...it counts...

Think about:over 20000 satoshi are to share daily by winspiral...it's not much...but if you are not numerous...it is interesting...






3064  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin Cloud Mining with HashFlare on: November 28, 2016, 05:55:12 PM
Once more, I do not invest into scams. I do not think they re scam cause they mine something 100%. But this is my money.
You do your own calculations.

I run an u2cloudmining site without miner and it works perfectly...
Why spend money for mining if the profit is better without miners?
mining = more fees than profit
no mining = No fees and only profit.


You do your own calculations.


Why would i invest my amounts into scams(consider those amounts as wasted). I would rather paying some fees at least i am seeing what am i currently having.

no mining= No fees yes but only profit? You must be the hilarious person i had ever meet. Now I tell you to do your own calculation .

I have no calculation to do...
I am the rewarder...The calculation is to do by my members who share the profit for free.
3065  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin Cloud Mining with HashFlare on: November 28, 2016, 04:03:01 PM
Once more, I do not invest into scams. I do not think they re scam cause they mine something 100%. But this is my money.
You do your own calculations.

I run an u2cloudmining site without miner and it works perfectly...
Why spend money for mining if the profit is better without miners?
mining = more fees than profit
no mining = No fees and only profit.


You do your own calculations.
3066  Economy / Auctions / Re: Funny Auction [Add space top place on all pages of the site with 50% cashback] on: November 28, 2016, 02:43:18 PM
2 days or so and this offer is closed...
3067  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: November 28, 2016, 01:01:55 PM
The U2 system offers free Ubonds...
But only first 100 ubonds (or so) will be offered...
Then members have to trade them if they want...

Do not miss this opportunity to get more free satoshi...

3068  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: November 28, 2016, 11:56:17 AM
A very sure way is my U2 system because it is free (ok except you cost of time and electricity)
Sure because you start with "zero" and then you can only grow the "zero"...
Sure because it is impossible to get less then "zero".

This is not an invitation to share the at least 20000 satoshi I offer daily...but just an information...
3069  Economy / Reputation / Re: i got negative trust without any reason :( on: November 28, 2016, 08:20:54 AM
Do not worry...one can live with negative red trust.
My members see from themselves that I'm honnest and was always honest.
My members see that my systems were always and are real economical systems.

Without any reason certainly  does not exist...
For me the reason was that people trust negatively if they do not understand a system even if the system is honest.
It is hard for some people to understand that a webmaster can offer satoshi to investors.

Say I offer satoshi for free...you are red trusted because people have electricity cost and electricity is not free.
Say I offer satoshi if you pay 0.001BTC...you are red truted because people say you are a ponzi runner.

You can do something and it's opposite...for both you are redtrusted...

Advice:
Never say this forum is for free...because you have electricity cost...(lol)

Never say by winspiral's u2 system you earn for free because you spend electricity and time...you will be red trusted for promoting lies...best is for you to take the free satoshi and say nothing like 300 people or so do.

3070  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: November 27, 2016, 05:40:39 PM
You can never know in advance.
Even if you are 500% sure that the site will collapse soon or late...you can not know if you are the one who will be scammed.

You will parhaps be the "paid" to attract other people.

It is why many sure scam sites have succes because sometimes they do not scam at the start...

I have more experience that all my red trusters...(lol)
So far I have always found people who have trust me and have send me cash...
It is so easy to scam people and red trust is useless because when red trusters come...it is already to late.
And red trusters are so often wrong that they have lost credibility.

Look me red trusters...they are even not able to admit that they were wrong...





3071  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: November 27, 2016, 03:11:54 PM
The best way is trade. If the difference to make money, be sure to buy at the price of bitcoin, and bitcoin only safety for several years to bring huge profits, as all are aware of how the exchange rate is expected in the future.
There is not any safe way to grow bitcoin right now. Each investment involve risk which may cause to you many disadvantages. I think the least bad method is to mine Bit[Suspicious link removed]ut and buy some hardware or antminer and start working with number and statements.
Probably the best way to get a decent profit from their bitcoin, it's an investment. And here I fully agree that the risk can be anywhere in other ways, but the danger is less investment. You can stay at their coins or get more. But do not get lost.
too, it is not so and just cope with investments. A lot of companies on the Internet offering which attracted funds including bitcoin, but this is not always a good solution. There are also a scam.

I see you do not know my U2 system.
It's paying now for over 1 year and all is now absolutly for free.
You get free shares and you can sell them for real satoshi.
You can show yourself you trade skills...
And the specificity of this programme is that you can not lose.

It is tempting, and all because it is too warm words that you can not lose. I think the risk is always there. Just you can protect yourself if you know where there are pitfalls.

Of course you can not lose because the sytem is risk free.
You can not lose you key if you do not have a key.
Here it is the same:
You can not lose what you do not have.
You are more or less owner of the system so you can only earn more or less.

You have of course few possibilities earning nothing (but never lose)
People who do not participe earn nothing ...logic.
If people participe not enough it is possible that they do not reach the minimum payout...logic...

You have enough information to see that nowadays 20000 satoshi aredaily  shared by the members.

Where are warm words?



3072  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Pourquoi la situation économique va droit dans le mur avant 2017 on: November 27, 2016, 07:51:42 AM
Joli...
Je ne sais pas si tu dis ça par ironie ou pas mais il faut quand même que je rajoute un disclaimer en me relisant après coup : je n'ai pas de problèmes avec les croyants qui admettent qu'ils croient, mais dans le cas présent, Meuh, lui, prétend qu'il pense.

S'il pense...il pense donc il est (lol)
3073  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: November 26, 2016, 12:03:14 PM
we all know that its difficult to spot a scammer because they are very cunning.But we can take some steps to find scammers.

1.Most of the scammer will commit you to high returns for little invest.
2. They will ask for my personal information.My home address,phone number,fb account etc.
3.They will pressure me to take decision quickly or respond them fast.
4.legitimate organization wont make grammatical mistakes or rarely they do.But scammer will make this every time.
5.when i will asked some serious question they will stop me or tell me to be quite.

I think these are the reason how can i spot a scammer.  
Yes this is very true sign of scammers. Number 1 is the most obviuos act of an scammer. Offering you a very good and very high profits in your investment and They will make it scam. HYIP is one of them

Number once means nothing...
I promise nothing and although I'm taken for a scamer...

Your trust feedback will answer you for being taken as a scammer. And look at your signature about your system.
Code:
absolutly free investment system now,Impossible to lose
Where in Earth you could find an investment that doesn't need a capital? This is surely an act of scammer either and the next part, you are saying that in your investment it is impossible to lose? Oh, Come on.

Try to lose...you will soon see that it is impossible.
People here say wrong things...and then disapear.

The capital was needed (need?) at the start...
Now it is the site itself who makes profit and a big part of this profit is shared by the members who are a kind of owners of the site.
My system is economically solid and market regulated.
During the time I explain you about the U2 system,my members have certainly earned something...even if they sleep.

Visitors of my U2 site if they take a little time to understand see that it is possible to earn something...
Two solutions:
1)...they go away and let the earning to other people...
2)...they claim,trade,re-invest...(re-investment is only possible with earning)

Believe me...with minimum  20000 satoshi daily shared,it is impossible that the site has no users...
Imagine you are alone...you will after a time get all profit of the U2 site.
But do not dream...you will never be alone and none will be alone because everything market regulated can not be alone...
The market is always the strongst.

When the site offer for a claim in average 500 satoshi or so:
It could happen that people are not interested...but as said,if noboddy is interested,the claim reward increases...increases...INCREASES so much...perhaps...2000 or 5000 or 100000 and then...believe me people will claim.

My system is now paying for over 1 year...
and one can charge winspiral with 100 red trusts...the market will be the trongst...people will keep up using the U2 and be paid.




3074  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: November 26, 2016, 11:03:21 AM
I'm working on a Ubond trading.
As usual it will be only possible with satoshi you have earned for free.
As usual if you are not interested in trade,you just sell your Ubonds for shares.

People interested in trading can risk daily few satoshi and try to earn more.
But know that you can as well lose a part of your investment.

So...do not worry if you see Ubonds on your account.

So far at least 2 claimers has got at least 1 ubond for free.

3075  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Pourquoi la situation économique va droit dans le mur avant 2017 on: November 26, 2016, 07:46:14 AM
Seulement, comme tu peux le remarquer tu t'adresses à un mur, en-muré derrière une bulle distordant leur réalité. J'en ai également de la peine... Impossible de faire changer ces personnes cupides à tel point qu'ils n'attendent que le monde se reverse (s'effondre sous des fléaux) pour s’approprier enfin le haut d'une pyramide socio-(nouvelle)economique.
Ça en a l'air. J'ai eu un sursaut d'espoir avant-hier quand j'ai écrit mon gros post mais en fait je crois que je vais devoir me faire à l'idée que c'est un mythomane : il se construit un monde sur mesure, où tout se passe comme il l'espère.
C'est dommage parce que du coup ça lui arrive de poster des trucs intéressants quand même, au milieu de tout le reste. Et quand ça parle de connaissances purement techniques en matière d'utilisation de Bitcoin (problème de portefeuille, etc), il se place un peu là en matière de maîtrise du sujet, aussi, en plus de ne pas être avare de dispenser ses connaissances. De plus je maintiens le fait que je le trouve sympa : je l'ai toujours connu calme et posé. Y a pas vraiment moyen de se disputer avec lui. Enfin c'est grandement dû au filtre qu'il a devant les yeux et qui dégage d'un coup tout ce qui ne lui fait pas plaisir. Mon gros post en question aurait dû ne pas lui faire plaisir, mais au lieu de le prendre en compte il a préféré l'ignorer soigneusement (et assumer le fait qu'il l'ignorait en parlant du dilemme du prof ou en faisant "une pirouette digne d'un vrai politicien", je crois que c'est ça le pire). Et depuis il a posté un autre article de zerohedge dans un autre topic mais je ne maîtrise pas assez le sujet de l'Inde que pour pouvoir en discuter.
 Sad

Il se comporte vraiment comme un croyant en fait. Il voudrait bien avoir une réponse aux questions qu'il se pose mais comme il n'en trouve pas de réelle et définitive qui satisfasse aux exigences scientifiques il se persuade juste de celle qui l'arrange le mieux. Ça découle d'un besoin de savoir qui découle lui-même d'une sorte de peur de l'ignorance. Mon expérience me dit qu'il n'y a effectivement rien à faire pour l'amener à utiliser une méthode raisonnable dans ce cas. Au bout d'un moment, quand la raison a cessé de pouvoir donner des réponses à ses questions, il l'a tout simplement mise de côté et l'a remplacée par la croyance.




Joli...


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Seulement, comme tu peux le remarquer tu t'adresses à un mur
Un mur?
Celui où la situation économique va  droit dedans avant 2017?
Encore quelques jours de patience et nous saurons si c'est le cas...

3076  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: New faucetsystem site!! ( http://btc2.ml ) on: November 26, 2016, 07:34:11 AM
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Owner of this faucet set a send limit, which was exceeded. Try again in 30 minutes.

This is what I do not like about faucets:
claimers are informed only after.

Good luck...if I am often informed "after"...i will forget this faucet.



3077  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: November 25, 2016, 04:47:33 PM
we all know that its difficult to spot a scammer because they are very cunning.But we can take some steps to find scammers.

1.Most of the scammer will commit you to high returns for little invest.
2. They will ask for my personal information.My home address,phone number,fb account etc.
3.They will pressure me to take decision quickly or respond them fast.
4.legitimate organization wont make grammatical mistakes or rarely they do.But scammer will make this every time.
5.when i will asked some serious question they will stop me or tell me to be quite.

I think these are the reason how can i spot a scammer.   
Yes this is very true sign of scammers. Number 1 is the most obviuos act of an scammer. Offering you a very good and very high profits in your investment and They will make it scam. HYIP is one of them

Number once means nothing...
I promise nothing and although I'm taken for a scamer...
3078  Other / Off-topic / Re: New forum for bitcoiners on: November 25, 2016, 03:56:48 PM
We don't need a new forum. All Bitcoin users come here, any other forum failed in history.

I totally agree. Here the most information. No other forum is not so popular than this. There is all the necessary information

it seems you are afraid about concurencies...
Every one does not accept red trust if they are honest...
3079  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: New faucet site!! ( http://btc2.ml ) on: November 25, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Thanks
it's the first time i have used faucetsystem.
3080  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: November 25, 2016, 03:34:13 PM
early scam site
1 delay payment
2 much reason is delay payment
3 site is maintanance, and high frequence

Yes,that is already alarming when they are always delayed or in maintenace until the site disappears or can not be accessed anmore. Others are offering  promises that too much to believe or outrageous interest. Beware of those HYIP.

it is why I try to hold payout rules high within the delay I have promised and for the people in a hurry...they can even ask for an earlier payout.
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